Romans Chapter 10 Discussion



 
  • BSP on Romans 10
    Verse 10-we must make known publicly the faith that is within us.
  • Leonard A Conklin Jr. on Romans 10
    My friend's Baptist church teaches that God chooses our eternal destination (Calvinism) and that we do not have any choice in that matter. I have always believed that although God's Holy Spirit draws us to himself, that we have free will and must make a decision for Christ. Which is correct and how do you prove it in a discussion, including scripture verses to back it up?
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Romans 10
    Brother Leonard, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    John 15:16 You have not chosen me, but I HAVE CHOSEN YOU, and ordained you ...

    Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not ONLY TO BELIEVE on him, but also to suffer (in the flesh) for his (name) sake.

    Ephesians 2:10 For we (the pot) are his (the potter's) workmanship, CREATED in Christ JESUS....

    Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (SPIRIT) that WORKETH IN US both TO WILL (his will becomes our will, only truth reveals this; otherwise, we incorrectly believe it is OUR FREE WILL) and TO DO his good pleasure.

    Ephesians 1:11 In whom we also have obtained an INHERITANCE, being predestinated according to the PURPOSE of him who WORKETH ALL THINGS after the council of HIS WILL.

    Psalms 92:4 For thou, LORD, has made me glad through THY WORK: I will triumph in the WORKS of THY HANDS.

    Psalms 92:5 O LORD, how great are THY WORKS! and thy thoughts are very deep.

    Psalms 92:6 A brutish man (beast) knoweth not; neither doth a FOOL understand this.

    We are ONLY the pot, pots are made to HOLD something. We were made to hold GOD (SPIRIT).

    The SPIRIT does ALL THE WORK.

    Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery.... CHRIST IN US (the pot) .....
  • Chris - in Reply on Romans 10
    Hello Leonard. What you've shared & what that Baptist Church has declared, I believe is dependent on whose viewpoint is considered; that of God or of man. That is, both that Baptist Church & Adam's comments are correct.

    If you consider 1 Peter 1:2, "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ", we can clearly see that the Elect (i.e. God's chosen) are in that blessed position because God has selected some according to His Foreknowledge. In other words, all whom God has foreordained to be His elect, will be saved. Now this is in God's department, so to speak, & not ours.

    We cannot concern ourselves with what God knows, as sinful man must be in a position to hear the Gospel, be convicted of sin, & respond. So, the one who does hear & believe, can be assumed to be part of the "elect according to God's Foreknowledge". That is, God knows beforehand who will respond to the call. Those who reject the Gospel are outside of grace & can never be saved. Our "choice in the matter" is still a conscious decision we make, but made in concert with the Holy Spirit's working. Without the Gospel & without the Holy Spirit = no salvation. Many try to come another way; they're imposters.

    In hyper-calvinism, God's election is taken to an extreme; where it even becomes unnecessary to share the Gospel, as God's choosing requires no response from man. Does that Church evangelize? If it does, then it's clear that they expect the sorrowful sinner to repent, believe, & be saved. The sinner's 'choice' is already in God's Plan to save him. We could ask the opposite question: can a sorrowful sinner be rejected by God because he is not foreordained to be saved? John 6:37, "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." There's God's Promise of election & receiving a penitent sinner.
  • Glenn - in Reply on Romans 10
    The elect,.. are not automatically saved ,.. they are the ones , that help make the evil ones Jesus' footstool, an they have a job to do ,.. an are the only ones able to commit the unpardonable sin ,..

    peace
  • Adam - in Reply on Romans 10
    Hello, if we have no free will, what is the purpose of evangelism? If we have no free will what is the purpose of the gospel? If we have no free will, what is the purpose of following Jesus? Did you have freewill to write your question or did something force you to? Did it force you onto this website and are you a prisoner? When you brush your teeth is a force making you do that?

    That's an interesting concept that we have no freewill, but it just seems to fall apart quickly with pure logic. Adam and Eve were given an choice and disobeyed God and received a punishment. Today we are given choices of whether to do good or evil and then are judged after this life according to what we have done. Romans 2:6. If there was no free will, why would anyone be judged?

    I believe a movement in our society is against Christianity and they like to claim that we're only clumps of cells and that morality is only relative and that we have no choice when we do wrong. It just seems like a lazy way to rationalize committing sin and defying God. The word says to fear God who can send you to hell. Matthew 10:28. Obviously, if there was zero free will or choice then we wouldn't be continually warned to obey, avoid sin, follow Jesus. No freewill would mean everything is a charade and is meaningless. Obviously that idea is a lie and we do have freewill. I choose to respond vs not respond to this question out of my own freewill and hope to help others and help spread truth to replace lies. God bless...

