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  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 2:7
    If you type the word in the Search Box at the top left of the Main Page, it will give you your answer. As it happens, the word 'Church' appears 114 times.

    However, the word 'Church' is from the Greek, 'Ekklesia', & this means 'an assembly or congregation'. So in Acts 7:38, Stephen, when testifying to the Jews, mentioned "the church (which was) in the wilderness", referring to the Israelite congregation that had fled the bondage in Egypt. So the 'Church' that was born from Jesus Christ is only seen in the New Testament, but it can have a broader meaning to any assembling of people or congregation, specifically those meeting as part of a religious group or gathering.

    And then one sees a group such as the "Church of Scientology" who regard themselves as a Church (because of the primary meaning of 'Ekklesia'), but has almost no reference in its teaching to anything of God & Christ leaving such belief to the conviction of its adherents.
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Revelation 2:7
    it actually says the paradise of GOD, thats always heaven in the scripture
  • James Canady - in Reply on Revelation 2:7
    The answers to your question is yes
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 2:7
    This can be a difficult question to answer depending on how you understand certain Scriptures.

    For those who deem that Heaven & Paradise are the same location, they will cite 2 Corinthians 12:4 & Revelation 2:7, where in each of these references, Paul & John indicated that Heaven, the abode of God, is intended.

    For those who believe that Paradise is a separate place, they will appeal to the location of departed souls pre-Cross, as in Luke chapter 16. Here we see the rich man being tormented in hell, & beyond the separating gulf, there was Lazarus, the beggar, who enjoyed relative comfort. And in Luke 23:43, Jesus tells the thief on the Cross that he would also go to Paradise with Him. We assume that this wasn't Heaven, as Jesus said that He had not ascended to the Father (John 20:17). We understand that while Jesus' Body was in the sepulchre for the three days, Jesus, as also the thief, went down into Paradise. But at Jesus' bodily resurrection, those bodies in the graves also arose (Matthew 27:53) with Him & we might assume that their souls once held in Paradise were now released to enter Heaven.

    Some compartmentalize Hades with a section of suffering & another section of comfort. At Christ's death & resurrection, the souls who were in comfort (being noted for their faith & love for God), were released from there & taken into Heaven, the abode of God. However, the wicked still remain in Hades awaiting their final judgement & casting into the Lake of Fire (in the future).

    So in answer to your question, both Heaven & Paradise can now be correctly considered as one & the same. But there was a distinction made pre-Cross, as those held in that Paradise (a place of comfort) awaited the great event of Christ's Sacrifice that provided the payment for their sins based on their faith & removed their condemnation. Romans 8:1.
  • Daniel Raymond Gibbs on Revelation 2:1
    Why is some of the printing in the REVELATION, RED, in Chapters 2 and 3? Also in Revelation 14:10, 19:20, the Beast was also cast into fire and 21:8, it addresses the issue of fire, which is the second Death. Is this because the first Death was by water for the evil people? I also believe FIRE is pertaining to Nuclear Fire, for we are, in the near future heading this way. With the advancements of the Electronic age, the whole World is now engaged in Serious EVIL everywhere. Destruction from this age will kill all life, good and evil!
  • Red letter verses in the red letter Bible - in Reply on Revelation 2:1
    All the red letters are the words of Jesus.

    He had been crucified and then resurrected to life again, before the Book of Revelation. That's why the Book of Acts and Revelation have those red letters. Jesus is alive.

    Nobody can dispute with the red letters.

    All the Apostles (disciples Jesus traveled with) knew they would be killed eventually.

    Except Apostle John. They dumped him on a little island to die alone. But first he wrote the Book of Revelation. :D

    When I was a new Christian, I would touch the red letters as I read them. Funny huh?

    Explore the website. Find the Commentary box by typing in a scripture in the top SEARCH BOX. Tap it to make it turn yellow. Scroll down.

    Read some from the Testimonies Link on the red page.
  • Red letter verses in the red letter Bible - in Reply on Revelation 2:1
    All the red letters are the words of Jesus.

    He had been crucified and then resurrected to life again, before the Book of Revelation. That's why the Book of Acts and Revelation have those red letters. Jesus is alive.

    Nobody can dispute with the red letters.

