Psalms Chapter 8 Discussion



 
  • Pst Joseph Omari Appah on Psalms 8:8
    These are the Spiritual highways of the very foundation of that GOD has laid to direct as HE wills to made manifest to the natural world
  • Kate on Psalms 8
    The love of god is blessings from the Lord!!!!
  • ERROL Stanley on Psalms 8
    Which trib do the levitate come from
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 8
    I think you're referring the tribe of Levi. If so, Levi was a son of Jacob, who was also called Israel (Genesis 32:28). You can see the names of Israel's other sons in Exodus 1:1-5. And then we read of Levi's sons in Exodus 6:16-19 and all these were appointed by God to serve Him in the Tabernacle (Numbers 3:5-10), while the other sons of Israel had other appointments throughout their journeyings towards the Promised Land.
  • ERROL Stanley - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Thank you for your reply it makes sense.
  • Alex on Psalms 8
    Comments by Alex about Psalms 8 But Jesus spoke many times about the Children of the Kingdom, thats what Psalms 8 is about,but it was hid,simply b/c its the mystery of the new birth that humanity should give birth to a baby Christ the son of man.Thats y the sower of that good seed will go forth to sow his precious seed in our hearts, initiating a birth of Christ in us which is the H.G. which is the Israel of God. The only thing that can destroy our enemy is a new innerman, a new spirit and a new heart which is a baby Christ that is gonna be born in humanity via his seed the WORDS . Thats what the babes and the suckling are baby spirits, baby Christs that are born by his seed the WORD in US . The H.G. HAS TO BE BORN IN US BY HIS SEED THE WORD. The multiplication of Isaac resulted in natural Israel, But the MULTIPLICATION of Christ via his seed WORD is the Israel of God. When he breath on them that was his seed his Word, He was propagating very GOD with his seed the word/his breath. Thats y he said b/c i have spoken these WORD sorrows have filled your hearts IMPLING A SPRITUAL PREGNANCY, the babes and the sucklings a baby CHRIST the H.G.MY LIL CHILDREN OF WHOM I TRAVAIL IN BIRTH TILL CHRIST IS FORMED IN YOU thats the babes and sucklings that are gonna be born in US OUR NEW BIRTH. No this has not happened just yet,It cannot happen till the book is opened the WORDS of the book are the seeds of the sower th new covenant A BIRTHING COVENANT thats y the woman goes into travail which is humanity.God so loved the world etc.The babes and sucklings are baby GODS the H.G PLURAL AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN THAT WAS THE GREAT PROMISE.Rememeber God swore by himself when he made that promise thats y i'm so obsessed with the parable of the sower and his seed etc and its gonna happen soon. Jesus was thinking about this when he was on the cross he was calling for Elijah to come and turn the HEARTS OF THE FATHERS TO THE children th babes and sucklings His children th babes and sucklings .gb
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Psalms 8
    If you search the phrase "ye are gods", you will find it only three times. In each instance the g is small, that is, not diety. And in Psalm 82, "I have said ye are gods", those gods will die like men. Those men died as men and not as Jesus, who laid down his life that he might take it up again, as no other can do. In Isaiah 41 they do either good or evil, in John 10 Jesus points to the challenge Almighty God put to men who called themselves gods and wanted others to decide if a god does good or evil.

