Zechariah Chapter 13 Discussion



 
  • Alex on Zechariah 13
    Comments by Alex about Jacob and Esau, Twins but God loved one but hated the other They struggled in the womb . God told Rebpbaca they were 2 manner of ppl , one was of the flesh and 1 was of the spirit ,But Jacob wanted Esau birth right ,The flesh was symbolic of humanity but the spirit is symbolic of the H.G. a baby Christ ,Its Christ that wants to steal our birth right which was death . The Soul that sinneth shall surely DIE. Thats was our birth right DEATH,as the wages of sin is death ,But Jesus is saying we must be bornagain if we wanna live . Jesus took our sins by his blood that red pottage Remember Esau traded his birth right for that RED POTTAGE SYMBOLIC OF THE BLOOD OF CHRIST That he might live, Esau was at the point of death. But its Christ that steals our birth right which was DEATH BY HIS BLOOD. Thats y they say he will come as a thief in the night, Both Peter and Paul say this "A thief in the nite " but they describe this 2 nd coming as birth pains . She brought forth a manchild which is the H.G. Remember Jesus said unless ya drink my blood you will have no life in you ( that red pottage ) Thus Esau lived . In Adam we all die but in Christ a type of Jacob we will ALL live. But Issac caught on to their transaction and made Jacob Esau's lord,The 2 nd born which is the H.G IS GONNA BE OUR LORD. Just as Jacob stole Esau's birth right which was death ( the soul that sinneth shall surely die ) Christ will steal our old birth right which is death . I COME AS A THIEF IN THE NITE . REMEMBER JESUS SAID THE BRIDEGROOM WILL COME AT MIDNIGHT TO CATCH AWAY THE BRIDE . Thus we must be bornagain , Thats our new birth right as the spirit of life in CHRIST JESUS has free from the law of sin and death ( our new birth right ) is life by his blood ,that red pottage ,the blood of the lamb. The thing that is most important is both peter and paul describe this 2 nd coming as birth pains,When Isaiah saw the Kingdom coming he says unto us a child is born. Our birth right
  • Big B on Zechariah 13
    I have never seen anything like that on here unless I missed it? Seems to me everyone is very nice and respectful of others. I would like to know what was said but my email does not work.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Zechariah 13
    Yes John I believe in a double fulfillment or/and 2 fold prophecy.
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Zechariah 13
    what is two fold prophecy?
  • Reading various commentaries on this chapter, most seem to run into a problem in interpreting the prophet described in this chapter. There are some aspects that point to this being a false prophet and others that seem to make reference to Christ. In my opinion, from v2 to the end to the end of v4 the bible is describing a false prophet. Then there is a transition in beginning of v5 following the word "But,,," where the bible is comparing and contrasting the false prophet to another, who is not a prophet, but actually Christ.
    - He is not a prophet, but the Good Shepherd.
    - The wounds in his hand are from the cross.
    - The sword was from God, who used the Roman soldier.

    Any thoughts?
  • People keep saying this is for the Israel. Who do you think Israel is today; where did the ten tribes go? And weren't the gentiles adopted into the tribes of Israel.
    Paul makes repeated references to adoption into the house of Israel through faith: "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his" ( Rom. 8:9). And again: "Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises" ( Rom. 9:4).
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Zechariah 13:6
    Jesus said Matthew 15:24 - But he (Jesus) answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
    John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I (Jesus) know them, and they follow me:
    Galations 3: 28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
    Jeremiah 3:8 - And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away,
    and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
    29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
  • Kaashif Ameer - in Reply on Zechariah 13:6
    I enjoy this because many in school for theology may say that this was only speaking about the children of Israel and the Covenant that the Father had with them .
  • Alex on Zechariah 13
    When they smote him approx. 39 times which is the number of gestation zech said then i willl turn my hand to the lil ones she brought forth a man child that is gona rule all nations prophetic of the h.g thats gonna reprove the world of sin righteousness n judgement.isaiah said a lil child was gonna lead them which is the h.g.th manchild a promise child that results from his death our new birth
  • Bruce on Zechariah 13
    Many People Believe They are Saved and Going to Heaven Because They Said a Prayer or baptize in Water. We are Baptized With The Holy Ghost( Mark 1:8) When The Father Calls( John 6:44) and We Ask Forgiveness( 1John 1:9) The Lord Will Wash Us in His Own Blood( Revelation 1:5) We Will be Changed( 2 Corinthians 5:17) You Will Know and Others Around You. It's Impossible Not to Know. The Change is WOW: 180
  • DEVONNA SMITH on Zechariah 13
    I think so as well. People want to wait until they are right in order to come to God. By then it may be to late. God wants us to come just the way we are and has nothing to do with our outer appearance.
  • Pete on Zechariah 13
    13-9 where only a 1 3 part will remain leaves me breathless because no one I examine this with seems to understand the necessity for getting right with God NOW because our time remaining available for repentance is limited. Your thoughts.
  • Don - in Reply on Zechariah 13
    he's talking only about the children of Israel here, not the other nations because he is only dealing with Israel Amos 3:2
  • ALEX on Zechariah 13
    That was the great promise i will MULTIPLY THY SEED AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN THIS PROMISE CAME AFTER ISAAC WAS OFFERED UP GEN 22. BUT THE OFFERING UP OF CHRIST BY HIS FATHER WILL INITIATE THE MULTIPLICATION OF CHRIST THATS Y ZECK IS SAYING SMITE THE SHEPERD AND THE SHEEP WILL BE SCATTERED THEN I WILL TURN MY HAND TO THE LIL ONES WHICH IMPLIES MULTIPLICATION OF CHRIST WHEN A SEED DIES IT MULTIPLIES.
  • BSP on Zechariah 13
    Verses 4-6~This prophecy foretells a time in the future when many will not claim their involvement in religion. Formerly religious people will deny their religious course.
  • Mari on Zechariah 13
    Verse 6 talks of Christ. When he was nailed to the cross. Those are the scars in his hands. He's talking to Israel.
  • Jeferdma on Zechariah 13
    I don't know Les, but go by the KJV it's always right !!
  • Here is one for you. Why does it state in the KJV "What are these wounds in thine hands? " and in the NIV it states "What are these wounds in thing back "? I know they are talking about the false prophet and the ritual scares related to pagan practices that his friends gave him. I don t get the mix up of hands and back. Why does the KJV say hands? Big difference between the two.
  • Raymond bennett on Zechariah 13
    Looking forward to be free from sin and its affect can 't wait for when God establish the House Of David and the fountain in Jerusalem,
  • Edgar on Zechariah 13:1
    In the last days when the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ starts to diminish only one person will have the true anointing Those who will believe will be saved
  • Debbie on Zechariah 13
    God is going to do a great work for His people they will be cleansed from sin and uncleanness in the land of Palestine. This is the Kingdom restored.


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