Psalms Chapter 2 Discussion

  • Kay - in Reply on Psalms 2
    I have to say with Adam who also replied that I am not aware of the incident with Cotton Mather.

    I hope I can offer some encouragement, though, Linda.

    First of all, be at peace knowing that all judgment has been given by God the Father to His Holy, Righteous Son, Jesus Christ, the Messiah. Each one of us will appear before Him; and Cotton Mather will give an account of his deeds, and will be judged accordingly. God is good and wise, and He will do the right thing by all parties concerned.

    Secondly, Jesus was very clear on several things. He tells us that hatred in the heart is murder. If you are angry and hateful over what seems to be injustices done in the past, then you, dear Linda, are no better than Cotton Mather was. We see so clearly the mote in others' eyes, and fail to see the beam in our own eye. Hatred is 'heart murder', i.e., we'd murder someone if we could get away with it.

    Jesus also told us to love our enemies, to pray for those who despitefully use us, because God Himself gives blessings to those who serve Him and to those who do not. By doing so, we conform ourselves to God, instead of conforming ourselves to the devil, 'the god of this world."

    Jesus told us to pray to the Father, 'forgive us our trespasses AS WE FORGIVE those who trespass against us", further explaining that if we do not forgive, neither will the Father forgive us! THAT is scary, Linda! Is it worth your eternal soul, to harbor grudges against others, and risk leaving this earth unforgiven yourself? What FREEDOM you would experience if you forgive and FORGET, because FORGETTING what 'they' did to me/us is a huge part of forgiving! How wonderful you will feel! If you can't do this on your own (and none of us can!), ask Jesus to help you!

    You are heaven-laden with all of the resentments for the past, yet Jesus invites you to cast your burdens on Him; release these cares to Jesus, and pick up your cross and follow Him.

    Grace to you, Linda...
  • John anonymous - in Reply on Psalms 2
    Peace to you.

    For what it may be worth:

    "Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." Genesis 9:3-6

    "...blood it defileth the land: and the land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein, but by the blood of him that shed it." Numbers 35:33

    According to John Chapter 9, sinners can be born in the flesh again (and their blood can be shed so the land can be cleansed).
  • K. TICE - in Reply on Psalms 2
    Abraham Lincoln also freed slaves while he had slaves. As a native myself I hold no grudges or hate for anyone who did wrong hundreds of years ago or yesterday. Christ sat with the man who was to betray Him and Christ loved him. The Bible wasn't written by only one man but a handful over a 1500 yr time span, in 3 languages and on 3 continents. It's time to learn and grow from the past, not keep repeating it and holding onto hate for what happened
  • Our Future Was Written in the Bible - in Reply on Psalms 2
    gilderlehrmanDOTorg. skip down to the pdf files

    I know how hurtful this is for you. We need to remember why Europeans migrated to THE NEW WORLD. To get away from oppression, however some brought it here with them. Not everybody shunned their lust to cleanse the new world of its former inhabitants.

    In a way similar to what the Jews experience in Israel today. Everyone trying to drive them out of land that God made a covenant to give to them.

    It was evil what Europeans did to the people of Native America. They didn't understand your religion; and you were pushed off of your native lands.

    My ancestors, Cajuns, immigrated to Canada, and moved south all the way to Bogalusa Louisiana. No one wanted us either. But we became Christians and tried to live in peace.

    All of us are taught the history of how Native Americans were driven further away from the Europeans settlements. Similar to how the Jews would be driven away from their land. Almost eradicated by Hitler. They hid as Catholics. Now all those people who hid in other lands are returning to their homeland in Israel.

    The harm done in the past cannot be fixed until we all join in belief of God, and His son Jesus. Jesus Submitted to be crucified by unbelievers so he could save us and take us to heaven. Away from systems and beliefs of earth, those that don't follow His Provision of Salvation.

    At the end of 1000 years we will return to a restored Earth. Like it was in the beginning. He's the only one who can heal us from 6000 years of mistreatment and being homeless at times. We will live as one body in heaven. No separation. All equal. We will all have the same Father.

    If we can trust Him, this can be reality. He adopts us, and we adopt Him. Will you ask Him into your heart today? Trust Him to right the wrongs, and erase the memories. To give you the right to be His beloved child, forever. I pray the Holy Spirit to help you trust.

  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 2
    Hi Linda,

    I don't know anything about the person or event you are referring to, but it's a common smear tactic to find someone who committed evil and to blame something that person may have associated with at one point of time in their life. But when someone chooses to commit evil and violate the Bible's teachings how is that the fault of anyone other than the one who chose evil?

