Zechariah Chapter 12 Discussion



 
  • Richard H Priday on Zechariah 12 - 10 months ago
    Zechariah 12:1-4

    1The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

    2Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

    3And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

    4In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.

    Verse 1 demonstrates that the God of all creation has specific plans for Israel. Verses 2-4 show how Armageddon will transpire; when all nations fight Israel and are drawn to Armageddon ( Rev. 16:13-14). Eventually as in other earlier campaigns; God's enemies in some part will start to fight one another; although Christ personally destroys the armies in the valley of Armageddon itself. These verses show what is happening first in Judah (the southern part of Israel) then in Jerusalem itself.

    Verses 5 through 7 discuss the "governors of Judah" which may have been the representatives such as Nehamiah and those commissioned to rule by Persia at that time; but certainly there are end time ramifications here as to what I mentioned above; Judah being saved first.

    Verse 8 then talks about supernatural strength against enemies among the residents of Jerusalem. Verse 9 shows how God Himself will fight against the enemies. The rest of the passage shows how those in Israel finally recognize their Messiah. Everyone mourns by themselves. Apparently it isn't until the brink of the Second Coming until there is national repentence for those still alive realizing finally who Christ really is and finally have remorse.
  • Alex N on Zechariah 12 - 2 years ago
    I love to think about this Jesse David and Solomon Kingdom....I see these 3 men as being symbolic of the heavenly Kingdom/ Trinity...In Isaiah 11 :1 Isaiah uses these 3 men which were Father Son and Granson as being symbolic of a kingdom coming in the last days...When God was gonna visit his ppl the 2 nd time ...There shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse...Which was David a type of Christ that came outa of the stem of God Almighty..And a branch shall come out of Davids loins which was Solomon the Granson ... Isaiah 11 :11 .... Isaiah cd not use these 3 men as symbolic of a kingdom coming in the last day simply b/c they had all been dead for approx. 300 yrs ...All this was just prophetic that a Heavenly Kingdom that wd come the last days when God wd visit his ppl the 2 nd time...This 2 nd coming and this last day Kingdom wd be a Trinity kingdom of FATHER SON AND GRANSON That wd be multiplied as the Stars of heaven...The H.G. is the 3 rd person The Child that comes out of Christ loins...Thats y Isaiah referes to Jesus as everlasting Father simply b/c he propagates very God with his words his breath which is his seed.

    ...Also this Abrahamic Trinity was Father Son and Granson...That God Promised to multiply as the sands of seas in multitudes.

    ....When God told Moses that his NAME was Abraham Issac and Jacob that is just prophetic that his Kingdom wd be a father Son and Granson Kingdom without this Granson Jacob and the 12 tribes this Abrahamic Trinity cd not be multiplied as the Sands of the Seas....And thats the way the Heavenly Kingdom the H.G. An Israel of God will be multiplied as the stars of heaven by the Regeneration of the H.G...When the sower will go forth to sow his precious seed in humanity...Resulting in a birth of Christ in everybody....Thats the New Covenant an intimacy with Humanity...I will know them all from the least to the greatest Thus there will be an Israel of God as the Stars of Heaven in multitude .GB
  • Marke - In Reply on Zechariah 12 - 2 years ago
    The earth is not shaped like a pancake. It is shaped more like a ball.
  • Adam - In Reply on Zechariah 12 - 2 years ago
    Bible supports round earth. Calls it a circle: Isaiah 40:22

    I've never met anyone who believes in flat earth who has travelled much, because travellers know that when you fly in one direction long enough you end up in the same starting point, because the earth is a sphere. People do this every day, so there's no mystery to it. You can also prove it by the sun setting in different times around the world. If it was flat the sun would set at the same time. Also you wouldn't have opposite seasons depending on which pole you're near. You can also just measure the shadow length and angle of a common item like a straw and be on the phone at the exact time as someone else measuring it on the opposite side of the earth. Obviously one side would be nighttime which already refutes the theory, but if it was day, the shadows are very different lengths. There's so much evidence suporting sphere earth that it's mind boggling why people can't even agree on that.
  • Ty - In Reply on Zechariah 12 - 2 years ago
    It quite literally is impossible for the Earth to be flat. Flat earthers attempt to twist scripture out of context.

