Revelation Chapter 3 Discussion



 
  • Lau - in Reply on Revelation 3
    With humble heart I ask you to read Matt 24 without any preconceived assumptions.

    1. Nowhere does he mention any part of what happens in relation to the 7 years

    2. One gets taken and the other not..so you're saying neither are saved? And to say that the saved would not be working. That is not biblical to my knowledge..if you need to eat you will probably be trying to grow food. Makes no sense

    3. There are many clear verses that tell us that the elect (saved) shall suffer tribulation

    4. There are many verses that tell us that we (elect) are not appointed to Gods wrath.

    Don't confuse the two kjb is clear about this.

    5. V 29 and 30 clearly tell us that after the tribulation the son of man comes in the clouds to gather the elect.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 3:2
    There's a new movie on YouTube. Search BLESSON. The movie subject is "Biblical End Times."

    It's scripture. No dialog. Since it is dealing with reality in this time period we live in; it's violent. It fully represents true believers, versus false prophets and false believers.

    A little over 1 hour. Last 2 minutes: heaven.

    It covers the Bema Seat of Christ. Great White Throne Judgment. Satan in hell 1000 years; and then in the Lake of Fire.

    I've never seen anything like this. It makes you want to warn people of the coming Judgments. Some people will think God is mean. The Bible has been around 6000 years. We were warned. Prophesy is unfolding.

    Only 1 hour+ you may want to share it with friends. If you don't like it, just don't watch it.
  • Free - in Reply on Revelation 3:2
    Sorry friend "Francisca", but here there was a lot of compound confusion. Do you think that you can embroider it a little differently?

    Stay blessed in His Holy name Jesus, love u in Christ. Matthew 25:14-30
  • Francisca on Revelation 3:2
    In the end it will be as in days of Noah.

    But this time with fire.

    People were eating buyin ect but God was not in they're heart. There was fornication sex gay, pedo, giants no honor to God ect.

    Then God Took (take) them all away.

    And LEFT noah and his fam BEHIND.

    So wil it be in the end.

    2 wil be in the field (work) 1 wil be taken (took)

    And 1 will be Left BEHIND. Like in Noah's days.

    2 wil be in bed and 1 wil be taken (took)

    And 1 will be LEFT BEHIND.

    LIKE IN NOAH'S DAYS.

    WOOO FOR THEM I LEAVE BEHIND. BUT MORE WOO FORE THOSE I TAKE.

    in the minds of the 7 years christ will come

    For the sake of the ELECT, chosen ones.

    For els there would be no flesh left.

    Understand why God compares it to noah!!!

    Why would you think you do not have to go treu tribalation. Then you must be more special But his chosen loved ones he leaves behind to go treu tribalation? . Daniel 11 and 12 is clear about it.

    Also crist said if the master has to go treu tribulations his servands have also go treu tribulations. God said keepet the sabath in those days of tribulation. (Saturday)

    Crist said how jona was 3 days and 3nights

    In the fish, so wil I be 3 days and 3 nights in the mids of the earth.

    He died on a Friday. And night. Saturday and night. Sunday and night. He raised on Monday.

    But the sun worshippers of AMEN ra wanted it to be the Sunday as a holy day.

    Amen ra, nimrod his rebirth on 25 Dec. The evergreen tree Of nimrod still hanged with gold and silver. Satan, Santa with his demon helpers EH elfs

    Like the old days. His wife and mother semaris, Ishtar. Google images Ishtar and statue liberty.

    The whore of Babylon the moon God.

    Check and proof me wrong.

    Wake up from the false teachings.

    And stop saying in the name of the father AMEN. For you are calling AMEN his name as GOD.

    The whole world is being fooled.

    Just say in the end ALMIGHTY GOD Let it be so. Or ALMIGHTY GOD let it be done.

    but not AMEN.

    God his holy day is now a day of sex party ect ect.
  • Giannis - in Reply on Revelation 3
    Dear Lau.

