Revelation Chapter 15 Discussion



 
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 1 year ago
    Response to Revelation 15 (and I assume following passages for God's judgments).

    Hey; what's up? I would say that when we are lifted up; i.e. raptured then the veil will be completely removed so that we are able to see what is now in visible in the spirit realm as well as seeing God Himself and Christ in their full glory without being consumed which we can't do in these mortal fleshly bodies.

    So really; all of Revelation itself is breaking through to that realization-from John's initial vision of heaven where it appears he was taken to view the heavenly creatures and realm as well as what we may call "time travel" where these same spirit beings which were pictured in the Old Testament by Ezekiel and Isaiah continue to minister before God. He was able to see the future and things which MUST happen after these things; that is after the "church age" with the types of church mentioned in the first 2 chapters.

    Simply put; we see the seals opened by Christ Himself; and will be undoubtably able to be made aware of what's going on in the earth (as the prayers of the saints seem to indicate). It appears as we stand there that we will merely see the destruction of the wicked ( Psalm 91:8). As for those on the earth they will by the sixth seal be aware of God and Christ beginning to judge; so in that sense there won't be any more atheists from that point forth; but sadly only Satan worshippers if people aren't worshipping the true God at that point. All the cards will be on the table so to speak.

    Maybe the Lord will give you insight into these things. If He does; one should be aware that the enemy wants to render us ineffective. People want good news not news that Satan is about to come down to earth in the near future. But the Lord allows all these things before His coming; a sort of "clearing house" as it will to evict that usurper the Devil who has assumed rulership since Adam fell and lost some of his privileges.

    That's the way I see it.

    Agape.
  • Gabriella, on Revelation 15 - 1 year ago
    Will people on earth see these things when Jesus comes back, or will this all be in like heaven or something, like where John saw all this? I mean i know im only 12 and thugs might seem like a stupid Question but i really want to know.
  • Kyle Gundert - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 1 year ago
    Amen brother, excellent read. May our eyes be opened Lord to the Beast and May our hearts be open to you Oh glorious God thank you Jesus Bless Us Oh Glorious God in the turbulent times. Amen
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 15 - 1 year ago
    Revelation 15

    This chapter marks what appears to be the Resurrection of the saints of God from the Tribulation which is immediately before the bowl judgments. In that sense surely God's people won't endure the final plagues. This is accentuated by the comment in verse 8; that no man could enter the temple in heaven until the final plagues occurred. There was no more "smoke of the incense of the prayers" mitigating things; and judgment was to be full force.

    It is interesting in verse 5 that the "temple of the tabernacle of the testimony" is mentioned. Certainly; those who gave the testimony to overcome reminds us of Revelation 12:11. We must remember that overcoming any of these things; whether it is the image of the beast (which somehow causes people to be killed ( Rev. 13:15); the mark of the beast and the associated number of his name all takes supernatural strength. Again; we need to remember that ALL whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from before the foundation of the world will worship the Beast ( Rev. 13:8). This shows the destinies of men from before all time were all predestined as WELL as showing Christ was the sacrificial atonement for that group of people ALSO before time began. By default; this means not only are we all sinners and rebels but that literally we would worship Antichrist if he appeared today; and in our hearts Satan is our father ( John 8:44).

    These harsh realities are the only rational approach to show how far sin has damaged this nation and the earth as a whole. Today; much of what involves the lust of the eyes ( 1 John 2:15-17) is virtual reality; minds are controlled with substances (Pharmakeia Rev. 18:23) and people desperately want assurance that life can continue and the party can go on. The danger is when the Lord Himself gives up people to sin ( Romans 1:24). Truly; Isaiah 24:17 describes the fear; pit and snare upon the inhabitants of the earth after He raptures the Bride.
  • Delilah - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 1 year ago
    Oh wow , I didn't realise that , thank you .
  • Luke - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 1 year ago
    Sea of Glass means "purity", mingled with "fire" is a cleansing; for them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over

    his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, standing on the sea of glass, having ... harps of God, WE WIN.

