Numbers Chapter 16 Discussion



 
  • GiGi on Numbers 16 - 10 months ago
    NUMBERS CHAPTER 16

    Pt. 4

    Then the LORD told Moses to tell Eleazer, son of Aaron, to collect all of the censors that the 250 had used and forge them into plates to cover the altar, for since they were offered before the LORD, they were hallowed. These were to serve as a memorial to the people to remind them that no one but the seed of Aaron is to come near to offer incense to Him, exhorting them to not be like Korah and his company.

    But the next day, the people began again to murmur against Moses and Aaron. (It seems they are stubborn and unteachable). They said that Moses and Aaron had killed the people of the LORD. They had not honor for the LORD, but were interested more in self-preservation. Once again the glory of the LORD appeared at the tabernacle and the LORD said to Moses and Aaron to get away from these people so He can consume them. They provoked the LORD again without fear. God sent a plague among the people and many were dying. Moses told Aaron to go and take a censor and stand in the middle of the people burning incense in the censor as an atonement for the people. He stood between those who had died and those who were alive and the plague was stayed at that point where Aaron stood. Over 14,000 people died of the plague that day because of the influence of Korah and the rebelliousness of those who questioned and murmured against Moses and Aaron.

    How stiff-necked these people were. Before their very eyes they experienced God's judgment and they still were set against Him. God knows the hearts of all and He was right to decide that those people will die in the wilderness for their rebelliousness and unbelief in Him. The people were not concerned about provoking God with their sin, perhaps because they knew they were going to die in the wilderness, as God had said. They had a sense of hopelessness that caused them to not care about their future. They were bound up with sin and refused all the mercy and grace offered to them.
  • GiGi on Numbers 16 - 10 months ago
    NUMBERS CHAPTER 16

    Pt. 3

    So, Moses set the stage for the "proving". The following day all of those rebelling with Korah were to bring censors with fire to burn incense before the LORD along with Aaron. And so they did the next day. Korah also called all of the congregation to meet with them to oppose Aaron and Moses at the door of the tabernacle

    When everyone was assembled, the glory of the LORD appeared to all the congregation. He spoke to Moses and Aaron telling them to separate themselves from the congregation because He wished to consume them (destroy). But, again, Moses and Aaron fell on their faces before the LORD and interceded for the people. So the LORD told them to tell the congregation to go to the tents of Korah, Dathan and Abiram. So Moses, Aaron, and the 70 elders went to the tents of Dathan and Abiram. Then they spoke to the congregation, telling them to depart from the tents of these wicked men, touch nothing of theirs, lest you be consumed by their sins.

    So the people backed off from the tents of Dathan and Abiram, but surrounded the tents. Dathan and Abiram came out of their tents with their wives, sons, and children. Moses confronts them saying, "Hereby ye shall know that the LORD hath sent me tp do all of these works; for I have not done them of mine own mind." He goes on to say that if these men die in a way common to men, then they will know that the LORD had not appointed Moses. But if the LORD does something new by opening up the earth and swallowing them (a prophecy) then the people will know that these men have provoked God and are against God's choice of Moses and Aaron.

    Just as he ended speaking this, the ground opened up around Dathan and Abiram and their families and all were engulfed by the hole and fell in alive and perished. All of the congregation fled from this place fearing that if they stayed they may be swallowed up, too. Then God sent out a fire from Himself and consumed the 250 men who offered incense.

    cont. to pt. 4
  • GiGi on Numbers 16 - 10 months ago
    NUMBERS CHAPTER 16

    Pt. 2

    Moses did not argue with them, rather, he simply said that the LORD will reveal the ones He has appointed over the congregation.

    Then he prophetically explained the test that will show God's choice. Each of the 250 leaders along with Korah and his buddies were to take golden censors used to burn incense to the LORD and God will show who is the ones selected to be holy, anointed, and appointed to lead.

