Revelation Chapter 13 Discussion Page 5



 
  • GRACEambassador ChrisE - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Deana, precious friend, The LORD would have us not to worry. We are still in God's

    "Age Of GRACE!" We, who believe In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, His Death, Burial,

    And Resurrection, for the forgiveness of all of our sins, have a "Heavenly Hope!"

    ( 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) and ( 1 Corinthians 15:51-57). Also, we "are NOT

    appointed to wrath!" ( 1 Thessalonians 5:9-11) and ( 1 Thessalonians 1:10).

    COMFORT! Amen?

    Thus, The Body Of CHRIST Will Depart from the earth, To Judgment In Heaven,

    Before the Great Tribulation Of Israel and the nations begins, on the earth.

    The man of Sin, son of Perdition does NOT appear, and his "mark" does

    NOT exist, until After we are gone.

    Please be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified In:

    Romans - Philemon = God's GRACE/PEACE Love Letters Directly TO us,

    Today, For: Consolation, Comfort, Edification, Enjoyment, Encouragement,

    And spiritual Building Up Of All The BLOOD-Washed "members { saints!" }

    In The Body Of CHRIST!, HIS Church, Seated In Heaven! Amen?

    Please start here, But remember: "ALL Scripture is Profitable for learning!"

    ( 2 Timothy 3:16-17)

    To The Praise And Glory Of HIS GRACE!!
  • Chris Holt - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    The Bible is true, and it is certain that the mark of the beast is not the vaccine, nor is it the testing for C19.

    The Bible tells us that the mark of the beast will be received willingly, but the vast majority who will receive it, will know nothing about it until it is too late.

    In Revelation 18:23 we find the following text which is referring to modern day Babylon.

    "for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived."

    This word "sorceries" is strongs G5331 "pharmakeia" which is where the English word pharmacy has its roots.

    The Biblical meaning in a nutshell, is the use or the administering of drugs.

    There can be no doubt that the use and administering of drugs is one of the means by which the serpent uses to deceive "all nations."

    And by this text we can know for sure that all the nations will be deceived into receiving the mark of the beast, but it is not the mark of the beast in and of itself.

    We know this because the mark of the beast is determined by whom we worship.

    The controversy which began in heaven was between Christ and Satan, and it is over the worship that rightfully belongs to Christ; it is that which Satan covets. The one thing that Satan desired from Christ when He came to the earth was His worship; and Satan was prepared to give everything for it. Matthew 4:8-9 proves this point, as does the following.

    "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation."[ Rev. 14:9, 10.] See also Revelation 13:15.

    And so it is by worshipping the beast that we give homage to the god of this world, and in so doing we will receive his mark.

    Our attention therefore, should be upon receiving the mark or the seal of the living God, for if we have His seal, then we shall never receive the mark of the beast.
  • Fred - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    It should become clear that America is at a lose of her sovereignty, but has lost in the midst of a pandemic the ability to preach the Good news! I remember Christ words when He said He is coming. Is he coming for you? At no other time could I more persuasive then to say look up your redemption draws nigh! These days are upon us. Rejoice ,I say, Rejoice!
  • Glenn - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    At the 9th hour , ( 3 pm ). He gave up the spirit, meaning he had passed away, at that exact time , the curtain on the holy of holy's , was rent , top to bottom, Gods way of saying, All may enter ,.. you need no flesh man , to speak to our Heavenly Father,.. the 10 tribes went over the caucus mountains, settled Europe, an then later the Canadians, an Americas ,.. we all are Gods children, we all can an do sin , an we all will have the right to enter Gods kingdom, ( eventually) how quick, will depend on your actions upon the arrival of the 6 trump , worship him , an you'll be waiting another day ,.. an what's a day in our spiritual lives ? 2nd Peter chapter 3 vs 8 - 10 ,.. " one day with lord is of a thousand years of man "
  • Glenn - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Hi deana ,.. If I may , with a companion Bible, or a king James an Dr. Strongs concordance, you can read a better understand,.. revelation 13 vs 16 is the " right hand" meaning that you are supporting this man and working with him, " foreheads" meaning thoughts in your mind. Remember, he is a spiritual man, not flesh an blood , go back to 13 vs 13 an it tells you the great power he has , an it will amaze everyone, an this will be a such a show it will deceive many ,.. an he will not be literally killing flesh men or women, it's spiritual death , meaning you worshiped him , so wen the real Jesus comes , you'll be on the outside looking in during the millennium,.. an that's not a place you wanna be !!!
  • Dianne - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Hi Henry in your beginning reply to Rev. 13: 16 just something to think about all sin is broken fellowship with God. Ephesians 2:5 we were all born in sin, i.e. no fellowship with God which was fixed by Jesus Christ. That's all mankind going back to adam first time mentioned going back to Gen.4:7 before the murder of abel by Caln. Also Romans 5:8-14 for your consideration. God Bless.
  • Selena - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Hi, I just want to let you know what the Lord has revealed to me about the vaccine. If you have already taken it please do not condemn yourself for it, as it is not the mark of the beast. The Lord has revealed to me that the m.o.t.b. will be in form of a computer rfid chip in the right hand or a mark on the forehead(likely or possibly being a form of a technological chip as well) Please if you have any worries about it pray to God and ask him. James 1:5 says "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him." Ask God in Faith in Jesus Christ, nothing wavering and He will give you Wisdom from above. I hope this helps, May God bless you!
  • Henry - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    If you are not an Israelite you can not sin as the laws were not given to you, neither can you enter the kingdom of Heaven. It's only for the House of Israel, 12 tribes. I am happy to show you in the scriptures

