Psalms Chapter 23 Discussion



 
  • Susan on Psalms 23
    Verse 2 God causes me to rest and obtain tranquility is this the interpretation I am looking for in this verse?
  • Ron - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Susan, you are pretty much on point, The Lord is our Shepherd and we are his sheep. Sheep knows its shepherd's voice. You can put several flocks of actual sheep together in one field and the shepherd can call his sheep and they will come to him. They trust he will keep them safe from the wolves in this world. We can put all our faith in our Shepherd, Jesus Christ, and have rest and peace we are saved in our salvation even if we face death, we are safe in eternity with Him.

    God bless, Ron
  • Susan - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Ron,

    Thank you for your reply. I have another question and this is in reference of Romans 8:26-27.

    Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

    I knew there were verses that explain how we don't always know what or how to pray or what to pray for or sometimes not knowing how to pray. People know a lot of words but sometimes there are no words.

    God seen to this with the Holy Spirit. The spirit prays for us in its own special code we don't understand but God does.

    Aint that Amazing?

    We must always pray without ceasing but know our Holy Spirit is also speaking to God for us as well.

    What a comforting feeling!!
  • Gifts of The Holy Spirit - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Susan, that was a great comment.

    Praying in the spirit happens. If you've ever been praying for the nation, or someone you know needs prayer, financial rescue, etc.

    And you bend over and groan, maybe rock a little, your mind is unable to grab scriptures; you ARE praying in the spirit.

    The Holy Spirit is with us, helping us to pray in the spirit, that thing that we can't vocalize. Later He's going to show you a scripture or passage that will help our understanding.

    There is set way that this happens. It happens in prayer. If our prayer life is lacking, we don't notice it so much. If I'm sitting in the closet in the floor, praying, asking the Holy Spirit to help me pray;

    Praying in the spirit happens. You feel great when you return to the world after. No better feeling than knowing that prayer got through to Jesus. Who ever lives to make intercession for the Saints. That's us! And that's them that we were praying for.

    Prophesying in a Church service is a Corporate prayer function of the Holy Spirit. There will be 2 or three people who are gifted by the Holy Spirit to interpret. If no interpreter is there: in my experience, the prophesy falls.

    1 Corinthians 12, 14, clearly tells us what the gifts are. We are told to covet the best gifts. Well, if we don't know what the gifts are and what they're for: it's not helpful to the body of Christ (that's us).

    If the Holy Spirit was a beautiful Colorado Spruce tree decorated with the GIFTS of the Spirit hanging on it (free to whosoever); there would be a mob. Jesus displayed ALL gifts of the Holy Spirit.

    On the day of Pentecost, Jesus presented believers, with the Holy Spirit. The 3rd person of the Godhead. Who co-created everything we know about creation. He's gentle and waits on us to DESIRE HIM. He alone chooses our Gift(s)

    Now go find out what the Gifts are. Do a study. Some people vocalize; others don't. Same Holy Spirit. Look for a teaching on Google.

    Mishael
  • Bev L on Psalms 23
    I just want a bit of insight regarding Psalms 23: 5---the table part. ("Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies"). I assume that it means that God even "feeds us" when there is danger about? BUT...I'm not sure.

    Thank you!

    Bev
  • Peter Watson - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Psalm 23:5 "Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over."

    Bev, you are quite right to question the meaning of words, seemingly innocuous in the Bible. Many words are used symbolically to protect their meaning from mistranslation, modernising or misunderstanding.

    The 'table' as used in the Psalm describes a clear level-of-consciousness. John in his Revelation calls it: "a sea of glass, clear as crystal" -- which is safe from trespass and misuse. Oil is a symbol of love, and the 'cup' is our 'capacity-of-consciousness', not to be confused with the 'content-of-consciousness', which has been stuffed with images and superstitious beliefs that hinder, or block, the spontaneous flow of truth, which the mind is designed to process.

    We have the same table-symbol, used in the Temple-of-the-Lord scene, in which the money-lenders were abusing the purpose-of-life. By, 'turning the tables', Jesus was not having a human-nature fit of self-righteousness, but clearing the tables of false values. The Temple, our triune human capacity, is designed to focus our earthly interface with God's heavenly truth-of-love.