    It's the last plagues the seven angels had filled up with the wrath of God;
  • Giannis - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 1 year ago
    Yes dear Delilah, it says glass mixed with fire in the prototype text. Glass had been invented many centuaries BC and Romans at that ime could manufacture very clean and transparent glassy objects.
  • Delilah - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 1 year ago
    Did glass exist when John was given this Revelation ? I know we have a Greek brother on here , perhaps he could tell us the literal interpretation of the word glass in Revelation .
  • GiGi - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 1 year ago
    Ralph,

    That is actually a funny connection. I remember those disco balls. Glad that was short lived!
  • Ralph on Revelation 15 - 1 year ago
    I am always trying to tie scripture to our earthly life. The sea of glass mingled with fire reminds me of the dance floors of early disco. and there was music of harps...
  • Daniel - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 1 year ago
    Most catholics have manipulated Matthew 16:18 to define their "authority as the 'true' church." They claim that Jesus established a physical church (religion) in Peter and they also claim Peter became the first pope.

    The truth:

    Jesus renames his disciple Peter (Greek petros) and promises to found Messiah's church on "this rock" (Greek petra).We're all petra in a way because Jesus established the building of the body (the church...i.e. "all born again believers") on us because we looked at Christ an said, "You are Christ Jesus (which only the elect believe)."

    Matthew 16:15 says "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."

    Peter's response is the response of all born again and Christ acknowledges that and declares us as His the foundation for building His church here on Earth. Christ didn't come to build religion, he didn't come to build denominations but he came to establish His kingdom in us that are born again.

    Another fallacy in the catholic teaching is that they state Peter was an equal rock to Christ and later became the first pope. Assuming the Roman's had accepted Peter this would sound true...but Peter was crucified upside down by the Romans on his final trip there. They never put Peter on a throne or honored him. As his name was Simon Peter -- there was another Peter in Rome during the time of Peter's matrydom. But that Simon was not a pope either. Most of catholicisms roots come from emperor Constantine. Their first pope would have actually been Linus (d. c. 67 - 80).

    F.Y.I. -- I was raised in the rcc for 19-years and very involved. When I left the catholic church and became involved with ministries in non-denominational ministries...after many years and backbiting; I became born again and realized all the apostasy in catholicism.
  • Ronnette on Revelation 15 - 1 year ago
    Why does the Catholic says "one holy Catholic Church"?

    This is very deceiving church. Catholic is so bothersome and blasphemous. Do they really think they can deceived?

    Catholic use this verse as a deceiving verse for their church existence: Matthew 16:18, which the Catholic erroneously misinterpreted the usage to begin with.

    The following verses clearly says Who is holy. Many church got to stop deceiving people since we are in the last days. When are they going to tell the truth?

    Does anybody here had stood up and told the leader of the church to tell only the truth from God? The true believers knows the work of the devil.

    1 Samuel 2:2 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.

    Revelation 15:4 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 15:5 - 3 years ago
    Rhonda,

    The word BEMA is not found in our English bibles. It is found in the Greek text and it is a word that refers to the judgment seat of Christ, the BEMA seat. This is not the same as the Great White Throne judgment. This is the judgment seat of Christ.

    The phrase "Judgment seat of Christ" is found in a few places in the NT. 2 Corinthians 5:10 is one place. All believers will appear before the BEMA seat of Christ.

    The Bema seat was the platform that the Roman officials would sit on at the Coliseum games as they were meting out judgment. But it's more known for the stand which you come to at the Olympic Games after you run your race to get your prize.

    If you watch the Olympics, the first, second, and third-place athletes, get up on this stand and they give them a medal. And they stand up there and play the anthem of the person that came in first place.

    That is the same as the Bema seat or judgment seat of Christ. It's not the judgment of heaven and hell. We are already assured of heaven in Christ. But we will be judged and that judgment is described for us in 1 Corinthians Chapter 3.
  • Rhonda - In Reply on Revelation 15:5 - 3 years ago
    What is 'BEAMA'? And where is it in the Bible? Thanks!
  • Earl Bowman on Revelation 15 - 3 years ago
    REVELATION 15

    May the Spirit grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS knowledge.

    Revelation is about the kingdom of heaven, CHRIST IN YOU AND YOU IN CHRIST.

    Ephesians 2:15

    Luke 17:21

    Colossians 1:27

    This chapter is a vision of the finished work of the cross.

    Revelation 15:1 ....having the seven last plagues, in them (plagues) is filled up the wrath of God.

