Psalms Chapter 41 Discussion

  • Ronald on Psalms 41
    In Psalms 41 who are the main characters and who betrayed the author of Psalms
  • David on Psalms 41
    There are many clear cut decisions we can make based on the Word of God. There are also many areas that God gives us principles to follow. The best thing is first to be saved by the Gospel of Christ. Then cultivate an intimate relationship with God, by knowing Him through His Word. Have a strong prayer life, and prayer partners to hold you accountable. Build relationships in the church with saved people you can trust. Lean and trust in the Lord God Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent.

    Then as the Scripture says - wait on Him. I too am struggling with different issues in my life, however putting into play the above things have helped me greatly. Not as easy as writing it down. I'm 70yrs old. I took the covid shot about 7 months ago because I was traveling internationally, so I had no choice. I didn't want to take it; but if I didn't, I would not have been able travel by airplane. I've been blessed, I had no complications.

    My wife passed away in late January 2021, then my sister passed away in June 2021. It's been very difficult: however, My God and Savior has been a high tower and great comfort to me and my children. Praise the Lord, I will see and be with them again based on God's Word.

    God bless everyone one. August 2021
  • Maryfran53223 - in Reply on Psalms 41
    God is a God that will never leave us nor forsake us, He gives us new mercies every morning. May God continue to bless you and let His light forever shine on you. Be blessed
  • English sacha - in Reply on Psalms 41
    Dear David , I am so sorry for your loss , please know that you are valued and cherished on this site , I too have lost more than one person in the last couple of years , we are heart broken because we miss their company and the comfort and affection that they brought us and we have to carry on in these awful kingdoms of men without them , God and Jesus are with you every second of every day , surrender yourself to them and allow their love to wash over you , they will keep your feet on the straight and narrow and bring you ever close to Them .Much sympathy and love in Christ .
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 41
    May the Lord bless, keep & sustain you David in your earthly sojourn. You've certainly had a very sad & trying year & there is certainly no balm of comfort or healing available from any earthly storehouse. You've shown by your testimony here & from your other encouraging posts, that your joy & victory lies wholly in the Person of our Blessed God & Saviour. May you be strengthened day by day in the inner man, knowing the Lord's gracious Presence at every moment & at every turn in your life. 1 Corinthians 2:9.
  • David Wilson on Psalms 41
    I recently left the church, I have attended for many years, to attend the Church where my wife attends so that we may worship together. She had left the original Church for personal reasons and will not return. I did not talk with the Pastor about my leaving but did speak with the Head Deacon of the Church about this matter. On Sunday the Pastor mentioned my leaving, not by name, but did use the Psalm 41 passage as a reference. I am not his enemy but this is the impression I received from him with this reading. I am not leaving GOD'S house just moving on the way I feel the Lord is leading me to go. Appreciate your input.
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 41
    Hello David,

    Pastors and church leadership are imperfect sinners like anyone else. Some feel threatened, feel insecure, feel they need to justify their job position to others or to themselves, and sometimes make misguided decisions, and false assumptions.

    I don't know the context of the Psalms 41 mention, because in itself there's both positive verses like verse 2, but others could be potentially interpreted as negative. If I were to guess I'd say that pastors may feel pressure to grow the church and is a measure of their job performance and they may feel insecure when someone (especially someone who has been an integral member) leaves, because they may take it personally and goes against their goals.

    That being said, pastors leave churches too then rationalize it at the time. Most missionaries are transient and move around to build and encourage churches- not really rooted in one place too long on average. That's what Paul did. I see leaving as a positive thing- new opportunities to serve others, meet a new community and who knows what else God can use you for. To claim that people moving somehow automatically means it's leaving God's house sounds disingenuous and manipulative to me. But I've heard all kinds of logical fallacies used in God's name used to manipulate and cause others guilt. I think this is very wrong. Pastors are in a position of influence and I've unfortunately heard them abuse their power before.

    So, I would not let 1 persons opinion and possible insecure comments adversely affect you. It's hard to hear things like that instead of words of appreciation after committing so long to one church.

