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  • Pastor JBernard Plummer on Philippians 4:7
    Many have sought To find peace I life in many ways, some thought all of life's problems could or would be solved by money, It could buy you some things but not peace, some thought drugs and or alcohol was the answer, Only to find themselves in worse shape, Others thought it came through love of others only to find themself going through bad relationships and marriages, but I've found that true peace, only comes through prayer and a relationship with Jesus. Don't worry about it, pray about it, Thank you Jesus! You are my PEACE that passes ALL understanding,
  • Tom kotta on Philippians 4:19
    I saw where the kjv study bible by Thomas Nelson doesn't capitalize spirit like other kJ bibles in Genesis 1:2, I wonder why?
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 4:19
    Tom, I don't own the KJV by Thomas Nelson, but was able to download a NKJV by Nelson to have a peek in it. In that one, Genesis 1:2 does show the Spirit with a capital 'S'.
  • Does anyone else worry about the United States as a country?

    I don't wish to be negative, because just like Philippians 4:8 says we should be positive. But I think we should also keep our eyes open, be on guard, and wear the armor of God. Matthew 25:13. The Bible talks about the rampant evil of Sodom and Gomorrah and the violence, the lust, the unnatural sexual relations, and probably any sin imaginable being committed 24/7. And when I think of the US I see the same thing occurring. The trend is the mainstream culture embracing the same evil. Anything and everything evil is deemed 'good' to them and 'progressive' and 'empowering'. We are now seeing open terrorism and violence in many of our cities which is allowed by the corrupt mayors. We see DAs bought out by donors and told to release all criminals. We have states releasing much of their criminals from prison back into our neighborhoods to commit more oppression on innocents. We see open rejecting of God and Christianity, even persecuting Christians in public. We see open homosexuality and giving them special privileges beyond anyone else. We see false gods being elevated that part of culture seems to worship. We see media pushing propaganda and lies to deceive people into falsely assuming things and hating each other. We see people preferring lies over truth and disagreeing on what reality even is just like Romans 1:25.

    Where will it end? Is God preparing to severely punish the country for its evil? Will it tear itself apart and fall just like other big countries in the past? Is this a sign of the end times?
  • JoAnn Hutcherson - in Reply on Philippians 4:19
    Adam on Philippians 4:19

    Where will it end? Answer: Read the Book of Revelations and you will find your answer. IN HIM!
  • The Last Days - in Reply on Philippians 4:19
    2 Timothy 3

    1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

    2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

    3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

    4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

    5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

    7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

    8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these ALSO resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, REPROBATE concerning the faith.

    9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

    10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,

    11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.

    12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

    13 But evil men and seducers shall WAX WORSE AND WORSE, deceiving, and being deceived.
  • Ralph Jr and Sarah Mutchler Mutchler on Philippians 4:19
    I had asked a question about the verse read in: Malachi 4:5; earlier of who would be the Prophet to come that is called: Elijah. I do believe that Elijah, was Jesus Christ. Because the name: Elijah, means a miracle worker and God is. Amen.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Philippians 4:19
    Ralph, Malachi 3:1 Behold I (Jesus) will send my (Jesus') messenger (John the Baptist) , and he (John) shall prepare the way before me (Jesus): And the Lord (Jesus) whom you seek, shall suddenly come to his (Jesus) temple (I Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you) , even the messenger of the covenant (Jesus), whom ye delight in: behold he (Jesus) shall come, saith the Lord of host. Matthew 3:1-3 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judea. (vs) 2 And saying, repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. (vs) 3 For this is he (Elijah) that was spoken of by the prophet E-sai-as (Isaiah), Isaiah 40:3 saying, the voice of one (John) crying in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the Lord (Jesus), make his (Jesus') paths straight. May the Spirit grace you with his understanding.
  • Ralph Jr and Sarah Mutchler Mutchler on Philippians 4:19
    What prophet will come before the Lord comes for his people, that is call Elijah? Read in the KJV Bible: 4:5?
  • Arthur - in Reply on Philippians 4:19
    And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind?