    1 John 3:4 whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is transgression of the law.

    Moses gave the commandments to the Israelites when they came out of Egypt: the house of bondage. No other nation have been given the laws. You can't break laws you were never given.

    Psalm 147:19 He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel.

    Psalm 147:20 He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.

    Revelation 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

    Above this scripture describes the

    outer perimeter of the kingdom as seen in a vision by John the Revelator. 12 gates for twelve tribes guarded by twelve angels.

    Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    Read John 8:32 Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
  • BRENDA Bailey - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Please relax, God has you in his hands and you are going to heaven. I did not want to do the Vaccination for several reasons, the Mark of Beast, Government, e are protected by his blood.. God is not going to hold us accountable. He will not punish us for what we do not know.
  • Sam Surf - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Glenn,

    He most certainly will not do as you say, he will do as he pleases in every stronghold. He makes deals with no one.

    He already has shown his hand, everybody loves him, but you are looking in the wrong direction. How do you expect to identify him, I mean, these are the end-times and you should be able to match up what the prophets say to what we see. Do you know what anti-christ's characteristics are, besides the Hollywood banter you provide?

    No one knows who antichrist is until he strikes. No one will know who he is until he places the abomination of desolation. 1/3rd of mankind dies that day. Jesus comes like a thief, with our enemies to lay the land desolate. Somebody has to be Babylon, and somebody has to be the beast. It's that simple.
  • Derek - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    After reading Revelation 13:17 I can see how the current situation is eerily similar. Leftists in DC are pushing for vaccine passports so only those with the vaccine can buy or sell. The only thing is it's not a mark in the right hand or forehead like it says in verse 16 (unless I'm missing something). And verse 18 says 666 is a number of a man- maybe only 1 specific person- maybe 1 specific anti-Christ that is pushing for everyone to get the mark?
  • Glenn - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    That's the misconception,.. he doesn't come with horns an a red suit an tail , an go on a killing spree my fren,.. he's Jesus,.. he'll be so nice an friendly, a chicken in every pot , an I'll pay all your bills , all you need to do is worship ME !!! He's so good , even the election, are amazed,..
  • Fred - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    God has given man a free will. No one can take it away. We are responsible for our own decisions, likewise being deceived into worshiping an image from a vaccine is not valid! You must except the anti Christ willingly, He cannot just take you away! Intimidation is another one of His means to an end. He is always trying to deceive people into thinking "its Gods fault." That our sinful situation is because of Him.
  • Fred - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Nebuchadnezzar gave Danial and his three friends a choice! Of course they chose not to worship the Image! In our case we have not been given a choice to worship an Image, if a vaccine means you are automatically serving an Image! The time will come when we need to buy and sell. It will then become apparent if indeed what you say is true. It will be at that time you will be given a choice. How that will happen we do not Know! It will be at that time you will either except or reject the image of The anti Christ. These things that are happening are the testing times to see how this evil one will come and when? This generation or the next. Remember what Jesus said ,"this generation shall not pass till all things be fulfilled." The spirit of anti Christ has been alive from the beginning, He is always testing the faith of man! Jesus says "Watch for you and I do not know when that day will be, not even the angels in heaven!
  • Sam Surf - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Deana,

    Calling the US govt the beast would only serve as flattery. Even though the US emulates it, they stand in direct opposition to the beast. I wonder what tit for tat we will see from these 2 giants before they open a seal.
  • Johnathan Taylor - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Tent revival? It's going to be the biggest bloodbath ever known to man. The dead will be envied.
  • Glenn - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Negative,.. the mark of the beast, is supporting the anti- Christ wen he is here , an sense he has not come as of yet ,.. an you'll know, it'll be the biggest tent revival this world has ever seen ,..
  • ETERNAL CHOICES and COVID VACCINES - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    I don't think you got the Mark, getting a vaccination. I asked the Lord many years ago about how the mark will be given.

