It wasn't until I read this verse one evening at work after seeking the man Jesus for more than a year that I finally understood. It happened (my belief) a year after being told I should learn to know Him. I had read this verse just before break and went to our break room and told everyone who was there the words which changed my life. It was then, after everyone laughed, that I realized I had come to the place of salvation and the Word spoke to my heart. I was 27 years young. I'm now 66 years young, a child of the King! I still get those goose bumps.
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Ithink you are forgetting about the "laying on of hands"needed for authority to preach? Deut 34:9, "And Joshua, the son of Nun was full of the Spirit of Wisdom; for Moses had LAID HIS HANDS UPON HIM: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and he did as the Lord commanded Moses." Acts 6:6, "These they set before the apostles, and after they had prayed they LAID THEIR HANDS UPON THEM". Acts 9:17, "...and LAYING HIS HANDS UPON HIM, he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord has sent me" Acts 8:17, "Then they LAID THEIR HANDS ON THEM and they received the Holy Spirit." Acts 13:3, "Then having fasted and prayed and LAID THEIR HANDS UPON THEM, they let them go." 2Tim 1:6, "For this reason I admonish thee to stir up the grace of GOD which is in thee, BY THE LAYING ON OF MY HANDS."
1Ti,m 4:14 "Do not neglect the grace that is in thee, granted to thee by reason of prophecy with the LAYING ON OF HANDS of the presbyterate." [PRIESTS] Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms: Let their habitation become desolate, and let there be none to dwell therein. And his bishopric let another take.
This same rite was practiced in the early Church and continues to this day, The Bishop, by the 'LAYING ON OF HANDS', conveys a succession of Priests and Bishops with a commission, giving them the authority to perpetuate the Church which Jesus Christ founded. Apostalic Succession & only one Church can lay claim to it. The Catholic Church
_Rosalina_Sayson_Ko_Tapay_ on Romans 10 - 10 years ago
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These are those who were "SENT" to preach the gospel, "How beautiful are the feet of "THEM" that PREACH the GOSPEL of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!" ( Romans 10:15). Jesus Christ was SENT because HE preached the gospel ( Mark 1:15). Apostles and Disciples were SENT because they were ordained by our Lord Jesus Christ to preach the gospel to "EVERY CREATURE" ( Mark 16:15). Before I Lord Jesus Christ were taken up to heaven HE ordained "ALL NATIONS" to OBSERVE ALL THINGS HE COMMANDED ( Matthew 28:19-20). THEREFORE, The "SPIRIT OF THE LORD" SENT JESUS CHRIST TO PREACH THE GOSPEL ( Luke 4:18) and then JESUS CHRIST SENT APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES, AND ALL NATIONS TO PREACH THE GOSPEL. SO, If you heard the gospel from WHOEVER that BAPTIZED you in the NAME of the FATHER, AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST, then you MUST OBSERVE ALL THINGS whatsoever Jesus commanded, and that INCLUDES preaching the gospel to EVERY CREATURE in ALL NATIONS. Then, you are SENT.
Romans 10:15.....And how can people preach UNLESS THEY ARE SENT? [ who were sent and by whom and with what authority?] "SENT", as used in the Greek language of which the book of Romans was written, is apostello. [apostle] John 20:21-23.....Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has SENT me, so I SEND you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained."
[apostalic succession].... Romans 10:15.....And how can people preach UNLESS THEY ARE SENT? how do Non-Catholic preachers preach if they are not in the line of succession going all the way back to the Apostles???
Why would Jesus go through the trouble of giving the apostles this authority if He preferred the practice of personal confession direct to Himself?
To Ock:...that is a very BRILLIANT question... The AUTHORITY to SENT someone to PREACH the GOSPEL is in this wise:...from "GOD" who sent Jesus Christ ( John 17:8) with the "Spirit of the Lord" who anointed him to PREACH the GOSPEL to the poor( Luke 4:18-21)...THEN...from "our Lord Jesus Christ" who sent his disciples to PREACH the GOSPEL to "every creature" ( Mark 16:15)...THEN...from "apostles" who were commanded by our Lord Jesus Christ to teach "all nations" to observe ALL THINGS whatsoever he (Jesus) have commanded them (apostles) ( Matthew 28:19-20)...THEN...if YOU "heard the PREACHING of the GOSPEL" from "ANY CREATURE in ANY NATION" and "you believed it" and "you were baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost"...THEN...YOU are also being SENT to PREACH the GOSPEL...and has the authority to SENT those "who believed and were baptized" to PREACH the GOSPEL to every creature in all nations...and that is Romans 10:15 all about...
Romans 10:15.....And how can people preach UNLESS THEY ARE SENT? [ who were sent and by whom and with what authority?] "SENT", as used in the Greek language of which the book of Romans was written, is apostello. [apostle] "Peace be with you. As the Father has SENT me, even so I SEND you."That authority was delegated to the Apostles ALONE by Jesus Christ. Someone please show where where the Bible gives authority to anyone other that Apostles or their designee 9VIA THE LAYING ON OF HANDS) TO PREACH?
confessing that Jesus is lord in this dispensation entails more than just saying it with your mouth. The confession here must be born out of a strong belief from the heart.
