Romans Chapter 11 Discussion

  • Mkz - in Reply on Romans 11
    Matthew 13:47-48

    [47]Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:

    [48]Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.

    Confession comes after the net has been cast into the sea 'that is the preaching of the gospel Romans 10:14-15,17

    [14]How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

    [15]And how shall they preach,(casting of the net) except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

    [17]So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
  • M/ on Romans 11
    Romans 10:9 is not a salvation message to the world. It is given to those that are born again, by water & Spirit as in the book of Acts.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Romans 11
    Hi Stephen.

    Who are you talking about?

    Don't answer that.

  • Stephen Scott on Romans 11
    What a great orator. I so enjoy just listening to him. What is his name?
  • Alex N - in Reply on Romans 11
    Hiya Robert GBU .....Lemme tell you that we are now under a new COVENANT by the blood of Jesus....Being a Jew now means we must be bornagain by Promise....Which is the H.G. a Spiritual being....Its only the H.G. that is born by Promise ,Only he is the seed of Jesus....That Promise seed....Its exactly like Romans 9:8 ... says....The Children of the flesh are not the real Children of God its only the Children of PROMISE that are counted for that goodly seed....The seed of Jesus, as his Words are his seeds...If you are not bornagain by his SEED THE WORDS OF God ....He neva knew you thus you will not bring forth any fruit unto God which is the H.G. that Child of Promise....Remember in Acts 1:4 Jesus said behold i send the PROMISE OF MY FATHER upon you which was baptism of the H.G. a birth of a baby Christ in them....That Child of Promise...And it was also new Jerusalem and mt Sion the city of that great King...Gbu Robert.....There is a Child in your future.....Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil CHILD YOU WILL IN NO WISE ENTER THERE IN...
  • Chris - in Reply on Romans 11
    Hi Robert. Was there a particular verse in Romans chapter 11 that leads you to believe that being a Jew is a matter of choice? We are indeed "all seeds of Noah", but not all of us are descended from one of Noah's sons, Shem then many others through to Jacob.

    Here are few Scriptures that tell us of this special people, chosen of God, to be His Own: Deuteronomy 7:6; Deuteronomy 14:2; 1 Chronicles 16:13; Psalm 89:3,4; Psalm 105:6, & many more. So Israel, because of their rejection of their Messiah & depending on the Law (to gain righteousness - Romans 10:3,4) have been rejected (cut out of the olive tree). But those amongst them who believe & also from the Gentiles who have turned to Christ, are God's true Israel ( Romans 9:6,7). Maybe, you're thinking of the true Israel that belongs to God.
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Romans 11
    Exodus 12:48,49, Exodus 20:10, Leviticus 16, Leviticus 17,

    Leviticus 18:26, Leviticus 19:33,34,

    John 1:12, Romans 8:14,

    Acts 13:39, Galatians 2:16, Deuteronomy 10:16, Galatians 6:15, Romans 2:25, Romans 4,

    Romans 3:29-30

    Here are just a few, there are many, hopefully these are helpful to your study & decision
  • Robert Scott Catuska on Romans 11
    So reading Romans 11 I was thinking if I wanted to be Jewish couldn't I be one, after all it is a choice right. We are all seeds of Noah and that being true how can one group of people be more Jewish or in Gods favor if we are all from the same seed?
  • Doug - in Reply on Romans 11
    Curious why our sin needs to be washed again and again. Does not His blood and Spirit have power to cleanse us from all unrighteousness? Peter at the last supper said that the Lord should wash everything not just his feet, but Jesus said they that are washed needed not to be washed except their feet. I think this should be done by one another.
  • Alex N - in Reply on Romans 11
    Fred G/M GBU...May i give ya my slant on FAITH...As in Hebrews 11:1 ....Now Faith is the Substance of things Hoped for and the Evidence of things not seen....In the Spritual realm under this new covenant....Faith is a spritual Pregnancy via the seed of Christ the bridegroom ...Being bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the words of God as ,Peter said...But this new birth requires a spritual Pregnancy which comes from hearing hiS VOIC...Faith comes by hearing his Words...There has to be an intimacy.

