Proverbs Chapter 8 Discussion



 
  • Giannis - In Reply on Proverbs 8 - 2 years ago
    Hello Robert

    Many theologists have the belief that that "wisdom" mentioned in Proverbs is Jesus Christ personally. Why do they think that? Because of verses like in 1 Cor 1:23-24 or 1 Cor 1:30 "But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption". They take those verses literally. Is this right? Many opinions. Mine is no it isn't. In the previous verses what Paul says is that through Jesus God's wisdom was revealed to people, not that He is the Wisdom Himself. It was Jesus who revealed God's truth to people, he revealed the mysterious plan of God to save mankind. God's wisdom can not be explored by people, many believe it is "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness" (verse 18), but it really is " but unto us which are saved it is the power of God".

    Going back to Proverbs God's wisdom takes a human nature and talks like a man. It was something that even todays writters do, they personify things, to make a stronger impression. Paul does that when he personifies sin in Romans, or when he talks about Death and Hell(Hades) in Corinthians. Besides that, wisdom in Proverbs is described as a woman not as a man, since in Hebrew this word is of feminine gender, like in Proverbs 2:4. In Hebrew "am-thbqshNE kksph ukmtmunim thchphshNE". In English "if you are seekingHER as the silver and as the buried treasures you are searching for HER"

    GBU
  • Robert Echevarria on Proverbs 8 - 2 years ago
    If Christ was wisdom in Proverbs I thought Christ had no begining or end. How then can he be made?
  • GiGi - In Reply on Proverbs 8 - 2 years ago
    Yes Earl,

    I am doing well. I can type one and a half handed now since my surgery hand is regaining some dexterity. My foot is hurting, but I am sure that that will dissipate sometime this week. Don't know yet when I'll be able to walk on it. i am getting good at maneuvering around with a knee scooter. God ia healing me bit by bit. I am thankful.
  • ELB - In Reply on Proverbs 8 - 2 years ago
    Amen, Sister GiGi!

    I suppose post surgery is going well, seeing you have perfected one hand typing.

    God Bless You!
  • GiGi - In Reply on Proverbs 8 - 2 years ago
    Hello Rhonda. Yes, God is all wise. Wisdom is who He is just like Righteous is who He is, and

    Eternal is who He is. It was never acquired by Him from anything outside of Himself. All that we know of Him is Who He is inherently. He never can add to Himself nor detract from Himself. He never changes and is completely independent about everything He has, therefore He aquires nor requires nothing from outside of Himself, He is complete, perfect, infinite, self-existent,, in need of nothing. Pretty amazing!
  • Marke - In Reply on Proverbs 8 - 2 years ago
    The Bible beautifully personifies wisdom in Proverbs 8. Here are some highlights:

    1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?

    8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.

    14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.

    15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.

    16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.

    17 I love them that love me, and those that seek me early shall find me.

    22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

    23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

    24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

    25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

    26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

    27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

    28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:

    29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

    30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

    31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
  • Rhonda on Proverbs 8 - 2 years ago
    I never thought of this before, but God himself had wisdom before he created the earth and everything on it and then it.
  • Bible student - In Reply on Proverbs 8 - 4 years ago
    Sofia is Barbelo its the Gnostic "holy ghost" not the actual one sofia and barbelo is what the Nicolatians worshiped in other words a big big no no hope this helps.
  • BILE STUDENT - In Reply on Proverbs 8 - 4 years ago
    HMM Good question maybe its the people that were made on the 6th day and their decedents Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

    27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

    28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon
  • Amanda - In Reply on Proverbs 8:32 - 4 years ago
    Blessed is the man that heareth me, daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.

    hearing..........and listening for His teachings

    watching ........ with you eyes constantly on God

    waiting........... for God's return and His instructions

    My view.?

    God is Good!!
  • Melinda - In Reply on Proverbs 8:32 - 4 years ago
    We are for every learning
  • Bob Hilt on Proverbs 8 - 4 years ago
    Matthew 24:37 - But as the days of Noe (Noah) were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    Mat 24:38 - For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

    Mat 24:39 - And knew not until the flood came, and took (WHO?) them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of

    man be.

    Mat 24:40 - Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    Mat 24:41 - Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    Mat 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

    The WICKED were TAKEN and Noah was LEFT BEHIND at the end of the flood.

