Psalms Chapter 16 Discussion

  • Texsis - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Yes, thank 'you Lord God' for bringing Mr. Harris out of his addiction. "Heavenly Father, I ask that you be w/him daily being the 'footprints in the sand' till he is strong enough in You to walk beside you & Lord let him feel the peace that passes all understanding receiving yur All & keeping his weakness at bay. In Christ Jesus me I pray, Amen".!

    They say, and I Completly Disagree, 'once addicted always addicted'. That in it self is a weakness you must let go of. For Only Gods daily word, unconditional love, forgivness (past, present & future), peace that He will help you through surpassing All understanding & His strength beyond compare can keep you from such. Yet if you have that saying in the bk of yur mind 'Im weak' you shall continue to be. Let go & let God has great meaning my friend.! It's awesome & Nothing can lead you away, you'll want to do ANYthing for Christ Even be able to spread His word w/out fear.! Take care Morgan, God bless, 'Texsis'.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Hello Errol. I'm unsure who challenged you about the manner of Jesus' Coming to Earth & you are correct Jesus came from within God's Person ( John 1:1-14, the Word of God made flesh) & He had all of God's fullness within His Being ( Colossians 2:9: "For in him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily (in a human body)").

    I know that those who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses have their erroneous understanding of Colossians 1:15, "Who (i.e. Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature". The Greek word for 'firstborn' is 'prototokos' and when written of Jesus, it applies to His preeminence & highest rank of all creation, though He Himself was never created, because He was "begotten of the Father" ( John 1:14). Whereas the JW reads Colossians 1:15 as, "the first created of every creature"; removing the 'prototokos' & replacing it with 'protokitses'. This error then substantiates their belief that Jesus was merely a created Being from God, thereby nullifying His Divinity.

    And we see this word, 'firstborn' appearing elsewhere in the New Testament, when referring to Jesus:

    Romans 8:29: "firstborn among many brethren", referring to Jesus' preeminence as the 'elder Brother' of His many brethren, the Church. And it also speaks of Jesus' as being wholly Divine yet Him merging with humanity, thus the incarnate God becoming the 'first' in line of this new creation: i.e. we who are now His brothers & sisters have been given His Spirit to indwell us, making us a new creation in Christ Jesus (God's Spirit now residing in man)": 2 Corinthians 5:17.

    Colossians 1:18: "firstborn from the dead". This means that Jesus was the first to rise from the dead with a resurrection Body & it will be when our bodies will be resurrected as His was - but He was our Forerunner in the resurrection. Though Lazarus & the many saints arose from the grave, they weren't given their new glorified bodies.

    I hope this little extra study helps you Errol.
  • Errol Thompson on Psalms 16
    I was challenged that Jesus was created, as far as I know he was God in the flesh. Could you shed some clarity on this matter for me please.
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 16
    This Psalm starts off with a rather confusing section in verse 2. Commentaries with other versions seem to indicate this means that David had no good in himself to offer to the Lord. Verse 3 therefore is describing his attitude of service toward other saints of God. I am certainly open to other interpretations or ideas on that passage.

    Verse 4 contrasts this attitude with not being involved with those sacrificing to idols. Such practices among confessing believers today may not be seen (although they certainly go on behind the scenes in the cult world). We need to remember Solomon; David's son forgot what God Himself warned him of when he multiplied foreign wives; who led his heart astray. He may not have done these practices himself; but was involved with those who would do sacrificial rites of children to Molech; worship idols of metal and wood; and have all sorts of abominable sexual rituals (as all 3 actions were tied together).

    Verses 5-6 remind us of the opposite fate in Psalm 28:7 for the lost in hell. Wisdom such as is found in James 1:8 is sort of in line with the counsel mentioned in verse 7. Christ sits at the right hand of God much as verse 8 mentions.

    Verse 10 can be partly applied to David himself (his soul not being left forever in hell); but only to Christ Himself as the "Holy One" who will not see corruption who rises from the grave 3 days later.

    There are pleasurers for evermore with the Lord in eternity. The Psalm certainly ends in a joyous note as do many other Psalms (with the noteable exception of Psalm 88.) Let us rejoice and be glad in Him. (Pssalm 118:24).
  • Manuel Teixeira on Psalms 16
    Jesus is called David's Son, Gods Arm. The Father was hiding His presence in heavy darkness on the cross at Calvary that Day, reconciliating with Himself the world.

    Jesus, by Faith alone, always kept the closest loving relationship, full submission and self denial towards The Father.