    I trust this helps; I've enjoyed the meditation, Peter.
  • Sacha - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Its about Jesus ,there are tons of references to Jesus in the old testament ,its a real joy to read them and discover how the old and new testaments are linked .
  • Bev L - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Thank you, Sasha! I'll have to look for the links! We know that He has always existed, so it would make sense that He would be in EVERYTHING!
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Your understanding of this verse is quite correct. The whole Psalm by David is a recollection of his earlier life as a shepherd when he once cared rigorously for his sheep, but now he sees himself as that sheep being cared for by his Great Shepherd.

    So, I see verse 5 as a probable continuation of verse 4: when by even walking through those valleys in life that give him no light, no joy, a sense of despair & hopelessness, with even the fear of death pervading in its shadows, the Lord, his Shepherd, had not left him. Even if his enemies surrounded him or entrapped him in that valley of hopelessness & fear, God would still provide bountifully for him in every way (in such abundance, that he likened this to a feast at a celebration, where the table was full of food, he would be anointed or refreshed, as a special guest in those days would be, & there would be no shortage in food or drink). Such was David's God & his utter reliance upon Him to sustain him & deliver him, no matter the circumstance.

    And to think, that David's God is our God as well & God hasn't changed or diminished in His Love. And even more so, we as His blood-bought children, made heirs of His Kingdom, enjoying the fruits of our salvation & all that Heaven provides us, both now & into eternity.
  • Bev L - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Thank you, so much! I was worried that there might be some meaning about which I know nothing. I've only been Yahvah's true child for about 6 years (and I'm OLD), so I am Young in the Word. I keep digging and loving it more and more the deeper I dig! Thank you for sharing! He IS amazing!! --Bev
  • ERECH CHRIST NIMROD on Psalms 23
    The LORD is My FATHER I shall not want. -Psalms 23:1. Peace. Namaste.
  • NOEL on Psalms 23
    Steven,

    WELL SAID: You put a smile on my face, may God continue to bless you
  • Steven Chapin on Psalms 23
    My Shepherd

    My shepherd is the Lord, my King.

    I'll never lack for any thing.

    The greenest pastures are my bed,

    for I have followed where He led.

    He leads to waters calm, and still

    where it is safe to drink my fill.

    His blessings onto me are poured.

    My very soul is thus restored.

    His righteousness he teaches me.

    There is no better way to be.

    If risk of death dare to appear,

    I'll not be struck with any fear.

    My Lord is with me all the way.

    His rod and staff keep wolves at bay.

    The table where He'd have me dine

    has seats for enemies of mine.

    His oil anoints me, cool and mild,

    thus proving that I am His child.

    With bounty, He has blessed me, so

    that soon, my cup may overflow.

    His goodness occupies my mind.

    His mercy follows close behind.

    With Him, forever, I shall live,

    the greatest gift that He can give.

    By Steven Chapin

    January 28
  • Rod - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Great new version of Psalms 23, Thank you
  • Bev L - in Reply on Psalms 23
    THIS is BEAUTIFUL! I'm copying it! Might I, please, share it if I cite you as the author? It's too wonderful to hide under a bushel or under a bed. ;)
  • Steven Chapin - in Reply on Psalms 23
    If you would like to share it with my name attached, please feel free to do so. I believe that God inspired me to write it so that it might be shared.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Lovely inspiring words, adding to the richness of the Psalm. Thank you very much for sharing that, Steven.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Psalms 23
    Great song brother Steven. Praised be the Lord for ever and ever!
  • Saint Loren on Psalms 23:3
    I have been taught that God inhabits our praise. As I get references tp Psalms 23:3 yet I can not find a translation that says that. Is there such a scripture?
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 23:3
    You were nearly there :) Try Psalm 22:3. Though this refers to Israel yet it too is our experience, when we "offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name." (Hebrews 13:15).
  • Richard in Christ on Psalms 23:3
    Just some scripture stating that Jesus and the Father are two. John 8:

    16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

    17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of TWO men is true.

