Revelation Chapter 6 Discussion



 
  • Tunney on Revelation 6 - 7 months ago
    May we be faithful to worship the LORD GOD in prayer, and testimony before the lost world. As saints our spiritual destiny is settled in the blood of the LORD JESUS CHRIST.

    We must go forth and make disciples and reach those who need to be saved. Family, friends, any and all - GOD will bless our efforts. GOD to shine and bless our efforts.

    Amen! Praying for all who are this forum. August 27, 2023
  • Mel8 - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    That was very helpful thanks .
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Renee Olson:

    Revelation 6:6 ...and see thou hurt not the oil and wine.

    The OLD is a SHADOW of the NEW.

    Numbers 18:12 All the best of the oil, and all the best of the wine, and the wheat, the FIRSTFRUITS of them which they shall offer to the LORD, them have I given thee.

    Numbers 18:13 And WHOSOEVER is FIRST RIPE in the land, which they shall bring in to the LORD, SHALL BE THINE; everyone that is clean in THINE HOUSE shall eat of it.

    Romans 8:23 Not only they, but WE OURSELVES, which have the FIRSTFRUITS of the Spirit ....

    Revelation 14:4 ...being the FIRSTFRUITS unto God and the Lamb.

    1 Corinthians 15:23 .....Christ the FIRSTFRUITS ......

    Notice Christ the firstfruits is PLURAL.

    Galatians 4:19 .....till Christ be FORMED IN YOU ....

    Revelation 6:6 ....and see thou not hurt the oil and the wine (the firstfruits).

    God Bless YOU!
  • Renee Olson on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    What do the oil & wine of vs 6 represent?
  • Renee Olson on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    What do the oil & wine of vs 6 represent?
  • Anthony William - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Hello GiGi

    Peter also talks about this event in his second letter. ( 2nd Peter 3:10-12)

    10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

    11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

    12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

    13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."

    When Christ returns, the heavens and the earth will be destroyed after which God will create a new heavens and new earth suited for habitation by Christ and his glorified saints.

    This is our hope for the future.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Anthony, well spoken.

    Jesus' words in Matthew and in Luke speak of Him returning at the end of the tribulation and then the wrath of God is poured out. Jesus says the tribulation will be cut short or else no one would survive, but it is cut short for the sake of the elect (who are still on the earth). When the wrath of God is poured out the heavens will be shaken causing interstellar disasters in space and the earth will be laid waste. But this happens so that God can re-create a new heaven and a new earth that is free from any corruption.
  • Anthony William - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Hello Giannis

    a. I do not believe in a pre or mid tribulation rapture because Christ makes it clear in Mathew 24 that he will return immediately after the great tribulation.

    b. God's day of wrath does not occur during the great tribulation. The great tribulation will be a time of testing for God's people as they are persecuted for the name of Jesus Christ. This will be worse than ever before because the man of sin will have been revealed. The abomination of desolation will be standing in the holy place. Jesus said that there will be huge demonic activity at this time.

    The unbelievers will be eating and drinking, marrying, and working so they are not suffering the wrath of God at this time. In fact, they are not prepared for the wrath which is to come.

    The bible does not describe the great tribulation as God's wrath.

    c. During the great tribulation will experience testing worse than ever before

    d. "So there is no way God orders His angels to destroy, that is to "kill" His children together with the wicked world. Noway at all. My opinion. "

    Gianna, I agree with you that is why the great tribulation is separate to the day of wrath.

    Just like Lot was removed from Sodom by the angels on the day of destruction when God poured out his wrath on that city, so it will be that Christ will send his angels to remove his saints from earth on the day of His wrath, before pouring out his wrath on the unbelievers.

    We will be taken up to be with Christ whereupon he will begin to destroy the earth along with those unbelievers who remain on the earth.

    This is all made clear in Mathew 24.

    Revelation is best understood in the light of the clear teaching of Christ. Peter and Paul also address the end times with great clarity.

    PS the bible does not state the duration of the great tribulation. In fact Christ says that nobody knows the day or the hour He will return except the Father.

