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  • S Spencer

    part 6 of 6.

    God's New Provision for Sanctification

    Now this is where God moves on the scene, and we have God's new provision for sanctification.

    There is, therefore, now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus....( Romans 8:1)

    That is,chapter 7of Romans describes Paul's failure when he was a believer. I think this took place when he was first converted after the Damascus Road experience. He found failure in the Christian life. But even then there was no condemnation because he was in Christ. It did not disturb or wreck his salvation at all, but he was not happy. There was no joy, no power in his life.

    For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son, in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.( Romans 8:2-4)

    Believers have a new nature, but it has no power. You cannot live for God in your own strength. It is only as you and I come and yield to Him, it is only as you and I will obey Him, that we can be well pleasing to Him. It is only by the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit that you and I can live for God. Now Paul makes that extremely clear:

    For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.( Romans 8:5,6)

    If you are to have life and peace - that is, a Christian life filled with the fruits of the Holy Spirit - it must be by the power of the Holy Spirit. You can never achieve them on your own.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Kinsman redeemer. Part 2.

    We see in several verses Jews and Gentiles alike is redeemed by the blood of Christ, We are reconciled in one body. "Baptism"

    Ephesians 2:11-22.


    Romans 5:8-11.

    2 Corinthians 5:17-19. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

    And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

    To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, NOT INPUTTING THEIR TRESPASSES UNTO THEM; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.


    Romans 3:21-22.

    2 Corinthians 5:21.

    The way God provides this righteousness is not by man's working for it, not by man's paying for it, not by man's getting it on the installment plan with the idea that he will pay later, but that God gives it to him. Man can receive it only by faith.

    God bless.
  • Gigi again - in Reply
    We all should remember that "pride goeth before a fall. Donakor , Adam pointed out a Scripture that speaks the truth that the devil does exist.

    You stated that you came on this site to teach, not to be taught. That speaks volumes new about you.

    I know from what you have stated that you teach falsely and therefore will not take in what you teach. Sorry, but by their fruits we will know them.and your fruit is not good.
  • Gigi - in Reply
    T. Levis

    Good morning

    Yes, I read that Jacob had been in Haran 20 years and had 11 children there. Dinah was the second youngest and Joseph was the youngest accordance by to the geneology given n Genesis 29. Benjamin was born last after they left Shechem and we're almost to Bethlehem.

    So many in calculating ages at least be time of leaving Haran, Rueben the oldest was at the most between 19 and 20 when they left Haran.

    Allowing 18 months to 2 years between births and four wives, it seems that Dinah was about 3 when they left Haran. So, Genesis says that Jacob lived for a short time In Succoth before moving to Shechem, and perhaps living there for a short while until they left for Bethlehem, in is very likely that Dinah was just about the age of puberty and at an age to be married when she was raped.

    As to Joseph being 17 when he was still led into slavery, it was after Benjamin was born, so apparently the family moved between pasturelands to graze their flocks as Abraham and Isaac had done. So it doesn't necessarily mean that they lived in Shechem with until Joseph was 17, but most likely the family kept their land holdings in Succoth and Shechem and perhaps in other communities like Hebron, be able to graze their flocks in these areas as the grass on these fields grew and we're ready for grazing.
  • Gigi - in Reply
    Hi John

    For one, I believe that Mormomism teach s that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers.

    And they teach that God progresses, therefore He changes. They teach that Jesus became a god after His ascension and that we will progress to become gods, too.

