Psalms Chapter 23 Discussion Page 2



 
  • Suze - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    Hi Kathy , the best place to look for the answers to all your questions is defo the Bible . If you haven't yet read it please do , im sure you will enjoy it and possibly be very surprised by some of the things you will discover in there , for example , you might discover that it doesn't say anywhere that people go to heaven , Jesus did but I believe he was a very special case , Acts Ch 4 V 1+2 and 1st Thessalonians Ch 4 V 13-18 . There are very many verses that speak of humans being resurrected at the return of Christ and us dwelling on earth with Christ after his return and our resurrection . I can't find one verse that plainly states that we will live in heaven with God and Jesus . Please don't take my word for any of this , I urge you to read the Bible for yourself with an open heart and mind , much love to you in Christ .
  • GiGi - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    Kathy,

    I did reply to your question but it did not show up on this thread. It appears on page one of the Discussion comments.
  • ELB - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    Kathy:

    Man doesn't go to a PLACE, heaven of hell.

    John 3:13 No man has ascended up to heaven, except he that came down from heaven, even the Son of Man which now IS IN HEAVEN; IN MAN.

    Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery .......Christ in you ....

    We are JUST A BODY; THE NEW HEAVEN, where the LIFE of CHRIST dwells.

    When he pulls THE LIFE out of the BODY (human flesh) that fleshly bodies dies.

    The LIFE goes back to God who gave THE BODY LIFE.

    When we depart this fleshly body we instantly are GIVEN a NEW BODY, the BODY of CHRIST.

    .

    The kingdom of heaven is IMMORTAL LIFE.

    The only man that has IMMORTAL LIFE is Christ.

    1 Corinthians 15:38 ...and to every SEED, HIS (CHRIST) OWN BODY ......

    John 14:6 I am Life ....

    Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high,

    Psalms 82:7 But ye (flesh and blood, this earthly body) shall die like one of the princes ...

    LIFE can never DIE, only this body of flesh DIES: LIFE continues in a NEW BODY.

    God Bless YOU!
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    Romans 14:7-12, Philippians 2:1-11, Matthew 7,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Kathy on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    If a family member does not go to heaven because they never received Salvation, will I know that they aren't in heaven?
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    Kurt,

    Here is a scripture I just found for you : Psalms 25:16-18

    I believe you can forgive now. Matthew 6:14, Mark 11:25,

    In the last few years GOD has placed forgiveness on my thoughts for people, some had already passed. Some wrongs I had forgotten but as I remembered, GOD would remind me to forgive.

    There are moments we have deep regrets, especially when a loved one is passed on. I have prayed similarly as you & felt peace because nothing is impossible with GOD, Luke 1:37, Mark 10:27, Luke 18:27, Matthew 19:26,
  • Kurt Vanloo on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    Why did i not for give my bothers and tell them how much i miss them tell

    god i pary two my family up in heavin a above
  • PSALM 23 The Lord our Shepherd - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    Psalm 23:4, addressing the Lord Shepherd, says, "Your rod and your staff, they comfort me." David bases this description on the practices of shepherds in his day. Shepherds of the time commonly carried a rod and staff as essential to their work.

    The rod mentioned in Psalm 23 is a symbol of the Lord's strength and protection. The rod was a sturdy wooden stick used as a weapon to fight off wild animals who might have hoped to make an easy meal out of an otherwise defenseless flock of sheep. The shepherd also used the rod to help him keep count of the sheep within the flock (as alluded to in Leviticus 27:32). Young David recounted an incident to King Saul in which he probably used his shepherd's rod: "Your servant has been keeping his father's sheep. When a lion or a bear came and carried off a sheep from the flock, I went after it, struck it and rescued the sheep from its mouth. When it turned on me, I seized it by its hair, struck it and killed it" ( 1 Samuel 17:34-35).

    The staff mentioned in Psalm 23 is a symbol of the Lord's guidance and lovingkindness. The staff was a long, slender stick, often hooked at the tip, used primarily to direct the flock. Sheep are notorious wanderers, and once away from the shepherd's watchful eye, they get into all sorts of trouble ( Matthew 18:12-14). The shepherd used his staff to keep his sheep out of danger and close to himself. If a sheep became trapped in a precarious position, the shepherd would loop the curved end of the staff around the neck of the sheep and retrieve it back to safety.