    There is no reason to believe that it lasts seven years based on the scriptures.
  • Levi - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Yeah, that's where you lost me bro, Christ comes to establish God's Kingdom Here on Earth, no one goes anywhere, we are CHANGED when He returns.

    All who are alive and remain (will) go through the tribulation, only difference is those who have the seal of God will not be touched by the Locust army,,, it is commanded by God

    Who are these locusts? God's Army

    Joel 2:25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, My great army which I sent among you.

    Joel 2:23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.

    Revelation 7:2 - And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

    3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

    Revelation 9:3 - 7 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

    9:4 And it was commanded them{locust army} that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; (but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.)
  • Giannis - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Anthony

    a. If I understand well you believe in a rapture in the midst of those last 7 years or sometime before the 2nd coming of Jesus on earth?

    b. The Revelation is not written in chronological order. God's wrath will not occur only at the end but also during those 7 years. Rev 15:7 "And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven ANGELS seven golden vials FULL OF THE WRATH OF GOD who liveth for ever and ever." It is God's punishment of the sinful world. This is what causes the great tribulation. They are not due to physical causes. If the great tribulation is not due to God's punishment, what is it then? Which are causes of that tribulation and which events are a result of that tribulation? What do you actually mean with great tribulation?

    c. The tribulations in one's life that Paul talks about are persecutions due their faith and for their spiritual training. They are a completely different thing from that great tribulation.

    d. Lets read carefully the discussion Abraham had with the Lord just before the distruction of Sodom and Gommorah, it shows how God thinks and how God acts in similar cases.

    Genesis 18:23-33

    "And Abraham drew near, and said, WILT THOU DESTROY THE RIGHTEOUS WITH THE WICKED?

    Peradventure there be FIFTY righteous within the city: WILT THOU DESTROY AND NOT SPARE THE PLACE FOR THE FIFTY RIGHTEOUS THAT ARE THEREIN?

    THAT BE FAR FROM THEE TO DO AFTER THIS MANNER, TO SLAY THE RIGHTEOUS WITH THE WICKED: AND THAT THE RIGHTEOUS SHOULB BE AS THE WICKED, THAT BE FAR FROM THEE: SHALL NOT THE JUDGE OF ALL THE EARTH DO RIGHT?

    And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I WILL SPARE ALL THE PLACE FOR THEIR SAKES.

    ---

    And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure TEN shall be found there. And he said, I WILL NOT DESTROY IT FOR TEN'S SAKE."

    So there is no way God orders His angels to destroy, that is to "kill" His children together with the wicked world. Noway at all. My opinion.
  • Levi - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    There are two tribulation's in the end times, The tribulation of Satan, and The Tribulation of Christ, which is The Day of The Lord, The Day of Wrath, The Day of Vengeance Luke 21:22 For the great day of His wrath is come; and who is

    able to stand?" Revelation 6:17

    The word STAND in the verse is asked as a question for a reason, asking Who will make the First Resurrection as it does in Psalms 1:5 where the ungodly will not.
  • Anthony William - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Hello Giannis

    Much of the punishments in Revelation are noted AFTER the day of wrath is mentioned in Rev 6:17 which is when Christ returns and raptures his saints before pouring out his wrath on the unbelievers. So, it is my belief that the saints will have been raptured before those punishments are poured out on the earth.

    The bible does not say that there will be a pretribulation rapture, so neither should we.

    Applying this notion to the word of God only causes confusion.

    Paul says that we must through much tribulation enter the kingdom of God.

    Whatever happens in the world can only happen when God permits it. So we cannot say that he is oblivious to the persecution of his people. He allows it and sanctions it so that his people can be tested

    God has often punished his people with war and famine because of their unbelief and rebellion.

    But even a righteous man like Job can be sorely tested at God's discretion.

    The great tribulation will be a time of great apostasy where there will be false prophets and false Christs who would deceive even the elect if it were possible. Even today there is increasing apostasy in the church so the church will be tested by God during the great tribulation.

    Paul says that before Christ returns to gather his saints that there must first be an apostasy and that the man of sin must be revealed sitting in the holy place. 2nd Thessalonians 2, 1-6

    There is no 'age of grace' mentioned in the bible. God has always been gracious and long suffering towards his people.