    God bless...
  • Linda Wilson Whitmire on Psalms 2
    I am Native American, and I am unhappy that these verses were used by Cotton Mather to lend credibility to the massacre of Native American women, children and old men. What do you have to say about this?
  • T. Levis - in Reply on Psalms 2
    David himself had respect unto GOD & who GOD anointed even when that anointed saught to kill David continuously 2Samuel 1:14, 1Samuel 26:9,

    John 11:2,

    This, Psalms 2, seems to me, to point to JESUS The MESSIAH, Promised one the one Savior to save all mankind, who will believe, Psalms 2:2

    Psalms 2:7, look at JESUS during His baptism, Mark 1:11, Matthew 3:17, & Acts 13:33, Hebrews 1:5, Hebrews 5:5,

    Psalms 2:8, JESUS when He was taken to the high place to be tempted, Matthew 4:8-10,

    Psalms 2:2, when the rulers, the kings set themselves against Him, Acts 4:25-27, Luke 4:18,

    JESUS coming to HIS own people, rejected by them Isaiah 53, Matthew 21:37-39,

    Revelation 21:7

    Hope this helps clarify
  • Mishael - in Reply on Psalms 2
    You have got to Google

    King James Bible, history, council

    I read the whole story of how the King James Bible came into book form, so everyone could read it.

    Many people did not want it. They burned people at stake for smuggling pieces of it so everyone could read it.

    You'll love it
  • James helligar on Psalms 2
    who was king james
  • It is Written - in Reply on Psalms 2
    Yes, it is written indeed. And you can get it in audio too!
  • Terry carr on Psalms 2
    It is written.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Psalms 2
    Hi Claudette.

    Are you knew to the site? If so we welcome you and thanks for visiting.

    God bless you.
  • Claudette Lute on Psalms 2
    Hi God is good
  • Manuel marques teixeira on Psalms 2
    When someone needs a medical doctor, there are conditions upon wich, they should relate between them!

    The doctor is not obliged to treat every one that thinks that he needs a doctor.

    The doctor is obliged to treat well the patient that he accepts to be his patient.

    Everything the doctor says, regarding his treatment, the patient must obey.

    There is a uge responsability that obliges the doctor towords his patient.

    When the patient dont obey, the medical obligation ceasses! The doctor may, still, explain the consequences, depending on the circunstances that drive the patientsmotivation.

    Its written:- The Lord our God, is a consuming fire, and also that He says come and lets talk about your reasons, lets reason between you and Me.

    When a man dies, terminates his oportunity, because its for the living that the gospel exists. There is no presching or reasoning with the dead, as its written on Eclesiates, chapter 9. 4 and 5. and on Isaias 8.20. Jesus rested while in the tumb, as son of man, like He said about Lzaruss that he was sleeping, or inconscient!
  • Jeff - in Reply on Psalms 2
    The secret things of God's are His. Man cannot know the things of God unless God himself reveals these things to man through His spirit. people that do not know God personally cannot understand the things of the spirit of God for these things are but foolishness to them. Once a man has entered into relationship with God through His Son Jesus he will begin to understand the things of the spirit of God through God's revealing things to him as God feels he is ready for it. Thus the question asking where did God come from? Cannot be understood by someone that does not know God. Until they have received Him; God does not equipped them with the ability to understand what it is that He reveals to us in His time and in His way. The secret things are God's alone. That is where faith comes in , believing in what i cannot see as God has said it to us we believe it even though we cannot see it. It is a heart thing. You will feel it in your heart and just know that the Words written in Gods book are true because they are spoken by Him. The Holy Spirit of God allows it. You do not question because your heart is at peace knowing that the God of the universe who existed before anything else existed just simply was and is. as He says He did and is. I don't know how else to say it.

    But it literally happened to me. I always had to figure things out and break it down and determine how something works. But God has broken me of that in the areas of knowing Him at least, and trusting him, and understanding much of what He shows and says to me. I would have never in my wildest dreams ever thought something could be such as this. That a person that I cannot see could speak to me Even though I cannot see Him or hear Him audibly. Now I am blessed with being able to understand day by day little nuggets or Jules of instruction, guidance, corrections that I need to make, And a to do list of things I need to do in mY life. He feeds me what He knows that I need to hear or experience or do.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Psalms 2

    That is a great question. The bible teaches us that God is eternal, meaning He has no beginning and no end. By faith, we believe that God is the creator of all things. No one created God. He has just been in existence throughout eternity. That seems hard to conceptualize because we live in a time/space factor. But what would be easier, to believe He has always been in existence, or to try and figure out who or what God came from?

    If we take the latter route, then we would have an endless cycle of trying to figure out who the one before God came from, and who came before that, over and over and over again. It would never end!
  • Norman Walker - in Reply on Psalms 2
    No one knows where God came from unless he has told someone. One thing to always remember nothing is impossible with God! That is like trying to explain why there are bones of animals that they say are millions of years old. God could have put them on the earth millions of years ago and did not like them, nothing is impossible. There is a lot to say about history when a day is like a thousand years to God. Jesus will have to judge billions of people when he comes down and I have always wondered how he would do that? Maybe one day we will know all the answers but more than likely will not care about that then. Nothing at all is impossible with God, nothing!
  • Mary on Psalms 2
    Where did God come from?
  • Kaezen Thompson on Psalms 2
    This is a good vers
  • Murray Codorwel Vengethasamy on Psalms 2
    I am 72 years old, raised in a Communal home of Hindus, Muslims and Jehovahs Witnesses. All wonderful people.

