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  • Anonymous on Psalms 96:2
    When is Jesus going to come take his children away?
  • Norman Walker Butch on Psalms 96:2
    I have a question that I cannot get a answer to and have been trying for a long time. How could the people see Jesus raise people from the dead, heal people right in front of them that they knew was sick, preform miracles right in front of there faces like raise people from the dead and walk on water. My question is why did people still not believe in him when they saw all this right in front of them and knew for sure he did it because they knew the people for a long long time. If I saw him walk on water and preform a miracle on one of my friends that is all it would take for me to believe in him! So what do you all think? Love you Jesus Amen
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    Norman, I just want to add another point to Adam's very good perception of "people wanting to believe what they want to believe". As we read of Jesus' Life & Ministry, we see that the Jewish religious leaders were never far away. Their sole objective was to discredit Jesus & to also keep the people from following this 'false teacher with strange doctrines & claims'. Not only did they have to protect their understanding of the Law, & of course their added rules & regulations thereby overburdening the people & compelling them to adhere to what they said, but they had to protect their own position & credibility. The matter of God's Word, of Truth or of the witness of Jesus' Life & Work before their eyes had little or no bearing as the other (more important) matters of 'their rules, their hold on people & their position in the eyes of the people' outweighed anything else.

    So when we read of Jesus' full blown accusatory remarks against these "blind leaders of the blind" (Matthew 15:14), He did well to describe them as "whited sepulchres", as "vipers", "hypocrites", "blind guides/fools", etc. This was not said by Jesus as snide remarks as to those who opposed Him, but as if speaking to workers from Satan, "children of the Devil" (John 8:44), who did nothing for the Kingdom of God, but only served Satan, dragging many innocent people with them to hell. If in any group of people, whether in Islam, RC, the cults, etc., where the adherents are bound to their leaders or else face wrath & retribution, ought to be a clear demonstration of the fallacy of such a system & its great departure from the Truth.

    So many began to follow Jesus by what they heard & saw of Him (John 10:40-42), thereby opposing the Pharisaical teachings & no doubt facing their wrath, but also they followed the dictates of their consciences, of what they witnessed & the opening of their eyes by God's Spirit. Christ came to set men free in many more ways than we fully realize.
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    Hi Norman,

    I think if Jesus came today and performed a bunch of miracles people still wouldn't believe. Perhaps even a fewer % today would believe than the % that believed in Jesus's time. We have a society that wants to believe what it wants to believe, not based on what is evident or true. Some believe their arbitrary feelings determine 'my truth,' or that truth is relative.

    Many non-believers have spiritual and supernatural experiences today and that doesn't automatically mean they believe in God. Some even have stories of dying and talking to their dead relatives and coming back to life- some choose to believe after that, but some don't.

    So, I think most do not have an intellectual block to believing, but an emotional block.

    Romans 1:20 says that God's design is so evident that everyone is without excuse to believe. There's nothing that makes our heart beat right now. Only God is keeping us alive. That's God's amazing design, but yeah, others would have you believe that it's likely that a random explosion from nothing which has never been witnessed and can never be recreated created this amazing design with countless advanced features that the smartest minds on earth can't comprehend. It takes more faith to believe in accidental design than in God's intentional design, yet people don't want to believe in God because they are afraid of giving up their lifestyle of sin, so they do mental gymnastics to arrive at their desired belief. This is what I mean by an emotional block.
  • Rod - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    Our Salvation is paid for us through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ on the cross, and all we need to do is repent, and believe, (Faith) and live a Godly life, knowing that when we fail, and we all do, we need to ask for forgiveness in prayer on a daily basis, and also give thanks for all the blessing we also receive on a daily basis.

    In Galatians, chapter 5 Paul explains the fruits of the flesh and the fruits of the Spirit, I pray this helps,

    1 John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

    1 John Chapter 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

    2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

    3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

    4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, [even] our faith.

    Galatians 5:16 "This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh."

    17; "For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would."

