Romans Chapter 12 Discussion


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  • Danon on Romans 12:3
    Does it say what tribe of the bible pale people come from?
  • Tina on Romans 12:3
    What happens in the story of God Calls Abraham in Genesis
  • Pearson on Romans 12:3
    What does it mean to think high of oneself.?
  • Chris - in Reply on Romans 12:3
    "To think of oneself more highly" speaks of a person who believes he has the gifts & qualities that exceed those seen in others. Narcissism is an extreme form of self-aggrandizement or self-elevation & is diametrically opposed to what was in Jesus Christ & what the Holy Spirit produces in a child of God.
  • Ed Hancock on Romans 12
    What chapter is the Lord's Prayer in
  • David Brown on Romans 12:21
    Honestly speaking, it doesn't matter how much evil is going on in this world, we just need to make sure we do not walk along with this evil and don't join in on it because it's easier to get judged by god if you're a Christian than if you're not. To all Christians, it is more dangerous to walk in evil than for non-Christians because they were taught so much about God and all the things he does to people who do evil. Christians get in more trouble cause they should know better cause they were taught about what to do and what not to do. A Christian doing evil is like lying to God with your actions.

    I might be a 14 year old but that doesn't mean I don't know my information about the Bible. I admit that I have done a lot of wrong in my life but trust me, I am trying my hardest not to do wrong but I am struggling. The problem is that I believe to myself that my ways to accomplish things is easier cause I do not like working to accomplish something, but I learned that the hard way cause I have been dealing with challenges and none of my ways are working. I do not like dealing with these problems without my ways working but I don't know any other ways to fix them. All these problems are problems that I have been working hard on and I noticed that with all the problems I am working hard on, I am actually doing better with fixing these problems than when I used my ways, now that is just the power of God I know for a fact. He has been giving me ways to to fix problems and he has showed me that not all my problems can be fixed my way and he has showed me that in order to deal with these problems, I am going to have to work for my accomplishments.

    If you read this, Thank You
  • Chris - in Reply on Romans 12:21
    David, as a 14 year old, you're certainly dealing with a lot of internal strife & challenges, & this demonstrates quite an advanced mental & spiritual development in you.

    Without knowing all your facts, what I do detect is that you have a strong Will & direction for your life, & when things are not going according to plan, you become troubled & amazed. Though you did state that you're finding out that God has been helping through your problems. However, I don't think you will ultimately be successful by doing things in your wisdom & strength.

    For the Christian, it takes a lot of faith in God, to be able to step back & let God lead us, direct us & help us through our difficulties. The natural man says, "I can do it on my own", because that is something inbuilt in us to bring out the "self will & self confidence" we have to know everything & accomplish everything. But as you've found out, there's limitations to what you can do & that your efforts don't always turn out as you would like. It's true that God does expect us to use the wisdom & knowledge He gives us to deal with life's matters, but He also expects us that we know from where this knowledge comes from & to Whom we need to run to when our resources are exhausted. I sense, you are learning this important Truth.

    Proverbs 14:12 says, "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." This tells us, at least in respect of the course & end of one's life, that man will always determine how his fate will end. But his 'wisdom' is actually folly because he simply cannot know from within himself something that only God knows & determines for man.

    Rather, we must cast ourselves upon the Lord completely. Proverbs 3:5-7, "Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil." As Christians, we must fully trust Him.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Romans 12:12
    Sabina, the Spirit of truth be with you, Christ was betrayed and killed; yet none had apathy for him. Christ said, Father forgive them for they no what they do. The Spirit grace you with his love, forgive them and live under Christ authority; recompense is mine saith the Lord.
  • Adam - in Reply on Romans 12:12
    Hello, I believe the answer to your first question is 'yes.' Link - The answer to your second question is 'no' in my opinion. If you did nothing wrong and were betrayed, you don't need to apologize for your actions if you did nothing wrong. Forgiveness is different than apologizing for ones bad behavior. Forgiveness is mostly an action within your own heart- to release anger bitterness resentment vengeance and all the toxic feelings someone may carry when wronged. It does you no good and its against God's scripture. Forgiveness can be either in person or not. If the person may put you at physical risk of harm, then in person is not a healthy option. There are other ways to communicate if needed. You can also forgive without communicating. Many people find it helpful to write a letter expressing all your injustices toward the person then symbolically burning it and forgiving them and wiping it clean from your heart and thoughts. This process is in a way like Jesus dying for you and forgiving your sins. God bless!
  • BSP on Romans 12
    Verse 11-We must have a constant flow of God's holy spirit in order to be aglow with the spirit and be enthusiastic.
  • Andy G van den Berg on Romans 12:7
    To STANJETT

    Reviewing all your vain 'Rhetoric' (Matthew 15:9), it is obvious that your mind has been corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ (2 Corinthians 11:3; 1 Timothy 1:3; 4:1; Hebr. 13:9; 2 Peter 3:17; Jude 4).

