Philippians Chapter 3 Discussion

  • Bill Murrell - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Ephesians 4 26 explains about being angry. Exodus 20'5 say he is a jealous God also. God is sad when we are stubborn and don't have faith to obey him and we read all through the bible that when his children are disobedient God pours his wrath out
  • Ben W - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Depends what you mean by being kind. If you're referring to some type of veganism thing, then that's not biblical.
  • Suze - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Hi Bill , I agree . All living things are part of God's gorgeous creation , I know that God loves us humans and I can't imagine that He doesn't love all the other amazing creatures that He created . I have to say that I do wonder how God feels when He sees all the awful things that we have done on His earth and to it . He sees everything and I'm guessing that a lot of it isn't a pretty sight . Does He feel sad ? Or angry ? I can't wait for the day that He will make all things new .
  • Bill Murrell on Philippians 3
    As long as you believe in Jesus, Love and Make peace with God and man. You will also be kind to his animals. Love is the Key.
  • Julian - in Reply on Philippians 3
    1John1:3That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

    Christians forsake fellowship with each other for companionship with dogs, cats, golf, sports, bars, dining out, children, grandchildren, etc. Justify yourself all you want, but it is time to be convicted by the truth. We prefer the comfort and safety of a dog companion, to a meaningful Christ-like engagement with our fellow believers.
  • GiGi again - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Julian, As some have pointed out, dogs are God's creatures and were created as being good. Dogs are one of many animals God has allowed us to domesticate. Not all animals can be. So, I think God purposed this to be so. Mankind continues to domesticate new species of animals. Some people have iguanas for pets and they can be tamed and leash trained. Some people have emus or ostriches for pets or raise them for food. Some people have birds like parrots for pets. We have domesticated rabbits (an unclean animal in OT), guinea pigs, hamsters, rats, ferrets, llamas, elephants, and horses. All of these are God's creatures and were created being good by God.

    So, if you do not like dogs or any other animal, that is your prerogative, but to God, every creature He created was created good before Him.

    God Bless You, Julian
  • GiGi - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Dear Julian, I myself am not much of a dog person and have never had a dog for a pet. I have had cats, which I prefer. But domesticated dogs are pets or helpers on farms or for security or police enforcement purposes. They serve man in many ways.

    In biblical times, they were not domesticated like today. They were not welcome into homes and ran around in packs scavenging and being brutal to other creatures and humans.) But now, thousands of years later, dogs have been breed for many purposes for mankind. They are loyal and good companions to many. I do not like it when dogs jump up on me, growl at me, run at me, etc. but I don't mind well behaved dogs. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion about dogs. i am just not sure that the Bible expressly forbids having dogs as pets. Maybe you know of a Scripture that speaks to this.
  • Kay - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Julian, I admit that we weak humans can go overboard in an undue affection for dogs. I myself have to endeavor, by God's grace, to keep myself from being too mushy over them. :)

    First - let us remember the Syro-Phonecian woman who asked Jesus to cast the devil out of her daughter. Jesus at first denied her request, saying that He was come to first seek the lost sheep of israel. She responded, "even the puppies get the crumbs that fall from their Master's table." Jesus did not upbraid her, saying something like, "Puppies shouldn't be in the house in the first place!!" :)

    It's true that some 'dogs' of the wild type are sly, cruel and savage. Those would be more of what would describe evil people!

    Dogs in homes are domestic animals. This is a sad commentary in our day that people don't understand this. They neglect their dogs, or dump them on the street, thinking they can forage for themselves! That is absolutely false! Domestic canines cannot survive well on their own. They become sick, they become prey for animals; they become prey for evil people.

    Like other domestic animals, they are part of the class of creatures that we are to be stewards of. I have seen countless cases of dogs being rescued who have been so neglected; their fur was left unwashed and uncut - and the poor creatures literally become encrusted with feces, urine, and parasites. I remember one case of a little dog whose matted fur entangled the front paw so bad that it cut off circulation and the limb had to be amputated. Is this the way the Great and Good Creator would want His creatures taken care of? I can't believe that!

    I have a son who has been sick for 20 years, pretty much home bound, unable to get out to socialize and make friends. His pets add brightness and laughter and companionship to his painful days. They also serve as watch dogs and caregivers! One day my son fell - and it was his pup that alerted me to it! I thank God for these little helpers!