    8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses.

    9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.

    10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.(Mathew 11:7-10)
  • Howard algeo on Philippians 4:6
    who did God take to heaven without dying?
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 4:6
    There are two that the Bible speaks of: Enoch (Genesis 5:22-24); and Elijah (2 Kings 2:9-11).

    The Jewish Midrash speaks of a further six people who didn't face death, but these cannot be verified in the Canon of Scripture, so are not given here as factual.
  • Verse 4-Paul wrote this while he was in prison. He had true godly joy that did not depend on what was happening around him or what was happening to him. His joy was focused on the Lord.
  • Jeremy Vandevelde on Philippians 4:6
    We are seeing evil on an apocalyptic level arent we??!?
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 4:6
    Jeremy, I suppose that would depend on one's perspective & world view. For those who have had a fairly comfortable, free & peaceful life (particularly those born post WWII), might think that this ongoing pandemic, collapsing businesses & economies, various weather upheavals & wars & skirmishes in some parts of the world, equate to some degree of apocalyptic phenomena.

    For those who have been through the world wars, those Jews who lived through or survived Auschwitz or the starving suffering families under despotic governments in third world nations of past generations, might have believed the end of the world was nigh for them.

    However, if we can grasp some of the descriptions of the coming days of suffering & torment in Revelation chapter 6 onwards, I think what we're experiencing now (& what those of yesteryear encountered) are but a foretaste of the horrors to be poured out upon this God-forsaking, Christ-rejecting world. It will be a time of God's Anger that hasn't been seen since His destruction of the Earth by flood. Yes, I agree with you, things are looking quite bad for humanity, but even through the present mild sufferings, we can only trust that the hearts of men are being torn open to look to their Creator for salvation & hope and to see the fickleness of this life & its vain offerings that are of no eternal value. The Lord has His Way of alerting man to his real need & once again fall to his knees to cry to Him.
  • Vincent - in Reply on Philippians 4:6
    Might I also add, the communist regime was/is by far the most ruthless and vile means of government. If people thought Auschwitz was bad, why not take a look at the hundreds of millions massacred by the Reds before a WWII and after. Lets look at the death toll Islam is racking up. Afrikan tribes hacking people up with machetes. No, this current dilemma we are in with international riots and a pandemic of flu-like proportions, is not apocalyptic. It is merely a more obvious evil than what we are used to. Yes, the end is ever more near and what is happening is as the days of Noah. Unfortunately what we see is just a conglomerate of what has always been there.
  • Ada jacksonjonesminister on Philippians 4:13
    Let us all uncover the bad events, sin , the acts of men not in Christ. The world has not acted against the will of God. The world still does what it was created to do. Lets call it what it is We can do all things through Jesus Christ with the power in His name. Lets put evil in its place. It is the work of the devil! That one cant win, but we will in Christ Jesus.
  • Sheyla on Philippians 4:17
    What is the purpose of the vision of Daniel regatdong the 4 mechanic visions.
  • comments about the Origination of Christ. It was Mary that came thru the bloodline of David the tribe of Judah but not Christ as JESUS WAS NOT OF THIS WORLD he told the Jews you are of this WORLD but i am not of this world you are from beneath i am from above. Jesus was the living Word made flesh and blood . Had he been from Mans seed he wd have carried the stain and the spot of adam and cd NOT have been the lamb of God without spot meaning the spot of adam Jesus asked the pharisees what think ye of Christ whos seed is he they replied Davids seed ( the tribe of judah ) then answered Jesus if David calls him lord how can he be his son ( his seed etc He was Davids lord ) heavenly not of this earth. But many did call him the son of david only b/c David was a type of Christ and his son was the Solomon which means comforter the H.G. WHICH IS THE SON OF CHRIST HIS OFFSPRING VIA HIS SEED ETC THE LIVING WORD. To whom the WORD came it made them Gods thus Christ can reproduce after the God kind spirit,thats y he is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats God the comforter the H.G. It was the father that made this law that everything has to reproduce after its kind, but we see that Christ can reproduce after Gods kind Spirit. Thats y Jesus refers to the h.g as the Promise he is the multiplIcation of CHRIST IN US VIA HIS SEED THE WORD. Thats y he is saying to whom the word came it made them Gods,he is able to reproduce God in humanity via his seed and this cannot be refuted as Jesus said the scripture cannot be broken. gb
  • Peter- message to you all on Philippians 4:17
    yous are doing good work and good comments here and I want to say I am giving you a day off