    God bless...
  • Nellie Morgan on Psalms 41
    I am a believer in God and read from the king's Jame bible. I would like to no do you think God dosen't want us to take the convid19 vaccination. I'm 73 & i took it but I have a friend who has all kinds of sickness but will not take it because she believe God wants her to trust his power to heal her

    My question is there any where in the bible I can tell her to read to insure her that by taking the vaccine dosen't weaken her belief in God
  • Robert Malit - in Reply on Psalms 41
    I would respect your friend's belief and faith in our Lord. I feel the same way. If your friend has faith the size of a mustard seed and doesn't doubt God will protect her/him, nothing is impossible.
  • Andrew - in Reply on Psalms 41
    Hello Nellie,

    I hope that my reply will in some way help to answer your question. I can relate to your friend's belief system, as I too was once erroneously taught the same doctrine as a child. We were taught that going to the doctor for any reason showed a lack of faith and would ultimately result in being punished by God for our disobedience. I give thanks to God for opening my eyes years later and for giving me discernment to recognize false teachings.

    To answer your question regarding the COVID-19 vaccine, and/or receiving any other medical treatment is against God's Will, I would go to scripture (KJV). Matthew 9:12 says "But when Jesus heard that, He said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick." In other words, Jesus was saying that those who are in good have no reason to go and see a physician. Another point that could be illustrated is the fact that the apostle Luke was a physician. We as Christians should always maintain our faith in God, whether it be to give us strength during times of weakness, or healing during times of sickness. God gave man the wisdom to become a doctor in order to help those who are sick. Maintaining our faith is always essential to our Christian journey. When we go to the doctor for medical advice or treatment, we put not our trust solely in their knowledge, but rather put our trust in the Lord that He will give the doctor wisdom and guidance to treat us in a manner that will result in better health.

    Hope this helps!