    These views are at variance to Biblical Christian teachings held by the Church over the centuries.
  • Evelyn Tyson Woodson on 2 Corinthians 10:4
    Religious people repeate Letters absent of the fruit of the Spirit" resulting in dead works.The letter killeth but the Spirit Revives. Speaking flattering ego ceceptive words only serves to bolster the ego of wolves in sheep's clothing. Each true servent of God ,are targeted firstly be crafty servents of Satan who seduce people with smooth tounges and fine garments Cars Houses in Gated Communities. TV Broadcast , and lower level preachers who feed off the poor they hold captive. Perverting the Ture Gospel of Christ. leading hungry sould further away from the love of God they already have. I take theposition of I'd rather be a usher at God house then dine at the head Table of the Opresser of Gods People. Over years and years of listening to blind leaders and moving on I learned to seek the Truth directly from God ,and to ask God to teach me the truth in a understnding that is aplliable in transforming and renweing the old flesh materialisitc attachments, lettig go of old things so fresh new awareness can be realized. We should be equiped with he Words of God that is powerful to stamp out satanatic networks that stalk our children at School and attacking family memebrs or any who have aligned with Eveil doers ,Calling the police and going to Court is not guranteed, But deliberate precise spirit directed uttterence of God Words is 100% guranteed against any and all Weapons aimed at us , Reading and not beleving is muggling the OX. Leaning to the Flesh blocks us off from Divine activation. It is my prayer that Gods Children will go directly to hime as Jesus told us to ,Asking anything in his name and the father is guranteed to do it for us. Detach from all doubters near who the enemy uses to dump cold water on your fire for God. Psalms 38-20.68-68-21-109-3. Jeremiah1-19- Psalms 27-3- Isiah29-5. are Weapons of God more powerful than any weapons developed my the minds of Warmongers. who abuse the weak .
  • Kent Dupree Bass - in Reply
    Hi Tccc. Job 27:18 is talking about a wicked Man's portion from Yah.
  • Kent Dupree Bass - in Reply on Psalms 145
    Yes CLAUDETTE V MCFARQUHAR, ask you have encouraged me so will I encourage thee. Yah is our great provider. He spares no good thing when he showers his blessings upon us. He is a way maker, making a way when there is no way. He is our breath of life, our movement, and he upholds us all. Thank you CLAUDETTE V MCFARQUHAR for your encouragement and I pray that Yah keeps you in his fold.
  • Bessie Miller
    is syspus in the bible
  • Jocelynne Bell on Genesis 31
    If people say our souls are in our bodies, and that's the part of us going to Heaven, how are we suppose to believe that because we actually don't know if our souls are actually there?
  • Free - in Reply
    Hi all Happy Saved People, in peace. So true: A word from the Bible can free a human being from all the shackles and bonds T. Levis. I have never experienced the Word of God as something that binds, I share the word happily, It is the Only True word and Jesus Is there. Today it was John Ch. 3.

    Today meeting we sang a verse: Purified in the Blood of Jesus, the Holy Blood. The only sacrificial blood that can cleanse us from all sin. And we can live in Freedom, cleansed and pure in His Blood that flowed at Calvary, i said if we hunger for righteousness and confess our sins! Good news? YES!

    Gen.3 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes,

    it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired t.

    Genesis 6:6 And it repented unto the LORD that he had made man upon the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

    First the Lord creates man and woman and afterwards He repented.

    Tree of Life: Is a symbol of Eternal Life. How should we humans get it? We already have eaten from the Tree of Knowledge? Because with that, we would understand everything eventually. In the last days, and we do the knowledge will be great among many. But human knowledge is foolishness to God.

    That is why He repented.

    1 Chorintians 3: 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

    But if you Donkor Makini are in the spiritual world, we will be able to see parallels to this in the earthlyto. Please share Holy Bible words.

    You can prophesy but never be afraid to share it. All we have is the work of the Lord, not our own. For us, it is impossible to do something ourselves really, because it becomes very earthly. We want to live in the Spirit, even though we are in the flesh. Dear friends we reach for what lies ahead. We have got something that is so much bigger than what is on earth. Love you in Christ.

    God bless you in the Holy Name above all other Names Jesus Christ our Lord.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on John 6
    John 6:39-40, Matthew 25:31-46, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, Revelations 1:7, hopefully these are helpful.
  • Alex N
    There was no other nation like ISRAEL....They were sola scriptura....The written word only...But Israel stoned most all the Prophets and rejected the Christ...They were married to the law ....But they didn't understand that It was a clean Heart that God wanted.....Not a big temple....Jesus asked one day which of the Prophets have not your father stoned...There was no eternal life in written words. The written word ( the law ) was Glorious as the face of Moses Shoned ....But Jesus said your fathers ate manna in the desert but are all dead.....Search the scriptures in them you think you have eternal life but it is them that testify of me which is the living words, his voice as my words are spirit and life...which is the Living words which contains a living being in them a baby Christ is in his seed a living baby that which is born of the spirit is spirit....thats the H.G. the Child of PROMISE.....The living word/seed etc......If The writen word.....if there were salvation in the written word then JESUS SHED HIS BLOOD IN VAIN.....If there were salvation in the written words the cross was just foolishness.....Even in the O.T. without the shedding of Blood there was no remission of sins...a living lamb had to die.....