    I think the passage that you mention in your post is about the second coming of Jesus at the end of the 7 years that the antichrist rules on earth. Pay attention to V29 and V30

    " V29. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    V30. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.".

    Why do tribes mourn? Because they accepted the mark of the beast.

    For what Paul call Rupture see Matthew 24:40 "Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left"

    What is one doing in the field? The answer is working. But if he didn't accept the beast's mark how is he working, how does he get paid or how can he sell his goods and buy other, and if he did get the mark how is he going to be grabed to the sky?

    My opinion is that rupture occurs before tribulation. Also Daniel has some good arguments in his post.

    GBU
  • Lau - in Reply on Revelation 3
    Tribulation comes before the rapture. Read Matthew 24:29-31

    Tribulation is not the same as God wrath
  • Giannis - in Reply on Revelation 3
    Dear Ren

    Please read Matthew 24:36-44. Pay attention to verses 38 and 39. (Also Luke 17:26-27). Jesus says in simple words that on the day He comes people will deal with their everyday works just as another ordinary day in this world. So it is obvious that that day can not be at the end of the week (7 years) that the antichrist will rule on earth because at that time catastrophies, disasters, word war, hunger and death (tribulation) will happen on earth. People will be frightened to death of the happenings to come on earth.(See Luke 21:25-27).They are not ordinary times when people have their everyday life. Jesus talks about some other time that life on earth is normal with people doing their normal activities.

    Please read Luke 21:34-35 Jesus warns us, His disciples, to be careful to be ready when He comes and not to allow cares of this life to make us loose and unprepared. But we know in Revelation people will have to put on themselves the mark 666 so to be able to buy and sell. How is then possible for christians to care for things in this world? During the time of antichrist christians will hide to save their lives from the beast. they will be slaughtered. So the coming of Jesus to grab His church is a different day from the day He comes with His saints and angels to beat the army of antichrist in the fight of Armagedon. It precedes tribulation, it is still a good time.. So when is that time that Jesus comes to grab His church? Read 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12. Pay attention to verses 6, 7 and 8. Here it says that the antichrist will not appear until somebody who prevents him is taken out of this world. The most usual explanation is that "he to be taken out" is the Holly Spirit. And since the church can not exist without the Holly Spirit, the church has to go as well. Satan can not rule on earth as long as the church is in the world. We have authority on him. Many can be said but not in a post.

    GBU
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Revelation 3
    Please read Revelation 8, note also 8:6, Revelation 9, Revelation 10, note Revelation 10:7, 1Corinthians 15:52, 1Thessalonians 4:16, READ in context

    Jeremiah 4:13, Daniel 7:13, Joel 2, Zephaniah 1, note: Zephaniah 1:14-17, Matthew 25:31-46, Revelation 1:7, Amos 5:18-20

    Matthew 24:3-51, Mark 13:4-37,
  • Ren on Revelation 3
    Does great tribulation come before the rapture? Or are the chosen for the rapture, taken before tribulation?
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 3
    Daniel 7:5

    Go on Google

    Type in Daniel 7:5

    , COMMENTARIES (read through few)

    Some people will say Russia is the bear. Wait till CHRIS is in the room. He might have more to say about this.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 3
    Daniel 7:5

    Go on Google

    Type in Daniel 7:5

    , COMMENTARIES (read through few)

    Some people will say Russia is the bear. Wait till CHRIS is in the room. He might have more to say about this.
  • TED WEIDINGER on Revelation 3
    Where in the bible does it mention about the bear from the north cometh down unto israel?
  • GiGi - in Reply on Revelation 3:9
    Thank you Chris,

    I appreciate your support. I see that the posts before and between my posts were removed. I do not know why. I truly wanted to know more so that I could understand the poster and give a reasoned response. I prayed for those two posters last night.

