Revelation Chapter 1 Discussion Page 8



 
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Brian,

    "One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it." Rom 14:5-6

    "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." Col 2:16-17

    The Sabbath that the Jewish people observed was specifically to give the people AND their work animals a day of rest--no work. There was no instruction to worship on the Sabbath.

    But when Gentiles began to believe in Jesus, the Apostles held a council in Jerusalem to determine if Jewish laws were to be imposed on them. Here's how the Apostles responded...

    "It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth. For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well." Act 15:25-29

    No mention of a Sabbath.

    If you choose to worship on Saturday, I have no problem with that. Most Christians gather on Sunday, the first day of the week in honor and thankful memory of the day the The Lord Jesus Christ arose from the grave. And I'm fine with that or any other day a group of believers choose to assemble.

    We should not forsake the assembling together, whatever day it be.
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Sounds like gathering on the first day ( Acts 20:7) of the week to worship is being confused with observing the Sabbath. These are 2 different things. I think everyday should be a day to worship and honor God. Following Christ as a Christian is a 24/7 lifestyle, not a temporary event once a week. I don't think the specific day people gather is so important. The verse in Acts I don't view as a command, but an example. God bless.
  • Brian - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Where in scripture does it say the Sabbath day was changed to Sunday the 1st day of the week.

    CONSTANTINE was a sun worshipper and the Catholic Church made it permanent.

    NOT SCRIPTURAL.
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Brian,

    Where is your Scripture to support that after Pentecost, Christians were to worship on the last day of the week rather than the first day of the week?
  • Brian on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    The Christian Sabbath is Saturday.

    Not the first day of the week.

    4th Commandment.
  • Mild Bill - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Sheila,

    "I'm in need of learning to pray better " What is lacking in your prayers? I spoke once with a brother in Christ who said

    he didn't know enough of the Bible to pray better. What he meant was, he didn't remember passages verbatim, with book, chapters and verses. As Christ taught us, a prayer is not a repitition of words( Matthew 6:7). Even what the Lord said is disregarded in that some people repeat his words as a prayer itself. Instead Jesus spoke of a manner of prayer, in which he spoke of the matters on his heart. Therein is what God wants to hear from us, the matters on our heart. I hear you saying you do that already, what more would make your prayers better?

    Chuck the "dynamite teacher" has been an encouragement to you and we all have someone who has taught us in the things of God. Their words and mannerisms stick with us as a vital part of our learning. It is great to be on the receiving side of people who have dug out the gems in the mine of God's word. As we grow in grace we should be miners ourselves and in our turn pass on gems, you can and will also. Your prayer for God to touch us with his love and grant us comfort and peace is very much appreciated, thank you sister. I will remember you in prayer also as a dear sister in Christ who prays from her heart.
  • Chris - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Thank you for sharing your wonderful testimony, Sheila. That was so heartening to read, of your very real love for the Lord & your constant engaging with Him throughout your day: morning to night. That speaks to me of a true disciple of Christ who always looks to her Heavenly Father, reaching out to Him in times of both joy & sorrow.

    Be assured that Jesus does know you personally: He laid down His Life for you, gave you a new birth, a new life, a new joy & a new hope. His Peace rules your heart with your 'soul panting (rushing) for the things of the Lord, just as the thirsty deer rushes to the water brooks' ( Psalm 42:1). So Jesus certainly knows you & it's clear, that your entrance into Heaven will be 'abundant'. And you do know Him personally as you study His Word to learn His Word for you & you spend time in conversation with Him. Whenever people feel estranged from the Lord, it's not that the Lord has left them or gotten side-tracked, rather that we have lost our focus because of sin or compromise & He waits longingly for our love & commitment to Him to be restored.

    So sister, keep your eyes fixed on Jesus, Who alone is the Author & Perfecter of your faith, for He indeed endured the Cross for you, in joy.
  • Sheila - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    The Seven churches in Rev. 2 & 3 are exemplary of (a Report Card) of the churches in St. John's time, for God's Plan concerning the affairs of the churches, and flowing outward to the nations and to the churches today and to the end of the world.
  • Sheila - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Tegan ... Amen Amen Amen to "Rod's" response. My focus was on a personal relationship.
  • Sheila on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    I'm sorry I don't know a particular scripture but when I am troubled. or stressed, I go directly in prayer (talk)to my heavenly Father and Jesus. When I want reassurance I read His holy Word and He shows up there. I have been studying, taking Notes, (not just reading) the books of the Bible. Our Father is Real to me and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior and Redeemer. I have a personal relationship with Him. I'm in need of learning to pray better but that does Not stop me from talking to Jesus, off and on, all day. I want Him to know me personally, where as when I get to Heaven I won't feel like a stranger to Him. If I sound like I have it all together, don't be misled, I have my struggles in this life Every day. I only know that Jesus is real to me and I love Jesus and I can hardly wait to meet Him and sit at His feet. I find the Bible to be more interesting than TV now. I have studied so hard and so much I find it difficult to turn the light out and read for half the night. (Retired finally) I also enjoy listening to Chuck Missler on YouTube; he learned to love scriptures at 16 and is a dynamite teacher. Chuck passed a few years back but I enjoy listening to his knowledge of Old and New Testament. It is hard to keep up for he speaks fast; but, I just hit rewind. I pray that Jesus will reach out to you and let you know He is real and Loves you Very much. May God continue to bless you and keep you. May He wrap His loving arms around you and give you Comfort and Peace. .
  • Tegan - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Thank you so much I have learned so much from jobs story and it's helped me a lot thanks
  • Shem - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Job's story can help you out.
  • Steven Spencer - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Tegan, Can you share a little more with us, if you don't mind, I sure you will find help here. Thanks
  • Tegan on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Dose anyone know what chapter I need to read to help me get out of a place where i feel stuck/
  • Tracy Hill - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Thank you my Brother in Christ Jesus
  • Tracy Hill - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Thankyou my Brother in Christ Jesus .
  • Rod - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    The simple answer to your question is repentance and prayer, knowing that only through faith in the Cross and all that it means, do we receive God's grace and mercy. I've been there and done that many times over the years, we've all fallen at one time or another, this is because of our human nature (sin) but I also believe that the Holy Spirit is there through our conscience to comfort us, and convict us when we've gone astray (that guilty feeling) and direct us back to the cross (the narrow road). If somehow we hurt one of our friends and realize our mistake we ask for forgiveness, and if we're genuine in our apology, our true friends will forgive us realizing that we all make mistakes. Throughout the bible we find man falling away from God, as David did with Bathsheba, another man's wife, 2 Samuel 11:3, or Manasseh in 2 Kings 21:14 - 21:17, but through repentance and prayer they again came to know God and all His mercies, and Paul who first persecuted the church became one of the greatest apostles for the church.