    Psalms 145:8

    The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy.

    But he also judges his people and can punish them for their disobedience and their rebellion. When God brings a famine or war the righteous and the unrighteous may suffer together.

    So, God's people will suffer persecution and famine during the great tribulation, but Christ will rapture his saints on the "day of his wrath" before He pours out his wrath on the unbelievers.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Anthony, I agree that the great tribulation is not the wrath of God spoken out. I think also, that His wrath comes upon the earth when he returns to bring judgment upon the earth and mankind. Notice the cataclysmic events that are mentioned. The earth could not endure in a life-sustaining way if the heavenly objects fall and melt, if mountains are laid flat and the sky roll back like a scroll, etc.

    The great tribulation will be terrible, indeed, brought on by the wickedness of man, the utter evil intentions of Satan, and what God allows to happen during that time.

    I don't think that Christians will be evacuated with a pre-trib rapture with the reasoning being that God would not let His church go through such terrible events. I do not hold to this reasoning because God has allowed the church to go through great tribulations, persecutions, slaughters even in the first few centuries after Jesus ascended to sit at the right hand of God. And because I agree with you that the church will be caught up with Jesus when he comes the 2nd time after the tribulation, as Matthew 24 seems to say. Thank you for your explanation.
  • Giannis - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Hellow Anthony.

    Let me clear up something dear brother. When we say God's wrath we don't always specifically mean the Day of Judgement, or the day of punishment of people that accepted the mark of the beast like during the fight of Armagedon or after.

    The great tribulation during the time of antichrist will be caused by God's wrath (call it anger, judgement or anything else if you like) to the sinful world. Famine, physical catastrophies like the eartquakes, like the water becoming blood, like that star that fell off the sky, like the sun and moon stopped giving their light etc are caused by angels pouring God's anger on earth to the sinful people. The horses, the wars, the seals opened by angels, the trumpets, the woes, the hail, the fire mixed with blood, the third of all living creatures including people dying etc etc are all done by God through His angels. Rev 7:2 "And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,", Rev 9:15 "And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men."

    As I said before I cannot think that God will be doing all that while His church is still on earth so we, His children, will suffer famine, wars, catastrophies, death together with the sinful world. All of which (and this is very important) are due to His anger for the sinning world which He will surrender to satan and his man, the antichrist. It doesn't sound logical to me. What for? The saints suffer together with sinners? Die together with sinners? That is not what happened to Noah and Lot. They first left and then God punished the sinners. They didn't suffer, they escaped all that. Protection during the great tribulation is only offered to the Jewish people that are going to believe to Jesus. These are the ones that are sealed in their foreheads, Rev 7:3, Rev 9:4

    GBU
  • Anthony William on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Hello Giannis

    If you read Revelation you will see that john received two separate revelations. One which was specifically dealing with the seven churches and what would be their fate in the near future.

    The second revelation begins in Rev 4:1 and is not specific to the seven churches who are addressed in chapters 2and 3.

    We cannot build sound doctrine on assumptions so we must not add to what has been said in revelation bearing in mind the warnings for those who add or take away from what has been written in Revealtion.

    If you read Rev 6:12 onwards you will see events that correlate with Christ's description of his second coming as recorded in mat 24. which Christ says will happen after the great tribulation. And if you read on down to Rev 6:17 you will see the where the day of wrath is mentioned. So the day of wrath happens when Christ returns after the great tribulation.

    If you read all my comments below it might help you understand my thoughts on this very important subject.

    The great tribulation is not the day of wrath.