    The written word answers to the lesser light a nite light but Jesus said if aman walks in the nite he is gona stumble....But the living word answers to a greater light a day star our son/sun...the living word....As it was only Jesus that is the light of the world....But if we walk in the nite ( bible only ) the written word only we will stumble as there is no eternal life in the scriptures only....Remember David says thy word is a light unto my feet and alamp unto my path but David stumbled ( bathsheba ) ...David was still under the law the lesser light.....But God forgave David and Bathsheba.....1 st child died but 2 nd Child was the great King Solomon...but she had to travail again...My lil CHILDREN of whom i travail in birth AGAIN . Gal 4
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Genesis 7
    Genesis 6:5-8, Genesis 6:11-13, Genesis 6:19-21, yet HE preserved life. Genesis 9:9-17, John 3:15-16,

    You don't need to look far to see disregard for life of babies, abortion kills millions & who spares a single child from it? Spade & nueter goes on constantly of animals destroying seed before reproduction. Crimes, injustice, lies, greed etc. If it was so wicked & coucorrupt then? I don't want to imagine. )=

    Psalms 139, Psalms 111, Matthew 9:26, Matthew 14:14, Isaiah 53:5, 1 Peter 2:24, Revelation 7:16-17,
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Ezekiel 32
    Two I can think of : Luke 2:22-38, hopefully this is helpful
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Genesis 15:13-14, Genesis 37, Genesis 39, Genesis 40, Genesis 41, Genesis 47, Genesis 50:22,23, Exodus 1:1-7, Exodus 1:8-12. Note Exodus 1:11,20, Exodus 2:1, please note: John 8:39, biblical times lineage of Levi & Abraham very significant, therefore they would call themselves or other's by the name, many generations. Matthew 1:1, Matthew 22:42, Exodus 6:16-27, Exodus 12:40,41,

    Hope this helps.
  • Chris - in Reply on 2 Esdras 6
    Yes Gavin, 1 & 2 Esdras are not included in the Canon of Holy Scripture because they, alongwith some other writings, did not meet the strict criteria for their inclusion. I believe that the Roman Catholic Bible doesn't include 1 & 2 Esdras either, but they are found in some Greek Orthodox, Episcopal & Lutheran Bibles. And these Esdras books & others are considered apocryphal, which means, "hidden", & were rejected for their dubious authority, authors & events.
  • Tccc - in Reply
    Thank you for your response. I did find it helpful.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Hello John,

    I myself have had many beautiful discussions with Mormons & Jehovah Witnesses. I'm sorry if I mix up the teachings. 1st I want to say many of both, are very kind, I liked just about everyone I encountered. With few exceptions. However, many scriptural discussions seemed to point to teaching that was not in-line with JKV HOLY Bible.

    1st important 1= Galatians 1:3-10, 2 Corinthians 11:3-4, teach don't believe another gospel even if an Angel brings, Mormons have a "new" teaching brought from "An Angel".

    2nd Book of Mormon, addition to Bible? Psalms 89:34, Rev. 22:18, Deuteronomy 12:32,

    3rd Mormons teach that Women can't be prophets untrue : Judges 4:4, Luke 2:36, Joel 2:28.

    4th & maybe most important Mormons don't believe CHRIST Jesus is who HE says HE is. : Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, John 19, John 1,

    Why do you ask?

    Baptist are supposed to believe in Scripture.

    I myself like to stick to the WORD of GOD. Those two are not your only choices. The choices really come down to the WORD itself here's some : John 3:15-16, Matthew 25:31-46, James 1:26-27, John 14:16,

    Hopefully this is helpful.
  • Alex N
    My understanding about this Woman in Rev 12 : 5 giving birth is like Jesus asked who is my Mother ? Them that hear the WORD and keeps it....So this woman has heard the Word that heavenly seed and she has kept it resulting in a birth of a baby Christ in her....making her his spritual Mother....which answers to the field the world were that good seed will be sown....and the world is humanity ....what i am trying to say is the result of the sower and his precious seed is this Woman...The world, if I be lifted up I will draw ALL men unto ME...Remember God so loved the world humanity...And God is no respector of Persons.....And according to Rev. 12 : 10 ....It says NOW IS COME SALVATION and the KiNGDOM of our God and his Christ....her baby is a baby Christ via this new covenant a birthing COVENANT.....NO NEW BIRTH NO KINGDOM.....No Child no kingdom ....