    It's not going to be accidental. You'll be given a choice. The Mark, or Death.

    The Mark guarantees us eternity in hell (at the end).

    So maybe when you were a teenager and thought it would be cool to wear black robes and attend orgies, black mass's, etc.

    Now is a good time to read Isaiah 1:18-20. Only the Blood of Jesus can cleanse that off of you.

    We aren't going to be able to chop off our hands and remove the Mark of the Beast.

    Pride is a sin that the Bible says God hates. Take His Son, Jesus instead. Your reward will be eternal Life. Don't allow Pride to rob you.

    Everyone is going to bow their knee to the NAME OF JESUS. Either it will be with Joy everlasting; or with the pain of eternal Separation.

    Who will you choose?

    Covid shots have nothing to do with this. Just be glad you don't live in Texas with Thousands of people who have Covid, crossing your borders DAILY.

    Why? Because Biden, Beto and Kamala hate Our Governor and Jesus Christ. See guys? We are in the Last Days!

    Figure out what you're gonna do about Jesus, and then DO IT. Now!!
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Amen Fred.

    God bless you.
  • Fred - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    I suppose if what we are experiencing are the beginning of sorrows, the old testament is full of evidence that God is judging us! If repentance comes and a nation or people seeks God, perhaps the days will be lengthened. We have a free will to decide what the future holds, as of right now ,I see little if any of repentance.

    Billy Graham, could fill a stadium and have the place excepting the Lord Jesus! He preached the gospel. The good news. Man is sinful and separated from God! He Must receive the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved from sin and hell! The message we see now is an unthankful people unaware of the condition they are in! These will die in their sin. Yes, man will be judged either here now, or in eternity! O foolish people who hath be witched you! Judging from what I read, and see "it is at the doors". Repent ad be baptized!

    Freedom of speech is dwindling, I think as long as we have this site, this could eventually be our fellowship in the truth! Does your preacher teach the love of Christ? Does he teach the forgiveness of sins through faith in the shed blood. The redemption from sin and hell found in His sacrifice at the cross! Some think they need to fill 40 minutes and will say anything! Real pastors are those that believe the word of God! Studying to show themselves approved before the Lord. We need pastors now more than ever, to preach the gospel, while not judging or condemning. Putting Christ first in all things!
  • Carleton - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Dear Christian, likely Satan is trying in these last days to add doubts amongst those whom profess Christianity. Jesus is the Truth and there are many who want to steal that Truth unto themselves. Keep His peace.

    :)
  • NATIONAL SIN AND THE CURSES - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    I truly believe that this moment in time, is about testing " The waters".

    Very quickly the younger generation United against the older, mostly republican more conservative generation. This move began in the Obama administration. I study generational moves in the Bible. What unites them. In generational curses, each succeeding generation becomes party to advancing curses on the previous and The Next generation. We are in the full bloom of Lev.26 and Deu. curses. Just like Nineveh, without National Repentance, we will see loss and suffering. I talked to some 20-something young people whose only reason for voting was give power to our less reasonable politicians who push agendas.

    By keeping a finger on the Pulse of Matthew 24 and Luke 21, we are able to see on YouTube every day; the advent of all kinds of National Disasters. Just because they aren't happening in the USA does not mean they aren't happening elsewhere. The Bible is full of generations that met the fall of their societies because of refusal to acknowledge and defer to the known Will of God. He's not an old guy who takes numerous naps till bedtime.

    I see the end of all things being a very quick work. The government spoke: shut our churches down, outlawed singing in church and church nativity's, mandated masks, immunization, keep students at home; closed small businesses and laid off those employees; diminished air flights....the list goes on. Now Govt. knows how fast they can shut a nation down. Make us stay home, Force us to get rid of fossil fuel cars, will force us to surrender our guns and more.

    There will come a day when the Govt tells you that in order to get your STIMULUS CHECKS, you will need to get a RFID chip in your hand or forehead.

    In Bible history, the years of curses and famine, resulted in Canabalism of children. Our society no longer reveres the right to conceive and BEAR children.