Here is a verse which teaches that twofold evidence of salvation. First, when God saves a person, they believe in their hearts, which is really in their spirit essence. They receive their resurrected souls at the moment of salvation. ( Ezek 36:26 KJV) A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. Secondly, a person who truly believes in their heart, will be unable to keep it to themselves and will become a verbal witness and tell others about the Lord. Jeremiah wanted to stop bringing the word of God to Judah but he could not because it was as a fire in his heart. ( Jer 20:9 KJV) Then I said, I will not make mention of him, nor speak any more in his name. But his word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I was weary with forbearing, and I could not stay. The mouth confesses what the regenerated heart has believed.
(This is my response to Ciscokid's comment dated 8/14/2013 at 12:12am on Romans Chapter 10):
Whatever kind of letter it was or to whoever it was addressed that question has no substance in knowing the process of salvation. It was clearly stated in Romans 10:13 that, "WHOEVER shall CALL upon the NAME of the Lord shall be SAVED".. While Romans 10:14-17 stated the process of salvation backward before you can call the name of the Lord and be saved and that is to "believe what you've heard from a preacher who was sent to preach the gospel of peace by hearing the word of God so that faith shall come to you. (Simple).
This is my respond to GLENN's Romans Chapter 10 comment about verse 10 on 9/09/2013, 9:26am: The significance of confessing audibly (with one's mouth) unto salvation is that, your faith that is in your heart should be revealed by confessing with your mouth the Lord Jesus. Prayers should be in the way as it's written in Matthew 6:5-6.
What is the signifigance of confessing audibly (with one's mouth) unto salvation as opposed to saying it in one's head? Might this imply that prayers should also be audible in order to be efficacious?
Don't stop at that one verse. The explanation is given in the next verse... Romans 10:10...For with the heart manbelieveth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. And then 10:13...for whosoever shall upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Bobby's said about Romans Chapter 10 comment on 7/13/2013, 8:51pm..." Romans 10 is powerful! Especially Romans 10:9@10. It actually instructs a sinner how to be saved."
This is my answer to Bobby's comment.
Bobby--if you will notice--Romans is a letter to the church at Rome--these folks were ALREADY saved. Paul was addressing SAVED folks. Bobby--why not go BACK in the scriptures where the church was started--where folks ACTUALLY received INSTRUCTIONS how to be saved. The book of Acts is scripturally where the New Testament church started. NOW compare the instructions Peter gave those men in Acts 2 to those so called "instructions" in Romans 10:9-10.
IF Romans is actually "INSTRUCTIONS" that lead to salvation--then why is there no mention IN ROMANS of REPENTANCE, baptism in Jesus name, and receiving the Holy Ghost. These instructions were in Acts 2. You mentions Eph 2:8-10--also. Again, WHY are these "instructions" TO OBTAIN salvation SOOOoooo much different from one another???
The mainstream Christian world is TOTALLY AFRAID of Acts 2:38???--BECAUSE it ****s holes in the false doctrine of "believe in your heart and confess with your mouth". Romans 10 and Eph 2---are EPISTLES--HELLO EPISTLES --LETTERS to CHURCHS OF Rome and Ephesians ----folks who were ALREADY SAVED. These ARE not INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO BE SAVED>
It's amazing that so many "Christian" believers have this salvation thing all wrong. THEY say, all you have to do is a speak words and you'll be saved. That is most EGOTISCIAL, especially when the scriptures DO NOT concur with that type of thinking.
Romans 10 is powerful! Especially Romans 10:9@10. It actually instructs a sinner how to be saved. Why not use this scripture along with Ephesians 2: 8-10. The Word is powerful. Please explain to me why these scriptures should not be used when leading one into salvation.
It's unwise to point sinners to Romans 10:9-10--the Epistles are letters to saved Saints. I realize this has been done for many years, never the less, it makes no sense. Why would anyone assume that an Epistle, a letter to the (CHURCH) Saints at Rome, be considered instructions on how to be saved?
Are you saved NOW in the present tense or at the 2nd Coming of Christ Jesus? And if you are saved NOW in the present tense, can you lose your salvation?
The passage says: that if you confess The Lord Jesus with your mouth thou shall be saved. He is not telling you to say that he is Lord, because guess what, He is LORD of Lords and King Of Kings weather you say it or not. But if you say it with your mouth that Jesus is your Savior thou shall be saved. The NIV readers are the ones that put it that way. Peace to all.
I believe that there is a lot of Christians that read the word but they truly don�t have a knowledge of who God is or what he is saying. So because they now have what I believe is a taste of salvation or God to say. They believe they can begin to fix everyone else. This chapter speaks of having zeal. Yes having a desire to do the things of God, but having no knowledge on how to do them. So in turn you the person can become deadly to another individual. Your seal should be first to find out what God is saying for you, and get that down which for most of us. That�s enough to do for years before we just start giving the counsel of God�s word to others. We don�t realize sometimes because we are feeling so great about being saved that what works at the time for us, might not be what the next individual needs to hear. Slow down and let God. Stick to the basics, until you have obtained some seasoning on how and where and at what time to use his word.