    If you study carefully, you will see the title god does not refer to deity. Children of God are his children, not gods, but saints.
  • Alex - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Bill in Hebrew there are no upper case or lower case when the scriptures says ye are Gods it simply Gods plural. Ya gotta realize that the good seed is the living WORD WHICH IS THE SEED OF GOD. Thats y he is saying to whom the WORD came it made them GODS Jesus said whatsoever a man sows that shall he reap and Jesus is sowing the Living WORD the very seed of GOD THUS HIS CROP ARE Gods plural, he will not have crop failure, As my word ( his seed ) cannot return unto him void but shall surely prosper in what it was sent to do which is salvation, eternal life. When Jesus said the Kingdom of God is gonna be with in you he was not kidding, we are gona birth a baby Christ the Son of Man,Mankinds fruit unto God via his seed th WORD. The good ground is our hearts where that good seed will be sown thus we will birth God via his good seed,thats y he is saying that which is born of the SPIRIT IS SPIRIT AS GOD IS SPIRIT. I will dwell in them and walk in them and talk in them and be their GOD AND THEY SHALL BE MY PPL, THE VERY kINGDOM OF God is gona be with in us sinners ALL B/C OF HIS BLOOD, HIS WORD.If any man hears my WORDS and keeps them my father and i will come and take our AbODE WITH THEM,So when he said ye are Gods he was telling the truth.Whatsoever a man sows that shall he reap, ya gota realize that Jesus is sowing the very seed of God in humanity. The field is the world. Thats y David saw the whole world at rest and full of his GLORY, I will pour out my spirit on all flesh Joel, thus the spirit of God is gonna be born in ALL of US which is the H.G. God ALMIGHTY. THE PROMISE,But 1 thing for certain is he will not have a crop failure, My word ( seed ) shall not return unto me void. If i belifted up I will draw ALL MEN UNTO ME. THANK YOU JESUS GBU BILL
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Psalms 8
    If you look carefully you will see there is a subtle play of words in what Alex is saying. The lie in the garden is proven in the admissions of Alex and Earl assuming deity. Be warned everyone, their teaching is heresy on display and spiritual blindness on their part. A little truth will never cover a great lie.

    Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

    Do men validate the lie of Satan in the garden and call it truth? Yes.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Alex you err, the creation never can become the Creator."For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.1Tim2:5&6 "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else." Isaiah45:22. But you Alex say there is another, and another, and another, and another, etc.. Almighty God has no beginning and no end, the Alpha and Omega, and has no equal outside of himself, otherwise, that is not God.
  • Alex - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Hiya Bill nice to hear from you. let me explain that HEBREWS 1 tells us that Christ is indeed God the son,But unto the Son he says thy throne O GOD IS FOREVER and ever so we see that GOD WAS MULTIPLIED when MARY Gave birth,Jesus was the living WORD made flesh and blood and the living word is God as John 1 says, so Christ was the multiplication of God in MARY But he wants to be multiplied in all Men via his seed the Word.That was the great Promise i will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven thus the multilication of very God in humanity via the seed of CHRIST THE LIVING WORD,tHATS Y JESUS REFERS TO THE H.G. as the PROMISE, WHICH IS SPIRIT, And that which is born of the spirit is spirit as God is spirit. Thats y Jesus said to whom the WORD came it made them Gods, Thats y the sower of that good seed will go forth and sow his precious seed in humanity that we might be Gods,If any man hears my words and keeps them My Father and I will come and take our abode with him meaning the gift of the H.G. WHICH IS the multiplcation of GOD, The Promise, The scriptures say I HAVE SAID YE ARE GODS PLURAL. Bill ya need to study a bit,without the multiplication of God there can be no Israel of God. Just like the multiplcation of abraham issac and jacob wihout the multiplication of Abraham there cd not have been a natural Israel, Thus the heavenly trinity of father son and H.G. has to be multiplied in order for there to be an Israel of God,Thus the sower and his seed,to whom the word came ( his seed ) it made them GODS. Thats y Isaiah calls Jesus everlasting father he is the father of the H.G.. simply b/c the H.G. is born IN HUMANITY by his Words which are his seeds ( his BREATH etc ). HIS SEED WAS HIS WORD HIS BREATH, HE BREATHE ON THEM AND THEY RECEIVED THE H.G. Thats y God Almighty refers to himself as Abraham Issac and jacob impling there has to be an Israel of God meaning the multiplication of very God via that good seed the new covenant the Words of God that are YET sealed.GB
  • Alex - in Reply on Psalms 8
    My comments about was Jesus truly God the son,There are many scriptures that MENTION that Jesus was truly God the son as Hebrews 1 Unto the SON he says thy THRONE O GOD IS FOREVER and Ever. It was God Almighty that made this law that everything has to multiply after its Kind . But we see that Jesus ii able to reproduce after the God kind ( Spirits ). Thats y he is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. that is gonna be born in humanity the very multiplication of God, To whom the word came his Seed the living word it made them Gods thus he is able to reproduce God in humanity, He is able to propagate very GOD IN HUMANITY THE WORLD 27 TIMES the prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains all b/c of his seed the word the contents of the book in the fathers right hand. Jesus does not reproduce after flesh & blood , his seed is the living word thus he reproduces after the GOD KIND, THE H.G THE GRANSON THE BEGINNING OF AN ISREAL OF GOD, Christ was just his 1st born of many brethren, Thats y the sower will go forth to sow his precious seed in humanity that a baby Christ wd be born in US sinners The H.G. thats y the new birth is so important, its the beginning of an Israel of God. John baptised you with water but i will baptise you with the H.G and fire a heavenly birth by his seed the WORD. His seed results in a birth, a Child which is the H.G.THAT WHICH IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT IS SPIRIT THATS THE H.G. B/C I HAVE SPOKEN THESE WORDS/SEEDS SORROWS HAVE FILLED YOUR HEARTS A SPRITUAL PREGNANCY, THEN HE TELLS THEM OF A WOMAN IN TRAVAIL N BIRTH PAINS,Which answers to the woman in Rev. 12, her CHILD IS A KINGDOM CHILD,Her Child fulfills the prophecy that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven, Thats y Isaiah is saying when he saw the Kingdom coming unto US a child is born unto US a son is given, AS Jesus said unless you receive the Kingdom as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in,Her Child is the Granson th H.G. TH PROMISE CHILD.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Psalms 8
    By suggesting God can be multiplied you violate the holiness of God.Scripture always affirms he is unique, whereas, the pride of Satan to declare himself as god, has defiled the creation, and not supplanted God. I know where you learned your erroneous lie.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Alex, another witness, Zachariah 12:5-8 (vs) 8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Alex, the Spirit of truth, understanding and wisdom bestowed upon you will also be multiplied unto others, every man in Gods own order, the Spirit of grace and mercy be upon all, keep proclaiming the truth of the kingdom.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Earl, Alex is fabricating Jesus as a multiplication of God(something that came later in time), rather than him always being God, as is the Holy Spirit. Multiply is not the word to describe Gods plan of salvation to believers. God sanctifies, believers are sanctified and called saints, subservient to Almighty God. Presuming diety is fatal. The numbers of people decending to hell far outnumber believers, and a multiplication plan favors their situation, rather that the few that find the door to heaven. I believe Alex has erred and misspoken about the nature of salvation, because he see's saints destroying Satan, and not God himself. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit have no beginning nor end.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Mild Bill, the Spirit grace us with understanding, when you take a kernel of corn and plant it in fertile moist ground it dies and is reborn a green growing stalk that looks nothing like the SEED that was planted. As time passes it puts out an ear that continues to grow and little kernels of immature seed are attached to the ear. When the SEED is mature the green growing stalk naturally dies, no matter how moist and fertile the ground is. The harvester comes and harvest the crop. The SEED that is harvested is EXACTLY like the SEED that was planted and when you plant one of the new SEED it's SEED will be exactly like the SEED planted. This is the multiplication process that the Spirit has put upon all things; whether they be natural plants or animals or Spirit beings, the process does not change.
  • Alex - in Reply on Psalms 8
    GBU Earl Bowman i know you are a man of Spritual Understanding.Thank you for those scriptures.
  • Darlene - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Good morning :)

    So do you think the kingdom at hand lives with in us?

    Gods kingdom is nigh? Is in ya? We rule and reign it? We are kings of our own right?

    Thanks!

    Blessings.
  • Sunday Alaka Ogechi on Psalms 8:9
    The Apostle Paul quoted this passage in 1 Corinthians 15:27. Paul quoted it in much the same way that the writer of Hebrews did in Hebrews 2:5-9, showing that this promise of dominion is now only incompletely fulfilled among men. Yet it will be ultimately fulfilled in Jesus, the ultimate Man, and will be one day also completely fulfilled in His resurrected followers. In light of all this, it is a great tragedy when a man is captured and held in bondage by the things of this world. We were born to have dominion over such material things, instead of being in bondage to them. O LORD, our Lord, how excellent is Your name in all the earth: When David thought about how vast a dominion God had given to man, it made him praise God all over again. That this humble creature - humble in light of the majesty of the universe, humble in light of its present standing under angelic beings - should be given such authority is a demonstration of both the excellence and the goodness of God.
  • Mishael ROMANS 11 on Psalms 8
    (Read it real real slow)

    It was PROPHESY. It all happened as the Godhead Wrote it. Through Jesus's suffering He set the new Covenant in motion until the mystery be completed: until the fullness of the Gentiles.

