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  • Thank you brother Bill for your kind words and I have been equally edified & spiritually stimulated as we have shared in some very profitable discussions. And yes, some things, maybe many things, will be unknown to us this side of Heaven, 'but then shall I know even as also I am known', as all will be made abundantly clear to us. But I feel the Lord is pleased that we, as others who contribute on this Site, are so intensely engaged in spending time in the Word & with His children - sometimes to the neglect of our more mundane duties around the home. I find very few in the Church are prepared (or, capable) of spending time in serious discussion & searching of the Scriptures & so for a medium such as this, I'm very appreciative.

    I have been active in other threads for the past couple of years, mostly responding to questions, but I don't think this Site allows one to call on a name to see what that person has written, maybe for good reason as personalities might become the focus, rather than general fellowship around the Word. Sometimes there is another 'Chris' that comes on, but hopefully one can tell from the material & manner in which comments are presented, that it's not one & the same.

    I continue to look forward to reading your comments to others, & though we may not always see eye to eye, I know we do learn much from the experience & in endeavouring in building each other up in the Word & faith. The Lord bless you richly Bill.
  • Chris - in Reply on Acts 2
    Thank you Tim. But I don't believe that "everything closed at the end of the apostolic age", only the position of apostles (defined by certain criteria) & the presentation of prophecy. Or else, one would have to disregard Revelation 22:18,19, "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

    And let's face it, the Revelation is generally acknowledged as the final set of prophecies for the close of this age & ushering in of the new. I'm unsure which 'prophet', since John's prophetical vision, can add to that Book - some of course have tried, whether prophesying events, dates, etc., & all have proved false. At most, self-acclaimed prophets can make a hit-and-miss forecast, a little like clairvoyants of today. A prophecy from God must be true in every respect, or else it's false. If a brother brings forth a prophecy that is already declared in God's Word, it's not prophetical, but instructional, whether as a warning or an exhortation. We must not convert prophetical utterances found in the Scriptures to mean something else today - this is false & misleading.
  • Thank you brother Earl - that was a very good example that I had failed to recall. But would you not agree that the lying spirit that was controlling the mouth of those prophets was sent from the number that were gathered around God's Throne ( 1 Kings 22:19-23)? It appears so rather than an evil spirit appearing before God & putting up his hand to do the job. Then the question about the use of inducing a lie from one that is holy, or in another way, wilfully misleading the prophets to incorrectly proclaim God's Word. If this can happen, then it could well have been a being from Heaven that appeared to the witch in the form of Samuel, rather than an evil spirit. How do you understand what I've proposed?
  • WHO IS THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH
    John 16. Best follow up chapter after

    John chapter 3.
  • Thank you for that comment Rick. I too noted verse 6, but questions remain. Nevertheless, as you stated, this should the close of this matter between us.
  • Write that link down
    GetBibleAnswers DOT Org

    This is one of my favorite Websites to study from. Lay it down next to your Study Reference Columns in Your Bible. They send you to other examples or prophesies. "The big picture"

    I haven't used it in a while, so maybe I should dive back in, huh Dan?

    You'll love the Topical List. It's all links.

    Also,

    I found it sorta fascinating to google artist paintings and charts, of the levels and compartments of hell. Doesn't mean they are all correct. People donating art come from all kinds of churches. this is not rote. Some have scriptures on them. We have to VERIFY everything from only the Bible. Cannot teach a half/truth to a lamb in arms. If it proves wrong, toss it out.

    Also, people have created Genealogy Charts. That takes a lot of time to lay it beside the KJV and verify. That's how I found the Two Enoch's. One descended from Cain. The other a descendant of SETH. Always follow Jesus's bloodline ancestors.

    The Bible will advance to a place; and maybe back up to add more info; then it goes forward to where you left off. I guess each writer in the Bible had to listen intently to the Spirit of God.

    As we do.

    With Nimrod, now that's a rabbit trail that leads to the Chaldeans and idol worship and all manner of evil. The book of Enoch (from Cains lineage), I believe a lot of it is occult. We don't need to study that. We have Ephesians 6. Keep ourselves unspotted from the world and that which is evil.

