Revelation Chapter 20 Discussion Page 7

Remember that Revelations is written in a prophetic, poetic genre. You will not glean truth from it if you read it like a scientist, lawyer or politician; put your artistic hat on for this one. Often where people get off in this passage by failing to view the "thousand years" as simply a symbol of planned completeness. You'll miss the intent if you impose "literalness" to the figures.

This is spiritual. The virgins part means they haven't been defiled by the harlott (Rome) and been deceived into getting the mark. The ONLY way not to get it is to have the Seal of God. It's IN your forehead being grounded in TRUTH. God gives final warning Come out of her my people..Which will we choose? Satan came to deceive the WHOLE world. Popular opinion must be wrong ! Think, read,understand

The bible did not mention any group of people that will eter heaven. What John apostles was saying is any one that is not found in the book of life will be cast into lake of fire

Yes, the 144,000 which were sealed from the twelve tribes of Israel will be with Him together with them the shall believe on His name ( from the Gentile age - John 1:10 - 13). We became children of God before we were fleshly born here on earth but by predestination. ( Romans 9:23 - 25 says He shall call us His people who were not His - not in 144,000)

No, the 144,000 (12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel) sealed, virgin, Jewish men who will preach the gospel during the first three and a half years of the "Great Tribulation," will either endure, and go into the earthly Kingdom of Jesus Christ, or be slain and resurrected, to also go into the Kingdom. That's an errant teaching of JWs, that they think it's them. It's not.

So only 144,000 only go to heaven? Where do the rest of us go?

Shirley, do you believe Rev. 20:15, if you do, then 1-14 is very clear, what it says, is what will happen. Amen. Even so, come Lord Jesus come. Amen

I dont under stand it

Reuben, read Ephesians 2:8-9. We are saved by grace through faith. We are not saved by our works.

what about people who believe they'll get to by their own merits ?

I guess that means Jesus is the way the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but through Him. And without Him we can do nothing. I've seen children who were lost or separated from their parents at the store, mall, dept. store, etc. When the children are and reunited with their loved ones they are always crying. Being lost and alone is perhaps the scariest state of mind there is for a little child completely severed from the only love he she knows. I couldn't imagine being eternally separated from my Creator. we weren't designed for that.

Death in the Great Book always refers to separation not inialation.. Eternal beings are eternal which be its very definition cannot be uneternal through inialation. The spirit separated from the Spirit in Gen 3.. The spirit separated from the body all the way through the Scriptures until ressurected together for judgement.. Rev 20 speaks of the final or second separation which is eternal separation from the presence of our Great Creator

Revelations chapter 20 speaks about the first and second death, this shows there is a death off the body and also death to the sole. In the end when everyone is judged by God, there will be the fortunate ones and the unfortunate ones in other words the good people and the bad . The last verse speaks about hell and death being cast into the lake of fire were it will no longer exist . So the answer is yes you need to live a righteous life to gain everlasting life and the glories of God, and if you failed to do so and not accept the salvation of God through Jesus Christ your soul will be eradicated in the second death . Evil will pay the price for being what it is because it does not belong in the presence of good, it's just a matter of time when it will all be set into place .

i have been struggling with my own identity lately since I am seeing with the right eyes now that I took my glasses off And my senses have seemed to be fused together. Wanted to help out on a larger scale but guess I gotta start building my own arc first.... Thank you for this... I needed it to help me stay focused on the right path that was already payed out for me

All the people born in the thousand year mill. Will have to be tried, to see if they want to serve The Lord or serve the devil. Most of them are going to serve the devil, just like it is today.

we all sin and fall short of the glory of God, the Bible does say all who believe in Jesus and he is the son of God will be saved? Now you have to live a certain way to be saved?

Evangelist Robinson 2Thess 2:1-3say that man of sin be revealed before the Lord Jesus Christ come and gather His saints

The souls of those who are beheaded for their testimony of Jesus, are before the altar in heaven. Jesus will resurrect them when he comes to set up His kingdom, and they will rule with him one thousand years in the kingdom of God. Then the Devil will be loosed from the bottomless pit, to deceive the nations once again, for a season. Jesus will cause fire to come down from heaven to destroy them all.The kingdom shall be without end, and the Devil will be cast into the Lake of Fire, with the Antichrist, and False prophet. So repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Do not add or subtract from the Holy Scriptures or your name will be blotted out of the Book of Life.

The Bible in Revelation says that there will be no more death,that all things old have passed away,so if death is cast into the lake of fire, and hell is cast into the lake of fire, and the wicked are cast into the lake of fire, then it must mean all of them are no more, and don 't exist in eternity...

A translational error: Hades isn't the same as hell. Hades is the same as the grave. A waiting place for judgement day.

Very good chapter and very useful

Please I need scriptures to cross reference revelation 20and21 about the judgement

REV 20-4...The only thing we have to go on is what the bible says, and it is pretty clear that the 1000 years begins after the 2nd coming of our Lord and KING, which may be soon! I hope! The evil that is in the Earth has been here since the beginning, before the flood, after the flood up and till this very day we live, it is the nature of man, and what our Heavenly Father is doing, is sifting out the evil disobedience of mankind along with satan and his angelic following, to create a Kingdom of beings that are Godlike minded and loving and obedient, HIS CHILDREN! leaving SIN, HATRED AND DISOBEDIENCE, for a memory, in the Kingdom to come thanks to our HOLY SOVEREIGN GOD OF THE UNIVERSE. AMEN!!

I think that this 1000 years is over and now the devil and satan are on the earth raising havoc and war. This will go on for a little while it says. Then God will distroy with fire to devour.

You are not the first that has mentioned the second chance idea. And II Peter 3:10 shows us why it is not possible according to scripture. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. What this scripture is saying despite what the church world preach, when the Messiah comes He comes as the DESTROYER and at this time nothing on Earth is left alive. The body of believers will be taken at this same moment to meet the Lord in the air and will be taken back with the Lord to his habitation, HEAVEN, the earth will remain void, and desolate for a thousand years, until the time of Judgment is over. AMEN!!

It seems to me that people will have a second chance.. by their works..to enter heaven..by this verse what do you think ?

I don 't understand why Satan MUST be released for a little while.

Very interesting needed to understand more about Christ, thanks

Hello Pastor Doug The word "rapture " does not appear in the Bible. The word itself means a catching away both in body and in spirit. When you look at 1 Thessalonians 4 12 thru 18 it speaks of those being caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord. So even though the word rapture does not appear the indication of a catching away is there. Even Jesus Christ talks about one will be taken and one left, Matthew 24 40. The power that will enable a person to do this is the Holy Ghost. This is why it is important to follow Acts 2 38 and live a saved life according to the scriptures. Also through this power a person will be changed in a moment of a twinkling of an eye, 1 Corinthians 15 52.

Part 3 of 3 The beast will not appear until after the rapture takes place as well, because people will have to take the mark of the beast, which is 666 in order to buy or sell during the tribulation. If the people do not take this mark they will have to have their head chopped off. President Obama has not told anyone they have to have the mark of 666 in order to buy or sell anything. There has not been an announcement that anyone has to have their head chopped off.