    Now read Psalm 23 again. Guidance, protection and correction. If you feel an occasional TUG by the Spirit, that is your Lord correcting your course.
  • STUDYING SCRIPTURE ONLINE - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    Type your scripture in Google like this:

    Psalm 23, Commentary

    Or Meaning, Or History, Or Teaching, Or Genealogy

    I pick the links with the word:BIBLE

    in it. Like BibleHub

    You will learn alot this way. What the scriptures call, MEAT.
  • Anonymous on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    How does stuff and rod can "comfort" me?) there's wrong translation. In original text "rod" has meaning "clan", "society", "family". "stuff" has meaning "support", and "comfort" has meaning "appeasement", "harmony". I prefer to "my famy and they're support can appeasement me" instead "rod and stuff can comfort me")
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    Psalms 23,

    Rod: Exodus 4:17,

    Job 9:34, Job 21:9, Psalms 2:9, Psalms 89:32, Psalms 125:3, Proverbs 10:13, Proverbs 13:24, Proverbs 22:15, Proverbs 23:13,14, Proverbs 26:3,

    Proverbs 29:15, Isaiah 9:4, Isaiah 10:5, Isaiah 10:15, Isaiah 10:26, Isaiah 11:1,4, Jeremiah 10:16, Revelation 12:25,

    Staff: Genesis 32:10, Genesis 38:18, Exodus 12:17, Exodus 21:19, Leviticus 26:26, Numbers 13:23, Judges 6:21, 2Samuel 3:29, 2Samuel 23:7,21, 2Kings 4:29,31, 2Kings 18:21, Isaiah 3:1, Isaiah 14:5, Isaiah 28:27,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Akeila Jobe - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    Remember David is comparing God to a Shepherd... so, therefore, the shepherds use rods and staffs to tend to the flock.

    Guiding them in which way to go.

    So we are the sheep...so David uses these instruments to make a comparison.
  • Dav47 - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    The only 2 things carried by the Shepherd. The former for defense the latter for help. Comfort here means gently lead; a good lesson for Pastors to gently lead their flock and ready to defend them when necessary. Rod in Heb means a club, is used to ward off the enemies that come against the sheep who are defenseless and the staff we lean on and they used with the hook to even grab a sheep out of a ditch. Our sword is the WORD of GOD and our comfort we find in CHRIST who became our passover-rest. What we cant handle HE is quick to help all those who love HIM.
  • Joshua - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    His rod is the Word, His authority and His staff is the Holy Spirit that guides.
  • Charlie Churchwell on Psalms 23 - 1 year ago
    What is meant by the rod and staff in pslams 23 ?
  • Kay - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    Not sure where to find it in the Psalms, but here is a verse in relation to your question:

    1Corinthians 9:18(NKJV)

    "What is my reward then? Verily, that when I preach the gospel, I make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel."
  • Kay - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    Not sure where to find it in the Psalms, but here is a verse in relation to your question:

    1Corinthians 9:18(NKJV)

    "What is my reward then? Verily, that when I preach the gospel, I make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel."
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    The words "Usury" & "leasing" mean to make money from additional fees like "interest rates" additional profit from the person "giving" usury is "unusualy high rates" Leasing also meaning lying, falsehood.

    Exodus 22:25, Leviticus 25:35-43, Deuteronomy 23:19, Ezekiel 22:12,29,

    Psalms 15:5, Proverbs 28:2,

    Ezekiel 18,

    Hopefully these are helpful also
  • Jesse - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    Paul,

    I do not know of verse in Psalms that says that, but in 1 Corinthians 9:16-18, the apostle Paul touches on this. In Verse 17, he says, "For if I do this thing willingly, (that is, voluntarily), I have (Present Tense), a reward:

    There are many pastors and ministers that would probably disagree with this, but if they voluntarily and willingly wanted to be in ministry, and they get a paycheck for it, that would be their reward!

    In Verse 18, he says what is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, so that I abuse not my authority in the gospel.