    Here are a few:

    Matthew 4:8 Job 28:24 Job 37:3 and quite often Revelation 7:1 the four corners of the earth.

    Simply an old sailors myth? Afraid the ships would fall off of the earth when the horizon line was reached. Fortunately, they just kept sailing and it never happened.

    We know that science changes daily but physics plays a large role in your question.

    If the earth were flat would different regions be experiencing different seasons? Winter, summer.

    Do planes fly around the earth or do they go one way and then have to turn around to get back. Satellites orbiting. Different views of stars. Is New York city seen from hundreds of miles away. If the earth is flat what's on the other side. If the flat what satellite image shows the "thin ends" or sides of the earth.(its a globe, sphere, round, spinning) No NASA didn't photoshop every single image.

    Let's dig in and pray fervently for the world right now. Should you feel burdened to do so. We are a few bad decisions away from seeing a "flattened earth" if you follow.

    How wonderful is it to Not know all of the workings and mysteries of God.

    Hopefully this helped in some manner.

    Ty
  • Danielle Abraham - In Reply on Zechariah 12 - 2 years ago
    Good evening, that question is spreading like wildfire on the internet social media. I am not sure but was taught that the earth is round. My only suggestion is when in doubt ask Jesus...with any question that is..seek the truth. God bless.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Zechariah 12 - 2 years ago
    What shape is the moon?
  • John A. Swiger on Zechariah 12 - 2 years ago
    Is our Earth flat?
  • Bill on Zechariah 12 - 4 years ago
    And there was a great mourning that day when our lord was hanged on the cross and great it was.
  • Joseph Mashego on Zechariah 12 - 5 years ago
    Zachariah 12 is based on the last day prophecy of unification of Israel back to God for the preparation of the coming Messiah. And Zachariah 12 introduces the current Prime-Minister Benjamin Nathan-Yahu as the fulfiller of I Samuel 23:17 where Jo-Nathan was expected to takeover Israel Kingship after King David of which this never came to pass. Benjamin with the Nathan name.
  • A disciple on Zechariah 12 - 6 years ago
    "And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it." God is putting all the earth into the furnace to be melted, to show what is in their thoughts; who is on the LORD's side, and who is an antichrist child of the devil! Jesus will come to save Israel!
  • Charles fiorucci on Zechariah 12 - 8 years ago
    Jesus Christ the sinless son of god is coming soon repent
    of sin religion is sending countless to hell only Jesus Christ
    the God man will save. john14-6
  • Eaglesrock on Zechariah 12 - 8 years ago
    To Jean There are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit and theses THREE are one. God said let US make man. Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father. God said this is my beloved son, hear Him. We are to baptise in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Steven said I see Jesus siting at the right hand of the Father. There are more I hope I made my point.
  • Rudy Moreno on Zechariah 12:10 - 9 years ago
    Awesome prophecy of our Lord of glory ....... JESUS
  • Jerry Leonard on Zechariah 12 - 9 years ago
    CORRECTION to my last post, it should have been Zechariah Chapter 12, verse 6
  • Jerry leonard on Zechariah 12 - 9 years ago
    Zechariah chapter 12 v.8 tells plainly Israel will defeat all their close enemy neighbors next to or round about them taking all Jerusalem and land with it. This will be Israel 's next great war. Read Ezekiel 38 v.11 Israel has walls, bars and gates today. When Russia comes down there will be nowalls, bars or gates.
  • ROGER GRIFFITH on Zechariah 12 - 12 years ago
    I BELEIVE AT THIS DAY WERE LIVING IN, THE BIBLE PLAINLY SAID THAT GOD WILL BE WITH JUDAH AND ALL THE JERASALEM AND GOD WILL DESTROY NATIONS ROUND ABOUT HER THAT COME UP AGAINST THEM." PRAISE THE LORD, FOR HE IS THE ALMIGHTY.'


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