    READ THAT HISTORY. It's real.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Deana,

    I fully agree with Heidi on this one. Unlike the Covid vaccine, the mark of the beast is not something you can just walk right up to receive. In order to receive the mark, a person must first bow down and worship the beast. You did not bow down and worship anyone when you received the vaccine. So no, that is not the mark of the beast. And as Deanna has said, when you received Christ, His Spirit has sealed your spirit and you now belong to Christ. No one can take you away from Jesus, not even a vaccine!
  • Derek - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    My opinion is it isn't the mark, but I think it's evil to coerce people into taking something that has killed tens of thousands in the US and hundreds of thousands around the world as well as untold risks. Deliberately risking death in order to avoid risking death doesn't make sense. On one hand if you do nothing, you are unlikely to get covid. And even if you do 99.99% survive it, even more so if you're young and take care of your body like God's temple. On the other hand, people are intentionally taking an experimental injection assuming it will protect them, but it isn't in so many cases- many have died- just read the vaers data and prepare to be horrified.

    Not only that, it's an untested injection they are pushing which the pharma companies have made billions. Not only that they make everyone agree legally that you can't sue them. If it's so safe why would they need legal immunity? Not only that, but it doesn't work- people are still getting covid. Not only that, but the vaccinated seem weaker and seem to be dying in much higher rates than unvaccinated. Not only that but those with vax injections have massive side effects- sickness, blood clots, heart problems, mental dysfunction, and who knows what else. Not only that there are safe alternatives that stop the covid virus better than the vaccine- it's just that pharma hired people to lie and do fake studies where they deliberately killed people with overdose in late state and wrote fake studies to discredit it. It saves lives but they banned it in the US and got doctors to believe it's bad. Lawmakers and big pharma then wins, people lose.

    Mostly pray and trust God and do not put your faith in the fearmongering and lies you see in the media.
  • Heidi - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    And I didn't mean to avoid your question, Deana! If you are saved, you have the seal on your forehead, the seal of those who worship the Lamb, Jesus Christ ( Rev 7:3 ; 14:1 )! No, you do not have the mark of the Beast. Please take the time to read these Scripture passages and consider. How wonderful!
  • Heidi - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Wow, what a good and a serious question, Deana. I personally do not believe that the vaccine is a mark of the beast, but I do not feel comfortable about getting, because it has infected so many people. If you have at any time asked Jesus Christ to be your Savior, and to forgive you of your sins; which also means that you realize He died, was buried, and rose again for you, then you are saved! You cannot lose your salvation. The Bible says, "These things have I written unto you THAT BELIEVE ON THE NAME OF THE SON OF GOD, that ye may KNOW THAT YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. You will never lose your salvation. Praise God! No vaccines or any manmade object, fluid, etc. can take away your salvation. You are eternally secure. We as Christians do not believe that it is wrong to get the vaccine. You have freedom of choice. Like I said before, I am not comfortable with getting the vaccines because of health implications. I suggest that you pray about it, and whatever God shows you, do. Be in His Word everyday, and seek Him with all your heart. And if you haven't accepted Him as Savior, I suggest you do so today! Hope this helps. God bless you and guide you!
  • Dianne - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    Deana That biblically cannot be proven and in my observation promotes a lot of fear. God expects us to wise if you felt it was best for you to get the shot that is a personal decision between you and God. I know of christians who got the shot and died and others who didn't and died from covid. Be confy in your own heart with the Father he Knows you best. God Bless.
  • Deana Erickson on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    I have been told that taking the covid 19 vaccinations/shots is all part of the mark of the beast. I am a Christian, I have sin that I have asked God to forgive. I hoping to go to heaven, but as I have taken the shots have I become a part of the mark of the beast? I do believe that our Savior would have let me know I should not take the shots. Can you advise?
  • Bob Milroy on Revelation 13 - 2 years ago
    Re Commentary by Matthew Henry 1710, last half. Consider that he did not have what we have today. We already have the precursor of the mark. It is the number of a man. We use it to buy and sell. It is normally in our right hand. Sometimes it is in our 'forehead' (brain, mind). It currently is 4-4-4-4 today. 16 digits. Will be expanded to 18 digits, enough for every human that ever lived to have his own number. 6 digits followed by 6 digits followed by 6 digits. 123456-654321-773410. They are trying so hard to do away with paper money and go to digital currency. Most people use the precursor every day, by handing it to someone in their right hand or swiping it, and when ordering a pizza on the phone we have the number in our forehead(brain). If you have a better explanation please let me know.

    Think about it.
  • Peter - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 2 years ago
    false, The injection is the mark. The beast is a firefly used in the injection. Firefly is a beast of this earth and as a light bearer, in Latin is "Lucifer. So you have the mark and the name of the beast.


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