    We just don't know those who come here to post and often what seem like innocuous words offend others. So, I am always glad when people speak honestly with me.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 3:9
    I'm with you wholeheartedly GiGi. What you wrote to the original poster made perfect sense, for anyone wanting to attempt responding to him/her. I was going to ask the same thing, but thought the statement given was nonsense & my reply then would be of equal value. Keep up the good work.
  • GiGi - in Reply on Revelation 3:9
    Dear Richard, I am sorry that I have offended you. I was really wanting to know more of BADAZZ's thinking. Not trying to mother anyone. Sorry you take it that way. I am glad you shared your thoughts with me. I do think that this site is for anyone to speak their thoughts and to respond to posts as they feel led to do. But I will take your criticism under prayerful consideration. Have a good evening.
  • GiGi - in Reply on Revelation 3:9
    Dear BAD

    Your posts do not make much sense. Could you elaborate and explain your thoughts more so that those of us who sincerely wish to understand and respond can do so?
  • Peter Menoh - in Reply on Revelation 3
    BAD,

    Is this a trick question? Daniel 8 describes Antiochus Epiphanes in 163 BC attacking Israel. Who are the other 2?
  • BADDAZZ777 on Revelation 3
    I am one and both no human knows one or both like me, in his name amen . the third and final an-ti christ now walks among you hin name....................
  • Louise Wilson on Revelation 3
    To GOD Be The Glory, Reading GOD'S Word and getting the true understanding, who you are and where you came FROM; Ephesians 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and without blame before him in love. This meaning that we are like GOD himself wrapped up into an earthen vessel housing the spirit that is within us to do his will, his way here on earth, clearly it is written in Matthew in 6:10 Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven, GOD created us in His image to do the work here in earth as it is heaven, we are not to lose ourselves into this worldly world being disobedient to the call in which we were created to do, to be, and to say what Our Heavenly has predestine for each of us to do for His KINGDOM; 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people that we should show forth the praises of him he hath called us out of darkness into his marvelous light. GOD IS LOVE
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 3
    Hello Jorge. That's very interesting - I have never heard this before, that it was the Apostle John whom Paul was referring to in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4.

    If that's the case then Paul was stating that John was known by him (which he probably was) & that John had this heavenly vision (in Revelation) about the early 40s AD. However, John was not exiled to Patmos till much later (in the 90s AD) probably under orders of Emporer Domitian (who was ruling at that time). If these dates are correct then it seems impossible for Paul to speak of John having these visions when they hadn't occurred as yet.

    As well, how do you understand 2 Corinthians 12:5-7, where Paul writes about 'glorying' (boasting)? Is he then speaking about boasting in John's revelations & in case his boasting got out of hand, a "thorn in the flesh" was given him to keep him humble? It seems incredible that poor Paul would be so afflicted for the likelihood of his boasting of someone else's revelations. Yet, the clear understanding of the 2 Corinthians passage is to the Apostle Paul himself. If perchance he was speaking of another, how could Paul glory in that revelation, since the words of that revelation could not be revealed (v4); if nothing revealed, then where is the glorying? Sorry for all these questions - your comments have me perplexed.
  • Jorge Castillo on Revelation 3
    The book of revelation was revealed to John; the beloved disciple of Christ; who else deserve to receive this reward because John has loved Jesus more than the others disciples, his true and intense love is agape and genuine, not Evil desire on it, but love God. ( Revelation 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;), (Revelation1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,) And even the scholar of the universities did not understood Paul when he declared that he knew a man, in Christ Jesus that was foretold things that he can not say it. ("Awesome"), By the Holy Spirit help you will know it. {