    God bless!
  • Grae - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Everything God created is awesome ! Dogs r highly intelligent , affectionate creatures . They r used by us as helpers in so many ways , guide dogs for blind people , police dogs , detector dogs for drugs and other chemicals , they can even detect a dead and buried body . Nothing that God created isn't beautiful .
  • TS - in Reply on Philippians 3
    You may have heard, and can see for yourself, that dog spelled backwards is god. It's unfortunate that you have such disdain for one of God's creatures that demonstrates unconditional love and provides comfort to those who need it and seek it. Saying that dogs are a distraction who offer no value may be true for you but is not universally accepted. Your neighbors may prefer the company of their dogs since they are loyal to them and will not abandon them simply because they do not like others with whom they spend their time (which seems to describe your attitude). It is kind of you to reach out to your neighbors in a caring and supportive way. However, there are countless people who do not have humans who regularly engage with them on a personal level and the companionship offered by a pet is a meaningful relationship which provides them with purpose and love.
  • Julian Pechacek on Philippians 3
    I agree with Paul's low opinion of dogs. Dogs are filthy and do not belong in a Christian home. It is despicable that so many people live with dogs in their house, some even sleep with dogs in their bed. He despised those who burdened the Church with a false Gospel. A dog is a false, poor substitute for a human companion. It requires food and care and returns no spiritual value. It is just a distraction from our work to love each other. It is difficult to visit with my neighbors who care for dogs, it actually isolates them from real human companionship. Labeling the false teachers as dogs was appropriate in Paul's day.

    Today, in the modern, apostate Church, people live with dogs and false teachers, and view it as normal.
  • Shawna on Philippians 3
    Where women allowed to preach or teach in the church
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 3
    I can think of one occasion where Paul was determined to get to Jerusalem by the Day of Pentecost & didn't want anything to stop him from doing so: Acts 20:15-24. Not sure if you were thinking of this one. If not, if you can remember anymore details.
  • Oluoch Collince Otieno on Philippians 3
    Which verse speaks about paul saying that he is still continuing with the journey...he has not reached yet
  • Almad - in Reply on Philippians 3:2
    Thank you for the answer. I see that I misspelled "whose."
  • Clueless in Austin Texas - in Reply on Philippians 3:2
    Jesse, believe it or not, that's the first time I ever said that to someone.

    Someone had just sorta rebuked me for mentioning dogs. I was hungry, tired and just wanted to go... and my flesh ruined a perfectly good day.

    Thanks for the teaching tho' cause I really didn't know what it meant.

    I had the JW's come by my door. I would nicely disagree when they wanted to read the brochure to me, and I worked my testimony in other times. It went on a few months. I knew they thought they had me straddling the middle. I had to say my decision for Jesus was firm. Then I said after the Rapture they could still receive Jesus as their Savior...they might die for it, but at least they'd be received into heaven. They're very sweet, but very much blinded as are some Jews in Israel.

    My sweet tea and corn muffins failed.

    Thank you, Dear Friend
  • Jesse - in Reply on Philippians 3:2
    Hello Mishael,

    If I may share with you what I've learned about the phrase "God Speed." It is only used in Second John verses 10-11 as far as I know. Now in second John, it talks about deceivers and false teachers that were corrupting the church.

    It says in Verse 9 that whosoever transgresses, and abides not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God, Does not have God! A person is called a transgressor that's going beyond. The Gnostics went beyond the teachings of Jesus Christ, or the doctrine of Christ.

    And they went beyond the teachings of the apostles. They did not remain in the doctrine of Christ, but they went in another direction. And John says they do not have God. And then it says "He that abides, and that's a Present Participle, meaning the one who is abiding continuously in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son. Uh oh! The Gnostics don't believe the Father and the Son go together, or as one. Here we go again!

    But as far as this phrase "God Speed," it means do not speak greetings. If someone comes knocking on your door trying to share the "gospel" with you, and you know it is false, you are not to let them in your home.

    Verse 11 gives us the reason. It says, "For he that bids him God speed, or greetings, is partaker of his evil deeds." That sounds pretty harsh and we might ask how is that showing love? But if love is not associated with the truth, it is not God's love, and we're deceiving ourselves.

    So if someone comes to my door and is bringing false doctrine, I can't even say "Good luck." I can't even say "Greetings anyway." Some people would do that and say I can't let you in my house because of your false doctrine, and they feel really bad about it, and they at least say "God bless you today as you go on your journey!

    John says even if you say that, you are a partaker of their evil work. The word partaker is the word KOINONIA which means fellowship. You're fellowshiping with their evil works. Now that's pretty heavy!
  • Mishael - in Reply on Philippians 3:2
    Are you using a King James Bible?

    I'm generally responding to other people's posts, which I enjoy very much. I don't care for controversy as a rule. I'm an old evangelist who can't seem to retire yet. I try to interest others to speak their faith to others while the Lord tarries a little more. I think that's what this forum is about. That, and just answering questions.