    These plagues had to be fulfilled before the kingdom of heaven is possible.

    (vs 2) The sea is symbolic of people ( Revelation 17:15) the fire is symbolic of Christ ( Hebrews 12:29) these have become one with Christ ( John 17:21)( Ephesians 2:15).

    (vs 3-4) The praises to God for their salvation.

    (vs 5) Access to the temple is near. The temple is symbolic of Christ. Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up ( John 2:19)

    (vs 6-7) The wrath of God is now ready to be poured out.

    (vs 8) .....no man is able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels be fulfilled.

    Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him...

    THE WRATH OF GOD WAS POURED OUT ON CHRIST, the last plague being death; now we can enter the temple (CHRIST IN YOU AND YOU IN CHRIST) Christ has become our PASSOVER LAMB, death has passed over us.

    Hebrews 11:5 By FAITH Enoch was TRANSLATED that he should not see death .....

    Colossians 1:13 .... and hath TRANSLATED us into the kingdom of his dear Son
  • Jack Gutknecht on Revelation 15 - 3 years ago
    My reply to Isaiah 1:18

    Jesus Paid it All

    1) I hear the Savior say, "Thy strength indeed is small;

    Child of weakness, watch and pray, Find in Me thine all in all."



    Refrain: Jesus paid it all, All to Him I owe; Sin had left a crimson stain,

    He washed it white as snow.
  • Marlow - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 3 years ago
    Question:

    In the bible it says the world will have one world leader. R we getting close to that time.

    Thank u
  • Gary F Craig - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 3 years ago
    Melinda, so in your opinion, we have already had 7 plagues prior to the Spanish Flu and Covod 19? And if so, would the Spanish Flu and the Covid be 1 and 2 of the coming 7 plagues in Revelation?
  • Melinda - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 3 years ago
    We allready had the more than 5 plagues first. On was it frogs or locus or both
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Revelation 15:8 - 3 years ago
    Kevin, may the Holy Spirit grace you with (spiritual) understanding and (spiritual) wisdom.

    1 Corinthians 15:45 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

    Revelation 11:15...... The kingdoms or this world (natural and can be seen with natural eyes) are become the kingdoms of the Lords (spiritual and not seen with natural eyes).......

    Revelation is symbolic and can not be discerned with natural eyes, but the Holy Spirit has to grace you with spiritual eyes. Ask and you shall receive.

    Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God......

    1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God DWELLETH in you?

    John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up (21) but he spake of the temple of his body.

    1 Corinthians 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ......

    Revelation 15:8 And the temple (you and the Holy Ghost, which is Christ in Spirit) was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues were fulfilled.

    Since all mankind was given access to the Holy Ghost at pentecost; therefore, the plagues were pour out before pentecost. Most of mankind is looking through natural eyes; therefore, they think they will be able to see these plagues, but the plagues being carried out are in the spiritual form and can't be seen with natural eyes, but the same results will occur on those they are imposed on.

    You have to become well acquainted with the prophecies to even begin to understand Revelation and if the Holy Ghost is not guiding you it is impossible to understand. Ask and you shall receive.

    There are many more details and many more scriptures that clarify Revelation 15, but not near enough spare to share in 2000 words.

    The Spirit grace you with eyes to see.
  • Kevin on Revelation 15:8 - 3 years ago
    why did the Holy Spirit deem it important to show us the tabernacle in heaven being filled with the glory of God just before the final judgements are poured out upon the rarth
  • Chris - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 3 years ago
    It's my opinion that the reference to plagues in Revelation 15 & 16 cannot be found in the various plagues that have afflicted humans over the ages (& there have certainly been many). Looking at the word in Greek, 'plague' (plege; pr. play-gay), means a 'blow, wound, affliction, plague', & not necessarily as how we understand the word or the inference we place on it.

    In Revelation, we are told about the seven angels with their seven vials & that they empty out their vials in succession, causing a great sore on those who received the Mark & worshipped the beast. The succeeding vials contained that which rendered the sea useless for life, then upon the rivers & streams, the constant burning heat of the sun, utter darkness, drying up of the Euphrates to open the way for the eastern nations to move westward, & finally the great earthquake & hailstorm.