    2nd Corinthians 12:2 I knew a man, (John the beloved disciple of Jesus,) in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. (John the beloved disciple of Jesus,), 2nd Corinthians 12:3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows;), (Paul can not tell because was not his own experience, but John can and he revealed in Revelations 1:10), 2nd Corinthians 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. 2nd Corinthians 12:5 Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities. (bad sight,) 2nd Corinthians 12:6 For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he sees me to be, or that he hears of me.}
  • Rick - in Reply on Revelation 3
    Stephanie Smith Nostra whats His name did so called divination by water not good, also keep something in mind a prophet of the true God when he speaks what he speaks comes to pass verbatim not in riddles or things of that nature. When it Comes to God there is no guess work or confusion. In His Service
  • English sacha - in Reply on Revelation 3
    This is just a guess from me but I don't think that any of us Christians will loose any sleep over nosrtowhatshisox . None of us should pay any attention to any kind of charlatan .
  • Stephanie Smith on Revelation 3
    Would God considered Nastrodomuos prediction coming from him lies and considered him evil?
  • Dennis J Cherry on Revelation 3
    Revelations 12:7-9 And There Was A War In Heaven: Michael and His Angels Fought Against The Dragon; and The Dragon Fought and His Angels, And Prevailed Not; Neither Was Their Place Found Any More In Heaven. And The Great Dragon Was Cast Out, That Old Serpent, Called The Devil, and Satan, Which Deceiveth The Whole World: he was cast out Into The Earth, and His Angels Were Cast Out With Them.

    Ecclesiasticus Chapter 1 Out Of The KJV Apocrypha

    The Prologue of The Wisdom of Jesus The Son of Sirach. Whereas many and great things have been delivered unto us by the law and the prophets, and by others that have followed their steps, for the which things Israel ought to be commended for learning and wisdom; and whereof not only the readers must needs become skillful themselves, but also they that desire to learn be able to profit them which are without, both by speaking and writing: My Grandfather Jesus, when he had much given himself to the reading of the law, and the prophets, and other books of our fathers, and had gotten therein good judgment, was drawn on also himself to write something pertaining to learning and wisdom; to the intent that those which are desirous to learn, and are addicted to these things, might profit much more in living according to the law.

    Look @ Isaiah 7:10-15 Prophesied 700 Before Christ Virgin Birth and Fulfillment Of ABBA'S Son Was Born; MATTHEW 1:22-23; Butt The Anti-Christ DeceiveMankind To Call Him Jesus & Not To Use These Isaiah 7:10-15; Now Look At This Scriptures In Matthew 1:22-23; Why Does The World Call Him Jesus from The Latin Version / Translation IESUS Which Was Used In The 1611 KJV Bible From 1611 Until 1629 & In 1630 Some Anti-Christs/ JezeritesChanged It To Jesus????

    Revealed To Me From Our ABBA; J.E.S.U.S.= Jehovah s.e.n.t. Emmanuel 2 Save Us Sinners;

    "J.E.H.O.V.A.H.= Jehovah, Emmanuel & Holy-Ghost, Overturned Verdict Against Humanity"
  • D W L - in Reply on Revelation 3:2
    Revelation 22:18 - 19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    John 15: 2-8 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
  • Simon - in Reply on Revelation 3:2
    Sacha,

    I understand your feelings. I appreciate your thoughtful posts, and how you internalize the Spirit. I can answer your question in one sentence: All souls go back to God; dead children, like all dead, await the resurrection.

    Everyone is trying their best, some withhold their true opinion for reprisal. Don't get me wrong, If someone nicked my horse meat pie, I'd throw a wobbly, too.

    I am dedicating my forthcoming Ezekiel 38 composite to you. It took me about a week to compile from memory, and had to cut out bone to get it down to 6 pages. You will like it. The OT ties in the NT with unexpected delight, stories that fill in mysteries cracks, while honoring the majesty of the prophets.
  • Sacha - in Reply on Revelation 3:2
    Simon ,thanks but i gotta get out of this place ,love in Christ .
  • Simon - in Reply on Revelation 3:2
    Sacha,

    No, don't go. Give it one more week. You know I love you so, baby please don't go.
  • Sacha on Revelation 3:2
    S Spenser ,you didnt answer my question as to why you believe this child went to heaven . These verses are very clear to me ,very simple . Im done on here . Bye every one , may God be mercifull to you all .


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