Psalms Chapter 19 Discussion

  • BSP on Psalms 19
    Verses 7-9-we become wise by following the law of Jehovah God. Verses 8 and 9-living by God's standards brings approval from God and we enjoy a clean conscience and a good relationship with Jah.
  • Robert Thompson on Psalms 19
    This is a real good commentary on the glory of God and His handy works, let us all worship Him for what He has done for all mankind, be blessed in the Lord.
  • Ralph Mayer on Psalms 19
    Do not believe this claim of a rapture before the resurrection. "Millions will be Left Behind after Jesus removes His Church from the Earth."

    This is a massive lie. Jesus seals His church to survive the terrors of that day.

    What did Jesus say about the great tribulation? Matthew 17:34-37 Jesus says the "taken" are dead, not raptured.

    Divine intervention occurs at the end, not before. The second coming of Christ happens after the great tribulation, when times up.
  • Bro Barney - in Reply on Psalms 19
    You must interpret the Bible in context. Are you speaking of Mathew 24:39-42? You are correct, the taken in these verses are just like those taken in the flood ( Matt. 24:38); they die. Jesus was talking to the Jews about His second coming. The rapture of the church is not His second coming as He will not touch the earth at that time.

    1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

    There are many more passages that point to the church being raptured up before the tribulation period.

    God bless
  • Mishael - in Reply on Psalms 19
    The 10 Virgins Parable teaches us How To Be Ready. The Bridegroom will fetch Her to the Wedding Feast.
  • A Prayer for Favor on Psalms 19
    Pray with me

    Dear God,

    Thank you for your great love and blessingover our lives. Thank you that your favor has no end, but it lasts for our entire lifetime. Forgive us for sometimes forgetting that you are intimately acquainted with all of our ways, that you know what concerns us, and you cover us as with a shield. We ask that we would walk in your blessingand goodness today.That your face would shine on us. That you would open the right doors for our lives and for our loved ones, that you would close the wrong doors and protect us from those we need to walk away from. Establish thework of our handsand bring to fulfillment all that you have given us to do in these days. We pray that you would make our way purposefuland our footsteps firmout of your goodness and love. Give us a heart of wisdom to hear your voice, and make us strong by your huge favor and grace.

    In Jesus' Name,

  • Carleton - in Reply on Psalms 19

  • A friend on Psalms 19
    Psalm 103:2-5

    Bless the LORD, O my soul, And forget not all His benefits: Who forgives all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases, Who redeems your life from destruction,

    Who crowns you with loving kindness and tender mercies, Who satisfies your mouth with good things,

    So that your youth is renewed like the eagle's.

    Jeremiah 17:14

    Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise.

    Jeremiah 30:17

    For I will restore health to you And heal you of your wounds,' says the LORD, ' Because they called you an outcast saying: " This is Zion; No one seeks her."'

    Hosea 6:1

    Come, and let us return to the LORD; For He has torn, but He will heal us; He has stricken, but He will bind us up.

    Hosea 14:4

    I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely, For My anger has turned away from him.

    Malachi 4:2

    But to you who fear My name The Sun of Righteousness shall arise With healing in His wings; And you shall go out And grow fat like stall-fed calves.

    Psalm 30:2-3

    LORD my God, I cried out to You, And You healed me.

    O LORD, You brought my soul up from the grave; You have kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.

    Exodus 15:26

    and said, "If you diligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you."

    Deuteronomy 7:15

    And the LORD will take away from you all sickness, and will afflict you with none of the terrible diseases of Egypt (sin) which you have known, but will lay them on all those who hate you.

