Revelation Chapter 17 Discussion Page 9



 
  • Edward on Revelation 17:9 - 12 years ago
    Look at the woman (a woman is a church in prophecy) This woman sits on seven mtns. So it must mean that this is a place. So this church sits upon these mtns. The City of the seven hills. There is only one place this can be refering to Vatican. Vatican is called the city of teh seven hills. Vatican is the Roman Catholic Church. Gods people who are wise will reserch this out and will know. Gods blessing upon your study.
  • Dann rivera on Revelation 17 - 12 years ago
    Revelation 17:8-11 "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains (hills), on which the woman sitteth. And there were seven kings: five have fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth to perdition."

    The Papal persecution ceased in 1798, when Napoleon Bonapart sent to Rome, exiled Pope Pius VI to Valence in France. At the same time Berthier declared an end the temporal power over much of Europe that the Catholic Church had enjoyed up to that time. It was a humiliating and abrupt end to the long rule that lasted 1260 years.

    On February 11, 1929, the Lateran Accords were signed in Rome at the Lateran Palace by Cardinal Gasparri, representing Pope Pius XI, and Mussolini, representing King Victor Emmanuel.

    Highlights of the 1929 Lateran Treaty between Italy and the Catholic Churh of Rome:

    1. The Italian State recognizd the sovereignty of the Catholic Church, and regarded the Church as an independent member of the International Community. By this agreement the Church obtained an independent state in Rome with an area of about 44 hectares.

    2. The Italian State recognized the Roman Catholic Churh as an official religion, and the Catholic Church recognized the independent kingdom of Italy.

    3. All anti-cleric laws passed by Italian Parliament since 1870 were annulled and made void.

    What the Roman Catholic Church got in 1929 was its independence and sovereignty. The Pope now as not only the supreme head of the Catholic Church universally, but also the indisputable temporal king over the state of Vatican City.

    So who are the seven Kings/Popes?

    1st - Pius XI - Feb. 11, 1929 to Feb. 10, 1939
    2nd - Pius XII - Mar. 2, 1939 to Oct. 9, 1958
    3rd - John XXIII - Oct. 28, 1058 to Jun. 3, 1963
    4th - Paul VI - Jun. 21, 1963 to Aug. 6, 1978
    5th - John Paul I - Aug. 26, 1978 to Sep. 28, 1978
    6th - John Paul II - Aug. 16, 1978 to Apr. 2, 2005
    7th - Benedict XVI - April 19, 2005 to Apr. _, 2013

    "...five have fallen, and one is" - the 6th King/Pope - John Paul II.
    "... the other one has not yet come" - 7th King/Pope - Benedict XVI, "...and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." "And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven." It was not coincidental that John was taken to the time of the 6th King/Pope. It is a divine hint by which God is guiding us to focus out attention on this particular King/Pope, as he plays a very important role in the end-time events.

    From this we can conclude that only one more King/Pope will come after Benedict XVI, and he will be the eighth. And this King/Pope, the Devil impersonating John Paul II, will restore the Beast status to the Roman Catholic Church - for during his reign persecution of GOD's people will resume again just as it was in the Middle (Dark) Ages. The beginning of the 3-1/2 days/years - 1260 days of GREAT TRIBULATION.
  • Susan Dalton on Revelation 17:6 - 12 years ago
    "And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration." ( Revelation 17:6)

    We drink the blood of Jesus, and the woman drinks ours.
  • Garyloyd on Revelation 17 - 12 years ago
    How many continents are in the world. I mean in all the world. I think 7. Just to remind you of the truth so you don't pick on the CEO of Rome and other popes of the world.
  • Melzar daniels on Revelation 17 - 12 years ago
    verse 6: In one breath John writes that the whore is drunken with blood and he wondered with great ADMIRATION. You must remember not so many years ago Jesus was asking him to DRINK HIS BLOOD. If this verse is about somebody actually killing martyrs then John surely would not admire them. This passage is about an entity that similar to the communion drinks the blood of the martyrs. Just as the usa is filled with Christianity so called and seemingly is to be admired, but in reality just like the whore is materialistic and hypocritical.