    All the Apostles (disciples Jesus traveled with) knew they would be killed eventually.

    Except Apostle John. They dumped him on a little island to die alone. But first he wrote the Book of Revelation. :D

    When I was a new Christian, I would touch the red letters as I read them. Funny huh?

    Explore the website. Find the Commentary box by typing in a scripture in the top SEARCH BOX. Tap it to make it turn yellow. Scroll down.

    Read some from the Testimonies Link on the red page.
  • Cara - in Reply on Revelation 2:1
    Red-Letter (Rubricated) Edition Bibles

    Louis "Klopsch published the first modern red letter edition New Testament later in 1899. The first modern, fully rubricated bible was published in 1901."1 According to Wikipedia,2

    Because the original texts of the Sacred Scriptures do not have quotation marks, which words exactly are Dominical has been interpreted, as opposed to explanatory text that follows them.

    While some red-letter edition bibles have Revelation 21:5-6 rubricated, others do not. In fact, Klopsch's own edition published in 1901 did not have these verses rubricated:

    Louis Klopsch Red Letter Bible, Revelation 21:5-6

    Book of Revelation

    In the Book of Revelation, the author consistently refers to God the Father as "He who sits on the throne."3 The living creatures give thanks to "Him who sits on the throne."4 John sees a book in the right hand of "Him who sits on the throne."5 He then sees the Lord Jesus Christ-"the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David"-come to open the book.6 Then, "he came and took the book out of the right hand of Him who sits upon the throne."7 In Revelation 5:13, "Him who sits upon the throne" is distinguished from "the Lamb."8

    13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. KJV, 1769

    It is likely that Revelation 21:5-6 is spoken by God the Father since the author mentions "the Lamb" elsewhere in the chapter,9 and the author continues to distinguish between God the Father and the Lamb.10 One verse later in Revelation 21:7, the subject (speaker) states, "He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 2:1
    Not all Bibles have red letters. I just like my study Bibles to have them.

    I'm more focused on when people try to delete scriptures.

    Revelation 22:18-19
  • Bryan Kreischer on Revelation 2
    why or how can jesus LIE!!&be god too!?!?!
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 2
    Jesus is God's Son, holy & without sin. He can never lie because lying & all sin comes from a sinful heart & a corrupt nature. And Jesus, even after examination & condemnation by sinful men, was found to be Perfect & Holy, without any sin. So, if you're thinking of something that you've read, then please give us your reference so we can consider it & clarify it.
  • Flora pope - in Reply on Revelation 2:10
    Ephesus and Sardis
  • Danny Hundley on Revelation 2
    About how many people are going the heaven and hell
  • Sherrie L Hinson on Revelation 2
    A lady from my church was telling me today that there are 3 heavens mentioned in the Bible and she said I could find it in Revelations. Could you please tell me what chapter this is in so I may read about this for myself?

    Thanks for your help,

    Sherrie Hinson
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 2
    Sherrie, I'm not sure whether this lady was thinking of one verse in Revelation that showed three heavens or whether in many verses you could find them. There are many verses about heaven in Revelation & in the Bible, but I've picked out some that show 4 heavens in Revelation.

    a. Heaven, the abode of God & His Holy Angels: Revelation 4:2: "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in HEAVEN, and one sat on the throne".

    b. Heaven, the universe that contains the worlds (the planets, stars & constellations): Revelation 6:13: "And the stars of HEAVEN fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind."

    c. Heaven, the sky that has our atmosphere & clouds: Revelation 11:6: "These have power to shut HEAVEN, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will."

    d. Heaven, that God re-creates in the future that will be totally new, where wickedness will have no more access (i.e. after Satan is locked away for good): Revelation 21:1: "And I saw a new HEAVEN and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea."
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 2
    Go on YouTube and listen to this song: The Third Heaven. By Carman.

    You'll cry.
  • Andy G van den Berg on Revelation 2:10
    If you should decide to start your journey of Repentance and turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God (Acts 26:18), we strongly suggest that you start by disposing of your collection of worldly books (Acts 19:18,19), containing strictly worldly wisdom that is after the wisdom of men but not after God (1 Corinthians 2:4-7), and that has you in such terrible bondage.

    Seek, and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7).