    It's better to get in the Gospels, and model after Jesus. I was told by a church mother, it takes only a moment to hit the floor on our knees in prayer. if you feel timid, read what happened to Gideon. :)

    Peace be on us.
  • Pita Lilian Rudu Francis on Revelation 13
    I'm still wondering about the seven years of tribulation if it is true that people has to go through for Seven years remember during the tribulation there will be famine, pestilence and many others, how can anyone survive for that long, the people of God would because they will be fed with bread and water in the wilderness how about the sinners because that day there will be sinners alive who will see Jesus coming in the clouds and they will call for the rocks and mountains to fall on them to hide them from the face of Jesus
  • Human - in Reply
    I believe it's called being human.
  • Pita Lilian Rudu Francis on Revelation 13
    I believe in the writings of Elen white G because what is wrote is now on the ground, she said the first beast will be the Pope of Rome and the second beast is the United states which will make the whole world to worship the first beast. Sea on the news how the Pope is becoming a public figure almost every body is worshiping him and they called him holy father. For the bible says every man has seen that means there is no one holy on earth only God is holy that is the title of God no one can have it. Any calling himself by God's title is a blasphemy to God
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4:17
    Brother David, I said God uses man (kind) to do his work or will, is not the witch mankind.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    You may have remembered Psalm 122:1
  • David on Ephesians 1
    Yes me too. Vs 17 strikes home then 18. So how many people actually know the Spirit Of Truth? Who knows in there heart,

    that your thought life, is your prayer life. How many people know to keep there thoughts on how to declare the good news about Jesus Christ reconciling us back to Our Heavenly Father Grace. We are the children of the Living God. Jesus said let this mind be in you. The same mind that is Christ. Well what was on Jesus's mind ? What did he DECLARE? That he is the way the truth and the life. So the new creature that we are in Christ is focusing are thoughts on the Lord always. This is are spiritual LIFE! We will resist are carnal minds and forsake the Old ways of thought ,and put on Christ! Paul said I think God I die daily. He was referring to his old ways. Bringing every thought into captivity. Let this mind be in YOU! Sing to Jesus sing aloud a new song. My conscience has witness in the Holy Ghost. The love of God is shed abroad my heart by the Holy Ghost that is given unto us! His spirit bears witness with my spirit that I am his child. Ephesians 1 vs 17, 18 Also be as I am because iam as you should be. Meditate day and night pray without stopping. Seek and you shall find, knock and the door will be opened. Do the Deeds that modify the body, that is prayer and fasting. Walk the walk and talk the talk. Teach and preach the Good news every where you GO! Repent for the kingdom of Heaven is at your hand so it must be within your reach, yes reach out to Jesus , know that he is reaching out to you. And God will make his aboade with you, we are the temple of the Lord, so keep his comments, fight against the devil and he will flee,, put on thee whole body of armor,, tell you evil thought to stop. When they will not stop. Make your drive to Jesus and star preaching Roman's 5,6,7 8-12 . We are vessels of mercy preaching the Truth about Jesus Christ giving his life to die on a cross for you to reconcile us into God's Grace FOREVER God's Property. Love ya
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    2 Samuel 12:21-23, Matthew 10:28-31, Psalm 139:1-18, hopefully these are encouraging.
  • Adam - in Reply
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  • Kent Bass - in Reply
    Shirley, the bible doesn't provide an exact number of levels of hell. But it does say that some will suffer more than others.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Romans 11
    Mark 1:1-14, Mark 1:15, Ephesians 6:15, 2 Timothy 2:8, Mark 1:14, Luke 9:6, Galatians 3:8, It's Good news. Redemption by JESUS for reconciliation to GOD ALMIGHTY. John 3:16,
  • David - in Reply on Romans 7
    Hi Tim The commandment are the commandments given by God to Israel that's why in verse 12 the law and commandment are holy and just and still summed up in Mathew to Love God with all your heart and soul and mind and strength. We are now above the law because walking by the spirit is walking above the law by the spirit of God which fulfills the royal law in mathew.
  • T.Levis - in Reply
    John 12:1-6, John 13:1-30, Psalm 41:9 (prophecy), John 17:1-12, hopefully these are also helpful in your study.
  • Tracy Booze - in Reply on Psalms 1
    That is true when God comes and gather all his people (the believers) there will be no one left but the none believers.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Lol, totally!! I was so shocked to see my 94 year old Aunt's Bible from someone that was a copy of this version I was in a lot of prayer & even fear. Some time later after shock wore off I started studying this version. You should read the photocopy pages on the right side column 1611 version by clicking on it!! :) text messages show us how quickly language & spelling can change.