    Prior to Jesus's birth, Gabriel anounced to Mary that her son would be saint, meaning blamelessly without sin. Jesus is God's Lamb, without default or blame. Jesus never compromised with satan's mind and principles, even under the most extreme suffering, and instead said: Father forgive them, for they don't know what they are doing. Jesus, as second Adam, was The Begotten Son Of God, and recieved beauty and harmony of body and mind, similar to Adam, without a sinful nature. Jesus vanquished satan's temptations as a man of sorrows just by faith in God. The Messiah, during his entire mission, was dayly assisted by two angels, present at Joseph's tomb on ressurection Day. Jesus didn't experienced a putrid state or body corruption. Jesus died right before sunset at the nith hour, was asleep resting in the tomb during Sabath and ressurrected on the third day right after Sabath. Mary od Magdala was present at the tomb site, very early sunday morning while was stil dark, and Jesus manifested himself to her, after having been assisted by two angels and packed his mortal sheets. Jesus ressurected with a glorious body like we also wil have when He wil come on His second coming in Glory. Jesus said he wasn't a spirit, asked for food and eated it, after ressurection. Jesus said Mary don't delay me for I haven't ascended to my Father. Jesus took care on clarifying the inconscient state of the dead, comparing death as being asleep. Jesus died as Lazarus whom jesus declared being dead. Satan's lie until today is that we don't die.

    If we don't die, then why did Jesus came to deliever us from sins condemnation or second death? Jesus declared Lazarus dead, and called him to raise up from death! Amen!
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Hello Helen. I believe that you're correct & you've picked up on the essence of that verse. The Psalmist's goodness (however, commendable it might be), is absolutely "nothing" (in Hebrew) when God's Goodness is considered or compared to.
  • Helen on Psalms 16
    Does anyone know what Psalm 16:2 mean?

    I take it to mean that our goodness doesn't compare or even touch on God's -

    but not sure what it means.

  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Precious Marva: "does god hear my prayers when I'm unable to speak, but pray silently."? Yes, God Hears all humble people who approach Him, in faith, including dumb people who cannot speak:

    God Knows And Searches our hearts ( Acts 15:8; Romans 8:27), And His Spirit "Prays For us," Even when we "don't know what to pray for!" ( Romans 8:26):

    God's GRACE In our infirmities:

    (1) Read Romans 5:1-5, especially take note of verse 3, "we glory [rejoice] in tribulations." We are not instructed here to glory in spite of the trials of life we find ourselves in, but we are to rejoice because of them. That is to say we are to thank God for allowing times of suffering into our life. This passage of Scripture expressly states that The Lord uses the tribulations of life "to conform us to The Image Of His Son" ( Romans 8:29). To this end, He uses all things "to work together for good to them that love God, to them that are the called According To His Purpose" ( Romans 8:28). As we grow mature in The Lord, our Savior is Glorified. As believers in Jesus Christ it is given us "in behalf of Christ, not only to believe on Him, but also to suffer for His Sake" ( Philippians 1:29). (Borrowed from brother Ed Bedore) My study:

    (2) After Paul [our #"pattern"# for Today!] prayed 3 times for his affliction, the "Answer he Received," According To The Scriptures, Was:

    "And HE [CHRIST] Said Unto me, MY GRACE Is Sufficient For thee: For MY Strength Is Made Perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory [cp] in my infirmities, that The Power Of CHRIST May Rest Upon me!" ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) cp ( 2 Corinthians 11:23-30)

    (3) Compare With GRACE Scriptures: ( Romans 5:1-5) ( Romans 8:18) ( Romans 8:26-29) ( 1 Corinthians 10:13) ( 2 Corinthians 1:3-4) ( 2 Corinthians 4:17) ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) ( Philippians 3:21)

    #"pattern"# = Paul = ( 1 Timothy 1:16) ( Philippians 4:9)

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 =

    Grace/Mystery fellowship, today?)

    Please Be Encouraged!
  • English sacha - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Marva , there is only one God and He is the God of all flesh . Some of us want to get to know Him and some of us don't but He is still The Only God . That means that you belong to Him and He loves and cares for you , all day every day . You are never apart from Him , sometimes our hearts and minds wander around this world and we forget about Him for a short while as we are distracted by the things of this life , He is never distracted . His love never ever leaves you . Don't be afraid or lonely ,He is always always always with you .
  • Marva Duncan on Psalms 16
    I would like to know, does god hear my prayers when I'm unable to speak, but pray silently. Also, when my depression attacks me and my mind sways from joy to sadness that seems to remove my faith with fear. For decades, no one has been able to answer those two questions that baffles my mind too often. Is God hearing or listening to me. I hope to hear from you.

