Romans 8:17

“And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.”

King James Version (KJV)

Other Translations

And if children, then heires, heires of God, and ioynt heires with Christ: if so be that we suffer with him, that wee may be also glorified together.
- King James Version (1611) - View 1611 Bible Scan

and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with {Him} so that we may also be glorified with {Him.}
- New American Standard Version (1995)

and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with `him', that we may be also glorified with `him'.
- American Standard Version (1901)

And if we are children, we have a right to a part in the heritage; a part in the things of God, together with Christ; so that if we have a part in his pain, we will in the same way have a part in his glory.
- Basic English Bible

And if children, heirs also: heirs of God, and Christ's joint heirs; if indeed we suffer with [him], that we may also be glorified with [him].
- Darby Bible

And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if we suffer with him, that we may be glorified together.
- Webster's Bible

and if children, then heirs too--heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ; if indeed we are sharers in Christ's sufferings, in order that we may also be sharers in His glory.
- Weymouth Bible

and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint heirs with Christ; if indeed we suffer with him, that we may also be glorified with him.
- World English Bible

if sones, and eiris, `and eiris of God, and eiris togidere with Crist; if netheles we suffren togidere, that also we ben glorified togidere.
- Wycliffe Bible

and if children, also heirs, heirs, indeed, of God, and heirs together of Christ -- if, indeed, we suffer together, that we may also be glorified together.
- Youngs Literal Bible

Bible commentary

Wesley's Notes for Romans 8:17


8:17 Joint heirs - That we may know it is a great inheritance which God will give us for he hath given a great one to his Son. If we suffer with him - Willingly and cheerfully, for righteousness' sake. This is a new proposition, referring to what follows.


People's Bible Notes for Romans 8:17


Ro 8:17 If children, then heirs. Observe the chain of argument: (1) We are the sons of God (Ro 8:14). (2) This is shown by our having received the Spirit of adoption (Ro 8:15). (3) Both God's Spirit and our own spirit witness together that we are children of God (Ro 8:16). (4) But children are heirs; hence we are heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ. Under the Jewish law the older brother had a double portion, but Christ admits all to a joint share of the great inheritance. If . . . we suffer with [him]. In the figure, we suffer with him when we are "baptized into his death" (Ro 6:3). We are "crucified with him" (Ro 6:6); become "dead to sin" (Ro 6:2); "are buried with him" (Ro 6:4); "are planted together in the likeness of his death" (Ro 6:5). Hence, in these respects we have the "fellowship of his sufferings" (Php 3:10). But we must be ready, for his sake, to bear the cross through life (Mt 16:24 Mr 8:34 10:21 Lu 9:23). If we do all these things, we shall be "glorified together" with him also.

Discussion for Romans 8

  • Steve morrow
    John 15:9 as the father hath loved me so have I loved you --- continue ye in my love --15:10--if you keep my commandments you shall abide in my love even as I have kept my fathers commandments and abide in his love 1 JOHN 5:3 for this is the love of GOD that we keep his commandments and his commandments are not grievous 1 CORINTHIANS 16:22 if any man love not the LORD JESUS CHRIST let him be anathema maranatha accursed -- come LORD
  • Emmanuel
    Good, myGod bless you for doing the work of the lord
  • Jeff Berry
    B) While there are verses within this chapter that we all have memorized
  • A disciple
    Steve and Jeff (cont.); What can be the most frustrating for those who really want to help and guide the other back to soundness and health in the LORD; is that they tend to build a hard shell like a turtle and hide from every one who wants to talk sensibly to them. Then also you have others scrutinizing YOUR motives and words, instead of rather supporting the rescue efforts of the erring brother.
  • A disciple
    Steve; You are right with your concerns! I think it is a fairly common trick of the devil, that apparently works very well, to allure a young man by flattering him, when he might be just beginning to understand some truth; by telling him that his superior spirituality and brain capacity has found a methodology for making all Scripture mean only what they "think" they know; making them unteachable.
  • A disciple
    Jeff; I'm afraid that the hardest ones to reason with are those who have an idea in which they think EVERY Scripture is a coded message locked up to everyone else but them, for they have the key. Unknown to these is the fact obvious to the rest of us, is that they have isolated themselves from all of God's counsel and the whole of His Doctrine. They think that everything means what only they know!

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