    18 I am one that bear WITNESS of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth WITNESS of me.
  • Mike on Psalms 23:3
    Several years ago I had a wonderful revelation regarding the part of this psalm that was quite unexpected and never forgotten. I think I may have been struggling with some type of illness looking for inspiration. The valley of the SHADOW of death is ultimately harmless because it's just fear.....just another mist that must be seen through to understand it's NOTHINGNESS. There is no SUBSTANCE in a SHADOW so what the psalmist is actually saying is that death is unreal as is disease (dis-ease), sin, poverty (living a Godless life), etc. These are nothing more than false concepts which is what Jesus tried to teach. If he hadn't understood these false narratives as being false he wouldn't have been able to do the wonderous works that he achieved. GOD IS ALL.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Psalms 23:3
    Mike, "death is unreal" - Death is very real, in fact, there is a second death. Revelation 20:14 The first death is separation from the body/Earth, and the second is eternal separation from God and to the eternal torment. "The wages of sin is death" Romans 6:23 Very real, and nobody else in the scriptures had more to say about hell and damnation than Jesus.
  • Rick Mentzer - in Reply on Psalms 23:3
    Good call mild Bill from rick
  • Jim on Psalms 23
    The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

    He makethme to lie down in green pastures:he leadeth me beside still waters. He restoreth my soul:he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

    Yea,Though I walk through the valley of the shallow of death, I will fear no evil: for thouare with me;they rod and staff they comfort me. Thou prepared a table before me in the presence of my enemies: thou anointed my head with oil; my cup runners over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the lord for ever. God is all I will ever need, yes he fight for me and comfort me when fear try to take my joy away. Trust him, glorify my God, he will not lead you a stray. God is
  • Minnie Stout on Psalms 23
    Love this bible, god is so good to me, i am so thankfuil. i am so blessed.thank you for having this on the comuter, so i can read god,s word daily, god bless......
  • Ann on Psalms 23:2
    The Holy Ghost spoke the words "still waters" while in prayer. I know that God wants me to rest in Him, he has a great plan for my life. First, I must taste of His goodness and know that He is God!
  • Hunger and Thirst For More of Jesus - in Reply on Psalms 23:2
    Jesus said "I AM the Bread of Life".

    The Word of God, is bread.

    Jesus told satan out in the desert on a 40 day fast: IT IS WRITTEN..........

    Satan lost every argument.

    We need to be so full of the Bible, that satan doesn't have a chance to deceive us.

    Two scriptures work well together:

    1 Perfect Love (Jesus) Casts out...Fear (big demon)

    2 Fear hath Torments (he has other demons that torment us.

    Jesus gives us the Authority to use His Name, and His Word: to bind the demons,

    Cast them into outer darkness, forbid their return;

    To set the captives free, to set at liberty those who are bruised and to heal them.

    Tiny testimony: one time when I was a baby Christian, I saw myself in a vision of what Jesus saw in me.

    "A big table was laid out with fabulous food: milk, meat, pizza, barbecue...". I had my elbows up and was dragging food over to my plate, eating like I was starved. To my right I hear this most wonderful laughing. I look up a sec to see other people's eyes bugged out. I slump down with a chicken leg in my fist and I look to see who's laughing: it was Jesus! He was leaning back in His throne laughing with me; not at me."

    Jesus wants us to have a healthy appetite for His Word; the Bible. Ask and The Holy Spirit will Teach you EVERYTHING.

    Earlier that day an older Christian saw something I was reading and he shouted at me loud, "you cannot read college level Bible!!!! Get back into Bible Milk". He stalked off and left me feeling really stupid.

    ( I had been reading how the Body of Christ is to work together.)

    There is a reason to choose the Holy Spirit to be your Teacher; he helps us Pray; He tells us how to war and win.

    If this encourages you to wade in deep with Jesus, the you are the one Jesus was looking at. You can have as much as you desire. He rejoices in your efforts. We are HIS BODY. If you draw close to Him, He will draw close to you.

    Best of all pleasure you can have, is to hear Jesus's laugh. He's real.
  • Ann - in Reply on Psalms 23:2
    Thank you for the encouraging words! Blessings to you!


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