    Romans 11:11 ...have they stumbled that

    they should fall? God forbid: but rather

    through their fall...salvation is come

    unto the Gentiles (WHY?) for to provoke

    them (the JEWS) to jealousy.

    For if the casting away from them be THE

    RECONCILING of the WORLD...what shall be

    the the RECEIVING of them be...but life

    from the dead?

    Verse 26: AND SO ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED

    Verse 27: For this is MY COVENANT unto them (Israel) , WHEN I shall take away their sins.

    Verse 28: As concerning the gospel (birth, life, death, resurrection of Jesus) They are enemies (now) FOR YOUR SAKES (us).

    BUT as touching the election, they are BELOVED for the fathers sakes (plural) Deuteronomy 9:5.

    They're OUT now, and we are IN. God did that all by Himself. Didn't need any of us to debate the soundness of His Decision. Why indeed should any of us Gentiles shed a tear for millions of Jews who were murdered?

    Well, they were on the OUTS so it's ok?

    Romans 11:8. According as it is written, God hath given them a spirit of slumber;

    Eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear....unto THIS DAY.

    Everyone is going to give an account for every idle word that has come out of the mouth.

    Once more I will try: God is dealing with Israel. He doesn't need our help. We should be grateful, because us Gentiles are being blessed huge because God has Israel off in a corner wondering why so many Gentiles are in love with Jesus, and follow him around like a flock of sheep. That was a positive statement. They are jealous. They are OUT. We are IN.

    Soon, God is going to bring them in again.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Psalms 8
    1 John Chapter 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

    11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

    12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

    John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    There is only one door and that is Jesus, I do not care what anyone says they are a Jew and if they do not have Christ they are under the wrath of God eternally.
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO on Psalms 8
    Page 1. Chris, don't take things to the extreme. First, how many days (24 hours) did it take God to create the universe and man? How long did God rest? How long was the 7th Day? How long did it take for the trees to grow in the Garden? See Gen 2:1-9. What did God do on the day after the 7th Day?

    The fact is that there is an element of allegory and metaphor in the Genesis creation account. Christians are afraid to admit that because they think it diminishes the account and credibility of the Bible as a whole. But a realistic approach to Genesis 1-3 does no such thing. From Gen 2, for example, we see that it took time for vegetation to grow and cover the Garden. Adam could not have identified and named every animal in the world Gen 2:19-20. That is a stretch. Six days doesn't begin to explain the 13 Billion years old universe we live in. Careful examination of Genesis shows that God does things in an orderly and deliberate manner, in time. If God didn't work that way, why is it taking so long for God to rescue us from sin? Why not just say, 'let there be no sin' and poof, sin disappears?

    Now, I covered the matter of the 2 Trees in the Garden before. When God expelled Adam from the Garden He set pillars of fire to guard the Tree of Life. Is that to be taken literally? And what happened? Did the fire run out? Where are those pillars? Clearly the imagery is metaphorical. From Revelation 22 and we know what the 2 Trees represented. They were not 2 physical Trees. The fruit was not a physical fruit. And eating the fruit was a metaphor for taking part in something they should not have been doing. Psalm 1:3. Read all of Ezek 31 to see a full picture of the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil. Who is that Tree? It is non other than the devil.

    And who is the Tree of Life? None other than Christ

    Yes, there is an element of symbolism, allegory and metaphor in Genesis 1-3. And the 2 Trees were representative of something other than trees. Continued in page 2.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Carlos, I realize that this subject is being addressed by Adam also, so I'll not duplicate too much.

    To state, at the outset, I don't believe that the Genesis account is allegorical. If that were intended to be so by God, then we would be all over the place as to what is allegorical or not, are there metaphors also being used, etc. I would rather accept the account as factual & stand before God on that position, than see 'things' in the account that are supposed to be representative elsewhere or indeed untrue. So if one holds to this position (a factual one) & then says I also believe in Rev 13:1 that it speaks of a literal beast coming out of the sea, even though it clearly doesn't, then I would rather accept his belief than presuppose that some of the creation account is allegorical.