    I can't correlate any of these occurrences to what has taken place on Earth thus far affecting mankind, as they appear quite distinct in nature & affecting the coming Anti-Christ & those who follow him. And these, by virtue of their description, would indicate that the whole world will be afflicted by these 'plagues', which then gives support that those who have placed their trust in Jesus for salvation will not be around to experience this, which is otherwise called the Wrath of God poured out upon wickedness. Therefore, it's my understanding that the plagues that the world has experienced thus far are those that are part & parcel of the evils that come upon us because we are sinful people living in a sin affected world; but that which is to come will be different & coming in rapid succession as a result of God's Anger against the Devil incarnate & his followers.
  • Gary F Craig on Revelation 15 - 3 years ago
    Revelation 15:1 references ..."the seven last plagues...". If the Spanish Flu of 1918 was the first plague, and the Corona Virus is the second plague-does that mean we have 5 more plagues before the Armageddon and the 2nd coming of Christ?

    What are the current opinions of Biblical scholars on this?
  • Margaret Davis on Revelation 15 - 3 years ago
    Have one, but have to get a new one. The binding came lose on it
  • Jesus as High Priest John 20 - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 3 years ago
    Jesus told her that she could not touch him because He had not yet ascended to his Father. Shortly after, when all the disciples were together, Christ appeared to them resurrected! Thomas was absent from this gathering. Later, when the disciples reported to Thomas that they had seen Jesus alive, he understandably responded with skepticism. Eight days later, Jesus unexpectedly appeared again to the gathered disciples and challenged Thomas to touch him by placing his hands into the holes that remained in his body. The obvious question is this: why did Jesus deny Mary, but later encourage Thomas to touch Him?

    In order to understand Jesus' very different instructions to Mary and Thomas, we need to understand the purity requirements for the Jewish High Priest on the Day of Atonement. The High Priest was forbidden to come into contact with anything that was ceremonially unclean in order to avoid being disqualified to enter God's presence the following day. So much depended on this ritual purity!

    After His resurrection, Jesus (as our High Priest) would shortly be ministering in the heavenly tabernacle ( Heb. 9:11). It is significant that Jesus appeared to the disciples and told Thomas to touch him after eight days, because it takes seven days to ordain a priest ( Ex. 29:35).

    The most-likely reason for Jesus' instructions to Mary had to do with the fact that He was determined to enter the heavenly tabernacle in a ready-to-serve, consecrated state. Defilement would not be a sin, but it would have disqualified Him (for a period of time) from entering God's presence. By the time Jesus met Thomas, His priestly work is done. He had returned from completing His duties and possible defilement was no longer an issue. His role as King was yet to be realized at the time of the ascension. He first needed to be ordained a priest and carry out His dutiesin the heavenly tabernacle! Nothing could be permitted to stand in the way of his mission.

    Mishael
  • Hugo Zyl - In Reply on Revelation 15 - 3 years ago
    God bless you Rhonda

    After Jesus rose from the dead He went to Heaven to offer Himself as the sacrifice for sin on the Altar before the Father. At that time He could not be touched because the sacrificial lamb had to be pure and not handled with unclean hands.

    After Jesus offered Himself He returned to the earth dimension and spend time with the believers for about 40 days. At that time He was touched frequently. After that He ascended into Heaven and have not walked on the earth since then.

    Peace and love in Christ
  • Rhonda Newsome on Revelation 15 - 3 years ago
    why did Jesus say to Mary, after he had risen from the grave. "do not touch me for I have not ascended to the father"
  • Eluid on Revelation 15:2 - 3 years ago
    You people have it wrong

    Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

    As I witnessed the glass tower full of people, in an inferno of fire, the jihadist had gotten a terror attack over President George W Bush, over President George H Bush, and over President Ronald Wilson Reagan, and President George W Bush morning and praying to GOD
  • Andy G van den Berg on Revelation 15:5 - 3 years ago
    ON CALIFORNIA WILDFIRES

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    It should be noted that in over 36 years of service we have never collected/received, solicited or requested donations. The gift of 'Life' was freely given and freely do we give to all those that believe ( 2 Kings 5:16; Matthew 6:26; 10:8).

    Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
  • Andy G van den Berg on Revelation 15:5 - 3 years ago
    We wish you well in your search for the true and living God ( John 10:3,16).

    Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada


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