Psalms Chapter 23 Discussion

  • Meshack john on Psalms 23
    Your Comment...the care for his people and he will not aloud everything happen to his people except you break the henge
  • Joann mcintosh on Psalms 23
    Teach your children the way they should go
  • Dale on Psalms 23
    Approximately what time, (date), in the KJV Bible history, is the LAST communication God had with men?

    Scripture please.

    Thank you
  • Larus ahrendt on Psalms 23
    Why do some people try to change the bible holy bible of Jesus Christ written in hebrew is hard to find but I noticed some of the words have been removed and or replace with man's understanding or word they found to discredit the right words.can you explain
  • Dianne - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Hi larus The greatest challenge when it comes to Gods word is getting by what translators added or just didn't understand correctly, Gods word when originally given had no capital letters commas, question marks chapter headings, it was in manuscript form. Also the bible is an eastern book with eastern thought, in the Gospels Jesus Christ said it is easier for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Camel through eye of the needle is eastern thought. In light of that it is still The Truth as it says in 2 Peter 1:20+21 Holy men of God spake as they were moved by Holy Spirit. There are sources to help with this. God Bless
  • English sacha - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Hi Dianne , in London we have one of Cleopatra's needles , apparently , there were two of them outside Egyptian cities and all camels had to pass between them to entre the city but , the gap was very narrow so they had to unload their cargo that they were carrying in order to pass through the needles , so , the parable is basically about unburdening yourself of your worldly goods before you can enter the Kingdom of God .
  • Dianne - in Reply on Psalms 23
    English Sacha Its interesting you mention this another take I read from a book on eastern culture on this is in biblical times there was one large entrance to a city the gate and one small entrance behind it that was only large enough for a camel to go through with one rider on its knees, hence eye of the needle. I know that many things that Jesus Christ taught had eastern culture and thought tied to it. Thanks for the input its interesting. God Bless
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Hi Larus, do you have some examples of what you believe was changed? I've seen a lot of people claim this previously, but 100% of the claims were due to a misunderstanding of one thing or another. Also, are you talking about the KJV or another translation?
  • Dianne - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Hi Adam I bring to you something to think about, I believe that the Bible as originally given Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by Holy Spirit 2 Peter 1:20+21. That being said look at 1 Samuel 1:3 the two sons of Eli Hophni and Phinehas the priest of the lord were there. In 1 Samuel 2:12 it says the sons of Eli were sons of Belial they new not the lord. So the question is which were they? No this is not a trick just food for thought.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 23
    If I could interject Dianne. Actually, when I read your comment, I thought that you were inferring something else. So forgive me if I've misunderstood, but just to state the obvious: Hophni & Phinehas were indeed the (biological) sons of Eli. Then in 1 Samuel 2:12, they being referred to as "sons of belial" was a derogatory term for people who were useless, worthless, or scoundrels. And so they were, as seen in the following verses (13-17). But you would have known that - though it might help Larus & others.
  • Dianne - in Reply on Psalms 23
    I appreciate the input Brother God Bless.
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Looks like a trick to me. It appears to say different things and I don't see how you assume these are contradictory. Also, is your goal in posting this to sow doubt in others' minds? Is that what Jesus called you to do?
  • Dianne - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Adam The scriptures were not given in english and there were people helping to translate it, as I said I know the Bible as originally Given in 2 Peter 1:20+21 is given by inspiration of God. Also it is an eastern book with eastern thought that when brought to light makes it even deeper so no that has nothing to do with questioning the author. God Bless
  • Ralph on Psalms 23
    from whence arrived the TORAH?
  • Carl Tedrow on Psalms 23:3
    Psalm 23 is a complete verse of the bible. From the start to the finish.
  • Ella Daley on Psalms 23
    How to memorize scriptures?
  • Jesse - in Reply on Psalms 23

    Chris gave you some great advice. Repetition is the key. But you have to stick with it. I used to have a lot of scripture memorized to where I could quote verses and tell you what book, chapter, and verse it was I was quoting. All that from memory. But I've lost a lot of that. I still have a lot of scripture stuck in my brain but it's the memorizing of the book, chapter, and verse that I've lost a lot of.

    I think it's from leaving off of the word for a while to where I became dull of hearing. The apostle Paul used a lot of language in his letters that described what an athlete would have to do to keep in good physical condition, and it was through physical exercise. When a person does not get enough physical exercise, their muscles become weak.

    Paul used that as a means of telling us how to remain spiritually strong, and mentally aware of the things of the Lord. It's the same thing with God's word. If we are not in it continuously, we become weak spiritually, or as the scripture says, we become dull of hearing.

    As Chris has said, and I fully agree, it takes repetition and faithfulness on our part to remain in the word. Always approach the scripture in prayer, asking the Lord to teach you and to impress upon your heart the things he would have you to know and understand. Always be satisfied with what He gives you!
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Hello Ella. The old adage: "Repetition is the mother of learning" is useful here. But to be specific, Repetition can be very much the tool for memorization.