    Psalm 34:19

    Many are the afflictions of the righteous, But the LORD delivers him out of them all.
  • Philippa on Psalms 19
    Divine I understand but Kinsman... what does that word mean? is it a english ancient word
  • The Holy Ghost on Psalms 19
    (The Firmament.) O Israel, why do ye rest so dangerously in the weaver's web of falsehood? Why do you continue to trust in his lies? Know ye not that I, even I, the LORD your GOD, searched out all things in the earth beneath: even the sky above the firmament which is as a globe of hardened glass? Why must you delight in oppression? Who do you desire to prove? Know ye not, O Israel, that I endured the cross for your sakes: And that you are my children for ever, and are my beloved? Your secrets have you kept according to my commandment. I have given you secrets to reveal them to you: so that you can know that I AM the LORD your GOD. I AM your Saviour. Many spirits of the Gentiles have I knitted into my body in waiting for your awakening, O Israel. They now see my salvation and my mercy. The time is come that you too shall see, that the blindness be past: as it is the last time and the fruits of righteousness shall come forth. You shall see that I AM the LORD your GOD and that my mercy has no end. You have seen my doctrine, that was never leaked, as it was hidden in my heart. O Israel, you have given place to your idolatry in the earth beneath: but must you also pollute the heavens above with your imagery? know ye not that you are now in the midst of all evil? The oppressed have no good seed left in them as they are reconciled to GOD. The wicked fill that corrupt flesh as they deceive you in every way, in every place. Return to me O children: put off the way of evil and confess that JESUS CHRIST is the LORD your SAVIOUR to the saving of your souls: repent now and be reconciled to GOD in the peace of eternal life through JESUS your KING.
  • SkipVought on Psalms 19
    "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES:" 1Co 15:3-4

    There are lots of Old Testament Scriptures that refer to a suffering and dying Messiah but I've often wondered where is it recorded "that he rose again the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES"

    This creed probably started being used by Christians within months of Jesus' resurrection. There were no New Testament writings at that time. "The Scriptures" referred to the Jewish writings, The Law and The Prophets.

    I'll share some of my ideas as I hear about yours.
  • Charles R Peek - in Reply on Psalms 19
    Isaiah Chapter 53, see if you can read it without crying.
  • Philippa Bowles - in Reply on Psalms 19
    yes Isaiah 53 causes me to cry too or almost & scripture on the cross "it is finished" God used these two " by His Stripes you are healed " to remove any fearof virus
  • SkipVought - in Reply on Psalms 19
    Well Richard identified 3 Scriptural allusions supporting "that he rose again the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES," and Adam echoed 1 of those 3.

    This one I got from Chuck Missler. I am no Hebrew scholar and it took one to find this one. You might not find it as compelling as the 3 from Richard.

    "Then she let them down by a CORD through the window: for her house was upon the town wall, and she dwelt upon the wall. And she said unto them, Get you to the mountain, lest the pursuers meet you; and HIDE YOURSELVES THERE THREE DAYS, until the pursuers be returned: and afterward may ye go your way. And the men said unto her, We will be blameless of this thine oath which thou hast made us swear. Behold, when we come into the land, thou shalt bind this LINE of scarlet thread in the window which thou didst let us down by: and thou shalt bring thy father, and thy mother, and thy brethren, and all thy father's household, home unto thee." Jos 2:15-18

    CORD H2256 chebel

    also ruin: - band, coast, company, cord, country, destruction, line, lot, pain, pang, portion, region, rope, snare, sorrow, tackling.

    LINE H8615 tiqvh

    figuratively expectancy: - expectation ([-ted]), hope, live, thing that I long for.

    So between CORD (ruin, pain,sorrow) and LINE (expectation, hope)


    This passage is an allusion, by The Holy Spirit, to the sorrow of the cross, three days in the grave and the hope of the resurrection: "ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES"

    This event occurs just prior to the people of Israel crossing the Jordan and entering The Promised Land.
  • SkipVought - in Reply on Psalms 19
    Here is a differentiation that I think is important to keep in mind.

    There is ONE interpretation of Joshua 2:13-20. Any passage has ONE INTERPRETATION not many. It is not the same as this typology or picture of Jesus rising on the third day. The interpretation would be what a reader would have understood in 1300 BC or 20 AD. The correct interpretation is the message that the writer meant to convey not the interpretation you want to give it. There may be an additional message in a typology but typology is not allegory, which is reading into the text what is not there as the interpretation. For instance, studying Leviticus may be difficult apart from typology, but the typology does not change the meaning of what the Ark of the Covenant was to an OT believer.
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 19
    1 Corinthians 15:4

    Acts 10:40

    Luke 24:7

    Luke 18:33

    Matthew 20:19

    Matthew 17:23

    Luke 24:46

    Luke 24:21

    This is only a few of the instances. Is someone doubting that Jesus was risen on the third day or something? The Bible says it all over the place, so if someone is trying to claim otherwise, they have a whole mountain of scripture against them.
  • SkipVought - in Reply on Psalms 19
    Adam, none of the New Testament had been written when this creed was first spoken, just a short time after The Resurrection. The only "Scriptures" they had would have would have been the writings that we know as The Old Testament.
  • Adam - in Reply on Psalms 19
    Ok, I read too quickly and understand you want just old testament:

    Hosea 6:2
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Psalms 19
    Hello brother Skip,

    As your post interested me to look into this. There seems to be no exact Scripture, in the OT, of the Messiah rising on the third day. What I found was there being three parallels in the OT Jesus may have been referring to.