    I have read many hundreds of books, and have taught Mathematics and Computer Science to Secondary School and FET College learners. I still develop software and I have many certificates of achievements.

    On reflecting, I am thankful that I have realized, just as the Apostle Paul did, that above everything in my life stands :

    JESUS CHRIST and HIM crucified.

    Read : 1Corinthians 2:2 "For I determined not to know any thing among you, 'save Jesus Christ, and Him crucified"

    The BIBLE is the greatest BOOK that I have ever read, because I have learnt from it who GOD is:

    Read : Jeremiah 9:23-24 "Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches.

    But let him who glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise loving kindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.

    I would like you to know that I have experienced these WORDS in my lifetime and still do.

    Therefore, I urge every person everywhere to hearken to the WORDS of GOD, for God is no respecter of persons.

    The wonderful things that HE did and does for me and many, many other Christians , He will do for you.

    I therefore, would like to put a loving challenge to you :

    When you read the Bible, Humble yourself and sincerely ask GOD in JESUS' name to grant you the understanding and knowledge about HIM. You will be AMAZED!
  • Bryan on Psalms 2
    When reading the king James version, you read who so ever believeth is there any different meeting to that word then believe that is used other places in the King James version of the Bible ?
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Psalms 2
    Hello Adam,

    You are correct. What happened I don't know. As I hit reply to a comment made by Bob. Which I still have the screen to though that comment seems to have been removed even though there is no history to it that we usually see. I did notice this after I made the post and if an e-mail was sent to William hopefully, by the contents, he notes it was to Bob.

    As I'm not going to argue with anyone about this. Especially who will not converse maturely. I have to back up our Lord. As you do also very well with other brothers and sisters in Christ on this site. It really saddens me to see what some people post.

    Maybe just some questions I would have asked Bob if He knows so much about the Lord:

    Who is the King, on the Throne, in Heaven?

    Who are we to stand before on the day of Judgement?

    Who is the Light?

    Who is all powerful in Heaven and in Earth?

    Who has the power to forgive sins?

    Who is our Savior?

    Who's Spirit resides in us after we are "born again"?

    Who baptizes with the Holy Ghost?

    Not that I expect an answer from him to any of these questions. Maybe it will hopefully just get him to read his Holy Bible more and I pray his eyes shall be opened to the truth.

    Thanks Adam. God Bless.
  • Rob - in Reply on Psalms 2
    I think you are being judgemental Spence , not all people think the Trinity is good .
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Psalms 2
    Hi Bob,

    Don't let what you're not concerned about upset you,

    There's nothing constructive when it leads to hate, When the truth of the word is working in us it brings on fruit. A friendly debate can be helpful, but on character is on display here.

    Let's not let disagreements consume us. God bless.
  • Bob - in Reply on Psalms 2
    I'm not at all concerned about a god that only exists in trintarin minds
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 2
    Dear Richard, did you reply to the right person? It sounds like maybe you were trying to sent this to Bob and you used some strong words here.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Psalms 2
    Wow. You shall be in my prayers. You just stated the Father, the Son(Jesus Christ), and the Holy Ghost are confused? It is clear you do not believe the Scriptures and have your own carnal idea of God. Matthew 12:32, Matthew 12:36.

    Also you do not believe, or understand, the words of Christ like John 10:30?

    You know God says listen to His Son right? Matthew 17:5. Even further like the Angel of the LORD in the OT. Exodus 23:20-22.

    Also to glorify the Son is to glorify the Father. As they are ONE. John 14:13-14. The only way to eternal life is through the Son of God. John 14:6. 1 John 5:11-13.

    God is ONE. I pray the Lord leads you to leave your own beliefs behind and trust Him and His Word.

    You seem to believe in the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Though you seem to doubt who the Lord is just like the Pharisees did. Bringing Him down to "just a man". Matthew 5:20.

    God Bless.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Psalms 2
    Hi Bob,

    You never answered my question from the last post.

    Though you seem to have your own idea and don't think God can do anything He wants?

    Again we use Scripture. It is truth. If you don't believe the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are ONE. You are just not believing Scripture.

    Try not to think your earthly mind can understand the ways of the Lord. Isaiah 40:28, Isaiah 55:8-9.

    God Bless.
  • William - in Reply on Psalms 2
    Dear Bob,

    Im assuming you are serious so Ill ask you a question... Have you ever talked to yourself? Who is talking and who is listening?

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Rom 1:20"

    God is who he says HE IS, whether we understand it or not.

    That is hard to accept because pride and human reasoning get in our way.

    Read Pauls answer to another question that cannot be answered by our frame of reference.

    " Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?"

    It's actually a good question from our point of reference. God asks us to believe, "That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God 1Cor 2:5". and "without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him Heb 11:6"

    Understanding will be given to us if we are believe first.

    By the way God does, has and always will agree with Himself. John 5:7-8. You will one day as well if you are saved.

    May God bless his word and thank you for your sincerity.
  • Bob - in Reply on Psalms 2
    God is three persons , what happens when they don't agree ?

    Then if they always agree what's the need for 3 persons ?

    It just don't add up !

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