Romans Chapter 8 Discussion


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  • Apostle Lewis on Romans 8:18
    It's important that as children of God that we not loose hope based on the trials we face , for greater is coming and when it does those things which we faced in times past will in no wise measure up ! "Eyes have not seen nor ears heard neither have entered into the heart of man the things that God has prepared for them that love Him are the called according to His purpose ! Hold on Church
  • Arthur Gutierrez on Romans 8:28
    I truly believe this passage goes beyond the gift of salvation, and the work of sanctification by the power of the Holy Spirit which by Grace is beautiful beyond measure. But the understanding comes from the last part of the verse understanding God's Purpose. It is so easy to say "All things work together for good to those who love God. But it is working through God's purposes for your life that takes greater faith, greater peace, greater joy, greater contentment in our circumstances, trials and testing that one can say God works all things for good according to His purposes for me, rather than to speak this passage up in the air as wishful thinking?
  • Lionjudah on Romans 8
    Evryone got to stop reading the bible carnal read it in the spirit wake up all? those that have an ear have an ear spirit in truth!! Jah bless...
  • Andy G van den Berg on Romans 8:24
    On Romans 8:15

    By nature every person is born in sin through the sinful seed of their natural fathers and conditioned therein (1 Peter 1:23). For that reason and in order to become a son of God, which are born of God, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God, a person must be 'Born Again' (John 1:12,13; 3:3-7; 1 John 3:9; 5:4).

    By attending a man-made institution a few hours a week (Acts 7:48; 17:24), does not mean that a person can make a claim that they are followers of Christ and 'Born Again'. That is falsehood, as in truth they follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Galatians 4:8; Revelation 12:9). This is how Satan has transformed Himself into an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:13-15).

    Only through 'True Repentance' will God be able to reveal Himself, and adopt you as His sons and daughters (Romans 8:15,23; 2 Corinthians 6:18; Galatians 4:5; Ephesians 1:5; Hebr. 12:5; 1 John 3:1).

    The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God (Acts 26:18).

    For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived (Revelation 12:9), and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive (John 14:17).

    You need not that any man teach you (Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), It is only by revelation of God that you will come to know Christ (Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Galatians 1:16; Ephesians 3:3,5; Revelation 1:1). It is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it (Matthew 7:14).
  • Daughter of Christ on Romans 8:34
    THIS WAS REVEALED TO ME BY THE HOLY SPIRIT //Hallelujah//

    8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

    |Interpretation|: If we live according to the flesh and we dont repent, we are condemned for everlasting *death*. But if we live according to the spirit we will have everlasting *life* and *peace*.

    8:33 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

    |Interpretation|: If we are with God, no matter what comes against us, we will win. Cuz we have God, who is above all things.
  • Lionjudah - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    Hallelujah I'm just going to eddyfy somemore to the word...

    Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

    5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

    6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

    7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

    24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
  • Onyekachukwu Ogechi Levinus Alaka on Romans 8:2
    For the law of the Spirit of life - That is, the doctrine of divine grace in the gospel, accompanied with the quickening, commanding influence of the Holy Spirit, hath made me free from the law of sin and death - That is, not only from the Mosaic dispensation, which, if relied on for justification, left men under the guilt and power of sin, and condemned them to the second death; but also and especially from the law, or constraining power of sin itself, which is attended with spiritual death, and, if not removed, brings men to death eternal. In other words, "The Spirit of Christ, giving me a new life, is now another law, or rule of my actions, freeing me from the motions and power of sin, to which I was subject while under the [Mosaic] law, and from the death to which that law subjected me; or, the gospel, attended with the Spirit, hath wrought this freedom in me." So Whitby. The gospel, or covenant of grace, may be fitly termed the law of the Spirit, or a spiritual law; and that not only as it reaches to the spirit of man, but is such a law as gives spiritual life, or is the ministration of the Spirit, and of life, 2 Corinthians 3:6; 2 Corinthians 3:8; being accompanied with a divine power, which communicates spiritual life to the soul here, and prepares it for eternal life hereafter. It is observable, that the person who speaks in the foregoing chapter is introduced here as continuing the discourse, and showing the method in which his deliverance from the body of sin and death, mentioned Romans 7:25, was accomplished. And what is affirmed concerning him, is intended of other believers also. Here, therefore, we have a second motive to holiness, namely, that under the new covenant sufficient assistance being given to all who in faith and prayer apply for it, to free them from the law of sin and death, they cannot excuse their sins by pleading the strength of their sinful passions, or the depravity of their nature.