    Please study who the 'Holy Ghost' is and what it means to sin against the 'Holy Ghost' (Mark 3:29; Luke 12:10).

    Matthew 9:12. They (the believers) that be whole need not a physician (Christ), but they that are sick (sinners). Trust us; the large majority of people on this website are 'not well'.

    Seek, and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7).

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Romans 12:7
    The air in Nova Scotia must be thin enough to keep just enough oxygen flowing to ones brain ! Aye!. This web site moves quite well with the help of the holy spirit ! Thank you for your concern. Any direction the reader needs here can be explained through his own revelation and without those who wish only to babel! I have been on this site for some time and except that we may have differences in understanding, but there is a line one crosses when you proclaim we are all lost! If you have nothing more than this ,please take up your bed and leave.
  • Who is the book of ecclesiastics talking to on Romans 12:7
    Explain please
  • Stanjett - in Reply on Romans 12:7
    Paul is talking to the church.
  • Michelle on Romans 12:7
    Blessed morning Teboho

    It was blessed to be under both we were taught by the teacher when she preached,and you will find yourself by the altar during his preaching . You can tell the difference .........The difference to my understanding is teaching deals with educating ,teaching the word of God in depth to be understood so we can grow to become righteous Christians.



    Ministering is touching on areas that affects us daily and convicting sinners backsliders and backsliders

    at heart giving the answers from GOD'S word ( not the world's system) that will bring breakthrough to set free ,to turn hearts to GOD comfort, peace and hope ,

    ministering to the needs of people

    Ministering is like giving medication to the sick
  • Holly on Romans 12:7
    whenever something is burdening me i realize that i am being overcome . im so thankful for this verse. overcoming evil with good is a hard one though. any advice on how this can be done would be welcomed. " Brethren pray for us"
  • Tender - in Reply on Romans 12:7
    Because these are the last days, we who love God are all being tested and burdened to the very limit. Be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. You have his life in you. That life will never fail you . it's not an easy fix. The days are evil. Always stay in the light, and be a light to others. Peace
  • Andy G van den Berg on Romans 12:7
    On Romans 12:2

    The Word of God is God (John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation (2 Peter 1:20).

    The word 'Repent' in different forms (repent, repentance, repented, repentest, repenteth, repenting, repentings) is mentioned 110 times in the KJV, and means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. The word 'repent' used in the New Testament was translated from the Greek word "metanoeo", and means to change, transform, to think differently or reconsider.

    It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God (Acts 26:18).

    For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived (Revelation 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive (Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

    You need not that any man teach you (Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Galatians 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Revelation 12:9).

    It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ (Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Galatians 1:16; Ephesians 3:3,5; Revelation 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world (1 John 5:4; Revelation 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived (Revelation 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it (Matthew 7:14).

    Luke 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH
  • Fred Scanlan on Romans 12:8
    Paul, explains the spiritual body of Christ. A functioning body,like our own personal physical bodies. Yet too see, within this body there are different children with different gifts! What is profound is that when we understand these truths , the renewing of the mind Paul speaks of is less confrontational, allowing the spirit in each of us to have more significance in the development of our whole person!(sanctification-conversion) Eye hath not seen or ear heard neither entered into the heart of man the things that God has prepared for them that love Him. Our sin is the dimension in man's soul that prevents him from moving mountains!
  • Bob Grove on Romans 12:8
    Verse 2

    It was once said this book (bible) will keep you from sin or sin will keep you from this book .

    The renewing of our mind with Gods mind through his word is essential.
  • T - in Reply on Romans 12:8
    Amen Bob! Thank you for sharing that.
  • Marti on Romans 12:8
    Romans 12:20. What is the the meaning of heap coals of fire on his head?
  • Teboho on Romans 12:7
    Dear Adam

    What is the difference between Teaching and Ministering that is described in Romans chapt 12vs 7.. I have asked this before and didn't get a response.