    Galatians 5:22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,"

    Galatians 5:23 "Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."
  • Curtis on Psalms 96:2
    Jesus was without sin came to earth sinless and yes had gone through same as mankind!we were born into original sin and continue to sin ..that said if God was made in the flesh like man God could have never sinned?man cannot do that God was able to resist every temptation man cannot so how is it that we were on equal ground up against a sinful man to God who was sinless?how is it he became man when he was sinless we could never do that so God was man except for one thing sinless?so he was not entirely man ???
  • Chad - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    "original sin" is not a Biblical doctrine. We are not born sinners, we are born innocent and choose to sin. There is not one Bible verse that says we are born with a sin nature.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    Chad, may the Spirit grace you with his (spiritual) understanding and his (spiritual) wisdom.

    Romans 8:20 For the creature (creation) was made subject to vanity, not willing, but by reason of him (the creator) who hath subjected the same (creation), in hope.

    Eve sinned because she was created subject to vanity.

    All flesh sins because we were created subject to vanity; but we were also created in hope.

    Romans 8:21 Because the creature (creation) itself shall be delivered (by the creator) from the bondage of corruption into the glorious LIBERTY of the children of God.

    Job 15:14 What is man (flesh), that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?

    Job 25:4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman (flesh)?

    G
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    Psalms 51:5, "Behold, I was SHAPEN IN INIQUITY; and in sin did my mother conceive me."

    Ephesians 2:3, "Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and WERE BY NATURE the children of wrath, even as others."

    In the Psalm, David believes that it was from the womb that iniquity (sin) was what characterized his being. He knew that the sin nature from Adam was passed onto him from that point of conception & it was not from anything he did later in life.

    In Ephesians, Paul speaks of "by nature" we were the children of (God's) Wrath. The Greek for this word is 'phusis' which means: nature, inherent nature, origin, birth. Again, we were already condemned to physical death by having that sin nature, but when sin was made alive by our first act of sin, our only hope of salvation & eternal life rested upon God's Mercy upon fallen man.

    I tried to think of my very first act of sin as a child, given that most of our memories are now mostly absent. I was about 5 yrs of age, my sister, 2 yrs old. She was given a small chocolate bar from our Mother & I wasn't. I didn't have the time or capacity at that age to consider whether I should choose to react in a sinful way or make a concerted effort to resist sin's temptation. I reacted by grabbing it from her causing her to howl. Why did I do that to her? The sin nature in me manifested itself in the most appropriate & prescribed way & will always do no matter our age, except for our wills & the Spirit's help (if we are believers), to either abstain from it or allow it.
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    He was fully man and fully God. Hard to comprehend of course. He seemed to chose not to use God-like qualities except for rare occasions to heal, perform miracles. He could have easily called 10,000 angels to avoid his crucifixion, but didn't. Matthew 26:53 He also fully experienced emotions of man- like stress- sweating blood, etc.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    Curtis, that's a very good observation & comments. This is my take on it: I can see that you understand about man's creation, his sin & that this nature was transmitted to each of his progeny, including us, so will deal less with that.

    So how was Jesus' coming any different? Was Jesus not fully Man? Firstly, in 1 Corinthians 15:45, Paul refers to Jesus as the "last Adam" & even though he was writing in respect to death & resurrection in that passage, that phrase is worth noting & expanding. The coming of Jesus was similar to that of Adam & yet different. Adam was a 'fresh' creation by God from the 'dust of the ground'; Jesus was & is the "Word of God made human". Both the first & last Adams were made by God except for their origins (one earthy, the other spiritual). Both were created perfect & sinless - one however succumbed to Satan's convincing arguments, the Other, withstood Satan by His (Jesus') Own Word, as God's Word.

    When Satan comes to Adam's progeny with the temptation to sin, we provide no resistance to him as the sin nature was transmitted to us all & it becomes a 'given' that we WILL sin. At Jesus' temptation, Satan had to create the sin nature in Him just as he did to Adam, but Jesus withstood him thus being the perfect & fully acceptable Sacrifice for our sins. Indeed, God could have wiped us all out for our disobedience & sin nature within, but in His Love & Mercy, He gave us a way out: His chance for our escape.

