Revelation Chapter 13 Discussion Page 18

The antichrist is here in plain site, the world is blind to him, because close to half of the world 's population follow after him blindly, he is the one who changed the true Sabbath of GOD, the roman Catholic church, Satan disguised as an angel of light, you need to go back and read the original ten Commandments the 4th is the seal of GOD it 's reinstituting the 7th day of the Creation week Sabbath, a DAY that has never changed, it 's not a Jewish day or a Adventist day it 's GOD 's Sabbath, I 'm not trying to judge just stating facts, but if you value your eternity I would take the time to look into this matter. AMEN!

To word ch 13 remark.Word, you are again judging people .Who are you to say to anybody "this is not for you but for the elected one. Ask the Holy Ghost to lead you and pray. I will pray for you as well so God will give you His wisdom and a new approach to His Word with the help of the Holy Ghost.with much love a sister in Christ

Sorry Word, but I can 't understand what you are saying. Where did you get all these theories?

Hello Word Jesus is talking about the rapture in, Matthew 24 40 Then shall two be in the field the one shall be taken, and the other left . John 5 28 and 29 is twofold, if I can say it like this is talking about the saints who sleeps or dead are waiting to be resurrected. You have to understand that there are no saints waiting during the tribulation period in the graves. The rapture has already taken place. During the tribulation when people are given a choice to take the mark or get their heads chopped off, those who get their heads chopped, some scholars believe that these people automatically go straight to the throne. They do not go through the grave, Revelation 6 9. The other thought is that Jesus was talking about those saints that were to come forth after his death and was seen walking around in the city of Jerusalem, Matthew 27 51 thru 53. In the end, the rapture is very real and will happen whether you or anyone believes it.

1Thess1 vs 10 was not written to you but to the elect who stand against antichrist and they waited for the true Christ and escaped the wrath to come meaning they escaped the hour of temptation because they couldn 't be tempted by antichrist because they knew he was a fake and not the true Christ. When the Lion of God comes our Lord at that 7th trump and all are changed in a twinkle of an eye for them that waited for the true Christ at that trump will be in spirit bodies as fire with hail stones hit the earth do you really want to get caught gathers around Satan with your chicken wings on clucking like chickens in the flesh.

To Words Revelation chapter 13 remark .Where is it written that the false prophet says to the people " come with me an I will fly you away "

Evangelist I meant Daniel 11 vs 21 to 34 but anyway anti Christ comes with Two horns of power in the sight of men and this power can bring lightning from the sky and perform many supernatural tricks. I say tricks even though they are miracle 's but it isn 't anti Christ power because Satan 's power was only given to him for a short time by God for half of a 5 month period to complete God 's plan but they are done in the sight of men all of these supernatural events of power and man who can 't do them and who have listened to false teachings of Satan coming chopping their heads off if they don 't take the mark of the beast and they see this false Jesus saying he is Christ don 't know it is Satan coming in peace and power they the people think wow!, Christ has returned so it will be a brilliant display of power in a fakes hands for a short time and men will bow down to him even though he is a false prophet who will say come with me I will fly you away. You see the problems a person can cause by teaching God 's children lies of another fly away salvation instead of the truth of God 's plan of salvation.

Evangelist As you see in vs 11 And I beheld another beast .. another one, the lawless one... coming up out.. from... of the earth and he had two horns like a lamb,...appearance, looked like the Lamb of God, Jesus... and he spake as a dragon. .. because it was the dragon!.. Note. Claiming to be Jesus but it 's the devil to enslave with deception as the first seal opened in Revelation 6 vs 1 showing his coming on a white horse as if he were Christ with a crown and bow as if he were Christ. Even though they are imitations they will appear so real that people will think he is Christ and even his name anti Christ translated means instead of Christ and as Revelation 12 tells us he is kicked out of heaven to deceive the whole world and a deceiver don 't come as a war lord chopping off heads but one who acts as if he is kind and loving and in Peace as Daniel told us in Chapter 21 vs 11 to 34 that the vile one comes as but Satan is an evil tricky deceiver trying to win souls to hell and using them as servants because he always wanted to be a god but is an abomination and a liar.

Hello Word The saints of God shall not go through the wrath of God that is to come, 1 Thessalonians 1 10. When you get through with your interpretation the scriptures will speak and stand on their own. The rapture is going to take place. The tribulation period is going to take place There is nothing anyone can do to stop what is written, whether people, yourself included, want to believe it or not. My suggestion to you is to get saved according to Acts 2 38. You have a nice day.

Evangelist Chatauna Robinson and about what you said about this verse in John 5 misleading people saying Jesus said this or that fly away but the truth is in John 5 vs 29 This is speaking of the final Judgment or the great white throne judgment. Rewards for good and the reward that the evil will get. This verse is final Judgment. Final judgment is in the Psalms 37 vs 20 they are like fat that hits the fire and go up in smoke. Blotted out and gone forever. As written in Ez. 28 vs 18 and 19 Satans final judgment burn from within to out. Smoked to nothingness and that 's final hell is being blotted out of existence. People think that hell is burning forever in a lake of fire but do you really think our Father who is a God of love would torment souls forever. You need to search and study the scriptures more.