    You will notice that the angels recued lot on the very same day that God poured out his wrath on the unbelievers. There was no delay. And so it will be when Christ returns after the great tribulation. He will send his angels at the sound of the trumpet to gather his elect before pouring out his wrath on the unbelievers.
  • PHYLLIS on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 6:6 - As a general rule, when most people I know read "and see that thou hurt not the oil and the wine" - most people think of bubbling crude for automobiles and champagne for parties. But, it occurred to me that, in John's time period - most people would not be thinking of crude oil and probably, for most - not about champagne for wild parties. It seems to me that the oil and wine which John would have known about would have had more of a medical benefit - oil for healing and wine for its germ-killing properties. For example, in the story of the good Samaritan, in Luke 10, Jesus tells about the Good Samaritan binding up the wounds of the fallen traveler, pouring in oil and wine. So the oil which John would have known about would have been perhaps olive oil or fish oil (the disciples were, after all, fishermen!) Even today, the primary ingredient in Desitin, the popular diaper rash prevention product, is fish oil. We were wondering if there are any commentaries in which the author discusses the fact that the oil and wine would be referring to the medical uses of those products.
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 6:12-17 Sixth seal.

    If indeed there was praise everywhere as stated after the Rapture in Revelation 5:13 there wasn't anymore. Fear was apparently for all members of society (v. 15) when they tried to hide in vain in the caves of the earth from God and Christ's wrath. For those who would say that this is a parallel passage to the bowl judgments or trumpet judgments are not dividing the Word very carefully. By the bowl judgments men are trying literally to fight against Christ; and are continually blaspheming His name; making no attempt to veil either their bodies or attitudes from God. The demons have succeeded in total control; no doubt aided by the intoxicating power behind Satan's mark of the Beast.

    The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. ( Prov. 9:10; etc.) Some will learn from this and repent such as seen in Psalm 64:9. There is a time when it is too late however such as in Psalm 18:41-42. That is in God's hands. For some at the sixth seal it probably is too late; all those not in the Book of Life will worship the Beast ( Rev. 13:8) and be damned ( Rev. 19:15).

    That will no doubt encompass many who continue in sin even after one third of the earth is destroyed and men are tormented by demons ( Rev. 9:21).

    I pray that as this study continues as an unworthy servant to reflect the Spirit of God in my words and to have the strength to undertake discussion of these awful realities which are to come upon the earth. May someone even one soul take it to heart and be led to repentance and may readers be as Jeremiah states in chapter 20 verse 9 that His Word is fire in our bones. The enemy does not want our minds to be opened to see what is shortly to come to pass. The apocalyptic day which is worse than any that was and will come ( Jeremiah 30:7; Mark 13:19; Matt. 24:21) is at hand. May we all have a "reality check" and be ready for His return to escape all these things ( Luke 21:36; Rev. 3:10).
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Sixth Seal: Revelation 6:9-11

    Our pastor was discussing this verse with others this morning on the awareness of those who have passed from this earthly tabernacle to heaven before they get their Resurrected bodies.

    Some of the Post-Mil camp seem to indicate this is describing all the martyrs of church history.

    It could be said that they also are aware of these things; but the SPECIFIC method of beheading seems to be indicated in Revelation 20:4 as well as the clue in verse 11 to be "killed as they were". There is also a distinct time frame "a little while" in verse 11 as well.

    Several inferences can be made from this information. First; it is clear that there is anger and probably blame for what is going on from those who still cling tenaciously to the witness of Christ while others are dying in this manner. The resulting event in the sixth seal immediately following shows the awareness of God and the Son and judgment impending.

    Secondly; there is no mention yet of the mark of the Beast or even the two prophets at this point. Certainly martyrdom will continue after a pause (possibly being prevented for a large part during the ministry of the 144,000 when the great multitude comes to faith). Since the woman riding the Beast characterizes this time in Rev. 17:7 the false religion of the world is the likely culprit for most of these killings; later Antichrist destroys this system to get all worship for himself then starts his own killing campaign. ( Rev. 17:16). It appears the 5th Trumpet brings the demonic entity that energizes the Antichrist bringing him to life from an apparent deadly wound ( Zech 11:17). All things in their due time.
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 6:5-8 The famine; pestilence; and Death and Hell.

