Revelation Chapter 10 Discussion



 
  • B - in Reply on Revelation 10
    It's the book that the "Faithful and Wise servant" receives at the end times after Christianity becomes like Judaism had become in Jesus' 1st coming. Then the "faithful and wise servant" goes and prophesies again to the nations, and pulls the faithful out... "Come out of her, my people!"
  • Richard H Priday - in Reply on Revelation 10
    The simple answer is that both concepts hold true. The word "qeber" stands for the body and it's state of sleep i.e. death; so that no more emotions or function of any kind exist after the soul leaves the body. The term "sheol" was the O.T. place where all souls would go after death; now as believers of course we can hold onto the promise "absent from the body present with the Lord."

    It would seem prudent to focus on what dying to self through our life in Christ means to us now. "It is not I who live" and "I am crucified with Christ ( Galatians 2:20) begins when we are "Born Again". We now are in a conflict between the flesh and the Spirit; if truly saved. (see Galatians again in chapter 5; verse 17). Christ has placed His seal; a down payment on our souls; and since Christ is eternal so is our life in Him ( Eph. 1:13-14). The "sanctification" process is a constant realization of what remains of our sinful flesh; as to how vile our affections are and the state of our bodies in this present world. Essentially; once we die we come to the end of that struggle.

    We can look at it this way; eternal life BEGINS when we are saved; and He works from the inside out transforming us. Satan can be expected through his accusations to work as hard as he can to accuse us; distract us back to worldly thoughts; and to trick us in every way. It is in his best interests to render us helpless; to disarm our heavenly armor ( Eph. 6); to use people and situations as well as our own flaws against us; etc. God "chastises everyone He loves." ( Heb. 12:6). A messenger of Satan was allowed to buffet Paul after his great revelations ( 2 Cor. 12:7). Satan also tempted Christ; as well as influenced Peter. We certainly can expect the same; as God will often use this to bring us to our knees. The enemy of our souls always finds the weakest link and takes advantage of it. We are; however currently "seated in heavenly places." ( Eph. 2:4-6).

    Hope this is an encouragement.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 10
    Hi Jag. I don't think we can definitively state what this little book is (as seen in Revelation 10:8-11). My thought is, that when John took this little book, whether it was a real book or if it was a part of his vision he was given, and he ate it up, the result was interesting. It was sweet to the taste (lit. as honey) but became bitter in his stomach.

    The words that John would later preach (after he returned from exile in Patmos), would be the wholesome pure words from God to the people, but its message would bring turmoil to many hearts & minds; to some the prophetic Word would be the cause of light, hope & revival to hearts, but to most others, grief & heartache to the many woes & trials in life that lay before them. However, from what we know of John (from other writings), was that he returned to lead a church in Edessa, modern Turkey, but don't know whether his ministry extended from there. But it seems that the prophetic Word would continue in his ministry, though for us, it ends with this Book of the Revelation.
  • What book is referred to in this chapter. I trust it is The Bible.
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 10:11
    Revelation 10: Concluding thoughts

    Therefore; there is no more holding back judgment (See Jeremiah 15:1 for example). The "plumbline" is drawn ( Amos 7:7-9).

    There is a distinct time frame where God says "enough" and Christ is set free with the righteous angels to procure judgment.

    We see in the following chapters that in fact He uses Satan by giving him what he always wanted; control over the entire world.

    Geographically; he doesn't gain all the territory; but surely with technology and his minions can enforce his mark worldwide through the 10 nations or regional confederacy that rule with him for "one hour". ( Rev. 17:12). It is an interesting sidenote; which I pointed out before about some who fight in the Ezekiel 38 war AGAINST Antichrist. Since one sixth survive it is possible that they did NOT recieve the mark of the Beast and have a chance at surviving into othe Millenium. In Isaiah 49:23 we see kings and queens being "nursing fathers" and mothers as it were (part of that obviously symbolic). In Jeremiah 31:16-17 we see further confirmation of this. This isn't the main point of the passage; but it shows how God may use captivity and even kidnapping to ultimately preserve the lives of children into the Millennium; the alternative being killed in Israel by Antichrist.

    We need to see several larger themes here. God is using all this so that FINALLY as Christ is returning the nation will repent; and that in weeping. (see Zechariah 12:12). It seems hard to believe that the nations get it in regard to Christ and God in the sixth seal; and Israel remains blind that long. Romans 11:25 sheds some light on this; in regard to the "fullness of the Gentiles" which could be indicative of the Church Age ending; complete with the Rapture/Resurrections discussed previously.

    Altogether; He uses Satan's own planning to draw men to the snare and trap of Armageddon where things come to a swift conclusion. No more delay can occur or no flesh would live ( Matt. 24:22
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 10
    Revelation 10

    There is; no doubt an air of mystery (with a literal use of that word in verse 7 explaining the concept of "time no longer" in verse 6.). Given that we still have literal sequential fulfillments to come; surely it doesn't mean that the law of physics related to time and space are no longer in effect. The 1000 year reign to come surely verifies that fact. The most common explanation is that there is no longer any DELAY for these events to happen (see also Habukkuk 2:3).