    .....Even in the natural when a woman is pregnant she has the substance of things HOPED FOR ( the Baby ) which is the evidence of things NOT SEEN...No body can see what she has, not even her husband....But she knows it b/c her whole biological make up is changing and she can feel the baby moving with in her...@ only 6 weeks there is already a heart beat....Thats US after he sows his good seed in our hearts we have heavenly Faith...We know we are spritual Pregnant...We can feel the Spirit moving within US...My lil Children of whom i travail in birth Again till Christ is formed in you Gal 4 :19...As we have borne the image of the earthly we must also bear ( birth ) the image of the heavenly....We have the evidence of things not seen which is the H.G the Child of Promise.

    .....Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....Thats Y he has to know us, thats when his good seed is gona be sown in our hearts and minds....She brought forth a man Child that is gonna rule al nations and her Child was caught up to God and to his throne... Rev. 12 :5....We are the woman and her Child is the result of the sower and his seed...the words of that New covenant....The babes and suckling he mentions ,..Thats y he is saying the Good seed are the CHILDREN OF THE KINGDOM....There is a baby Christ in our future....Thats y he always refers to himself as the SON OF MAN.

    .....Blessed are them that follow me in the REGENERATION....a BABY CHRIST...
  • Fred Scanlan on Romans 11
    If you cannot see a thing, does it mean that it doesn't exist?

    Faith is just that thing!

    It is the means of travel, in the universe and the time of and in His creation.

    As we Travel across the universe at the speed of light, there will be times that those who are outside of Him may be given a glimpse of His Majesty, yet only according too His Grace!

    The depths of the wisdom of God, His love for man, while preserving who He is!

    Sanctification, is the washing away of sin! The sin that easily moves us out of His will for us in ( the way.)

    The sin that needs to be removed again and again!

    We cannot do it ourselves, it must come from above. It must come from Him, we can only receive it, in this thing called faith!

    If you believe the promises of Him, and are covered in Him, then you will see clearly while traveling at the speed of light! His light found in His Son, the Savior of the world!

    If you have not been given glimpse, then you shall be left behind!

    Repent and be Baptized
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Romans 11
    Thanks Ronnette.

    I'm very familiar with the scriptures you have shared, and they must harmonize with Romans 6:1-12 and also Romans 8:7-14. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

    So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

    But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

    And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

    But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

    Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

    For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

    For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

    The scriptures you have shared accompanied with the ones I've shared suggest that Sanctification follows Salvation.

    "IF" we are connected to the vine we WILL bare fruit.

    God bless.
  • Ronnette - in Reply on Romans 11
    My Brother in Christ S Spencer:

    Galatians 2:16

    Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

    I understand the feeling of working to be holy in this world. My Spirit ask me to send this your way.

    Also, you may want to meditate reading Colossians Chapter 2.

    I love all the saints. Grace and peace unto you from our God, and of the Father and of the Lord Jesus Christ.
  • Ronnette - in Reply on Romans 11
    S Spencer:

    2 Timothy 2:15

    Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Romans 7:19

    For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

    Romans 7:20

    Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

    Romans 7:25

    I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

    Romans 15:33

    Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
  • Ronnette - in Reply on Romans 11
    Dear Doug, Grae and Gigi:

    Ephesians 6:20

    For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

    Ephesians Chapter 5

    9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

    10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

    Romans 1:18

    For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    Grace and peace from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Romans 11
    Hi Ronnette.

    You're right, we are saved by grace through faith,

    I think here we are in the area of fruit barring and sanctification. When we are saved we have a new birth. We're baptized in the body of believers, We are now identified with Christ and given the Holyspirit, The old nature still exists, But we have a life giving spirit in us that produces fruit in our lives. When we are joined to Christ we will bare fruit. There are some more fruitful than others but if we're saved we all belongs to Christ. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13.

    This new birth is inward, It's an action generated and comes from a new heart.