    The concept of judgment with the sword; famine and pestilence is clear from Jeremiah 14:12; 27:13 and 42:17; Ezekiel 5:12; 7:15 and 14:21. There are two of these three judgments together in portions of Leviticus and Deuteronomy and certainly other places as well. What is unique here is the pale horse signifying death and the "beasts of the earth". This has been defined as a possible veiled reference to viruses or bacteria; or perhaps literally animals attacking people. What we see in this pale green horse is the power behind all this; men being accelerated to hell (as Isaiah 5:14 states hell has enlarged herself). Matthew 24 also discusses wars and famines and verse 9 gets into the 5th seal of persecution of saints.

    In looking at the Restrainer ( 2 Thess. 2:6-7) we also can look at the fact that once removed; not only will wickedness spread at accelerated pace; but also judgments and the rate the lost are being sent to hell. Perhaps the Tribulation believers will be pretty much exempt from these plagues as it seems martyrdom is the most common form of death. There is no specific mention until the trumpet judgments of the 144,000 and possibly others being protected from certain judgments. These verses seem to show by and large lost people are judged this way even BEFORE the mark of the beast is instituted. It is God who ultimately determines the course of pestilence as well as war; and clearly no efforts of man will curb this judgment. Obviously; starvation will not only come from the wars; but by the droughts and other natural disasters unleashed; again mentioned as a particular signs and wonders action the 2 Prophets engage in as "often as they will." ( Rev. 11:6). Again; there appears to be some lag time for these prophets to appear; and perhaps end their ministry just after the midpoint of the 7 years. It is unclear if a delay occurs between the Rapture and first seal as well.
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 6:2-4 The red horse

    The first seal involves a rider with a bow but no arrows. We need to read Daniel to see more specific descriptions of this "man of intrigue" who "through peace destroys many" and "divides the land for gain." He apparently is into the occult as he "understands dark sentences." It appears there are other clues about his character with the "Assyrian" in Isaiah; the descriptions of the fatal wound that occurs later in his career in Zechariah; and even some hints that are in Habakkuk as to his character; and those describing the "son of perdition" that describe both Judas Iscariot and Christ. (See also 2 Thessalonians 2:3; John 17:12).

    In any event; there will be a period of illusory peace as verse 2 describes it being "taken from the earth." It wouldn't be all that surprising that for a short time the world is in such a state of shock from the Rapture/Resurrection that they are relatively submissive to the "man with the answers." It wouldn't be surprising if he promised not only world peace; but prosperity by eliminating all the nation's debt and introducing a worldwide currency such as the gold standard before the mark of the beast ( Dan. 11:43).

    The red horse says nothing about armies or organized military campaigns. It has been said this is equivalent to "kingdom against kingdom" ( Matt. 24:7) indicating ethnic groups. It certainly could be the next stage or preliminary setup to the military conquests of Antichrist.

    Even savage one on one combat in the end combined with famine and pestilence kills one fourth of the earth. Anyone who compares this to past events or doesn't think it is too bad compared to other judgments is seriously underplaying obvious meaning or just plain out of their minds. We may have foreshadowing now but once the birth pangs get started they continue to get worse with each wave. There is no more delay as Ezekiel 12 and Rev. 10:6 and other verses indicate.
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 6 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 6:1-2 the white horse.

    There are two basic interpretations of the white horse that of being Antichrist (which I subscribe to); or Christ. Because Post-Millennials (who think that the church is currently fulfilling the 1000 year reign; clearly symbolically with almost 2000 years since the crucifixion) ascribe this conquering king to Christ they also take the time frame in Revelation as having been at least partially fulfilled. This is due to the belief in only one general Resurrection (despite obvious differences in the descriptions); jamming everything related to the events of the Second coming to those of the Great White Throne judgment; in other words no time frame after Armageddon for an earthly reign of Christ; and an immediate new heaven and earth. This forces clear verses in Isaiah about a man dying at less than 100 being accursed; other verses about those who don't worship the Lord not having rain; and of course a literal rebuilt Temple. With this mindset at an extreme level we find those who are into the Dominionist mindset; that Christ can't return or won't until things keep getting more and more Christian and better and better. Often a literal Antichrist isn't believed in at all; which begs the question for those not spiritually discerned if they will believe that he indeed IS the Christ. Full Preterists who think He is already here in some form will fall for it no doubt.