    Thanks for the humor it brought a smile
  • Bro dan - in Reply on Matthew 16
    Judas betrayed Jesus for money, because he was a sinner. He had a choice, he made the wrong choice.

    We are all born sinners, but we don't have to continue to sin, because sin is the wrong choice.

    Romans 5:12

    "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"

    Once we hear the gospel of Jesus Christ we now have the same choice - as Judas, we can choose Jesus, or the world. The world consists of money, power, material things, and many ways to sin.

    Matthew 6:24

    "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."

    I choose God, and hope and pray that you will do the same. Stay close to your bible.

    God Bless.
  • Carleton - in Reply on Matthew 6
    Thank you Brother Earl for sharing your heart and life.
  • T. Levis - in Reply
    Very interesting, I've never really noticed that, as soon as I thought about what you said: scripture came to mind instantly.

    Matthew 25:31-46, I really didn't notice it before so I didn't note if HE always did. I will be more aware of it now.

    I'm wondering if HE did that because unlike others HE was the Son of GOD & man; born of woman. Maybe even to emphasize the power HE had, was, is & is to come. If HE had simply said "when I come back._._." then people might have argued more with HIM about impossibilities, instead of listening to HIM, also they may have thought of HIM only as fleshly being. Just a thought
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Matthew 6
    Thank you Brother Carleton, now I understand what you are asking or saying.

    Where do we as bearers of light start. We can not TRULY start anywhere until we ourselves know TRUTH.

    Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him two fold more the child of hell than yourselves.

    Mark 8:15 And he charged them saying, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and the leaven of Herod.

    Galatians 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

    Our churches send out men that have no spiritual knowledge and make converts like themselves, converts with no spiritual knowledge.

    We as light bearers are to start with those God places in our path. If someone ask you for money give it to them, with no expectations. If they are hunger fed them, with no expectations, if they steal you coat give them also your cloak, with no expectations, if they physically abuse you lift not your hand, if they verbally abuse you lift not your voice.

    People see more than they hear.

    Doing these things on a day to day basis will cause them to ASK concerning your actions, now you can plant a SEED, and that may be all you ever do, but God will CAUSE that seed to be watered by someone else.

    Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the FULNESS OF TIMES (more than the lifespan we live) he might gather together IN ONE all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth, IN HIM.

    My two grandmothers were exact opposites of each other, one PREACHED heaven and hell to me on a daily basis, the other never said a word but live a visible life of Christ, guess who impacted my life the most.
  • Put the World in Perspective - in Reply
    Nothing in this world is worth turning our back on Jesus Nothing!

    Whatever worldly material things we can see and touch mean nothing. Everything came out of this earth. Cars, houses, gold/silver diamonds, steak dinner, swimming pools everything. Whatever came from the earth can and will go back into the earth. All of us will also die and go back to the earth. Everything goes back to the earth! God said he will destroy this earth and create a new one.

    This life and everything in it is futile. We think we have things, but we really don't. It's all a mirage.

    Remember when the devil tried in vain to tempt Jesus:

    Matthew 4:8-10

    8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

    I too choose to worship God, and pray that the Holy Spirit will help me and others to put this world in the right perspective.

    God Bless.

    Bro Dan
  • Gods word is ! - in Reply
    I find it remarkable you are so on fire for God and so full of errors too , how can that be ?
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} Immediate spiritual birth - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Precious friend, Louie, we are "born from the Spirit Above" upon "hearing The Word Of Truth, The Gospel Of GRACE, and "believing It With All of our heart!" Immediately!!

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • Tim Larkin on Romans 7
    In verses 7-13 the commandment is referred to. What commandment is this?
  • Tim - in Reply on Acts 2
    Cessationism is a false doctrine, please read Matthew 13:31-32 Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven

    To Say everything closed at the end of the apostolic age would mean that salvation is also closed

    Your statement has is not in harmony

    Number 23:19 19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

    Malachi 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

    Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.


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