    So if Jesus was the only sinless One ever to walk on Earth, was He then entirely Man as we are? His coming in the flesh was through a human agency unlike Adam's creation. Jesus' conception in Mary was from the Seed of God not from the dust of the ground (i.e. a new Adam made in the womb). He was a full human embryo in Mary & brought into the World in the usual way to fulfil the prophecies about His coming & His lineage to David & to Adam. Jesus was perfectly Man in every way (physically, emotionally & spiritually) BUT without sin.
  • Curtis - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    Thank you so much for explaining that for me!I always wondered?ive lead a sinful life but at 8 years old I made a promise to pray to God and have that I can remember?between heroin abuse and alcohol and anything that would get me out of body?but everything I tried many times couldn't stop but I sincerely ran to the lord and been healed of everything I've ever put before him this is abuse in every facet for over 30 years and 3 rehabs but last almost didn't make it!bless and praise Gods name I know how real he is and what he does it's give it to him and forget it!the lord does the rest no question about how long or if he can just total trust!thought I'd share that with you I went to church and bible studies twice Sundays and Wednesday Thursday but I live very rurally and miss Gods people so so much bible says don't forsake the assembly well I know why?big time!so with that I thank you once again and may the lord bless the ministry in abundance!in Gods love Curtis
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    You certainly have been through so much in your life & we can certainly see the Work of God in you to help you in your release from the things that have controlled you. Thank you for that testimony of God's Grace & to know that you're experiencing the Power & Love of God in ways that many fail to experience or even notice.

    He's always there for you & His Spirit within you will ever be your strength, comfort, guide & companion. The Word is there for you & to keep in your heart: "Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not." Jeremiah 33:3. And it's particularly at those lowest times in life, that a 'shout out' to the Lord brings forth His Word of Peace & Comfort (the great & mighty things which the world can never know) but becomes the reason for your joy & strengthening of faith in the One Who gave Himself for you. The Lord bless you & keep you strong in faith & in His Love, Curtis, & write in if you need to - someone's always around to help.
  • Curtis - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    I thank you and glory to God he is faithful and more real than anything I can see!id like if you could pray for my son that God would send him a suitable mate..he had to quit school in 8th grade for social anxiety disorder so the few he meats are definitely unevenly yolked as God says we should be!for good reason?but these two are so lonely there willing to put up with worldly attitudes and ways as opposed to loneliness!also people I indirectly know that have Cancer and my wife on Friday getting many teeth removed not only will be painful but be hard on self esteem!God says when two or more are gathered in my name there shall I be!so I ask your help through our lord ?in Gods Love Curtis and I pray for your ministry in these times right from hell!God blessCurtis
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 96:2
    I certainly will do, Curtis. The Lord is well able to minister His Help & Blessing even when we can't see clearly the road ahead. Our faith is the trigger for His action & outcome. I hope your son is also trusting the Lord for his need, or if not, then you are able to be beside him to guide & counsel him in this very important lifelong decision. And that all will proceed well for your wife & that in good time, she will be able to have dentures that will fit & work well for her. Often, some of the greatest help one can receive from us, is just to be there for those in pain & to share that burden with them. When it's borne all by oneself, then it may become unbearable, so your presence, your words of comfort & assurance & your prayers will be for their joy & healing. The Lord help you too as you share the load of your loved ones.
  • Richard in Christ on Psalms 96:12
    If anybody, even a brother or sister in Christ, wants to condemn me and call me a sinner. To judge me and say I'm not going to Heaven. Or that I don't know Jesus Christ or our Perfect Father in Heaven. I still love you and hope to see you at Home. You are in my prayers with everyone else. Blessings of pure love, to all, from our Father and our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 96:12
    I'm unsure whether you're referring to particular comments, but you can rest assured dear brother Richard, you are well thought of & I particularly have been blessed by your comments to me & others. You have exuded Christlikeness that most of us fail to aspire to - your very real love for the Lord & the saints is certainly not veiled in what you write. And this I sense in my spirit, that you share your thoughts with those seeking help, not "by (your) might, nor by power, but by God's Spirit" & we are blessed thereby.