    There are many people in the ministry that need to be challenged, especially those on the television that continuously say we need more money. I am often tempted to call in and tell these ministers to go out and get a job. Most of these ministers are pulling in a minimum $150,000 dollars a year, some much more, and their ministry is running out of money?

    Well, I say go get a job! If you do that, your ministry saves $150,000, and you just continue to preach the gospel. If you're running out of money, go and sell one of your multi-million dollar homes or your private jet and use that money where it needs to be used, not on yourself.

    But you know, that doesn't go over too well with these ministers! I have to wonder what their response would be if you were to ask them to preach the gospel free of charge, as Paul did.
  • Kay - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    Could it be you're thinking of Matthew 10:8? "Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give."

    I checked in my Bible to see if there were any cross reference to a psalm, and there wasn't.

    Hoping this helps!

    Blessings!
  • Paul Kanter on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    I am trying to find the Psalm verse to give the word for free and charge not.
  • Steven Spencer - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    "Hi Cathy.

    I concur with Mell and brother Jesse.

    I would like to highlight a few things,

    1st. The lord uses that staff to shepherd only his own.

    2nd. The fact that after we become a part of the sheepfold and a staff is needed to keep his sheep in line It means two things. One is the sheep definitely will stray without the keeping power of our Great Shepherd.

    Secondly, if we supposedly come into the sheepfold and get lost, We were never really part of the sheepfold and the Lord was never our Great shepherd.

    It reminds me of John 10:25-30. "Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

    But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

    My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

    And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

    My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

    I and my Father are one."

    God bless."
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    Hi Cathy.

    I concur with Mell and brother Jesse.

    I would like to highlight a few things,

    1st. The lord uses that staff to shepherd only his own.

    2nd. The fact that after we become a part of the sheepfold and a staff is needed to keep his sheep in line It means two things. One is the sheep definitely will stray without the keeping power of our Great Shepherd.

    Secondly, if we supposedly come into the sheepfold and get lost, We were never really part of the sheepfold and the Lord was never our Great shepherd.

    It reminds me of John 10:25-30. "Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

    But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

    My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

    And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

    My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

    I and my Father are one."

    God bless.
  • MelI Caraballo - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    In Psalms 23 It shows Gods ability to take care of us. The Rod was used by the Shepard to fight of animals that were attacking the sheep it was short and pointy. The staff was used to keep the Sheep from straight It was long and hooked at the end. In the same way God can protect us from evil and keep us in the straight and narrow.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    Cathy,

    This is Jewish terminology. Shepherds carried a rod and staff. The shepherd would use the rod to protect his sheep from an attacking predator. If I'm not mistaken, the staff was like a cane with a hooked end on it, and the shepherd would use the hooked end to pull one of his sheep back to the flock when the sheep was going astray.

    The Lord is our shepherd. We are His sheep. We find comfort in knowing that His rod will protect us, and His staff will pull us back to Himself when we begin to wander, as sheep tend to do. Jesus Christ, our good shepherd, He is our comfort!
  • Cathy on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    Thy rod and thy staff they comfort me, what is the rod and the staff?
  • GiGi - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    Hello

    Grandma JoJo,

    Good to meet you here.

    The Bible does not tell us much about Noah's wife. But if she protested much, I am sure we would have! She was most likely godly like Noah, desiring to walk God's way along with being supportive of Noah and his work constructing the ark. She probably helped build it! It will be interesting meeting these people in heaven and finding out "The rest of the story", as Paul Harvey would say.
  • Free - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    Thank you "Grandma JoJo Preiser", when you say it that way, it seems really different from everything else stable and good. Easter greetings from Northern Scandinavia to you all.

    Matthew 22
  • Grandma JoJo Preiser on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    My favorite wife in the Bible.....Noah's wife....the town neighbors thought the ark was strange, gathering of the animals interesting, locking themselves in with all the animals and family members a bit odd. Then 40 days inside with no toilets or running water, then landed on a mountain, let most animals free and began rebuilding a new home without a plumbers, electricity and no lowes or homedepot. Kind of like a prehistoric cruise. God bless your week and Easter weekend. Jody, grandma from the outer banks, north Carolina.
  • James Sides on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    I want to say I Jay Sides want exalt and lift you up and I want say I my Jesus Christ my GOD


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