    Thank you, and God's blessings
  • Hazel on Psalms 16
    Amen thank you father God,
  • Anonnymous on Psalms 16
    Baptizem...In the Name of .... The father..The son.. and The holy ghost..(These are titles)

    The name is JESUS.. Acts 2:38

    We cannot sign a personal check with a title and expect a bank to cash it. Such as... Mother..Daughter...Son..ect. (these are titles) We must sign our name! And your name is???
  • Brother dan - in Reply on Psalms 16
    I am in 100% agreement with everything that you said. Serve our neighbor's and people in need. Let Christs light shine on every good thing that we do. Amen and God Bless.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Rhonda, "give all away that we have to be a christian!!" People who view a relationship with God by their merit/money, are not only wrong, but they misrepresent the true relationship, which is by a combination of faith and grace. That is, the believer understands the grace of God in salvation and lives trusting/faith in his work to save them. Until you give up on being good enough, you never will be saved. Christ said, "it is finished" from the cross, because he finished all the payment for sin. Forgiveness comes at a cost, Christ paid it all. Money will pass away as all the Earth will, but what Christ has purchased with his blood, will remain his forever. Use your money as wisely as you can, but the question you must answer is, what has Jesus done for you?
  • Rich - in Reply on Psalms 16
    I personally believe it comes down the heart. I don't believe it has to do with the amount or the % in my opinion. Jesus spoke about the poor woman who gave all she had: Luke 21:1-4. I also believe someone's time has value and people can give of their time and sometimes be of more help to others than giving money. I personally prefer to help someone I know and can continue the relationship with, than to give to a charity where the CEO makes $500k/year and 50% of the donations only go to cover expense overhead. Churches can be the same drain on money too and their spending can be as irresponsible as the government. For example, a medium sized city might have 200+ church buildings, each having overhead like tax, rent or mortgage, trash, AC/heat, licensing, fees, but most of the buildings are closed 95% of the time each week. So instead of sharing resources and lightening the burden on its members they each want their own expensive building then preach sermons guilt tripping each person about giving to 'God'. Some of the churches spend lots of money on fancy projectors and sound systems and other unnecessary luxuries or status symbols. I personally think it's more honorable and beneficial to talk to homeless people and try to help them or to talk to your neighbor or volunteer and help others in a more direct way. In general Christians should strive to be Christlike and be a light to the world. I personally don't think we should spend most of our money having our little private buildings' overhead that can be used to actually help others instead. I see nothing in the Bible about God wanting us to be prosperous- that's made up by rich preachers on TV who want to be richer and buy more planes. It instead says store your treasures in heaven, not on earth. Posessions can become idols. We're supposed to pursue God not objects. God bless.
  • RHONDA on Psalms 16
    Does god expect us to be poor and give all away to the poor or give and tithe or to have nice things and nice homes as we prosper!!? what does it really mean when jesus said to sale all possessions and follow him? some say we are to be as poor as possible and give all away that we have to be a christian!! i believe god want us to be prosperous and give, am i wrong please help and explain!
  • Timothy - in Reply on Psalms 16
    That is a very good Question! If you are living in Gods words and you belief with all your heart that everything is his will