    This page might have more related verses.

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  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Romans 10
    Brother adam, may christ in is grace us with his wisdom and his understanding.

    romans 9:18 therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

    romans 9:19 thou wilt say unto me, why doth he yet find fault (say we sin)? for who hath resisted his will?

    no one has resisted his will; therefore, no one has free will.

    philippians 2:13 for it is god (spirit) that worketh in you both to will (his will not your free will) and to do his good pleasure.

    ephesians 1:11 in whom we also have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him, who worketh all things after the council of his will.

    the father is at present calling out; only, the chosen (by his will; those to be priest and judges in the kingdom of god).

    obadiah 1:21 and saviours (the elect) shall come upon mount zion to judge the mount of esau (at the resurrection of the dead), and the the kingdom shall be the lord's.

    romans 8:19 for the earnest expectation of creation waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of god (the seed of christ, the elect, the chosen, the judges, the saviours).

    romans 8:21 for the creature (creation) itself also shall be delivered (through judgement) from the bondage of corruption (flesh) into the liberty of the sons of god.

    isaiah 26:9 ......for when thy judgements (at the resurrection of the dead) are in the earth the world will learn righteousness.

    proverbs 16:6 by mercy and truth iniquity is purged ......

    romans 11:31 even so have these (the vessels of dishonour that god hardened) also not believed, that through your mercy (at the judgement of the dead) they also obtain mercy.

    god has a plan for all creation, god's will, will be done.
  • Paul Laurent on Romans 10
    I could not live one moment without My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ .He has been my Rock thru cancer three times.Open heart bypas both knees replaced twice, A stroke. and burnt nerves in back A bone fussed in neck.What a testermoney..
  • Wenmar on Romans 10:20
    I did not seek and yet I was found!! Merciful God I praise you!!!!
  • Daniel snyder on Romans 10
    I love reading the Bible on this web site it is so clear and easy pray for our church and my family god bless
  • Kristopher Philip Kupka on Romans 10
    Jesus is our refuge.
  • Reginald Davis on Romans 10
    I put God in my life 68 years ago when I stop doing drugs and drinking. I told him then that this life he has given me is his. My body and my soul is his alone. I love him even if Iam sinner in this flesh please forgive give me olord. He is good and faithful all the time. I stayed prayed up all the time.
  • Tom on Romans 10:13
    Romans 72 and first Corinthians 739 state that a couple are married till death parts that divorce is only during the engagement. Like Mary and Joseph
  • Sue Withrow on Romans 10
    People have a lot of good thoughts about the word FAITH! and that is very confusing.

    I have come to the conclusion that if we would look at the word "Faith" in this light, it

    would sum the whole matter.

    "Forget ALL Impossibilites" "Trust Him"
  • Sunday Alaka Ogechi on Romans 10:10
    This verse summarizes the ideas in the previous verse in general terms. Paul frequently summarized in Romans , and often these summaries refer to the results of the action in view, as here (cf. Romans 4:25; Romans 5:21; Romans 6:23; Romans 7:25).Belief in Jesus Christ in one"s heart results in acceptance by God (i.e, imputed righteousness, justification, and positional sanctification). Testimony to one"s belief in Jesus Christ normally follows and normally is verbal. Paul was describing the normal consequence of belief. Witmer wrote that the confession is to God. [Note: Witmer, p481.] One"s confession that Jesus is Lord would be to God initially (i.e, expressing trust in Christ to the Father), but most interpreters have believed that the confession in view goes beyond God and includes other people as well. This seems to be a reasonable conclusion since the confession is to be made with the mouth. In what sense does this confession result in salvation. Paul obviously did not mean that confession of Jesus Christ secures acceptance with God since he just said belief in the heart does that ( Romans 10:9; cf. ch4). Salvation is a broad term that includes many kinds of deliverance, as we have seen. What aspect of salvation does taking a public stand for Christ secure For one thing it saves the person making the confession from the potential discipline of God. [Note: See Dillow, pp122-24.] It also saves him or her from the loss of reward that those who are unwilling to identify themselves with Him will enjoy (cf. Matthew 10:32-33; 2 Timothy 2:12). Furthermore, it often results in the eternal salvation of other people who hear the confession of faith and then believe themselves.
  • Samwel on Romans 10
    Faith comes by hearing by the word.... Thus revelation.. It being revealed to you.remembered unless given you cannot receive. Hearing Jesus,being spoken by the holy ghost.the word(Thus Jesus) became flesh and dwelt among us.and now in us and made manifest by the holy spirit...
  • Lillian Wangui Macharia on Romans 10
    Do we have christian names of the bible and their meaning
  • Glenda Sewer on Romans 10:14
    Amen Amen
  • Ronald Hunte on Romans 10:9
    What does it mean faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God.
  • Vincent - in Reply on Romans 10
    With all do respect, never is there a need to learn the Greek or Hebrew in order to understand the Bible. The King James Bible IS "the literal translation." Anybody who tries to change the precious words of God is deceived into making themselves the final authority as opposed to the Bible/God the final authority.