The Word of God does not need to be changed or altered. It says it all and is simple to believe. The Holy Spirit is drawing everyone to Jesus Christ and He is waiting for anyone to call upon Him for forgiveness of sin and He will hear their prayer and forgive them of all their sins.
Ithink you are forgetting about the "laying on of hands"needed for authority to preach?
Deut 34:9, "And Joshua, the son of Nun was full of the Spirit of Wisdom; for Moses had LAID HIS HANDS UPON HIM: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and he did as the Lord commanded Moses."
Acts 6:6, "These they set before the apostles, and after they had prayed they LAID THEIR HANDS UPON THEM".
Acts 9:17, "...and LAYING HIS HANDS UPON HIM, he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord has sent me"
Acts 8:17, "Then they LAID THEIR HANDS ON THEM and they received the Holy Spirit."
Acts 13:3, "Then having fasted and prayed and LAID THEIR HANDS UPON THEM, they let them go."
2Tim 1:6, "For this reason I admonish thee to stir up the grace of GOD which is in thee, BY THE LAYING ON OF MY HANDS."
1Ti,m 4:14 "Do not neglect the grace that is in thee, granted to thee by reason of prophecy with the LAYING ON OF HANDS of the presbyterate." [PRIESTS]
Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms: Let their habitation become desolate, and let there be none to dwell therein. And his bishopric let another take.
This same rite was practiced in the early Church and continues to this day, The Bishop, by the 'LAYING ON OF HANDS', conveys a succession of Priests and Bishops with a commission, giving them the authority to perpetuate the Church which Jesus Christ founded. Apostalic Succession & only one Church can lay claim to it. The Catholic Church
These are those who were "SENT" to preach the gospel, "How beautiful are the feet of "THEM" that PREACH the GOSPEL of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!" ( Romans 10:15). Jesus Christ was SENT because HE preached the gospel ( Mark 1:15). Apostles and Disciples were SENT because they were ordained by our Lord Jesus Christ to preach the gospel to "EVERY CREATURE" ( Mark 16:15). Before I Lord Jesus Christ were taken up to heaven HE ordained "ALL NATIONS" to OBSERVE ALL THINGS HE COMMANDED ( Matthew 28:19-20). THEREFORE, The "SPIRIT OF THE LORD" SENT JESUS CHRIST TO PREACH THE GOSPEL ( Luke 4:18) and then JESUS CHRIST SENT APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES, AND ALL NATIONS TO PREACH THE GOSPEL. SO, If you heard the gospel from WHOEVER that BAPTIZED you in the NAME of the FATHER, AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST, then you MUST OBSERVE ALL THINGS whatsoever Jesus commanded, and that INCLUDES preaching the gospel to EVERY CREATURE in ALL NATIONS. Then, you are SENT.
John 20:21-23.....Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has SENT me, so I SEND you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained."
[apostalic succession].... Romans 10:15.....And how can people preach UNLESS THEY ARE SENT? how do Non-Catholic preachers preach if they are not in the line of succession going all the way back to the Apostles???
Why would Jesus go through the trouble of giving the apostles this authority if He preferred the practice of personal confession direct to Himself?
Whatever kind of letter it was or to whoever it was addressed that question has no substance in knowing the process of salvation. It was clearly stated in Romans 10:13 that, "WHOEVER shall CALL upon the NAME of the Lord shall be SAVED".. While Romans 10:14-17 stated the process of salvation backward before you can call the name of the Lord and be saved and that is to "believe what you've heard from a preacher who was sent to preach the gospel of peace by hearing the word of God so that faith shall come to you. (Simple).
This is my answer to Bobby's comment.
Bobby--if you will notice--Romans is a letter to the church at Rome--these folks were ALREADY saved. Paul was addressing SAVED folks. Bobby--why not go BACK in the scriptures where the church was started--where folks ACTUALLY received INSTRUCTIONS how to be saved. The book of Acts is scripturally where the New Testament church started. NOW compare the instructions Peter gave those men in Acts 2 to those so called "instructions" in Romans 10:9-10.
IF Romans is actually "INSTRUCTIONS" that lead to salvation--then why is there no mention IN ROMANS of REPENTANCE, baptism in Jesus name, and receiving the Holy Ghost. These instructions were in Acts 2. You mentions Eph 2:8-10--also. Again, WHY are these "instructions" TO OBTAIN salvation SOOOoooo much different from one another???
The mainstream Christian world is TOTALLY AFRAID of Acts 2:38???--BECAUSE it ****s holes in the false doctrine of "believe in your heart and confess with your mouth".
Romans 10 and Eph 2---are EPISTLES--HELLO EPISTLES --LETTERS to CHURCHS OF Rome and Ephesians ----folks who were ALREADY SAVED. These ARE not INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO BE SAVED>