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nov Scotia, Canada
  • William M Patterson on Revelation 2:10
    hello, so in verse 17 where it reads "and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written"

    does that mean we are given a new name?

    or what is the new name he's referring too?
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Revelation 2:10
    Revelation 2:7-17

    Isaiah 62:2

    Genesis 17:1-5

    Genesis 25 - 32: 32:28



    May the HOLY SPIRIT lead you in all truth & guidance.
  • Elijah Wiaka on Revelation 2:10
    God bless you all.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 2:10
    Welcome Elijah. I like your name.
  • Andy G van den Berg on Revelation 25 on Revelation 2:10
    The Word of God is God (John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation (2 Peter 1:20).

    The word 'Repent' in different forms (repent, repentance, repented, repentest, repenteth, repenting, repentings) is mentioned 110 times in the KJV, and means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. The word 'repent' used in the New Testament was translateed from the Greek word "metanoeo", and means to change, transform, to think differently or reconsider.

    It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God (Acts 26:18).

    For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived (Revelation 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive (Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

    You need not that any man teach you (Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Galatians 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Revelation 12:9).

    It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ (Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Galatians 1:16; Ephesians 3:3,5; Revelation 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world (1 John 5:4; Revelation 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived (Revelation 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it (Matthew 7:14).

    Luke 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH
  • Hazel Carty on Revelation 2:10
    rescue the perishing care for the ding he snatch us with in pity from sin unto grace

    by faith we have made hole put your trust in God,
  • Olivia on Revelation 2:10
    Chris, so your saying to not retaliate when they take us and our children out of our homes? Just let them take us?
  • Jacolby Bonez - in Reply on Revelation 2:10
    Did you hear the reviews from that chito Mexican gang about the word of God SPOKEN with Authority and a spice of grace over at 12 stones CHURCH a while back? Classic.
  • Olivia - in Reply on Revelation 2:10
    No i haven't. But what does that have to do with the question I asked?
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 2:10
    Chito or Cheeto?

    I like chili cheese fritoes
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 2:10
    Olivia, I believe you're referring to a comment initiated by Maryann a couple of months ago. If that is the case, I was addressing the matter of non-violence & non-retaliation, as prescribed in God's Word. Take time to read the following Scriptures: Matthew 5:38-44; Luke 6:27-38; and Romans 12:14-21.

    So, these portions of Scripture tell us how Christians are to behave or respond when trouble comes our way. However, we should do all in our power to protect ourselves, our children & our property from wicked perpetrators. But what the Bible teaches is that we must not go on the attack, or repay evil with evil, or in any way do what Christ would not do. The only ones empowered by God to pronounce judgement & give out a penalty is the government. Often even they don't administer it correctly, but that is another matter.

    Maybe your question is: "then how can we protect ourselves?" Are we talking about the authorities under instruction from an anti-Christian govt. coming to take you & your children because of your faith? Then I doubt neither you nor I could do much at all given their position & strength. We need to submit & trust God for the outcome. Or else, what would be your plans to oppose them? Using a gun? How far would that get you against the police or army?

    But if you're thinking of a criminal breaking into your house or accosting you on the street, then you are authorized by law to protect yourself, but restricted by the amount of force used. Then again, how does one know what crime is intended to be committed? Does any of this help you, or have I missed your point?
  • Olivia - in Reply on Revelation 2:10
    I don't want to go back and forth Chris. I'm sorry. I'm just trying to understand and make it make sense. If they break down your door and say they are taking you and family because you guys refused to take the "vaccine" chip and then they take you to a fema camp then kill you and your family then what? When you possibly could've avoided it by fighting back?..... its crazy I know but I need most is God and to protect my babies.!
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 2:10
    "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

    Pray this prayer with sincerity of heart

    "Dear God, I believe in you and that your Son, Jesus Christ, is Lord. I believe in His sacrifice for my sins and His resurrection from the dead. I repent and ask forgiveness for my sins and I'm deciding now to follow you. Please, come into my life through the gift of your Holy Spirit. It is in the Lord Jesus' name that I ask and receive, Amen."

    The Bible says doing these things with sincerity means you are a Christian (Christ follower) and will have eternal life in heaven.

    "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13

    (Use caution in trusting your feelings, as feelings change. Stand on God's promises- they never change.)


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