    I don't know whether you have specific verses that you want to memorize, or you are reading through the Bible & want to pick up on certain verses that speak to you & can be useful to you or others later. In either case, you would want to with God's Help (i.e. with prayer) commit that verse to your mind & heart & continue to repeat it. Then through the day & into the succeeding days continue to recall that verse, with its reference, so it becomes established in your heart. Some people have memorized whole chapters, even Bible books, but start off in a small way first & concentrate on some meaningful verses to you, or what your Pastor/Elder has preached about. The Word of God is a living Word, i.e. the Scriptures we hold in our hands are "God-breathed", or inspired & energized by God for our instruction & observance (2 Timothy 3:16), so you can rest assured that God's Spirit will enable you to not only memorize the Scriptures but to apply them to your life. May the Lord bless you in your study & plan for Scripture memorization.
  • Sacha - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Hi Douglas Grahame ,ive not heard of the book of mary however , i believe that the only person who could have told Luke all the details about Jesus birth and early life would have been Mary , who else would have been able to tell Luke so many little details ?
  • Sharon Wilkins on Psalms 23:2
    My souls know right well that the pastures are green and the waters are still ( at peace ) because Christ is there.
  • Quentin D Williams on Psalms 23
    does the bible name whom the others were who was casting out demons (In the name of Jesus)? The disciples made a complaint to jesus in (Mark 9:38 and luke 9:49)? Is there a more informative reference to this scripture? Thank you and have a blessed day.
  • Art Jernberg on Psalms 23
    Shalom and Multiple Divine Blessings!! Eternally!! :)
  • Denise Hoskins on Psalms 23:2
    I love Psalm 23 it is a Psalm my mother would recite this all through the day it was her favorite psalm, she taught it to me had me recite, taught me the true word of what this meant to the saved children of Christ. I now today read first before each bible study meditate upon it, and apply to every situation in my life. I may even find my self reciting through the day as well. Just wanted to share that,

    Forever Be Blessed All
  • Susan on Psalms 23
    Verse 2 God causes me to rest and obtain tranquility is this the interpretation I am looking for in this verse?
  • Ron - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Susan, you are pretty much on point, The Lord is our Shepherd and we are his sheep. Sheep knows its shepherd's voice. You can put several flocks of actual sheep together in one field and the shepherd can call his sheep and they will come to him. They trust he will keep them safe from the wolves in this world. We can put all our faith in our Shepherd, Jesus Christ, and have rest and peace we are saved in our salvation even if we face death, we are safe in eternity with Him.

    God bless, Ron
  • Susan - in Reply on Psalms 23

    Thank you for your reply. I have another question and this is in reference of Romans 8:26-27.

    Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

    I knew there were verses that explain how we don't always know what or how to pray or what to pray for or sometimes not knowing how to pray. People know a lot of words but sometimes there are no words.

    God seen to this with the Holy Spirit. The spirit prays for us in its own special code we don't understand but God does.

    Aint that Amazing?

    We must always pray without ceasing but know our Holy Spirit is also speaking to God for us as well.

    What a comforting feeling!!
  • Gifts of The Holy Spirit - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Susan, that was a great comment.

    Praying in the spirit happens. If you've ever been praying for the nation, or someone you know needs prayer, financial rescue, etc.

    And you bend over and groan, maybe rock a little, your mind is unable to grab scriptures; you ARE praying in the spirit.

    The Holy Spirit is with us, helping us to pray in the spirit, that thing that we can't vocalize. Later He's going to show you a scripture or passage that will help our understanding.

    There is set way that this happens. It happens in prayer. If our prayer life is lacking, we don't notice it so much. If I'm sitting in the closet in the floor, praying, asking the Holy Spirit to help me pray;

    Praying in the spirit happens. You feel great when you return to the world after. No better feeling than knowing that prayer got through to Jesus. Who ever lives to make intercession for the Saints. That's us! And that's them that we were praying for.

    Prophesying in a Church service is a Corporate prayer function of the Holy Spirit. There will be 2 or three people who are gifted by the Holy Spirit to interpret. If no interpreter is there: in my experience, the prophesy falls.

    1 Corinthians 12, 14, clearly tells us what the gifts are. We are told to covet the best gifts. Well, if we don't know what the gifts are and what they're for: it's not helpful to the body of Christ (that's us).

    If the Holy Spirit was a beautiful Colorado Spruce tree decorated with the GIFTS of the Spirit hanging on it (free to whosoever); there would be a mob. Jesus displayed ALL gifts of the Holy Spirit.

    On the day of Pentecost, Jesus presented believers, with the Holy Spirit. The 3rd person of the Godhead. Who co-created everything we know about creation. He's gentle and waits on us to DESIRE HIM. He alone chooses our Gift(s)

    Now go find out what the Gifts are. Do a study. Some people vocalize; others don't. Same Holy Spirit. Look for a teaching on Google.

  • Bev L on Psalms 23
    I just want a bit of insight regarding Psalms 23: 5---the table part. ("Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies"). I assume that it means that God even "feeds us" when there is danger about? BUT...I'm not sure.

    Thank you!

  • Peter Watson - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Psalm 23:5 "Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over."

    Bev, you are quite right to question the meaning of words, seemingly innocuous in the Bible. Many words are used symbolically to protect their meaning from mistranslation, modernising or misunderstanding.

    The 'table' as used in the Psalm describes a clear level-of-consciousness. John in his Revelation calls it: "a sea of glass, clear as crystal" -- which is safe from trespass and misuse. Oil is a symbol of love, and the 'cup' is our 'capacity-of-consciousness', not to be confused with the 'content-of-consciousness', which has been stuffed with images and superstitious beliefs that hinder, or block, the spontaneous flow of truth, which the mind is designed to process.

    We have the same table-symbol, used in the Temple-of-the-Lord scene, in which the money-lenders were abusing the purpose-of-life. By, 'turning the tables', Jesus was not having a human-nature fit of self-righteousness, but clearing the tables of false values. The Temple, our triune human capacity, is designed to focus our earthly interface with God's heavenly truth-of-love.

    I trust this helps; I've enjoyed the meditation, Peter.

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