    God bless

    Teboho
  • Chris - in Reply on Romans 12:7
    Teboho, if I may offer my understanding on these words. I see these as two distinct types of ministry in the Church just as the other verses that speak of those who encourage others or show mercy are also very useful in the building up of God's people. So, the Gk. word for 'Ministry' (v 7) is 'diakonia', otherwise translated as deaconship or service. So, the work of a deacon would come under the meaning of this word as well as others fulfilling this type of service, which must also include the sisters in a fellowship, who wonderfully serve in many other ways. I see Paul in this chapter trying to point out that whatever gift is given to us by the Spirit, we must use it diligently & cheerfully, for the blessing of the Church & not for our profit or elevation. I hope this helps you.
  • Teboho - in Reply on Romans 12:7
    Dear Chris

    Thanks for that but you did not answer me fully. I asked what the difference between Ministering and Teaching is. You touched on the first and not the latter. Please assist and explain fully

    God Bless
  • Al - in Reply on Romans 12:8
    TEBOHO i believe that ministering in the KJV relates to taking care of the every day business of the Church, such as the Levites did within the temple where Moses placed the Ark and all the other items God commanded him to build. Teaching I believe is the work of Moses, Jesus and others, to give/explain the word of God. and to show us what laws God wants us to follow and how to be saved in order to receive a place in the Kingdom of God.
  • Chris - in Reply on Romans 12:7
    Teboho, apologies for neglecting this - I assumed that the word 'ministering' was the main focus here.

    If I could give the Greek here: 'didaskon' = to teach, instruct or impart knowledge. It is used many times in the NT as it spoke of Jesus teaching (as in Matthew 21:23), those from the apostles (2 Thes 2:15), or teaching within the Church (1 Timothy 3:2, 2 Timothy 2:24, where this gift is generally exercised by the elders who were carefully appointed to lead the Church to fulfil this important function). Often these days, the role of a Pastor (Gk. Poimen) is also seen as not only a shepherd of the flock, but also the Church leader & elder, but scripturally evident, a pastor's role is a shepherd/guide, who may or may not be an elder or have the gift of teaching.
  • Steven - in Reply on Romans 12:7
    Teboho thank you for that question. The words ministry and teach are mentioned many times in the word of God and we must ask the Holy Spirit to help us with understanding what context it is being used in for example Romans 12:7 reads "Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching: Now the word ministry can mean to hold a position of leadership example Pastor, Decon and so on and it can also mean to serve or in other words "wait" as in waiter get it, lol then if take the word wait it means to allow time to go by or to service, I am doing this to let you know that ministries have a function in the body of Christ and if you study Gods word he will "Teach" your Ministry through the Holy Spirit. God Bless you and remember One God One Body...
  • Alex on Romans 12:8
    Comments by Alex on how Jesus will fulfil the Law. The law will be fulfilled in us sinners by the NEW BIRTH I.E. HIS DEATH, When a seed dies it multiplies ,he told the Greeks ( Gentiles ) Unless a seed dies it abide alone, But if it dies it will bring forth much fruit impling multiplication via his seed etc, Had he not died there wd have been only 1 Christ but b/c of his death he will be multiplied as the stars of heaven, That was the great PROMISE i will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven, That we might all get a seed to initiate a birth of Christ in us.Every man is gonna get a measure of faith. That good seed is the Word,The contents of that book in the right hand of the Father.Listen carefully Smite the shephard ( his death ) and the sheep will be scattered, THEN I WILL TURN MY HAND TO THE LITTLE ONES, spirits HIS OFFSPRING,Multiplication,She brought forth a man Child which was the H.G. its his children that are gonna be born in us sinners ( our new birth ) AND THEM THAT ARE BORN OF GOD CANNOT SIN thats our new inner man the H.G. REMEMBER unless ya receive the kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in,that heavenly Child is the result of his seed that is gonna be born in us sinners. Thats what he was trying to tell th GREEKS THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL EVER SEE HIM IS IF YOU BIRTH HIM , and them that are born of God cannot Sin simply b.c that God seed remains in us,we are dead but Christ lives in us . Thats y he always refered to himself as the son of man,Mankind is gonna birth Christ,I.E. BRING FORTH FRUIT UNTO GOD, Smite the shephard and the sheep will be scattered then i will turn my hand to the little ones thats the babes and sucklings that is gonna result from his seed the Word. Thus they come in his Name whosoever receives one such Child in MY NAME. In his name implies he is the FATHER OF THE H.G. the father will send th H.G IN MY NAME. Thus the Godhead is Father Son and GRANSON. THATS Y HE SAID MY NAME IS ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JACOB .GB


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