    You learn stuff on the sidewalks of life. If I ran into you, I would think you are not ready to hear the Good News.

    I've been fasting all day, the sun is setting and I'm off to quiet the grumbling in my middle :D

    My cat is holding a vigil over her bowl too. I will see everyone tomorrow. God speed. (I've never known what that really means, do you?
  • OSEAS - in Reply on Philippians 3:2

    You asked: "What does "Who God is their belly" mean?"

    It means glutton, guzzler, gourmand, guttler. Kind of people whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.
  • OSEAS - in Reply on Philippians 3:2

    Beware of dogs... Dogs? Who are them?

    JESUS said: Revelation 22:v.12 and 15

    12 Behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

    15 For without are DOGS, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    But who are these dogs among us? The answer is in Isaiah 56:v. 8-11

    8 The Lord God, which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.

    10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb DOGS, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.

    11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are SHEPHERDS that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.

    And the TAIL of the red Dragon? Who are them?

    The Word of GOD reveals who are them.
  • Dogs and False Prophets and Teachers - in Reply on Philippians 3:2
    Philippians 3

    In verse 18, Paul expressed his sorrow over the plight of unsaved false teachers. In this verse, he offers four descriptions regarding their behaviors.

    First these false teachers are not simply Christians who misunderstood a portion of the gospel. These are unsaved individuals, rejecting the gospel itself, and who will experience destruction apart from faith in Christ.

    Second, for false teachers, Paul notes their focus on greed. Many false teachers, then and now, seek money in order to make a profit ( 1 Timothy 6:5), rather that truly serving the Lord. In contrast to Christ-like believers, false teachers are more concerned with their own desires than the needs of other people ( Romans 16:18).

    Third, these false teachers call evil good, and promote sinful actions as being right. More than simply excusing sin, they celebrate it.

    Fourth, the goal of false teachers is not on Christ and being with Him for eternity. In contrast with Paul's teachings, throughout chapter 3, their goal is on the here and now. Their only thought is what they can get out of life and other people-today.

    Philippians 3:2, 3, 18, 19

    2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

    3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

    18 For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the ENEMIES of the cross of Christ:

    19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their BELLY, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.

    Mishael: do not be deceived. We're living in the time period of the Great Falling Away (into apostasy). Your defense is to know what the Bible says, on what someone teaches you. Search it out yourself. Don't "eat" everything someone tosses out your way, until you verify the scriptures.

    Bless those who ARE teaching truth. God will confirm it.

  • Ahmad on Philippians 3:2
    What does "Who God is their belly" mean?
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Philippians 3
    That's wonderful Sharon!

    I hope it was a blessing to you all.

    May God bless you and the family.
  • Sharon bazemore on Philippians 3
    Hi my name is Sharon I just want to say something that God done for me he helped me to be able to see my mom and my family that I didn't no and I think that is really good
  • D W L - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

    Genesis 18:27 And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes:

    Job 4:19 How much less in them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation is in the dust, which are crushed before the moth?

    Psalms 103:14, Psalms 104:29 , -- Ecclesiastes 3:20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

    Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

    We haven't cremated any of our family, no plans to. But I wouldn't think it makes a difference.
  • Peter Keijnemans on Philippians 3
    Suffering and Struggle.......

    That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death Philppians 3 verse 10.

    Being in Christ is enjoying Christ, The Holy Spirit and the Father, but als a continious fight against our old nature, sin, the devil and the spirit of the world.
  • Rev Jack C Gutknecht on Philippians 3
    Do you love these hymn lyrics as I do? (Based on Philippians 3:8)


    "I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord." Philippians 3:8

    Lord Jesu, when we stand afar

    And gaze upon Thy holy cross,

    In love of Thee, and scorn of self,

    O may we count the world as loss
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 3
    There's nothing indicated in the Bible about cremation, whether for the Jew or Christian. The only possible cremation event we have is in 1 Samuel chapter 31, where the dead King Saul & his sons (killed by the Philistine army) were found by the people of Jabeshgilead & they burnt their bodies & then buried their bones; so this was not a cremation in its fullest sense.

    But from a Christian perspective, we have no commandment to prohibit cremation & this is often taken up as an option, given the higher costs of buying a plot & the burial. And not knowing the RCC position on this (one would have to ask their priest), I would think that they too would permit it, under certain conditions. The early Church of the New Testament, would have used tombs or sepulchres as the Jews did, & so we today, generally bury our dead. My preference is for burial rather than cremation, though this is purely a person's choice.
  • Julie Ann Esnard on Philippians 3
    Please guide me as to the verses regarding cremation. Whether pro or anti. We have read Genesis 3:19. Need further direction as it pertains to the Catholic Church.
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