    Further supplementing my point is the common thread whether in Islam with the 12th Imam; the New Age Maitreya; or the Jews who Christ stated point blank would believe another coming in his own name ( John 5:43). He will be another great orator like Hitler; conqueror like Napolean; and therefore fulfill the statements made by the Club of Rome in 1957 about "whether God or the devil we will receive him" when discussing the need for a leader to rule.

    It is clear from Daniel and other prophecies that there is yet a final future ruler to come.
  • Postmyers567 - In Reply on Revelation 6:6 - 1 year ago
    The Antichrist System, Satan is "The Antichrist", the head of all Antichrists and there are many....

    1Jo 2:18 (KJV) Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
  • Tianyuying on Revelation 6:6 - 1 year ago
    The beast that came out of the sea is symbol of the Greek culture,substitute of Satan,Sea is symbol of the human world of the overseas,of the nations, not of the western countries:the Renaissance Greek culture,with tints of the other three great cultures of the world, namely, Confucianism, Buddhism and Islamism.-----the Antichrist

    The beast that came out of the earth is a product of the western land proper, a prophet, a spokesperson for the Renaissance Greek culture, whose name is 666, of which the basic grammar of the greek language, the declensions of the Greek noun: singular, dual, plural,masculine, faminine and neutral, there is one 6. The conjugtion of the Greek verb are:present, past, future, perfect, imperfect and aorist, the secons 6. The Greek verb has six moods, which are:indicative, imperative,subjunctive, optative, infinitive,and participle, a third 6. put them together, that is 666. In the end days, one without of the basic knowledge of the Renaissance Greek language cannot sell, that is, to produce, to write, to show to others,neither can buy, that is to acquire, to understand,to....

    At the end, the world will be unified into one cullture, one way, one value, the value that is "Man is measure of everything", for the end time people, no norm, no dogma, no rule, what man likes is the value-----the Antichrist?
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 2 years ago
    The subject of prophecy is complex and as a new Christian 40 years ago something that was often on my mind. The basic crux of theory as to the last generation was that 1948 with Israel becoming a nation in a day ( Isaiah 66:7-8) which was prophesied meant that that was the beginning of that generation. Well; it is 2022; and with Psalm 90:10 pretty well showing the length of a generation being 70 years or 80 at most we are already going to go to at least 2029 before the 2nd coming. (Interestingly the second part of the Psalm 90:10 about "labor and sorrow" do sound like labor pains; but also could just show the natural end of life for the individual.

    Anyway; some say that the fig tree parable assures us of 1948; or perhaps 1967 when Jerusalem was recaptured. That was under the assumption of a 40 year generation when I was a young Christian. Many forget the second part of the prophecy about ALL the leaves ( Luke 21:29 and other gospel passages). This would tie into the land of "unwalled villages" with the Ezekiel 38 war as well; and the prosperity in the land. It would seem that oil and natural resources are beginning to be the "hook in the jaw" for many-whether Russia is Gog; or Turkey and other nations who may fit the bill better. Anyway; it seems that Psalm 83 who discuss the surrounding nations (such as Palestinians) and perhaps Syria would show a war with the surrounding immediate neighbors; and the Gog/Magog the outer perimeter. Probably; the Gulf nations will have prosperity first for a time after Israel begins to expand their borders; and share the economic prosperity with other nations. The peace treaty ideas starting a few years back seems to have the beginnings of Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 11:39 "dividing the land for gain" with all the land and money brokering. It could all happen between the first and 2nd seal but it seems it will be before that.

    For now; judgment begins with the House of God. ( 1 Peter 4:17). Keep the faith! Agape.
  • Free - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 2 years ago
    Dear "Tracy Hill", It was God who triumphed over death when He raised Jesus from the power of death, three days after Jesus died on the cross at Calvary. Jesus appeared to the Resurrection to many people. And the disciples had to wait in Jerusalem. After He ascended to heaven. Easter is about Jesus' death, 40 days later came Pentecost and then came the Holy Spirit. We know all this. Acts 2 In short.

