Romans
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Romans 3:4
“God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.”
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Romans 3:4 Context
1What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? 2Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. 3For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? 4God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. 5But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man) 6God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world? 7For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
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Other Translations
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but euery man a lier, as it is written, That thou mightest be iustified in thy sayings, and mightest ouercome when thou art iudged.
- King James Version (1611) - View 1611 Bible Scan
May it never be! Rather, let God be found true, though every man {be found} a liar, as it is written, "THAT YOU MAY BE JUSTIFIED IN YOUR WORDS, AND PREVAIL WHEN YOU ARE JUDGED."
- New American Standard Version (1995)
God forbid: yea, let God be found true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy words, And mightest prevail when thou comest into judgment.
- American Standard Version (1901)
In no way: but let God be true, though every man is seen to be untrue; as it is said in the Writings, That your words may be seen to be true, and you may be seen to be right when you are judged.
- Basic English Bible
Far be the thought: but let God be true, and every man false; according as it is written, So that thou shouldest be justified in thy words, and shouldest overcome when thou art in judgment.
- Darby Bible
By no means: verily let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mayest be justified in thy sayings, and mayest overcome when thou art judged.
- Webster's Bible
No, indeed; let us hold God to be true, though every man should prove to be false. As it stands written, "That Thou mayest be shown to be just in the sentence Thou pronouncest, and gain Thy cause when Thou contendest."
- Weymouth Bible
May it never be! Yes, let God be found true, but every man a liar. As it is written, "That you might be justified in your words, and might prevail when you come into judgment."
- World English Bible
God forbede. For God is sothefast, but ech man a liere; as it is writun, That thou be iustified in thi wordis, and ouercome, whanne thou art demed.
- Wycliffe Bible
let it not be! and let God become true, and every man false, according as it hath been written, `That Thou mayest be declared righteous in Thy words, and mayest overcome in Thy being judged.'
- Youngs Literal Bible
- King James Version (1611) - View 1611 Bible Scan
May it never be! Rather, let God be found true, though every man {be found} a liar, as it is written, "THAT YOU MAY BE JUSTIFIED IN YOUR WORDS, AND PREVAIL WHEN YOU ARE JUDGED."
- New American Standard Version (1995)
God forbid: yea, let God be found true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy words, And mightest prevail when thou comest into judgment.
- American Standard Version (1901)
In no way: but let God be true, though every man is seen to be untrue; as it is said in the Writings, That your words may be seen to be true, and you may be seen to be right when you are judged.
- Basic English Bible
Far be the thought: but let God be true, and every man false; according as it is written, So that thou shouldest be justified in thy words, and shouldest overcome when thou art in judgment.
- Darby Bible
By no means: verily let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mayest be justified in thy sayings, and mayest overcome when thou art judged.
- Webster's Bible
No, indeed; let us hold God to be true, though every man should prove to be false. As it stands written, "That Thou mayest be shown to be just in the sentence Thou pronouncest, and gain Thy cause when Thou contendest."
- Weymouth Bible
May it never be! Yes, let God be found true, but every man a liar. As it is written, "That you might be justified in your words, and might prevail when you come into judgment."
- World English Bible
God forbede. For God is sothefast, but ech man a liere; as it is writun, That thou be iustified in thi wordis, and ouercome, whanne thou art demed.
- Wycliffe Bible
let it not be! and let God become true, and every man false, according as it hath been written, `That Thou mayest be declared righteous in Thy words, and mayest overcome in Thy being judged.'
- Youngs Literal Bible
Bible commentary
Wesley's Notes for Romans 3:4
3:4 #Psalm 2:4|.
People's Bible Notes for Romans 3:4
Ro 3:4 God forbid. The Greek means, literally, "Not so". It does not follow that God is unfaithful, because he rejects unbelieving Israel, for his covenant with Israel and his promise to Abraham were conditional. Let God be true, but every man a liar. That is, Let us believe all men to have broken their word, rather than God his. As it is written. See Ps 51:4. One of the penitential psalms, in which David mourns over his own sins. That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings. God's sayings, his threatenings, are justified by his judgments. They were in the case of David. They were also in the rejection of the Jewish nation, in spite of the promise, when it had rejected the Holy One of Israel.
Discussion for Romans 3
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1 month AgoIrene123Bruce - Of course I knew that, and so does Mike Wms. I agree, it could have been stated better - now that you made me look at it from a different angle. But, the 'main' point of the statement is not the redeeming, but the ecumenical 'reforming' of the world. That's what Ch. Sheldon wanted to do. He just didn't understand 'salvation'.Flag
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1 month AgoBruceIrene: Christ is The only One who Redeems. Without His Blood there's no Salvation. Verse 24 says: Redemption is in Christ Jesus. The Mission of True Believers is to Tell Others The Way of Salvation. We are The The Only Light in this World of DarknessFlag
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1 month AgoIrene123Rom. 3:24 - "Our mission is to redeem humanity, not to reform society" -- Mike WilliamsFlag
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1 month AgoLu2677Bruce,I believe the verses you gave."fearful","spirit of fear"could be referring to worldly things.I will hold fast to:Luke 12:4"Jesus said,And I say to you my friends, be not afraid of them that kill the body,and after that have no more that they can do." 5."But I will forwarn you whom ye shall fear:Fear him, whom after hath killed hath power to cast into hell.Yea,I say unto you fear himFlag
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1 month AgoBruceLu2677: For God hath not given us The Spirit of "Fear";but of power,and of love and of a sound mind. 2Timothy1:7 / But the "Fearful",and unbelieving---- and idolaters and all liars,shall have their part in The Lake which burneth with Fire and Brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 21:8 / Fear says one needs a Savior! / Let us---come boldly unto The Throne of Grace---. Hebrews 4:16Flag
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1 month AgoDukeIn this chapter, Paul posits that faith in God through Jesus Christ obviates the law. But this concept muddies the waters in that there is no concretion to the concept of faith. How is faith measured. It is self declared mostly by born again who feel enpowered now to ban the right of woman to chose what happens in their own bodies and who can marry who. Hypocrites! First cast out the beamFlag