    Peter Mcaleer
  • Joseph on Philippians 4:17
    I want to know any where in the Epistles where the word of God is directly refereed to as food.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Philippians 4:17
    One of Jesus's names is The Bread of Life.

    At the Last Supper He explains it to the Disciples.

    Type that into this websites search box: bread of life; come and Taste the Goodness of the Lord.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Philippians 4:17
    Joseph,

    1 Corinthians 10:3, John 6:27, John 6:51, 1 Peter 2:2, Hebrews 5:12-14 are just a few of many places. In John 4:32, after Jesus' disciples brought Him physical food, Jesus said "I have meat to eat that ye know not of."

    I don't know if you have ever experienced this before, but Christians have somewhat many times, where you are physically hungry, and you are physically tired, but then in some way, shape, or form, God ministers through you to someone else, or from someone else to you, and whatever physical hunger you have or physical thirst you have, it doesn't make any difference. That physical hunger or physical thirst somehow just disappears!

    The spiritual food is contentment in and of itself. You are not as hungry as you used to be or as starved as you used to be. Now what is interesting in John Chapter 4 is that the woman left her waterpot behind. Jesus said you just brought physical food from the city, but I have food to eat that you know not of. He ministered God's word to this woman.
  • Lance joseph on Philippians 4:17
    Hello , can you tell me where cain got his wife if adam and eve were the first people on earth
  • D.J. - in Reply on Philippians 4:17
    Lance, Reply to the question concerning the wife of Cain;

    Cain found his wife because Adam and Eve were not the only two people living on earth at that time.

    (Genesis 1:26 - 28) states that on the 6th day God created mankind, BOTH male and female, blessed them, and told them to be fruitful and multiply, RE-plenish the earth, subdue it, and have dominion over every living thing on it.

    God also created Adam on the 6th day. Adam, however, was not told to subdue the earth and have dominion over it. Adam was put in a garden in Eden (Genesis 2:7, 8) completely by himself (Genesis 2:18, 1st Timothy 2:13). The instructions given to Adam were to dress the garden and to keep it (Genesis 2:15). Adam was a farmer, and the animals brought to him in (Genesis 2:19 - 20) were utilized for that particular purpose. The instructions given to Adam are completely different than the instructions given to the rest of mankind because God chose Adam to stand against the serpent in the garden, and God chose the lineage of Adam to bring forth the Savior of the world. (It is interesting to note that unlike Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc., who are all stated as being faithful or righteous, that is nowhere stated of Adam; but it may be implied, as God did choose him).

    The Bible uses translated words such as "peoples," "nations," "heathen," and "gentiles" to define these people as "foreign" or, in other words, a different lineage than Adam. The reason Cain found a wife in the land of Nod, east of Eden (Genesis 4:16) is because the other races of people created by God on the 6th day were living on the earth, reproducing, and having dominion over it. It is interesting to note that for over 6000 years of marriages between the races of the world, those same races are still very much distinguishable......and ALL are blessed through the perfect plan of God, (Genesis 1:28 12:2, 3, 26:4)

    As to why the earth was being RE-plenished by God, look at (2nd Peter 3:5 - 7, 13).
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 4:17
    DJ, you've got me thinking over this, so pardon my further question: if all this existed as you suggest (i.e. Adam in Eden & the others in various parts of the world), then what happened at the Flood & subsequent to its devastating result? Was the Flood contained locally, or was it a global flood? If global (by all indications it was: Genesis 6:17), then what of the future of those 'others'? Possibly, a second Ark? And if I'm here walking the Earth today, who are my ancestors, since I've not come out of Adam, Noah & his descendants? I'm getting more despondent & fearful as I consider this proposition & the possibility of its reality, & this would affect many reading these comments.
  • D.J. - in Reply on Philippians 4:17
    Chris,