Evangelist Chatauna Robinson John 5 vs 28 is speaking of them in the graves translated from tomb of which is a place of prison between heaven and hell which are waiting to be Judged. All unbelievers and them that committed sin without repenting are held there until the great white throne judgment. Until Judgment none are in pain they are just waiting on the other side of the void and they can see the good side but can 't cross over. Christ when rose went there and brought many out of prison that had to live by the law and failed.

Hello Word You say this to me all the time in one form or another, but your interpretation of a lot of scriptures is very incorrect, especially with Ezekiel 13. Have I stated that I have the power to make people fly? I believe I have always stated and maintained that it is the power of the Holy Ghost through Jesus Christ that will make the flight out of here possible. It is the power of the Holy Ghost, that resurrection power, that will help people get out of here. It is that same Holy Ghost power that changes a person from the inside out. It is that same power that will change a person in the moment in the twinkling of an eye, 1 Corinthians 15 52. Regardless to how you may feel the rapture, the catching away, is very real. It is going to happen. Just like in Noah days when he preached it is going to rain no one believed him either.

Evangelist God doesn 't write like your trying to make us believe. He takes a subject like His return and put it in 3 Gospels and Paul taught it in 2 Thessalonians 2 always giving us a second witness with just about as many chapters on the same subject making sure we understand it but you are trying to tell us with a few pulled verses out of scriptures spread a part in the New Testament that have a completely different subject matter spoken of and most of the time what you say it is isn 't that at all. Just you quoting verses but have no meaning to the subject you say? I found something in Ezekiel 13 where God writes a whole chapter on how much He hates the teachers that teach His children to fly to save their souls.

Evangelist Chatauna Robinson I just went back to read Matthew 24 to see the time sequence because in Luke 17 it leaves you hanging and I wanted to compare and to capture the subject matter and if you go to where the subject starts in verse 23 of Luke 17 where it says don 't go vs. 23 And they shall say to you, See here or, see there go not after them, nor follow them. Note.Why because they follow anti christ. and read it to Luke 17 vs 36 and capture the truth with the subject and the other gospels of Mark 13, Matt. 24 and Luke 21 but capture the truth through to 36 and follow it down to the first one who leaves the field, or the bed and or the mill and you see it was anti Christ they were taken by more like they were overwhelmed because of his power but we are NOT TO GO BUT to STAY as watchmen on the housetops and wait for the true Christ in our homes working and waiting for Him.

Hello Word We can talk about this issue until Jesus Christ returns. However, the truth will remain the truth whether you or anyone believes. The rapture is very real. The dead in Christ, these are people who have taken on the name of Jesus by following Acts 2 38 , have not risen yet. Even Jesus Christ talks about the rapture in John 5 28 and 29. He also talks about the conditions and how people will be taken that are alive and remain Luke 17 26 thru 36. If it were not so then God would not have let the Apostles write about it and it would not be in the word of God.

Evangelist as much as you speak on page after page of salvation it 's strange to me that you don 't seek for the truth in the Manuscript instead of listening to men and telling their same old stories of lies. One thing I have never read a mans commentary worth a hill of beans but you always draw from them as if they are truth. Scripture says that when one teaches a person that they can fly to save there soul and that person is deceived by it all the sins of that fallen person are laid on the head of the teacher. Just letting you know your playing with fire.

Angela if you go to 1 Thessalonians 4 vs13 the subject is where are the dead and as you read to vs 18 you will see that the dead have rose and are with Christ and will return with Christ because they are with Him and He is coming to earth at that 7th trump and we will meet them with Him on earth. The word AIR translates breath the type we take in our lungs not flying off because Christ comes only one time at the 7th trump and the word clouds is street Greek for crowd as Paul used in Hebrews 12. If you go to Ezekiel 13 you will see how God hates them that teach the fly away to save their souls. Believe me they will get their reward for telling you the lie to fly and Father has their number but don 't listen to them and don 't let them drag you into the lake a fire with them. They teach for the false one who twist the scriptures as they do.

Hello Angela The rapture is very real. If you read over in 1 Thessalonians 4 13 thru 18. The following scripture lets us know that the true believer will not go through the tribulation period. 1 Thessalonians 1 10 "And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

To Angela chapter 13 remark. Angela,rapture will happen because Jesus, as He promised, will come like a thief in the night to collect those who believed in Him. He said He will go and prepare mansions for His true believers. The Church, I mean the true believers in Him , and Holy Spirit cannot be here with Antichrist! So believe and pray and be ready for Rapture. Our Lord Jesus is coming soon, very soon.

What a wonderful God we serve...