    Whether it took time for vegetation to grown in Eden or was accomplished in an instant by the Word of God is only speculation. And "why it takes so long for God to rescue us from sin?" Well, we are in God's Plan & it no doubt includes 2 Pet 3:9 & Rom 5:6 (about Christ being sent at the appointed time in God's Plan). So, God doesn't need to do all things over a period of time - there is room for His instantaneous response, as I see the days of creation & entrance of sin into man & world. And using our venerable scientists timeline of the age of the universe (e.g. 13 billion yrs old), is anything but factual but based on guesswork: primarily by studying the oldest stars & measuring the rate of expansion of the universe. And what is the basis of their observations? Man's present & limited knowledge of the universe & through which all his determinations are made. I have little regard to such 'findings' where his studies & measurements are based on finite & undefined judgements. I think that we would be better served by them not making such non-provable predictions.

    Finally, I won't even try to discuss the actuality of the two trees, pillars, etc. I think you know my position.
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Chris, I'm not sure I'm getting my point across. I don't mean the entire Genesis account is allegorical, but that there is an element of allegory, metaphor and symbolism in it. Many of the passages we read in Scripture are like that. It doesn't devalue or make it less credible. However, with what we now know about history and science, it is imperative for Christians to reexamine the Creation story. The reliability of science on this is not questionable.

    Example: Heb 3-4 clearly state we are still in the 7th Day Rest of God. If that is the case. God has not resumed His creative activity for 6 years. Consequently, the 7th Day is 6 yrs long. That means the 'Day' of Day 7, is not a 24 hour day.

    We also know from history that cultures and languages developed much longer ago than 6 years, given the earliest writings, such as Gilgamesh and Sanskrit. If there are writings that old, the cultures and languages they came from must be older.

    Science tells us, with a high degree of certainty, that the universe is over 13 Billion years in the making. And the earth is approximately 5 Billion years old.

    In light of things like that, and what Genesis itself says, I conclude Day 1 was longer than 24 hrs. The same holds true for Day 2 and the rest. Adam and Eve were created on the 6th Day, but in that time, Adam named all the animals, etc. If we accept that God works within the framework of reality, we have to accept that when Genesis says God made trees grow from the ground, it took more than a couple of minutes for it to happen.

    So, the story is valid because it conveys a message. But that message is delivered in a package that's not entirely literal. The issue of interpretation comes up because we insist on fitting a square literal peg, in the round hole of reality. It just doesn't fit. But your fears are obvious when you say you don't want God to blame you for accepting that not all of Genesis is hyper-literal. I don't blame you. I was taught the same.
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Hi Carlos,

    Just so you know you have to click the Reply button to actually reply to someone and notify them, otherwise they may not see your post.

    You mentioned: "The fact is that there is an element of allegory and metaphor in the Genesis creation account."

    What are your examples?

    I've noticed other comments from you and agree with many of your points and thought they were well thought out, but the one below I don't believe.

    >Christians are afraid to admit that because they think it diminishes the account and credibility of the Bible as a whole."

    Why assume if someone takes the Bible literally then they must be 'afraid'? Is this really true for all Christians? Have you prayed to God about this and did you hear any confirmation from him? It would seem like dangerous ground to pluck parts the Bible and claim they're untrue. What if the opposite was true that maybe you're the one uncomfortable with Genesis being literal so you claim that it isn't then try to discredit other Christians for believing it?

    For me: (1) I'm a Christian, and (2) I believe the Genesis creation is literal and not a metaphor, and (3) I'm not afraid, but feel confident and have total trust in God's Word.

    An ABC poll showed 61% most Christians believe Genesis creation is literal.

    So, how can your statement be true? Should statements like this be posted publicly to other Christians to try to create distrust in the Bible? Does this come from God?
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Adam, In earlier posts you mention "free will", what is it free of?
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Hi Mild Bill, is this a genuine question you have? It's like asking someone shooting a basketball free throw what his throw is free of.
  • Praise - in Reply on Psalms 8
    It means that God is giving you a free chance to live.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Praise, Free of what?


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