    Luke 17:26 - And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

    The WICKED were TAKEN and Noah was LEFT BEHIND

    1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

    The WICKED were TAKEN FIRST and Noah was LEFT BEHIND

    Luk 17:27 - They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

    Luke 17:28 - Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

    Lot was left behind - the wicked were taken

    Luke 17:29 - But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

    Luke 17:30 - Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

    So do we want to be taken or left behind?

    Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
  • Harvey herie on Proverbs 8 - 4 years ago
    why is this confusing chapter 8 is writhen by the son of gods word to his people and all you have to do is find him if you want to live on. there is only one savior his name his Jesus Christ there is no other be saved
  • Chris - In Reply on Proverbs 8:31 - 4 years ago
    Proverbs 8:22-31, as you would know, speaks of Wisdom. Here is Wisdom speaking of herself, that it was the LORD's possession before creation & time. So when we look at v 31, we shouldn't think of 'sons of men' as being Angels or super humans, but simply that Wisdom was there not only in God's creative Work but also finding her "delight with Adam, Eve & all their descendants".
  • Olowoyeye yemi on Proverbs 8:31 - 4 years ago
    ln this verse , who were the sons of men, since Adam and Eve were not yet created. Were the sons of men Angels or what?
  • Chris on Proverbs 8 - 4 years ago
    A beautiful section in the Proverbs written in the feminine gender. But who is Sofia
  • Coeleen Kiebert on Proverbs 8 - 4 years ago
    Clearly this is the voice of Sophia...who delighted in him...who brought Wisdom...who still brings Wisdom. This is the voice of the Feminine, who was there in the beginning...the very beginning.

    This lesson learned from my honored teacher, Mary Holmes, and painted about in her Chapel of Wisdom.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Proverbs 8 - 4 years ago
    2 Timothy Chapter 3
    1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

    2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

    3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

    4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

    5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

    7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
  • Londro on Proverbs 8 - 4 years ago
    What are some of the signs that we are living in the last days?
  • Obbie Beal on Proverbs 8 - 4 years ago
    The above is a decree from Jehovah, GOD, thereby a foundation tailored to fit us both individually and collectively for living life according to the WILL Of GOD. It being a decree no man can It. It shines brighter than the Sun which gives light to us so we will not stumble and fall injuring our self. Never-the less- most use Sunlight to blindly see, so we stumble and fall injuring our self.
  • Brook - In Reply on Proverbs 8 - 5 years ago
    That sound's worrisome.
  • Brook on Proverbs 8 - 5 years ago
    God is mighty and AWESOME. Just look around.
  • Ryan Schaefer - In Reply on Proverbs 8 - 5 years ago
    I think you mean Luke 7:24 "reed shaken in the wind" .
  • Ann on Proverbs 8 - 5 years ago
    Angela Tucker, I think you may be referring to Matthew Chapter 11:7.
  • Angela Tucker on Proverbs 8 - 5 years ago
    I have a question? Where is it written.. Jesus is saying . What did you expect a read blowing the wind? In other words an unstable person or wishy washy . And I no it wasn t a read. But I can t remember what it was. Thank you
  • Michelle Liu on Proverbs 8 - 5 years ago
    We can see Jesus is crying out even in the old testament. Wisdom and understanding through the words of Jesus Christ bring this life- whoever hates jesus loves death.
  • Mrs. V on Proverbs 8 - 5 years ago
    What I enjoy about this proverb chpt. 8 is how important it is for the believers to have Wisdom (Gods Wisdom) since there are 2. Sometimes as believers we can get caught up in the worlds Wisdom and think it's from God, but that's not so. Proverbs 8 goes on to tell us the importance of having Wisdom and Understanding. It is vital! God's wisdom blesses us day by day which is why WE need his.
  • BSP on Proverbs 8 - 6 years ago
    Verses 4 and 5 urges those who lack experience to learn how to be shrewd. The Bible provides the best source of wisdom to apply in our daily lives.
  • Isi on Proverbs 8 - 6 years ago
    Bello bellissimo





















  • A Johnson on Proverbs 8 - 6 years ago
    Proverbs 8 is beautiful, strong, and very plain about the wisdom of God.


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