Angela get rapture out of your mind God hates that lie and tells us in Ezekiel 13 and you won 't find it in Mark 13, Luke 21 or Matt. 24 where Christ tells us of the 7 events or seals that will take place. Not in 2 Thessalonians 2 where Paul gives us the exact way we will gather back to Christ does any time say we will fly to save our own souls, in fact Paul says forget that first letter speaking of where are the dead because people couldn 't keep track of the subject in verse 13 where it speaking of dead people in that chapter 4 and not flying up at the 7th trump but coming to earth when we that are all in the flesh change. ALL change, ALL will go through the test of either waiting for the true Christ or go with as a whore with a fake one antichrist because he says he is Christ and all the churches are following him and the whole world says he is and bow down to him but not the election and not the 2 witnesses. So when Satan shows up and says he will fly you out of here, what say you?

It 's no one born of flesh. When antichrist gets here he can bring lightning from the sky and will be doing supernatural tricks to show you he is a supernatural person. And he will look just like Jesus but he is the son of perdition which is to say death and they will turn over their loved ones to death thinking he is Jesus. Then Christ comes and then they who loved the false Christ ran in shame wishing mountains would fall on them. They sat in churches and believed mans lies.

WHO IS GOING INTO CAPTIVITY?

The man of sin who exalt himself above all who called God .he is sitting in God 's temple assuming to be God . He is the son of perdition , since he sits in the holy temple he can 't be obama obama is sitting on government seat not spiritual seat the ant Christ must be someone who exalt himself to be Christ on earth he lies with is deadly deception to be messiah but he had the doctrine which is adulterous he has make all nation drink all his false doctrine THIS IS NON THAN THE SO CALLED THE PAPACY WHICH HAS TAKEN PLACE OF JESUS ON EARTH THE NUMBER SIX SIX SIX IS THE TITLE OF POPE VICAR FELLI DAI WHICH ADD UP TO NUMBER SIX SIX SIX the Sunday Sabbath is the mark of the beast any one who will worship on Sunday as a Lord 's day , has denied God 's sign with man accepted the mark of authority of the pope those who will not accept Sunday worship obey God 's Sabbath will be taken as occultismic outcast who will be likened to be traitors they will be tortured killed the head or hand means either through thinking or doing not something put on head or hand may God preserve the faithful who obey the law have faith of Jesus amen

When it says those that dwell in Heaven, does that mean the beleivers who have already been raptured?

Has anyone stopped to think that "beast " as it rises out of the sea. These are empires. Not individuals. I 'm thinking you will see a revived ottoman turk empire.. It died and is looking like it will be ready to pick up the pieces of the middle east as it revives. Or call it a revived eastern roman empire.. 5 toes? Try turkey. Syria. Babylon. Persia. Egypt. The EU has already come together for the western half.

there is nothing pass revelation 3,have happen yet.

We need to pray for the lost. We need to be the salt and light to the world Jesus wants us to be. I believe the hour is late, and their are many who still need to hear the truth, repent, and become true followers of Jesus Christ.

ISIS of today, gathers as U.S. President Obama is being called upon to resolve all their issues in the middle east. Well as I see things ALL of Revelations is coming to fruition. Obama is The Leader of The New World Order it 's here goatgrinder of Islam. Amen

IT 'S IN YOUR MIND, YOUR BRAINS. NOT A CHIP, NOT A MARK OF INK BUT NOT KNOWING THE TRUTH OF WHO THE FIRST JESUS IS AND HE AIN 'T CHRIST HE 'S ANTI CHRIST OR INSTEAD OF CHRIST, A FALSE MESSIAH IS COMING ON A WHITE HORSE JUST LILKE JESUS BUT WITH A FAKE CROWN AND IMMATATION BOW AND THE WHOLE WORLD IS GOING TO SEE HIS POWER AND CHASE AFTER HIM BUT THE ELECT KNOW ITS NOT THE TRUE CHRIST AND THEY CAN 'T BE TEMPTED BY THE FAKE SO THEY ESCAPE THE HOUR OF TEMPTATION BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE IN THEIR FOREHEADS. IT 'S ALL SPIRITUAL DEATH, SATAN IS NOT GOING TO KILL ANY OF HIS FOLLOWER 'S AND HE CAN 'T HARM THE ELECT EXCEPT, NOT A HAIR ON THERE HEADS BECAUSE GOD IS IN CHARGE AND TOLD HIM. SO SATAN AND HIS BUNCH OF SOFT SPOKEN LOCUST PREACHER 'S ARE GOING TO TRY TO TARE YOUR SOUL AWAY FROM YOU WITH LIES AND FLATTERIES. MAKE A STAND FOR GOD AND BE PREPARED WITH FOOD AND BILLS PAID UP AND DON 'T GET CAUGHT UP IN SATAN 'S LIES WAIT FOR THE TRUE CHRIST WHO LOVES YOU. IF THEY DRAG YOU DOWN TO THE CHURCHES OF SATAN 'S BLANK YOUR MIND AND LET THE HOLY SPIRIT SPEAK THROUGH YOU. DON 'T FIGHT THEM, GO AS A DOVE AND BLANK YOUR MIND, GOD WILL BE WITH YOU.