    Ya gota realize he neva refers to himself as any other name then the SON OF MAN....Which means mankind is gona birth a Baby Christ via his death...smite the shepard and the sheep will be scattered, then i will turn my hand to the LITTLE ONES....Thus the woman and her Baby which is the H.G. that Child of PROMISE.....This Woman is fulfilling that great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven...The WOMAN is the world and her Child is gonna be as the stars of heaven.....which is our new innerman the H.G. the Children of Promise....Even in the natural a birth always implies a Child no new birth.....But he will not have a crop failure....Simply b/c his seed which is his Word cannot return unto him void...k mi voy
  • Chris - in Reply
    Hi Gloria. I believe this verse in Hebrews 12:1, describes "weight" as any encumbrance or burden that would come in the way of us finishing the race before us. Jesus is our goal, not only to be with Him but to live for Him in the life He has given us. He is the reason for our salvation & the sure hope we now have for time & eternity. If He means that much to His followers, then His followers must continually examine themselves (any sins & any hindrances), deal with them & live before Him in all good conscience. Otherwise, we might just be ashamed at His Coming - when His Coming is unexpected.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Luke 22:18
    Recently, I was pondering in my mind with the LORD about this account & I knew there would be a discussion about this. For some of us it's easier to fight, much more difficult to submit to circumstances beyond our control; especially when it's unjust. I relate with Peter. I was thinking how Peter had come to the realization the Jesus was the CHRIST, MESSIAH. Jesus had just said : Luke 22:27-30.

    Is there much more knowledge we're supposed to get from this?

    Luke 22:36, Luke 22:38, 2 swords enough? Do you think Jesus was being literal or testing them? Do you feel the act of aggregation saved the Disciples? John 18:8-9, ( I've thought that) but look at: John 18:10. "Then._." it seems to be after Jesus had already set their pardon.

    Luke 22:40,42, Luke 22:43-46, Matthew 26:36-44, Mark 14:33-39, Zechariah 13:7, ( Mark 14:27 , Matthew 26:56 )

    Matthew 16:15-27,

    * Mark 14:27, offended? Matthew 26:33-35,

    Mark 14:42-50, Luke 22:47-51, John 18:10-11, Matthew 26:50-52, Were they offended because Jesus didn't fight, nor let them? after He had said to get swords? Would we be offended if Jesus healed our enemy, we thought we were defending Him from? Then rebuke them/Peter or us openly? John 18:6, Matthew 26:53,

    Luke 22:54, John 18:15, Why did Peter follow? Luke 22:33, Where is our strength? In our flesh & resolve, or GOD & HIS will?

    Mark 14:29-31,

    Luke 22:55-62,

    Matthew 10:17-22, Matthew 10:28-34,

    Acts 12:1-12,

    Romans 8:34-39,

    Ephesians 6:10-18,

    Do you think it was much easier to fight? Matthew 26:41, Luke 22:32,

    Isaiah 55:8-9,
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 110
    Thank you for that extra information, Dr. Lee. I understand that you apply the term, Old Testament', to the other Laws, whereas we commonly refer to the OT as that part of the Bible that contains all the testaments/covenants with their applications, ramifications, & performance by the people. When you refer to Galatians 3:19, I read that it speaks of the Law, ordained (not created) by angels; for it's not in their power to create. And this Law has to include all the Law & not only the other Laws, as in Galatians 3:10-17.

    It seems that it would be easier & more understandable to all if we spoke of the Law given as the Ten Commandments & the Other Laws. To introduce the wording: 'Old Testament' into this seems misleading as the Testament is the Covenant which must also include all the Laws applicable to it. And a Testament must of necessity include the death of the Testator to come into effect; to which the Old (Mosaic) Testament included the shedding of blood as dedication or consecration of that Promise ( Hebrews 9:16-22). Since God cannot die, it clearly looked ahead when He would do, in His Son, Who became the "Mediator of the New Testament" (the better Covenant: Hebrews 8:6). And the Old (Mosaic) Covenant simply being those Laws which God had given, to which both parties were to fully comply with (Deuteronomy chapter 28).