    Some interpreters of end-time prophecy see some kind of partnership with the whore and the beast but this chapter shows NO partnership at all. 1. The 10 horns of the beast hate the whore. When a rodeo bull rider gets on a bull do you see a partnership? The beast doesn't want the whore to reign it here and there, the beast wants to buck her off and eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

    My vote is that the usa = babylon the great=whore

    Only fairly recently has the usa taken over Iraq including ancient babylon, so in a way the usa president is also the king of babylon and is physically babylon the great, the mightiest superpower of the earth in the end-times, greater even than ancient Babylon the head of gold of Daniel 2.
  • Charity on Revelation 17 - 12 years ago
    Well it's common knowledge that the Vatican sits on seven mountains and they definitely fit the bill with having the blood of the saints with the papal inquisitions when they slaughtered so many true believers. The Vatican didn't actually become a kingdom until the 1929 Lateran treaty, so you can start counting the first king from then on leaving us with the current. pope as #7. He will continue a short time and when looking at how pope John Paul ll was buried (quite satanic) and unlike previous popes then l believe he will be the one that "appears" to come back to life, goes into perdition, but of course it will be the false prophet himself. So many people loved pope John Paul 2! The whore is definitely the catholic Vatican. They actually have a webcam on his tomb by the way! Hmm, what's that all about? Vaticanstate.va website!
  • Bekah on Revelation 17 - 12 years ago
    THE GREAT WHORE IS THE VATICAN AKA ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.
  • G.Newman on Revelation 17 - 12 years ago
    7 continents. The world. This chapter explains a lot of symbolism. The waters and sea is people. The whore rises out of the people. The evil supernatual kings hate everything. I think their all a bunch of supernatural politicians cutting each others throats just like we have today and we will never hear of their evil deeds to each others power take overs between themselves. But two witnesses come and we want to listen to the two that the world hates and calls them crazy that for sure and when satan has them killed in the streets and the world parties because of their deaths we will know that the True Lord Jesus is coming to crush satans head who is acting as "instead of Jesus" for sitting on Our Lords Throne. Jesus returns as a Lion with a rod of iron not as a lamb. Satan comes as a lamb but is a dragon/wolf. Looks like a lamb but speaks as a dragon. Because he is the dragon.
  • ReadItALL on Revelation 17:11 - 12 years ago
    Be careful not to take this single scripture out of context. Read verse 8 ... "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."

    "...Shall ASCEND OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT!"

    This wouldn't be the papacy as many have supposed.
  • Joe on Revelation 17:9 - 13 years ago
    Is it the seven mountain are the seven continents of the world?
  • Garyloyd newman on Revelation 17 - 13 years ago
    Father is explaining symbolism. The vials have been poured out at this point. Confussion reat on the people.verse one the whore is satans one world system. In 2 their intoxicated in it with lies and confussion. These kings of the earth are flesh mortal men. Leaders that are in position of ruling. The first half of the hour of the hour of temptation. First its earth kings and then spiritual super natural kings come with satan, his crew and are put in postion and take control of postions. The antichrist being in controll,the head. Meaning, kings of the earth is soil kings. Mortal kings that controll nations. Antichrist comes claiming to be jesus and brings 10 kings.3. Doing things against the true God. Blasphemy! This political one world system satan sets up a real pretty harlet, idolatry. We are not to place no God before our God and satans playing a roll as antichrist claiming he's a god. This harlet sells herself. Oh! She looks so religious and spiritual,so nice,so sweet and pretty to deceive people people. She`ll steal ur soul. Remember the Word it say Woe to them with child and give suck. Can't remember the exact words but it means nursing along the system of antichrist and being a part of the system and helping it along and working it. Store up some food and pay your bills for 2 and a half months and wait for the true Christ that we love.4 this saying she looks like royalty, so wonderful and her leader can do some mighty things. A royalty of filth. The time was shorten for the Elect because if it would of went on any longer even they might of been deceived. So it is written but we really love Christ and we will wait for the true LORD. Don't want no fake! We are here to take the dragons,kick dragon, not to play with the tail. It is said in the word when passing the tail on the streets and they are so wonderfully happy with their false Christ just say, small talk, like have a nice day,but don't get involved with their system. Remember the 1st commanment. Place nothing in front of God. 5. On the forhead of the beast system. Mystery#3466 look up the word is exhusted strong`s. Bringing into a new religion. Sheep for hell bound. Watch out! Remember Ezekiel 28 satans made of almost the full pattern. 6. Astonishment is the last word not admiration, nothing you can do here at this time.. can't help them out by planting seeds.7 He's gona tells us of the secret religion of this harlet. Cell phone is got to ,Got to take a rest. Talk later.
  • Myra on Revelation 17:11 - 13 years ago
    I never understood this verse before. until now from reading other verses from other bibles. It is so clear to me now. Thank you so much.


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