    But I think you're thinking about where in the end times we are now. Dear Friend, The apostles also believed that they were in the end times. So we are not confused, but looking ahead and knowing that we are now closer than ever. Repent, beloved, and be baptized of the Lord Jesus Christ, and you and all your house will be saved Amen.

    My advice, Read Revelation dear. And get your own opinion, ask Jesus to open your mind to the kingdom of heaven and gain insight into the secrets that are from the very beginning of the Earth.

    Romans 8:1-11 God bless us all in Jesus Name.
  • Tracy Hill on Revelation 6 - 2 years ago
    My question is part are we at now in Revelations unfolding to the resurrection and the end of the world?
  • Intercessory Prayer - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 2 years ago
    Interceding on behalf of others is called intercessory prayer. It's not a quick kind of prayer. It's standing in another's place and praying on their behalf. It's done in a closet, which means we do not boast.

    Scripture tells us that Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father, and ever lives to intercede for The Saints: those who are saved and those who will be saved.

    We join our prayers with Jesus's.

    Intercession is prayer that pleads with God for your needs and the needs of others. But it is also much more than that. Intercession involves taking hold of God's will and refusing to let go until His will comes to pass.

    Intercession is warfare -- the key to God's battle plan for our lives. But the battleground is not of this earth. The Bible says, "We are not fighting against humans. We are fighting against invisible forces and authorities and against rulers of darkness and spiritual powers in the heavens above" ( Eph. 6:12).

    Intercessory prayer takes place in this spiritual world where the battles for our own lives, our families, our friends and our nation are won or lost.

    My comment:

    There is strength in numbers. Five people in a church room interceding together can make a huge difference. Not only do we BIND evil, we LOOSE the power of heaven to fight for, release captives (to sin), heal the sick, release blessing according to Gods will.

    This subject requires some book reading to prepare. We need more people to learn of this kind of prayer.

    They made a movie about it, some years back. Walmart might have it? The War Room

    Mishael
  • James tate on Revelation 6 - 2 years ago
    What patriot (man) can stop the judgement of God?
  • Della - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 2 years ago
    5115. toxon

    Strong's Concordance

    toxon: a bow

    Original Word: , ,

    Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter

    Transliteration: toxon

    Phonetic Spelling: (tox'-on)

    Definition: a bow

    Usage: a bow.

    crown (krown)

    1. Any structure, normal or pathologic, resembling or suggesting a crown or a wreath.

    2. DENTISTRY That part of a tooth that is covered with enamel, or an artificial substitute for that part.

    Synonym(s): corona [TA] .

    [L. corona]

    Medical Dictionary for the Health Professions and Nursing Farlex 2012

    corona Any structure resembling a crown.

    Collins Dictionary of Medicine Robert M. Youngson 2004, 2005
  • Mishael on Darts and Plagues - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 2 years ago
    DARTS

    2 Samuel 18:14

    Then said Joab, I may not tarry thus with thee. And he took three darts in his hand, and thrust them through the heart of Absalom, while he was yet alive in the midst of the oak.

    2 Chronicles 32:5

    Also he strengthened himself, and built up all the wall that was broken, and raised it up to the towers, and another wall without, and repaired Millo in the city of David, and made darts and shields in abundance.

    Job 41:29

    Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.

    Ephesians 6:16

    Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

    DARTS

    2 Samuel 18:14

    Then said Joab, I may not tarry thus with thee. And he took three darts in his hand, and thrust them through the heart of Absalom, while he was yet alive in the midst of the oak.

    2 Chronicles 32:5

    Also he strengthened himself, and built up all the wall that was broken, and raised it up to the towers, and another wall without, and repaired Millo in the city of David, and made darts and shields in abundance.

    Job 41:29

    Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.

    Ephesians 6:16

    Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

    NOTE: the word Corona is not in the Bible. You can Google, but

    If you are referring to the Sun or the corona virus, there are 3 scriptures that DO name China and the Middle East Palestinian nations as places where plagues have come from:

    3 PLAGUES IN THE BIBLE FROM ASIA & MIDEAST

    Revelation 9:14-18

    Matthew 24:14

    Isaiah 49:12

    China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, and Corona virus; which has killed before. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet.


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