    God Bless,

  • Suzanne - in Reply on Psalms 41
    This can b a tough question ,in my life i have had a very serious illness and i did not hesitate 2 take the medical treatment offered ,i belive that all good things come from God and that he has given people the knowledge to cure and treat illnessess ,all through my treatment i prayed 2 God and asked him that i might continue 2 live ,i wasnt afraid 2 die i just didnt want 2 yet as i wanted 2 b with my loved ones longer ,i believe u should do what u believe is right 4 u ,if God wants u 2 continue living u will and if God wants u 2 die u will die ,we have 2 accept His decision and trust in His righteousness and mercy ,i thank God that He allowed and allows me 2 continue living .Please do what u think is right 4 u without worrying about it ,we r all always in His hands and there is no better place 4 us 2 b .
  • Sherry Ahmad on Psalms 41:3
    Is there another deeper mystical meaning for "Jesus make my dying bed", which is derived from Psalms 41:3?
  • Bendito Palavra - in Reply on Psalms 41:3
    But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee. ( Hebrews 2:9-12)
  • Godness Aniekan Okposong on Psalms 41
    Psalm 41 is favorite God use this portion and fight for me
  • Hans Aaland on Psalms 41
    Last I quoted from Zech. Ch. 11 about the Raider emblem rep me, says he will eat the fat of the land, and tear their claws in pieces. I've quoted on record to someone about myself being the one. Only here, in Ps. 41, I'm depicted as concerning the poor, which I've done by not focusing in making an income with some exception, not to mention my going bankrupt, and sadly to take my fathers life at the breast of Ps.55:19 20 . I want also to show what is said of my consideration. It says in vs. 3 "The LORD will strengthen him upon the bed of languishing: thou wilt make all his bed in his sickness." I need a quick recognitiion by the Raiders change of plan, to bring attention to my cause.Y.R.!
  • Thanks Adam on Psalms 41
    Adam I do agree with your understanding of James1:13 God tells us He does not lead any of us into Temptation but by the wording in The Lords Prayer Matt6:9 Jesus is telling us to ask God not to lead us into TemptationV9 So why the Contridiction it must be someones Translation error Jesus would not tell us to Pray for what God tells us is not True. My Heart agrees and no doubt yours does too Adam
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 41
    It sounds you're interpreting Matthew 6:13 as God being the one tempting you, but that isn't the case. It says 'lead us not', it doesn't say 'tempt us not'. God can lead or offer a direction for you, but its up to you using your freewill to choose it. This prayer by Jesus is asking God not to lead us down a path where Satan may tempt us. This is not a translation error as you suggest.
  • I am - in Reply on Psalms 41
    If thy sayings come not from God himself, of whom do they come, thine own self? I can of mine own self do nothing: lest mine own judgment be found to be unjust. It is written, God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Has in these last days spoken unto us by HIS Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds:
  • Blessings in Knowing God'sTruth - in Reply on Psalms 41
    Iam, To know God's Good Will for us and His Truth we Trust Him and do what He tells us in Scripture. We need His Wisdom Prov4:7 we weren't Born with it we all lack it James1:5-8 We are told to Ask, Seek and Knock in Lk10:11-13 and when we ask in agreement with God's Good Will for us including for The Holy Spirit we will Receive them and we will know God's Truth and His Heart of Love for us 1Cor2.
  • Patty Tozi on Psalms 41
    Remember this Holiday- Emotions are infectious. If you are blue, you will make those around you feel the same way. If you are stressed, your tension will spread like the tide. But a smile, a cheerful word, a kind look, a laugh, a warm embrace, an uplifting conversation- - those are gifts that go right to the heart and spread the true meaning of Christmas. LOVE!!!
  • Patty Tozi on Psalms 41
    Ultimate of surprise is doing the unexpected. That can only come from our Holy Father. Being helpful to others in need or sickly giving your finances- when God gave you a chance to follow a long lost dream you always wanted. Giving up your way of living- to help someone see how precious they truly are after others misused them. For God wants us to show His Love through us to others. What a joy!!!
  • Patty Tozi on Psalms 41
    Bless all today!!!
  • Eric Bethancourt on Psalms 41
    I believe true happiness is having the means to help out and actually following through with it. If you're doing well and have the money to spare, take care of somebody by giving to someone in need. Choose somebody who would be as righteous as yourself if given the chance. The reward is seeing them grow and follow your lead!
  • I am - in Reply on Psalms 41
    Nay. My Holy Father teaches me that the love of God is Christ the Saviour, not money. Much money or no money is neither rich nor poor or else Satan appears as many rich and many poor. Let the proud man repent, and then consider the poor. It is written, Blessed ARE the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. and, Hereby perceive we the love OF GOD, because he laid down his life for us:
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 41
    Do think it's more Biblical to hoard money instead of helping someone with it when possible? This isn't instead of helping people other ways too, but in addition. I agree with Eric's comment.
  • Eric - in Reply on Psalms 41
    Thank you Adam! I believe in God the father of almighty.
  • I am - in Reply on Psalms 41
    Yea, ye agree O rebellious house. Yet thy agreement with hell shall not stand. Verily, I tell ye, my Holy Father sent me not to fund that man's pride, enticing men to continue following thy pernicious ways into hellfire. It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.
  • Translation Error - in Reply on Psalms 41
    Adam I would appreciate your view on the Sciptures below, God has shown me Translation errors in the KJV but they were not to deceive like Cult Versions and some other well known Bibles not yet reconized by many as having Cult deception in them too. In The Lord's Prayer we ask God not to lead us into Temptation but God tells us not to say He does in Jas1:13 should it say Keep us from it Mt26:41.
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 41
    Why do you assume there's a translation error and for what verse?
  • Right or Wrong - in Reply on Psalms 41
    Because it seems to be a Contradiction Adam, I'm sure Jesus would not tell us to say what His Father tells us not to say..... Matthew6:13 And lead us Not into Temptation..... James1:13 Let No Man say when he is Tempted I am Tempted of God.....So is it a Translation error Adam or am I misunderstanding it's wording ?

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