Titus Chapter 2 Discussion

  • Helen Denmark on Titus 2
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  • Jane on Titus 2
    Adamplease read 1Timothy 6:10. The love of money is the root of all evil.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Titus 2
    Me too. I'm rather fond of all kinds of critters.
  • Adam - in Reply on Titus 2
    Great explanation and history lesson.

    Unfortunately hearsay sometimes interferes with how people remember the Bible. For instance some say 'God helps people who help themselves' or 'Money is the root of all evil' or the '3 wisemen that visited baby Jesus' or 'asking Jesus into your heart'. And none of those are in the Bible. Like the telephone game, it usually starts with the truth of scripture, but then it gets changed and morphed through hearsay into something else. So, glad we have God's word today that hasn't changed and still means what it says.
  • ISAIAH 11:6 DISCOVERY - in Reply on Titus 2
    The verse you speak of is Isaiah 11:6, and it does not say the Lion will lay down with the lamb.

    Here is the history of the error:

    The Hebrew text used the word "z-'" (wolf) as the animal dwelling with the lamb, so if one compares the most modern translations to the ancient Hebrew text, they are accurate. It is apparent that the commonly memorized phrase, "the lion shall lay down with the lamb" never existed in the Bible text. So how did this happen? How are so many people using a memorized "verse" that does not exist?"

    The "lion shall lay down with the lamb" is a lyric made popular by the 1937 song, "Peace in the Valley" written by Thomas A. Dorsey for Mahalia Jackson. It was first made popular by Red Foley and the Sunshine Boys in 1951 after being recorded by Sam Cooke of the Soul Stirrers in 1950 and rising to limited success. But it wasn't until Elvis Presley recorded the song on his first Christmas Album with the Jordanaires that "Peace in the Valley" received worldwide fame.

    This is a really catch for you. I remember that song from my childhood. I'm 70 :D Learn something new every day, right.

    ISAIAH 11

    6. The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

    7. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
  • Jerry Foley on Titus 2
    Ive always heard that the bible teachs that( the lion shall lay with the lamb) were does it say this in the bible? Thank you.
  • Dianne - in Reply on Titus 2
    Sheila In relationship to Gods people to serve in any capacity, supply needs of spiritually teaching Gods Word, physically food other capacities, we all serve in the Body of Christ some in greater capacities than others. God Bless There is much more to be shared on this subject matter.
  • Sheila Price on Titus 2
    What does word minister mean, biblical
    I love this verse and it's helpful.
  • Kristi Kristi on Titus 2:13
    Amen, This Holy Bible Verse is powerful! Praise Jesus-Yeshua!

    Love Always, YSIC o/

    Kristi Ann
  • Eddie mae wade on Titus 2:13
    The face of the Lord,reveal himself through things,peoples,&places.everyday.
  • Rob on Titus 2
    Titus 2 v14

    Looking for that blessed hope , and glorious appearing of the great God and our savior Jesus Christ

    Our hope the coming of Christ in Glory!

    Amen !
  • John g mullen - in Reply on Titus 2:11
    thank you very much
  • Chris - in Reply on Titus 2:11
    Page 2.

    Rom 2:14-16 speaks of the Gentiles (i.e. those who did not receive God's Laws) & their accountability before God as a result. Now, in Paul's day, the Gentiles (Romans/Greeks) had no reference to God's Laws as we have today in our Judeo/Christian cultures, but were subject to their own devised laws. Likewise, those more primitive souls who live in the jungles would either have their own laws or instinctively performed the laws written in their consciences. And these laws, says Paul, either accused them or excused them, making them conscious of errors (sins) in their hearts.

    So to the Jew who followed the Law to the letter, or to the Gentile trying to obey the laws given (or, not given) to him, or to the tribal convicted in his own heart, all would be accountable to God for their perfect obedience to them. And we know that none are righteous - not even one, none can keep any law perfectly & none can ever claim to have an untarnished conscience. The only solution to man's failure to keep God's Laws & incurring His penalty, was to have faith in His Son's redeeming work at the Cross. Without that type of faith it is impossible to please God & impossible to be saved from His righteous Anger against us. And that is why, Jesus commission in Mt 28:19,20 was to reach out into 'all nations' to teach them this Truth so that they might be saved.

    I believe that if there is anyone that should stand in trepidation before God, it should probably be each one of us, who have failed in reaching out to someone with the hope of the Gospel.
  • Chris - in Reply on Titus 2:11
    Page 1.

    John, if I might respond to you once again.

    I think I understand your point: "that God's Grace to all meant that His Salvation has appeared (revealed) to all people". One could look at it this way that all people everywhere have had that grace applied to them. Yet, we know that the Gift of Salvation has been given for all yet also requires a personal response to it in this life & not after death; ( Jn 3:16 "that whoever believes"; Rom 10:13-15 "whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved") are just a couple of portions.

    Every Christian Mission, including NTM, will have this burden upon them: 'that unless someone goes out to proclaim this Good News to the unreached, then those people will never hear. And if they don't hear, they will not be able to respond, & if they don't respond to Christ, then they have rejected the Grace of God & bound for a Christ-less eternity". As well, there is nowhere in the Bible that anyone, even the unreached people, will have a second opportunity to stand before God to receive some 'special' respite from going to Hell. Heb 9:27: "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement". There is no second opportunity (even for that "little brown man"), nor purgatory, between now & eternity.
  • Mishael on World Evangelizing - in Reply on Titus 2:11
    Romans chapter 1

    18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

    20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE.