    So be encouraged & strengthened in your mind & spirit that those who oppose or judge you, do so ignorantly & are in need of extra grace that only the Spirit can give. God has done a mighty work in your life and in very truth, "He which hath begun a good work in you, will perform (perfect & complete) it until the day of Jesus Christ".

    And, "When we all get to Heaven, what a day of rejoicing that will be; when we all see Jesus, we'll sing & shout the victory". Every blessing & encouragement from the Lord.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Psalms 96:12
    My special brother Chris. The post, I made, was really not toward any certain comment. As to just spread peace. Your warm, thoughtful, and kind reply has truly touched me. The Holy Spirit invigorated me after reading it. As you are much more learned than I, have much more time and experience with the Lord, have done so many more good deeds and know the Holy Bible, or the Word of God, very well. You have my deep respect and am very thankful for all your thoughtfulness and care. Which of coarse is the Lord's Spirit shining through you. I always give credit to our Father, or the Lord, for everything, and always keep a humble mind thinking everyone is of more importance than me. As we are all truly unique and special in our own way. Sometimes the smallest things can make the greatest impact on people. Which then the love of God flows like a ripple on to others. Making our Father rejoice in gladness. Praise the Lord!

    So true. As anyone who would every judge, or condemn, me has no effect at all on my relationship with our Father and our Lord Jesus Christ. It may only sadden me a bit as I would much rather see people in joy, peace, and happiness together rather than quarreling about something. As I do understand we are all different and conversing with one another is a good thing. Love for each other is truly the most important thing I feel. As, of coarse, being saved by Jesus Christ our Lord and Salvation. Who is the only way to the Father which is pure love. As He loves us all so very much.

    It will be of glory and marvel past our comprehension. Know that you are someone that I truly want to meet and will be asking about you when we are at Home in our Fathers Kingdom. God Bless you brother.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 96:12
    What you've just shared dear brother, has indeed both gladdened & comforted my heart that all is well in your relationships with those here or elsewhere. I'm all too aware that we must be quick to pick up one who has fallen & restore him to faith & joy but I'm truly glad this has not been your case & that the error was mine.

    Thank you too for your very kind comments: we all sit as lovers of our blessed Saviour, learning at His Feet. If we learn something to impart that will enrichen another life or draw him closer to the Lord, then we have used our learning as the Lord intended. The blessing of the Lord then falls on both. As "iron sharpeneth iron, so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend".

    Aside from being in a position to offer guidance & instruction, what I appreciate also from interactions on this Site, is to understand what other Christians think or glean from the Word. Often we are insulated from this aspect by spending most of our time in 'closed' circles & we rarely encounter believers who actually understand Scriptures quite differently to us. True, there are many worthy & unworthy thoughts proffered, but in our desire to understand the other's position, we increase our knowledge by having our minds so exercised to re-examine our own beliefs & understanding. And yet, I also wonder, even with the limitations we have by expressing ourselves via the written page, if discussing a point we conflict on, whether we are actually in some agreement yet viewing the matter from a different angle or having failed to include some vital point. So it takes some special help from the Lord to look past the words & to see that the Spirit of the Lord is still evident & giving us another dimension in the study.

    But your example of 'love that covers all our differences' is truly worthy of all acceptation & truly "covers a multitude of sins", especially of ignorance & false surmisings. May He continue to bless you Richard as we look forward to your further input.
  • Andy on Psalms 96:12
    Why does Psalms 96:12 end where it does? Most verses end with punctuation, but verse 12 and another verse in Psalms seem to be about the only exception to this. I was curious as to why.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 96:12
    That's a good question. However, we would need to ask, "who or what caused these apparent anomalies to occur?" We know that the Scriptures were never written in chapter & verse form as we have it now; they were just a single writing (or, letter) with the usual breaks afforded by the language in which they were written.