    The "mystery" here has been explained as the end of the church age; or the Rapture of the Church. I would say that it is better explained as the end of the "firstfruits" that are translated from the earth which actually began with Christ Himself; and a portion that came out of their graves after the Resurrection; those raptured and resurrected before the first seal; the 144,000 and the 2 witnesses. This could include the great multitude martyred who no man can count either. Whether some of these martyrs are lukewarm of the church left behind to be tested doesn't need to be argued here. The basic point is that there are faithful of both the Church Age and after (in the case of the O.T. saints another "dispensation" as it were. It is good not to be too bogged down with dispensational time boundaries; we see those saved by grace throughout history.

    What we do see in the next few chapters is a shift to the religious and political nations and the Antichrist directly. Clearly some are hidden; and make it to the 2nd Coming. Once the 2 Prophets are martyred there is no more room for witnessing; and in fact God uses angels to preach as men are greatly scattered and no doubt barely can speak out against Satan's man as the beheadings ramp way up. God hiding His people in the wilderness shows that flight is the best option; and God's Word backs that up. We also notice once we get to the Bowl judgments that no man is able to enter in the Temple in heaven to pray ( Rev. 15:8)
  • Roman - in Reply on Revelation 10
    Marke,

    The secret to knowing who the saints are is as easy as identifying who the two olive trees, and the two lampstands are. The two prophets/witnesses are described as "the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks that stand before the God of the earth". Olive trees and candlesticks have always been used to describe the house of Israel and the house of Judah. These are the 144,000 from the house of Israel, and the house of Judah, sealed from death for 42 months, at the 6th trumpet. Together, they are the whole house of Israel, witnesses to antichrists' exploits between the 6th & 7th trumpets.



    Zechariah 4:14

    Jeremiah 11:16

    Psalm 52:8
  • GiGi - in Reply on Revelation 10
    Thank you, Adam, for bringing this to the attention of readers. This error seems to come up again and again and, like you, I don't think we should not speak up when someone denies either the divinity or humanity of Jesus.
  • Marke - in Reply on Revelation 10
    I am not following you. Two and 144,000 are not the same numbers.
  • Adam - in Reply on Revelation 10
    Hi Danielle, have you read John 1:1-3? Because what you stated seems contradictory to this.

    You wrote: "He was also created by God"

    KJV says in John 1:1 "Word was God" and John 1:14-15 reveals that the Word is Jesus, because He's exactly the one who came in the flesh that John the baptist bore witness to, which eliminates any possible confusion with anyone else. This absolutely confirms with 100% certainty and no possible misunderstanding that the Word is Jesus, and thus, Jesus is God.

    John 1:2. God didn't create Himself. Jesus didn't create Himself. God the Father didn't create Jesus. Jesus was already there from the beginning and he made all things John 1:3.

    You said to pray for right and wrong, truth and lies, and I agree! I believe these verses in John is the truth and I believe anything said contradictory to God's Word is false. I pray that anyone reading this discussion will know the truth, that the truth of God's Word is made obvious in the hearts of those in this forum.
  • Roman - in Reply on Revelation 10
    Marke,

    The two witnesses are the 144,000 sealed saints from both houses of Israel.

    I challenge you to prove that they are not one and the same.

    On the other hand, Malachi 4:5 is one person, in the order of Elijah, with a separate mission from the saints.
  • Marke - in Reply on Revelation 10
    Elijah is likely one of the two witnesses spoken of in Revelation 11, and Enoch is likely the other. Enoch and Elijah were the only two men who disappeared from the earth without dying in the OT, only to reappear on earth during the tribulation and die there.

    Rev 11

    3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

    4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
  • Roman on Revelation 10
    Revelation 10

    Is that you Elijah?

    vs 1 The angel with his right foot on the sea, and left foot on the earth is Jesus (mirroring the 2 beasts inRevelation 13, rising from sea & earth).

    Revelation 10:5-6And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, 6 Andswareby him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

    vs 5-6 are paradoxical because Jesus says all creation is from God, where Christian's are sworn to saying that Jesus created all. The dichotomy. John 10:30

    vs 7 We are reminded that God has plans to end this age at the 7th trumpet.

    vs 8 Jesus gives the prophet the little book, the Word of God (Bible) to eat.

    vs 9-10 Since it's sweet in his mouth, then bitter in his belly, it must be before the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord, and the terrible judgment to come.

    Revelation 10:11And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

    vs 11 This is a GREATEST prophet, Mat 11:11, whom we were promised. This introduces Elijah's ministry, before the day of the Lord. Elijah is to preach the word of God, salvation, on the backdrop of the day of the Lord, Malachi 4:5
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 10
    Click on the light gray Box that says "view replies".

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  • IHS - in Reply on Revelation 10
    Laura it is another description of satan or the devil.
  • Mishael on Study Options - in Reply on Revelation 10
    If you'll Google those scriptures, you may see artist renderings too.