    James 4:17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

    God bless.
  • Ronnette - in Reply on Romans 11

    Ephesians 5:9

    (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

    Ephesians 5:10

    Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

    Romans 1:18

    For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    Grace and peace from God the Father in Heaven and the Lord Jesus Christ.
  • Grae - in Reply on Romans 11
    Ronnette hi , did Jesus do good to others when he was on Earth ? Did the disciples ? Did Mary do a good work on Jesus when she poured the ointment on Jesus head ? How did he respond to her good deed ? Have u read Matthew Ch 25 V 31-46 ? If u haven't , I suggest that u do .
  • Ronnette - in Reply on Romans 11
    "Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord." Ephesians 5:10 KJV
  • Doug - in Reply on Romans 11
    Don't be too hard on the "do gooders". Goodness is a fruit of the Spirit that is often overlooked. Eph. 5:9 For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;
  • Ronnette on Romans 11
    Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: KJV 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

    Do you guys believed in vain? Jesus died for us all. He did put Himself like a lamb in the slaughter. He shed His blood for us all sinners once and for all. All we need to do is trust, believe, and have faith in Him. Nothing of anything you human can possibly do to save you from your sins. Not any of your good works. Not any of animal sacrifices can forgive any human sins.

    So any of you "do gooders" out there if you do not understand the wisdom and knowledge of what "not of yourselves lest any men should boast" means, I would highly suggest to pray and fast for the Holy Spirit to come in to your heart.

    Remember you know you are saved when you forget about "yourself". You are a new man with Christ in You. It is no longer what you do. It is what God tells you what to do. How do you know? You will know because the Holy Spirit is in you. If you do not know, it means you test your Spirit. God has given you the most gracious gift you ever received in your entire life on earth. Would you take it or not? He gave you free will. It is the free gift from God. All you need to do is claim it through faith, by believing and trusting on What Jesus did on the cross-shedding His own blood to save you in order to have an everlasting life. And live in the Kingdom of God here on earth.

    So get over yourself. We are nobody. We are all sinners. We need God. You cannot live without God's guidance. We are all servants of God. The good news is God knows what you need. Be saved!
  • D W L - in Reply on Romans 11
    Romans 11:18, 19, 20, 21, 22

    2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
  • D W L - in Reply on Romans 11
    Romans 4:20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 21- And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.

    Romans 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

    18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    Hebrews 11:6 (But without faith it is impossible to please him): for he that cometh to God (must believe) that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

    John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
  • GiGi again - in Reply on Romans 11
    Hello Paul

    Instead of saying we can't have grace without faith, I would say we cannot have faith without grace. Faith is the gift that comes from unmerited grace bestowed upon us who God foreknew are to be saved. We don't produce faith in order to receive grace, faith is produced by being graced by the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit which enables us to believe.
  • Douglas L Herrmann - in Reply on Romans 11
    Paul, thanks so much for quoting verses that get passed over so easily because we live in an entitlement society. Others verses to go along with the ones you quoted. Luke 10:28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." When James says "faith without works is dead" he means dead for salvation. He starts the discourse about faith and works saying can faith alone save him.
  • Bro dan - in Reply on Romans 11
    Brother Paul,

    Amen. The scripture's you present here is clearer than crystal clear water!

    We only need to drink from this ever flowing water.

    John 4:14

    "But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life."

    God Bless.
  • Paul on Romans 11
    But we can't have grace without faith.

    For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: ( Ephesians 2:8)

    For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. ( James 2:26)

    Therefore, to believe the entire Bible and not just parts of the Bible we would need to say we are saved by both grace and works.

    And many Biblical passages confirm this:

    Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. ( James 4:7)

    Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. ( Hebrews 4:11)

    And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; ( Hebrews 5:9)

    and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. ( Revelation 2:23)

    And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: ( Revelation 2:26)

    I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. ( 1 John 2:13)

    To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, ( Revelation 2:7)

    He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. ( Revelation 21:7)
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Romans 11
    Mark 1:1-14, Mark 1:15, Ephesians 6:15, 2 Timothy 2:8, Mark 1:14, Luke 9:6, Galatians 3:8, It's Good news. Redemption by JESUS for reconciliation to GOD ALMIGHTY. John 3:16,
  • Bobby on Romans 11
    what is the gospel message
  • D W L on Romans 11
    Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

    Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

    Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

    Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

    35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

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