    I realize that this is different to what you've stated, but as I've considered the Scriptures you've given, I can't see the need to differentiate the Old Covenant & the Old Testament in the way you suggest. Have you given it merely to create a difference between the two (sets) of Laws, or is there a specific Scripture you see to denote that the Old Testament applies to the other Laws?
  • Sam C on Exodus 3
    I am a bit confused as to the time span here in Exodus. It says the daughter of Levi, gave birth to Moses. Even if it has been 80 years since this birth, how do we get 400 years of suppression of the people of Israel, and time spent amongst the people. Joseph brought Israel and his brothers, including Levi to Egypt. The math seems off here. How do we get 400 years from Levi to Moses if it is just 2 generations?
  • David on Numbers 36
    It's very simple. Follow and obey God.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    I have a rule myself to let the HOLY Spirit teach us as we read. 1 John 2:27, John 14:26,

    Sometimes we have to work at "unlearning" what someone tells us the Bible says. GOD's WORD is a "living Word" it teaches, corrects, edifies._.. 2 Timothy 3:16, & gives us wisdom. James 1:5,

    Genesis 34, is the account. Notice : Genesis 34:2, they were Hivite

    Exodus 23:28, Exodus 34:11, Exodus 33:2, Genesis 10:15-19, Joshua 9,

    Hopefully this is all helpful.

    Thank you "GiGi" for pointing out her approximate age through scriptural knowledge. Genesis 30:19-31, Genesis 31:38-41,

    Genesis 33:13-17, it says after they met Esau, they built a house & booths for cattle it doesn't say exactly how long they were there. It appears they may have left when Joseph was about 6 yrs. old because Genesis 31:41, But it was before Joseph was 17, Dinah seems to be older sister, they then pitched a tent._ Genesis 33:18-20 The only accounts of age we're given is Joseph was born & Genesis 30:25, Genesis 37:1-2, yet Joseph went to find his brethren in (Shechem) so was this timing, a historical account putting both situations about the same time? Genesis 37:11-14, because later Israel/Jacob tells Joseph about his mother's death & burial, that happened on Journey Genesis 35:1, Genesis 35:15-20, Genesis 35:27-29, Genesis 48:1-7, Genesis 45:25, Genesis 46:6,
  • Adam - in Reply
    Dear Kind Sir,

    God's Word is true.

    Matthew 4:1 says Jesus was tempted by the devil.

    You said: "There is no such thing as "the Devil"."

    What you said is not what the Bible says. Only one of these is true, so which is most credible: God's word, or your words?

    God bless you.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    1st thing that comes to my mind is what we call the atmosphere. How it's curved clear & rounded, like a magnifying lens. How amazing earth looks from outter space, Job 37:18 , seems to describe it beautifully. Thank you for sharing it.

    Glass is made through molten process.

    The 1st part of the verse it appears Elihu, is still talking with Job from Job 36:1-4 & he seems to be asking Job in reference to GOD ALMIGHTY "hast thou with him spread out the sky?'' 1611 KJV,

    Job 2:11-13, the conversations start after these verses.

    Hopefully this is helpful.
  • Dr. Lyle Lee on Ezekiel 31
    Satan and all fallen angels are described here as Pharaoh and his multitude, the other shadow and typology name ascribed unto Satan is the Assyrian, these are the two names ascribed unto Satan here in this chapter. His metaphorical name is, the cedar tree of Lebanon, the other fallen angels metaphorical names are cedar trees, fir trees and chestnut trees. Found then in versus 8-9 we have an understanding that goes back to Genesis 2:8-9, regarding when God created the trees from the garden of God, these were the angels. Now we know and are confident that Ezekiel is using metaphors to speak about Satan and the fallen angels, because he states the trees of the garden of God, envied Lucifer. We can affirm that no physical tree has the ability to envy, but angels had that ability when God created them, we can affirm therefore, man is older than the angels, as he was created before them, placed into the garden of God, and then God created all angels in front of Adam. Genesis 2:8-9 Let us also make note, that these fallen angels were cast into hell, or the pit, which is not a common grave, for a physical grave could never hold a spirit like Satan or any fallen angel.
  • Donkor Makini - in Reply
    My Dear Sweet Friends, humility is excellent, to say the least. However, raising the dead is not a thing that deal in humility.

    I do not expect many, if any at all, to understand this. This is My work, and none other. Therefore, I listen ONLY to Him Who sent Me!

    Thanks for your concern, misplaced as it may be.

    And, absolutely, false teachers abound. Watch for them!

    If one does not possess the truth, and are herein trying to share knowledge and understanding, then that one is, indeed, a false teacher. I find, after careful observation many, many false teachings in this site. And, remember your statements are dealing in "what if".

    My dear Friends, I Am not one to guess or wonder whether or not My teachings are true, I KNOW THEY ARE. My words are power for any who chose to accept. I guess about NOTHING when teaching!

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