    The First being a parallel to Abraham being commanded to sacrifice his "only" son Isaac. When hearing this his son became dead to him. Then on the third day when he was about to offer him in sacrifice the angel of the Lord stopped him. Then Isaac being alive to him again. Genesis 22:1-12

    Then next being a parallel to Jonah being three days, and nights, in the whales belly. Jonah 1:17. Showing that he was not living, but had died, is Jonah crying "out of the belly of hell or "sheol"I cried". Then Jonah 2:20 where the fish spit him up and being revived, or alive, after three days.

    The last is a parallel to Israel being raised on the third day. Hosea 6:1-2.

    As you may know all of these things already as you are a very wise man in Scripture. I just thought to look into and post what I found to you.

    Hope that may help some. God Bless you brother.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Psalms 19
    Oops. Not Jonah 2:20, Jonah 2:10.
  • SkipVought - in Reply on Psalms 19
    Yes, Richard

    And Jesus said, "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Mat 12:40

  • SkipVought - in Reply on Psalms 19

    It always warms my heart when people search The Holy Scriptures and know The Holy Scriptures that are to make you wise unto salvation. A true Bearan: Acts 17-10-11.

    Those are three good examples!

    I like that you see that Abraham reckoned that Isaac was dead on the first day and he received him back on the third day. Heb 11:17-19. His faith is exemplified when he told his servants that "I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you." Gen 22:5.

    Thanks for your swift reply. Please post again if you think of any other Scriptures. I still have other possibilities.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Psalms 19
    Hello Skip,

    The Lord is so amazing. Tonight I just opened my Bible and read as sometimes I do just to let the Holy Spirit guide me. I was reading in 1 Samuel about the life of David. I really can't say it has any correlation to Jesus rising on the third day but as soon as I read it I thought of you and how it connects. In "his spirit came again to him" and "three days and three nights". 1 Samuel 30:12
  • SkipVought - in Reply on Psalms 19
    I'm sure that this spoke to your heart. Thanks for sharing.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Psalms 19
    I appreciate your very kind replies my brother.

    You have noted another interesting parallel, with the details, in Joshua 2:15-18. Wonderful!

    God Bless you Skip.
  • Steve Anderson on Psalms 19
    The scripture tells us that there are three.... that we should know of...
  • Steve Anderson on Psalms 19
    The Heavens Declare the Glory of God.... ? How many Heavens are there....?
  • T - in Reply on Psalms 19
    Common Hebrew understanding of the heavens. The heavens in the Old Testament are fairly earth centered, much in the same way we look at the universe.

    The first heaven is the earth atmosphere. In this atmosphere, birds fly and clouds form. This heaven is spoken of often in the Old Testament. "The Lord will open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty, to send rain on your land in season and to bless all the work of your hands" ( Deuteronomy 28:12).

    The second heaven the Hebrews described consisted of the universe as we know it. This heaven consisted of sun, moon, and stars. "In the heavens he has pitched a tent for the sun . . . It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the other . . . " ( Psalm 19:4,6).

    The third heaven is the dwelling place of God. This was the experience Paul described. "In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven" ( Matthew 5:16). God dwells in the highest heaven, "But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heavens cannot contain you" ( 1 Kings 8:27)
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 19
    The "heavens" & the "firmament" in Psalm 19:1 speaks about the universe & sky. The Psalmist declares that both the sky & universe with all that we can see in them are indeed a mighty spectacle & declaration of God's Handiwork & Glorious Power.

    In connection with this Psalm, Abraham Lincoln once said, "I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how a man could look up into the heavens and say there is no God." And of course, he was speaking of the starry universe working together in perfect unison.
  • Me - in Reply on Psalms 19
    Only one Heaven with different venues , different mansions.

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