    Learn how to use the Commentaries on this website. Put the scripture in the SEARCH BOX

    Scroll downward to the COMMENTARY BOX

    you can also Google search.

    "Apollyon, teaching Bible"

    Pick a website to look at out of the first 5 choices. No offense intended, but avoid Catholic or JW websites.
  • Laura Vitola on Revelation 10
    Sorry I meant Revelation 9 Vs. 11 Who was Abaddon, Apollyyon?
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 10:11
    Crystal,

    This would be the apostle John. If you start at verse 8, John says and the voice which I heard from heaven (Taken to be God) spoke unto me (John) again, and said, go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel.

    It is interesting that even the voice from heaven says that this mighty angel is an angel, the one who is standing upon the sea and upon the earth. And then reading through verses 9 through 11, we see that John was told in verse 4 not to write down, and now he's told to start prophesying again.



    As far as this book goes, we see the same book in Ezekiel Chapters 2 and 3. This book is the title deed to the earth. But it is also the word of God. And so John is told to take it and eat it. The word of God is sweet to the taste. But the judgments are hard on the heart and bitter to the belly.

    On a side note, I think it is interesting also that it was always God's intention that God's people eat His word, that the word of God becomes our spiritual food, and that the word of God becomes part of us, that we speak not just from out of the book, but out of our heart.

    We're told to devour it first, not just memorize it and learn it with our minds, but to receive it spiritually and devour it as the word of God. That's always the way it was intended to be. But you see, we've gotten too head-minded, too intellectual, and not spiritual in our approach to the things of Christ. So this angel said prophesy again. And you will do so in front of many people.

    I hope this helps you!
  • Crystal Yates on Revelation 10:11
    What does the little book represent that the angel has? And who takes it and eats it?
  • Larry Hunter on Revelation 10
    This is just an awesome Tool for God. Reading the?Bible Right at your fingertips. I forgot my bible today! Thank you for Allowing Jesus to USE you Guys! Psalm 29.11
  • Walter Wood on Revelation 10:11
    What two things do the seven churches in rev 2 and three have in common ?
  • Pedro - in Reply on Revelation 10:11
    Jesus was a Hebrew. The 1st man to be called Hebrew was Abram ( Genesis 14:13)

    Jesus was Semitic (Shem), with color and tone similar to their Arab cousins

    Today's Jews are Ashkenazi ( Genesis 10:2-3) they are 7th century Khazar converts of Japheth. ( Revelation 2:9)



    ( Genesis 9:27) God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

    Sounds like Canaan will be a slave to his two brothers ( Isaiah 14:1-2)
  • Bro Barney - in Reply on Revelation 10:11
    Jesus IS Jewish. At the time of His presence on the earth, the average Jewish man in Israel could be described as having black hair, olive skin, and shorter than the average American today. He did not stand out of the crowd and would have been considered very common.

    Isa 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

    Of course He looks different today.

    Rev 1:13-15 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

    God bless
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Revelation 10:11
    Hi Jennifer.

    Jesus was Jewish.when he walked down here.

    HERE'S JESUS TALKING TO THE SAMARITAN WOMAN AT THE WELL.

    John 4:22. Ye worship ye know not what: "WE" know what "WE" worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

    GOD BLESS.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Revelation 10:11
    Amen Adam.

    It's such a sad movement, and I agree a bad motive.
  • Adam - in Reply on Revelation 10:11
    Jesus was a middle eastern Jew who walked a lot outside in the sun. Some groups WANT Jesus to be a different skin color though and work very hard to find verses that support their desired skin tone. I don't believe the motivations behind this are sound and I think if Jesus was here in front of us He would condemn that and question their motives. It's as if people are fighting over this trying to score points for their own 'team'. That's opposite of what Jesus taught. Galatians 3:28 God bless...
  • Jennifer Harmon Segina on Revelation 10:11
    What ethnicity is Jesus
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 10
    Fili Chu Ling,

    We don't know what those seven things were because John did not write them down.

    It says, And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write it down: That is, write down what they were saying.

    And I (John) heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.

    So John wasn't allowed to write down what the seven thunders said.

    This also tells us ways in which God works with us. He doesn't tell us everything because we're not ready for everything.

    Jesus told the disciples that there are many things I have to say to you, but you don't understand them now.

    God chooses not to reveal things to us at times because we're just not ready for it. And here's God telling John to seal up that which you heard.
  • Fili Chu Ling on Revelation 10
    could anyone explain the seven things uttered in v4 please
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Revelation 10:11
    Brother Judge, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Revelation 22:10 And he saith unto me, SEAL NOT the prophecy of this BOOK: for the TIME IS AT HAND.

    These words were written 2000 years and THE ANGEL said; the time is at hand, to me that means NOW, not 2000 or more years down the road. Otherwise; the book would have been seal to a latter date as in Daniel's time.

    The BOOK is the REVELATION OF JESUS; everything that happened to him and all that was accomplished by HIS DEATH AND RESURRECTION.

    HIS WORKS that has set us FREE by becoming one with him.


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