    Page 2

    Another popular theory among Bible students concerning the flood of Noah's time is offered to explain the fact that not only did the different ethnic races of humans survive the flood, but that the "giants" (Genesis 6:4) that were upon the earth before the flood, also survived the flood. Giants are the product of fallen Angels mating with humans. They survived because Scripture states that they were upon the earth "also after that" (Genesis 6:4), hence, after the flood of Noah's time occurred. More proof lies in the fact that David fought the GIANT Goliath approximately 2500 years later. This theory explains that the flood of Noah's time was only localized to that particular area in which Noah and the rest of the extended families of Adam lived, and migrated into. The flood was sent unto this specific area that was originally inhabited by the offspring of the fallen angels (rendered "sons of God" in Genesis 6:2, 4), and their families. They initially populated this particular land because their instruction was to come expressly unto the daughters of Adam, to "take them wives of all which they chose" (Genesis 6:2), so that they could "bare children to them" (Genesis 6:4), thereby intermixing and corrupting the seed line of the Messiah to the point of no return. These "giants," and their offspring, eventually may have settled outside the flood area, and subsequently were not a part of that destruction, also look at Genesis 12:6, 13:7, 15:19 - 21.

    I believe that either, both, or a combination of these, and other possible scenarios that can be backed by Scripture, are the reason why all races are on the earth today.
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 4:17
    Page 2.

    At least, we're referring to the same Book, so one hurdle is omitted, but we have to deal with the evidence from Scripture first.

    Then further to your Page 2, in reference to the giants, their survival post-Flood & their progeny would be difficult to comment on, since the foundation is not agreed upon. So with just a quick response to that: Is the mention of giants in those days a direct reference to the sons of God mating with humans or were there giants prior to that occasion? (Genesis 6:4). Did not the offspring of the giant-human mating produce "mighty men of renown'? Even if the whole Earth was not flooded, but only in a specific locale, it remains that God destroyed every living substance from the Earth (Genesis 7:23). And, how far back can the lineage be traced for the Caananite, Perizzite, Hivite & the Hittite? To Noah or to a post-Adamic race? If to Noah: what's the proof? If to another race of people: which race?

    So my point is not to discredit your beliefs but to show that insufficient evidence is given to formulate anything outside the parameters of the Word. We can't assume something because it justifies or gives meaning to something else that may be evident. Why? Because our hypotheses may well be completely out of kilter thereby producing an erroneous outcome. I realize I don't have the answers, but I know for sure, that I would rather declare ignorance than to surmise/assume/calculate on certain 'facts' that cannot be clearly supported in Scripture.
  • D.J. - in Reply on Philippians 4:17
    Chris,

    Page 3

    These are some very important subjects that you seem to be a bit unsure of. As I am sure you already are, we have to dig a little bit under the surface; that is where the hidden treasure is. If we do not understand what happened in the beginning, how will we understand what will happen in the end?

    "And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man" (Luke 17:26), also look at Isaiah 46:10, Amos 8:11, Matthew 24:37, 2 Timothy 2:15.

    Since we have been discussing the first chapters of Genesis, I will leave you with this.

    The sons of God are Angels, look at Job 1:6, 7. The fallen angels came down from heaven and mated SPECIFICALLY with the daughters of Adam, producing giants. The flood came not only to rid the earth of evil men, but to preserve the lineage from which Christ would come (due to the success of the fallen angels).

    Satan was an angel. Eve was beguiled by Satan. The word "beguiled" means to be seduced (Strong's). What happened in the garden to Eve (and Adam) was the first attempt to blot out the seed line from which the Messiah would come, and was the same thing the fallen angels were guilty of during their second attempt. The punishment Eve (and the rest of womankind) would from that point forward endure had to do with BIRTH, look at Genesis 3:16; and the punishment Satan faced included a separation of his PROGENY from that of the woman (Genesis 3:15).


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