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    WHEN you are born again into TRUTH and LIFE ( John 14:6), by the blood of Christ, YOU are no longer a GENTILE.

    Romans 2:28 For he IS NOT A JEW which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

    Romans 2:29 But HE IS A JEW, which is one inwardly; and that circumcision is of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

    Revelation 3:9 Behold I WILL MAKE THEM of the synagogue of Satan, which SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT, BUT DO LIE; behold I WILL MAKE THEM to come and worship before thy feet, to know that I have loved thee.

    God Bless You.
  • Steve Schoenberger - in Reply
    This is an important question and one that can change depending on what dispensation you are in in scripture.

    Prior to Abram (Abraham) in scripture there was no difference. Everyone was a Gentile or Nation

    When God called Abram in Genesis he made several promises to him that you must understand for the Bible to make sense.

    At the calling of Abram God put up a middle wall of partition between him and the Gentiles or "the nations"

    This middle wall of partition is up throughout the Bible until we get to Ephesians 2.

    Our Apostle Paul is the person that explains how the middle wall came down.

    Since most of Christianity does not rightly divide the Bible, the middle wall is a doctrine they probably don't know.

    The middle wall was a physical wall in the temple that Gentiles could not walk beyond.

    This wall was also a spiritual division God put in place.

    Gentiles had to go through Israel to get to God. (study proselytes in scripture)

    This middle wall is still up in Matt - John and most of Acts. (It's also up in the Hebrew epistles)

    At the stoning of Stephen Israel rejected the final opportunity to get their prophesied kingdom and God set them aside in blindness. (See Rom CH 9-11 for this explanation)

    Today God is not recognizing Israel spiritually.

    God is dealing with the world in grace.

    Your references are from Romans, Paul our Apostle's book.

    These verses prove God is not recognizing the "seed" or Abrahams seedline as important today, but HE WILL in the future.

    God will finish what he started with Israel after he refines them during the tribulation or "Jacobs trouble" (see Isaiah 60-65)

    Today there is only 2 groups, the lost (unsaved Jews and Gentiles) and the body of Christ. (Those saved under the gospel of the grace of God.

    After the rapture, God will deal again with Israel when his prophetic timetable starts back up.

    God finishes everything he promised to Israel after the tribulation when they are ALL saved. ( Rom 11:26)

    Today the saved are the Body of Christ.

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