    Throughout the NT you will read of Jesus teaching starting with Matthew Chapter 5-7, this is the start of Jesus ministry, the Beatitudes and sermon on the mount.

    Matthew 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

    Matthew 5:6 "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled."

    Matthew 7:7 "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:"
  • Chris - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    For the person who has never come to Christ for salvation, or the one who has drifted away from enjoying the Presence & Plan of God for them, the only place to be found is at the foot of the Cross.

    If you sense that your faith is lukewarm, your life's path has gone off course or the ministry of God's Spirit is all but absent leaving you destitute of joy, assurance & hope, then you need to come back to the Lord. He ever calls - He ever waits for His children to realize how far they have strayed & how close He is to receive them back. Remember the prodigal son story? How the son's father longed for & waited for his son's return ( Luke 15:11-24). What joy the father had to receive his son back as one from the dead. Likewise, God (& all of Heaven) awaits & rejoices when a sinner or one who has strayed away comes back into the fold of Christ.

    Talk freely, openly from your heart to God about where you have failed him. Confess to Him (through the Sacrifice of His Son Jesus) that you have come to a point of total hopelessness & grief for leaving God & you're so sorry to have done this & failed Him. He does hear & understands all you've been through & His Spirit has brought you to this point of realization & confession. "Him (or, her) that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out" is Jesus' Promise for you ( John 6:37). And also "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." ( 1 John 1:9). These are the sure promises from God's Word that He will receive all who come in humility & sincerity before Him.

    After you confess all before God, His Spirit will minister to you, maybe at that instance or in the moments ahead. You will have the joy of sins forgiven & being accepted. You will want to spend more time talking with your Heavenly Father & reading from His Word to learn more of Him & of what He wants from your life. Feed on that "Living Bread" Jesus Christ - give Him first place in everything you do.
  • Elise Hill on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Where does one start over again who has fallen away from the will of God?
  • Greg Kenyon on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Is there a biblical passage that predicts a time "...when the seasons shall become as one..."? It was a favorite quote (or misquote) of my father's but I have never been able to find it.

    Thanks.
  • M - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Yes. I think it's the music played that matters more.
  • Tom Martin on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    Is instruments ok in church
  • Ricky D Mentzer - In Reply on Revelation 1:15 - 3 years ago
    What does this have to do with God's Word, if people would rise up and believe and walk in love mankind wouldn't have problems but because people choose by freedom of Will not to believe we do. Mankind will never get together that's why we were given a Saviour
  • Mild Bill - In Reply on Revelation 1:15 - 3 years ago
    Ditto what Chris said about racial remarks, and I've been here for years. Examples please, because "everyone on here" would include me, and that isn't so.
  • Chris - In Reply on Revelation 1:15 - 3 years ago
    What you have said is very worrying. I've been on this Site for several months now & have yet to read of someone denigrating someone because of race. Certainly, both we & the moderators of this Site would not let that type of remark pass without due warning & condemnation. It would be good if you gave some examples of what is disturbing you, as I certainly can't recall any.
  • OGWEEDO on Revelation 1:15 - 3 years ago
    Everyone on here worried about the race of someone who was, supposedly, ALL LOVING AND ALL CARING is absolutely disgusting. Jesus loved all, not only those of a certain race. Y'all tripping, it's pathetic how, no matter what, we can never come together. Black people, White people, Asian, Hispanic, Native... Inuit... It doesn't matter, we all bleed red. If we came together as one then real change would come about, but nope... Y'all steady set with these rich masters dictating how y'all feel, who you dislike, who you trust... Divide and conquer, if we stay divided no change will ever come about, just like they want.
  • Harry Hughes Spindler on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    The Seven Stars on the alter are the Seven Mighty ELOHIM !
  • Pamela on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    where does it say about the Vaccinations in the book of Revelations
  • Mohan Ram - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    No comments, but would wish to know more
  • Mishael - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 3 years ago
    I apologize as I was following past conflicts into modern day conflicts. It has more continuity when you follow Edom.

    I recently did a study on Abrahams family and did see the rest of Hagars story. She returned to her family's land and never married.

    Abraham did wed again after Sarah's death.


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