    Matthew Henry's Concise
  • Sheila Hedgepeth on Romans 8:21
    in ROMAN 8:30 what does predestine mean this chapter? in my King James Study Bible is says its meaning is not the same as what we think of predestined. help.
  • Hogan - in Reply on Romans 8:21
    predestined:

    to predetermine, decide beforehand

    in the NT of God decreeing from eternity

    to foreordain, appoint beforehand
  • Carleton - in Reply on Romans 8:21
    Romans 8:15

    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but ye have received the Sprit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
  • Rj on Romans 8:34
    Could someone explain predestination to me? Does that mean that someone could be thinking they are saved but are not? Could that mean we are praying for some that have no chance? I must have this wrong, how will someone know if they are truly saved? How do i explain this to those who ask me?
  • Brendan - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    Predestination refers to first Earth age-Genesis 1:1. It was perfect and beautiful. We all existed in Spirit bodies. Genesis 1:2 refers to the destruction of the first Earth age. It will take too long in writing to explain so I refer you to YouTube. Three world ages Shepherds Chapel. Find out about the elect. Those that stood with God ago lucifer. This is the mystery that Paul writes about.
  • Lionjudah - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    just to eddyfy u all glory to most high jah bless...
  • Lionjudah - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

    9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

    10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
  • Lionjudah - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

    4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

    5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

    6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

    24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

    64But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

    65And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

    3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

    4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

    6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

    7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
  • Diana Chophy - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    Thank you for sharing your testimony
  • YaleTaylor on Romans 8:34
    How can you get plum blossoms without any cold and bone?
  • Fred scanlan on Romans 8:24
    We are creatures here on earth,subject unto those things outside of the spirit of God who created us! Paul refers this as vanity. With all this we have to do with, can be described as the inner workings of a person in this world. "the kingdom of heaven within us".When we learn the truths of God, there is a transformation that takes place a renewing of the mind and spirit. A transfiguring developed through growth in the gospel message. This love is the love He has towards us in Jesus who calls all people unto himself! Our predestination is given through this saving faith in the knowledge of Him who calls us. Christ , is the way the truth and the life. Pray without ceasing, Remember that you are reading Gods word.Not mans.
  • Carl - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    Hi Christin,

    God bless you for requesting prayer and desiring Him. When you mention confusion, I thought of one of my favorite verses, and would like to share it with you. "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace..." 1 Cor 14:33

    Also, you're not alone - we're all weak and foolish and the devil is attacking us all - we're all in this together, and can help each other. Courage to you!
  • Evangelist Alicia Garth on Romans 8:22
    And too, could it be that the Heavenly Father is in great anger because humanity won't turn back to Him. Times after times after times He have sent warnings. He wants us to come back to Him. By repentance, that's the ONLY way. We can't come to the Father but by Jesus Christ.

    We have seen plaque after plaque after plaque so now the whole world is in time out. From Genesis to Malachi, From Matthew to Rev. We still said, not now God. BUT God is saying, get in the corner and be quiet. It will leave to go out from under the blood, you may DIE. Stay inside and live.