    21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    Comment: People have been given the ability to learn through natural things that Someone had to of made all this.

    This world will soon pass away. If people are so inclined: then google to find a church that sends missionaries to those places and help fund their efforts.

    We are to "Go Ye into all the world". That may mean going to your own neighborhood to invite people to come to your church. A little friendliness makes all the difference.

    Or it may mean giving some of your God given wealth to help missionaries go ye for you. David Wilkerson (deceased now) son Gary Wilkerson of World Challenge sends missionaries all over the world. See his website. You might like to get his newsletter. I love it.
  • John g mullen on Titus 2:11
    Titus 2:11-14 NKJV

    For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.

    i am of the mind that because of this verse no one needs to go to an eternal hell. i went to new tribes mission with the belief that if the "little brown man in the jungle" did not hear and acceot Christ he'd go straight to hell. well this verse leads me to believe that when the little brown man dies and stands before God. God will ask him if he wants to join Him or go into eternal punishment. this,my theory, let's man off the hook as far as evangelizing the world. i mean who would choose eternal damnation? what think ye?
  • John g mullen - in Reply on Titus 2:11
    thank you for your reply
  • Chris - in Reply on Titus 2:11
    John, these are two types of prayer that you are considering. In Mt 6 (also in Lk 11) this was a special request by Jesus' disciples to given them a prayer as John the Baptist did for his disciples (disciples = those under training by a teacher). It was common for rabbis/teachers to give their followers a prayer to be recited that encompassed their beliefs & helped these newbies to focus on God. Hence, this request to Jesus by His disciples. And though this prayer is still used by many in many Churches, sadly it often just becomes a recitation or formality. The preference for believers is to pray to the Father from the heart as a result of the yearning of the spirit: Mt 6:6, is 'to pray to the Father privately & earnestly' - this is not just a recitation like the Lord's Prayer.

    So too at the Garden of Gethsemane, the disciples knew that their Lord's time was at hand, & they should have been alert & watchful rather than asleep while Jesus prayed to the Father. It is just like when someone we love is going through a bad patch in their lives, the only two things that we can immediately resort to on their behalf, is to minister to them & be in serious prayer for them. The Lord's Prayer is not applicable for this, but earnest prayer from our heart. This is the correct response in such a situation. Yet, the disciples succumbed to boredom & tiredness while their Master agonized.
  • John g mullen on Titus 2:11
    in mathew 6 jesus tells us how we should be praying why then elsewhere in one of the gospels does he ask the desiciples to pray with him in the garden of gethsemane? does that not conflict with what he says in Matt. 6?
  • Chris on Titus 2
    That is true, Lillian, we live in an age where the younger ones pay little regard to the knowledge shared by their elders. I suppose the divide is made even more noticeable as we are taught to think & act independently, we spend more time away from home & the outside influences that bear upon us, particularly adolescents, cause us to function more as individuals rather than a cohesive family unit. Even in Eastern cultures where once upon a time, this divide was not there, is now evident as the world generally moves away from strong family structure/bonding & accountability, towards independence from any authoritarian rule. And this of course, then converts to our attitude towards spiritual things, where there may now be no necessity for a belief in God, as many believe that 'god is within us' or, 'we are our own god'. Tragic!
  • Lillian on Titus 2
    I thank God for this teaching on how the older should teach the younger. But i find in this day and age that the younger do not want to hear much from the older. Or the older is afraid to minister to the younger. I believe that we should pray for wisdom in how to make our approach.
  • Joe - in Reply on Titus 2
    Unfortunately, very true. For the past 2000 years Christianity has been under attack - Jesus said such would be the case and that we would experience troubles and persecutions. As long as we are in this world the same will continue.
  • Adam - in Reply on Titus 2
    Indeed Christianity has been under attack. Very strangely, the same ideology that attacks Christians seems ok with other religions. What is bad is good for them, and good is now bad. This mentality is mentioned in Titus 1:16, Romans 1:28.
  • Alfred Gurney on Titus 2
    Ch 2 v12 is exactly what needs to preached in our churches , schools and at home today. especially now with the way democratic congress/senators are trying to turn this country into a hell hole.
  • Caroline Ward - in Reply on Titus 2
    As it always is, the Bible (The KJV of course...only Bible based on the correct Hebrew and Greek Manuscripts...not the corrupt one of Westcott and Hort!) I've heard it sung and preached "God said it, and I believe it, and that's good enough for me"....But in truth it should be, "God said it, and that's good enough for me" We add nothing to God or take away anything from God, or His Holy Word, whether we believe it or not. It is still TRUTH!
  • D W L - in Reply on Titus 2
    Caroline Ward - Sounds right to me and the word teaches it. I Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

    14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

    15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
  • Teri on Titus 2
    wow, Matthew Henry goes deep: And the further we are removed from boasting of fancied good works, or trusting in them, so that we glory in Christ alone, the more zealous shall we be to abound in real good works.
  • Gwendolyn Wright on Titus 2
    I believe it is God speaking through the Apostle Paul to encourage all Christian to look to him, and to understand that even in this dark era of unbelief in this present world we can and must live holy, we must let the light of God s love shine through our life s in the power of the Holy Spirit to show forth the Love and compassion of the Father so more souls might be added to the kingdom.

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