    not yours. And pray,pray,pray he will hear you . God gave his only son to forgive us of our sins! God Blesses you and who ever beliefs in him.
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Anonymous, PG 3, Hebrews 6;17-20, Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath; That by two immutable things in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us; Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both "SURE" and stedfast, and which entered into that within the vail; Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. The conclusion; we have Eternal Security based on Gods promise, not our achievements; and as the scripture says; For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Now that takes us to John 3:16-17, For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his son into the world to condemn the world ; but the world through him might be saved. I hope that helps. I'm sorry that took so long.
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Psalms 16
    HI Anonymous. PG 2. Genesis 17:20-21. Ishmael I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; 12 princes he will beget, and will make him a great nation, But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this time set time in the next year...As you study Galatians Ch 4, you see in verses 4:22-31, you see the working of 2 covenants which all man kind is under one or another, But our focus is on the seed and the promise: Gal.4:28. Now we brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. Galatians 3:6-8, Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Know ye therefore that they which are of faith are children of Abraham... Now Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He said not and to seeds, as of many; but to as of one, And that seed ,which is Christ. Hebrews 6:13-20, For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he swear by himself, Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee. And so after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise. For men verily swear by the greater; and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife-
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Psalms 16
    PG 1: Hi anonymous, the wages of sin is death, and eternally separated from God: Romans 5:12. Wherefore, as by one man entered the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for all has sinned... Romans 5:19, For by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one "Christ" shall many be made righteous. In Genesis 3:21, God made coats of skins to clothed Adam and Eve, rejecting them attempting to clothed themselves, in which he made an atonement for their transgression pointing to a future sacrifice lamb "Christ" that would take away the sins of the world. In Genesis 12:3, God tells Abraham in him all the families of the earth shall be blessed, In Genesis 15:1-6, God promise Abraham a son "Isaac" through which his seed be called, "AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED" In Genesis 15:8-17 God puts Abraham to sleep to perform an unconditional covenant with him, Which depends on Gods promise not Abraham efforts. In Genesis 16:1-4, Abraham and Sarah decided to assist God in his promise and decided to parent a child through Sarah's handmaid and bared him a son Ismael, Genesis 17:18-21, God rejects Ismael as the covenant child, "Heir" according to the promise.
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Christ sealed you and confirmed your inheritance with his Holy Innocent blood! This is what you will base every thought, every deed, every breath you take! You will grow in the faith, as any, who trust in Him! The miracle will come , the revelation of the kingdom! Be vigilant, be sober! Satan is as a lion, who is always seeking his next prey. Jesus confronted him with His word, as you will also! Study always ,showing thyself approved ,in all things that pertain to the kingdom! Remember what he said ,The first shall be last, the last shall be first! You are now the first. Repent and be baptized! In the name of all names ,the savior of the world! Jesus Christ!
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Hi Anonymous, I think your last question about salvation got lost in the tread in another persons comment, submit it again and this time go to the top of the page and click on add a comment and start a new tread. There's a very good teacher who has been ministering to you, he may have missed your question. Thanks
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Christ asks "what is your name"? These words before he casts out demon's. He is fearless and the demons know it! They call him the Son of the most high God! Humility, in a believer will always be the greater part of valor! His strength is made perfect in weakness. We must become weak ,so he might become strong! His grace is sufficient! Always looking toward his promises!
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Amen brother. Psalm 27:1 came to mind: "The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?" Satan may hound us & the forces of evil in the World against us, but the one who trusts in the Lord has his "life hidden with Christ in God". What a blessed & secure place to be in.
  • Mike - in Reply on Psalms 16
    1. Realize and admit you're a sinner, that you're not perfect. ( Romans 3: 10,23)

    2. You believe the gospel. The death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ with your whole heart. ( 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4)

    3. You confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God and your savior. ( Romans 10: 9,10)

    God doesn't lie, God doesn't break his promises. He desperately wants you to be with him in eternity. There's nothing you can do on your own to save yourself, Jesus did all the work for you already on the cross. It's his free gift to you. Have faith!

    "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." - 1 John 5: 13
  • Anonymous - in Reply on Psalms 16
    I have a question, how do I truly know I'm going to heaven? to be with the lord for eternity. I want to serve and put god first in everything, and grow closer to him daily by studying his word. But how do I know for sure I will go to heaven?
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Psalms 16
    Almost as intimidated as David, I find myself almost predicting his next sentence! How does it seems that those who are believers in the world are like David surrounded by unbelievers! Those of course who have no faith, feel no pressure at all and under the spell of Satan. These are the beginning of sorrows. We should never be afraid, always overcoming evil with good. Approach his throne boldly! Asking for his presence, especially in the time of need!
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 16
    This lovely Psalm written by David is indeed his declaration of utter trust in the Living God. However, when we look at verses 2 & 3, he speaks to the Lord, that his "goodness does not extend to Thee". This can be understood as, 'my righteousness or the great things I have accomplished, are insignificant to God'; i.e. what can David do, or anyone of us do, that will satisfy God or be of any credit to our account?

    Rather, David's righteous acts can be a blessing to those who live righteously before God ('saints') & also to the people of import (rulers, judges, nobles: 'the Excellent'), in whom is his delight, or brings him joy. And this can be said of God: that He finds His delight in those who truly love & serve Him.

    Conversely, in verse 4, David says that to those who reject the True God, & despise the righteous deeds of David by following after false gods, to them will his benefits not come, rather only sorrows will always follow them. David would have nothing to do with their blood & wine mingled drink offerings or even mention the names of these idols. And then David follows these sad & despicable acts by re-affirming that his own heart will always be toward God, Who gives him everything for this life & the life that is to come.
  • Geraldine Reynolds on Psalms 16
    What does verse 3 reference to? Please explain Psalm 16. My interpretation is putting all trust in God the Almighty not man or item's.
  • Jack C Gutknecht on Psalms 16:11
    DAVID'S SON ( Ps 16:8-1 1): These verses, although written by David, predict the future work of Christ.

    A. Jesus' reliance upon his father ( Ps 16:8)

    B. Jesus' resurrection by his father ( Ps 16:9-10)

    C. Jesus' reign with his father ( Psa. 16:11)

    11. T W S M T P O L I T P I F O J A T R H T A P F E 11. Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

    Psalms 16:11

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