    Read Galatians 6:7 Read 2Peter 3:9 and of course Read 3:10.
  • Andrew on Romans 8:21
    Thank you for this discussion form and relevant topic as such for god....
  • Bro. Don - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    It is, without a doubt, God's Will for you to be healed. Which way He will heal you is yet to be determined. Your part is to trust His leading and keep the faith; His part is to keep His Word and heal you(Matthew 8:7). He is well able to do it and He will.
  • K8mb - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    Danny, spend your time in God's word and pray for deliverance. As long as you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and savior He will deliver you and help you. Seek first the Kingdom of God and all these things will be added to you. You have to seek God for His guidance in your life. Reading your Bible and praying will help you. God be with you and bless you.
  • Kat - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    Sadie,

    About 10 years ago, I went through the same things you described. However, I was able to recognize that this was a side effect/ evil invitation because I had for the first time in my life just been prescribed antidepressants. The antidepressant that I was prescribed, actually given free samples of, caused all your mentioned symptoms.

    Not many days after taking the pills every day the symptoms began. Every night I had the worst nightmares of my life, dreaming that I was being chased by a serial killer and this would cause me to wake up sweating and panting rapidly.

    This would occur every single night without fail. I truly believe big pharma to be in coercion with satan. As well, whenever I saw or heard something sad happened, for instance someone dying, I had absolutely no emotions towards it. I was completely numb. No sympathy or empathy. Just nothingness. These symptoms really frightened me to the core. I knew this was not how God intended me to live.

    All my symptoms ended completely after discontinuing taking the antidepressants.

    Even if you aren't taking drugs prescribed or street drugs, this is obviously demonic attacks on you and you need to try to determine if there is something you can do to stop it like I was able to or if you need divine intervention through spiritual cleanliness. Stay in the faith.

    God and Jesus work through unwavering faith/ your belief. If you even second guess that God and Jesus cannot deliver you from evil, then you will not be delivered from it. But if you believe 100% and stay in the faith, your healing will come.

    I pray the best for you and your healing.
  • A Bible believer - in Reply on Romans 8
    U need the blood. Not just faith. U need the blood over you. This pastor explains alot. Search up on youtube the Palm Beach Sanctuary Of The Palm Beaches. U can search it on Youtube or on the web.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    Kat all you write is true. The Greek New testament word for sorcery and witchcraft is the same root word as pharmacy.

    These are the same group who want to inject us with vaccines that down the road they find out were dangerous.

    Antichrists like Bill Gates want us all to get jabbed with God (and the devil) knows what.

    Some Vaccines contain Thimerosal which is mercury with a fancy name.

    Look up Mercury poisoning symptoms and autism symptoms and see if they match.

    Mercury has no known usefulness in the Body and is a known poison.

    I also believe their are trying to kill and damage the people of the Lord.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    Most drugs given, alter the Brain, measurably. A normal brain can go dark like an Alzheimer's brain. Street drugs are worse. You should read up on this stuff. Some drugs prevent the brains ability to use or produce serotonin; the happiness hormone. Even if you take anti-psychotics they can cause serious paranoia, can't sleep on your own, and other bad things. You have to ask God to DELIVER you from them. Sorcerers in the Bible are the maker of ancient drugs. They don't know that the Bible delivers the death penalty for doing that. Do a word study on sorcery.

    The Bible mentions that prayer with fasting may be needed to be delivered of drugs that hurt you. It might help to have corporate prayer and laying on of hands. Pass the info forward ok? Help someone else out.

    I found all this out for my sister who refuses to give up her suitcase of many colored pills :(
  • Carl - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    Hi Sadie,

    I'm proud of you for sharing your struggle. I am reminded of a verse that really impressed me recently. Exodus 33:14 "And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest." Isn't that such a comforting promise? I pray you can experience that! God bless.
  • NewmanBarbara on Romans 8:24
    As long as the road is right, you are not afraid of the road
  • Carl - in Reply on Romans 8:34
    Doina, I'm sorry to hear you're having a hard time. I have them too and wish I didn't, but there is a silver lining found in 1 Peter 5:10. All the best to you!


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