    Answer:

    How does one come to have faith in Christ? By hearing. What must one hear in order to have faith in Christ? The word of God. When one hears the Gospel of Christ and believes it, they have faith.

    We have the Bible, they had writings, prophets, and the apostles went out to preach as well.

    V 17 is what youre asking about. The second half of this chapter is filled with rhetorical questions that Paul ends up answering. He is making a case against Israel not having faith and why the gospel has been committed to the Gentiles.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Romans 10
    Vincent,

    You are correct. A person does not have to learn Greek and Hebrew to understand the English bible, and I would never tell anyone that. I believe it is a great tool for studying. It has helped me a lot. But that is just for me personally. I would never tell you or anyone else that they need to learn Greek. I think it would be great if we all knew it, but again, that's an individual's choice. If Greek offends you, I would for sure stay away from it.

    I was simply trying to give an accurate representation of where faith comes from. If there is anything in my answer to the original question that you see in error, please let me know. If I may ask, you say that the King James Bible is "the literal translation." How do you know that? Like most English Bibles, it is a translation from Greek. So how do you know it is "the literal translation" without just taking someone's word for it?

    I have absolutely nothing negative to say about the King James Bible. It is the only English bible I fully trust, and it is the only one I use in my study. I believe it to be the most accurate translation. But it is a translation. And as far as Greek goes, I don't have the time to sit down with the Textus Receptus and the King James Bible and do a side by side, word for word check to see if it is a "literal translation." So just like you, I'm stuck with just taking someone's word for it that the translators made no errors.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Romans 10:9
    The terms "by," used twice in the Greek text for this Verse is actually the preposition "out of," as a source.

    We know from scripture that faith is a fruit of God's Spirit. It is not of man. Faith is produced by God's Spirit. We cannot produce biblical faith ourselves. We have human faith, but that is different than the faith that the bible speaks of. Faith is a word that describes the presence and activity of God's Spirit in a believer's life. The word faith itself literally means persuasion.

    The literal translation from the Greek text for Romans 10:17 should read "So then faith comes from "out of" hearing, and hearing from the word of God."

    Faith comes to us from out of hearing God's word. His Spirit ministers to us and persuades us and gives us the faith to do what God wants us to do out of the hearing of His word.
  • Confused on Romans 10
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    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Now, a lot of people will tell you that you will have to do this or that to be saved. They want to add other things. These other things that they say, some we need to do but NOT to be saved. We do them because God said to do them. trust and obey.
  • Matthew on Romans 10
    Who is Esaias?
  • Confused - in Reply on Romans 10
    John the Baptist came in the spirit of Esaias.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Romans 10
    Esaias is the NT Greek rendering of the prophet Isaiah. It is the most quoted old testament book in the new testament I believe.
    Compare Isaiah 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
    with
    Matthew 3:3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight
  • Matthew - in Reply on Romans 10
    Thank you Bob
  • Alex on Romans 10
    When God showed Peter that sheet with all the UNclean animals that was the Church that was made clean by the BLOOD of Christ Jesus not water baptism that Peter was commanding. By commanding water baptism Peter was making the blood of no effect. Thats y Paul wd not preach water baptism he knew it wd make the blood cross of no effect. In Gods eyes its like saying th blood is insufficient.Ya need h20
  • William workeman - in Reply on Romans 10
    Why did Peter make these comments (Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days) after these people where filled with the Holy Ghost? I thought the bible was written by people inspired by God.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Romans 10
    Peter explains this verse and did not say God showed him to eat unclean food, God told him that those who did eat unclean food were able to be saved.
    Acts Chapter 10

    26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.

    27 And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.

    28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
    but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. for eating unclean foods


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