    Then various folk involved in dealing with these various writings applied there own 'break ups' over the centuries, so there was no consistency in this & with punctuation over the myriad of translations produced. As history would show, the Hebrew Old Testament into verses were done by a Jewish Rabbi, Nathan, in AD 1448 & a Robert Estiennne did a similar work in the New Testament in AD 1555. Therefore, once a passage of writing is so broken up into chapters & verses, we can only conclude the same folk also applied their punctuation as they deemed necessary.

    The English Bible we have now that first used chapters & verses, was the Geneva Bible in AD 1560, though the dividing of the Books into chapters & verses went on much earlier than this. Though I do admit, Psalms 96:12,13 does look peculiar as given to us, though, looking at the other verses in the Psalm which are quite short in length, Nathan may have given this strange separation in the verses to maintain the style he applied to the other verses. Just my thoughts.
  • Ruby on Psalms 96
    where can I read about , banning a person in church. Does god agree with putting a ban on someone
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 96
    Have a look at the following passages:

    1 Corinthians 5:1-7. Noting verse 5 which speaks of evidence of fornication in the Church, that the Church is required to take action against the offender. The Church is to resign him into the worldly kingdom (of the Devil), not for the purposes of total rejection & eternal damnation, but to the end that the sinner might come to his senses, repent of his evil, turn back to the Lord & therefore restored into fellowship with God's people in a holy environment. And a further letter by Paul, which we think he might have referred to the same instance in his first letter: 2 Corinthians 2:6-8.

    1 Timothy 1:18-20. Paul speaking of Hymenaeus and Alexander, who blasphemed against God, making their 'faith' totally worthless. Paul said that he "delivered them to Satan for the purpose that they may acknowledge their sin & repent.

    Romans 16:17. This verse doesn't specifically put out a vile person from the Church, but says to avoid them that cause divisions & teach what is contrary to true doctrine. This is done so that the person may be shamed for their behaviour & so will either cease from doing those things or leave of his own accord. Also 2 Thessalonians 3:6.

    Titus 3:10-11. Again here, a heretic should be first warned, not once, but twice, & then despatched if they refuse to repent.

    All the above Scriptures were penned by the Apostle Paul to believers & we believe that the apostle wrote & spoke with the full authority of Jesus. So discipline in the Church is necessary & if not administered correctly & swiftly, then sin will affect the whole Body, corrupting it with false teaching - we see so much of it today where extra-biblical sources are used in teaching or the Word of God is twisted to suit their own ends, & the Church then becomes altogether pathetic & useless.
  • Rory M Crutchfield on Psalms 96
    We must come into his courts with praise...and!! bring an offering.... this is paramount... for faith without works is still dead!!!we must honor jesus with our 1st fruits of our labor to let him know that we acknowledge him as the source of all our increase... we must keep god 1st in our worship and honor him in the santuary....amen
  • BSP on Psalms 96
    Verse 5~The gods of the nations are all idols in that they are man made, but the true God, Jehovah God, is above all other gods and is worthy of all praise and worship.
  • JACKOLYN HART on Psalms 96
    I love the word of god
  • LadyA on Psalms 96
    WHEN THE PRAISES GO UP, THE BLESSINGS WILL COME DOWN.... PRAISE THE LORD!!!!
  • Melvin on Psalms 96
    Worship and praise should be a life style.
  • Graham on Psalms 96
    At the coming of our Great God the saints shall meet him in the air all filled with the Holy Ghost speaking with other tongues those who have obeyed his Word along with the same from the day of pentacost(the early church)
  • William Lambert on Psalms 96
    The sanctuary of God is a place for all to worship...to dance, to sing, to adore the beauty of all the earth.


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