    Then Moses chastises Korah the Levite, turning Korah's words back upon him (ye take too much upon you, ye son of Levi) and goes on to say that Korah should not deem his service in the tabernacle to be a small matter by God's choice of the Levites. Korah was not satisfied with the role chosen for him in the service to the LORD and in ministry to the people, he desired to be a priest, which he was not a son of Aaron to be so. He was questioning how God appointed priests. He coveted what was not his to have. Then Moses tells them that he and his company are gathered against the LORD and disrespect Aaron by murmuring against him. Moses, as a good leader, pointed out their sinfulness, because it was seriously wicked.



    Next, Moses calls up Dathan and Abiram to present themselves before him. They refused to come to Moses. They charged that Moses had brought them out of a land of milk and honey (Egypt) to kill them min the wilderness and Moses has made himself prince over them. How they deflect away from their own sin of unbelief that sealed their judgment to die in the wilderness and not enter into the land of promise. They blame Moses instead of repenting and letting their hearts be transformed by God.

    Moses was very grieved and spoke to the LORD asking Him to not accept any offering from these leaders. Moses speaks that he has not done anything to harm these men, and that was true. He had stood in the gap multiple times for the people interceding for them with the LORD. He refused to walk away from the calling God had placed upon him. ..cont.
  • GiGi on Numbers 16 - 10 months ago
    NUMBERS CHAPTER 16

    In this chapter we read of the rebellion fostered by Korah (a Levite) and a few other associates, Dathan, Abiram, and On (from the tribe of Reuben). These men were questioning among themselves the legitimacy of Moses and Aaron as leaders of the nation. They stirred up dissent among the leaders among the tribes (250 men) to question why Aaron was the only one who could burn incense to the LORD as the High Priest. They spoke to Aaron and Moses, saying they take too much upon themselves as leaders and, since ALL of the people of Israel's congregation were holy and the Lord is amongst them, why do you (Moses and Aaron) lift themselves above all the others.

    Interesting, none of these men were present when God called Moses from the burning bush or when God sent Aaron to Moses and spoke to both of them, appointing them both as leaders of the people of Israel, giving them the authority and power to lead the people out of the bondage of Egypt, go against the Pharaoh, and be the go-between between the LORD and the people.

    Yet, these rebels thought that they knew better that Moses and Aaron how to run things. They did not esteem the wisdom of the LORD in choosing Moses and Aaron. These rebels were puffed up with pride and thought more of themselves than they ought to have. Moses was the meekest among men. They were unduly arrogant. They were willing to contend with Moses and Aaron, which was , in essence, contending with the LORD.

    Moses' response to this incident was to fall on his face before them. He was a humble servant. He was also a prophet. In this instance he spoke to Korah and the others with him saying, "Even tomorrow the LORD will shew who are His; and who is holy;

    and will cause him (the one set apart for holy service) to come near unto Him (the LORD); even him whom He hath chosen will He cause to come near to Him." Instead of arguing with the rebels or exerting any authority over them, cont. to pt. 2
  • Dennis Gehly on Numbers 16 - 1 year ago
    My mistake, I was looking at two different books in the Old Testament at time.
  • Luke - In Reply on Numbers 16 - 1 year ago
    Events: REBELLION OF KORAH

    THE SIN OF KORAH First cousin to Moses and Aaron

    These three associated, because encamped together on south side.

    PUNISHMENT:Conspirators. against Moses and Aaron , Threat to consume.

    Message to the People.

    28-30. Message to conspirators.

    31-35. Conspirators. Threat carried out

    They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the grave, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the assembly.
  • Adam - In Reply on Numbers 16 - 1 year ago
    Hi Sariah, I'm sure someone would be happy to help if you have a more specific question, but have you first tried just looking at the outline or commentary? These types of summaries already exist and might be good to read that first before asking people to take time to repeat the work already done.
  • Sariah on Numbers 16 - 1 year ago
    Could someone give me a quick summary of Numbers 16 please?
  • Marie on Numbers 16 - 3 years ago
    Verse 32-35 says; that the earth open up and swallowed them because they provoked the Lord, so did these people soul ended up in hell? I thank God for His mercy and Grace that he has not open up the earth upon us, we are living in some evil times, seems like some people act like that they are beyond death, we all got to see God and give in account of all of our deeds, good, or bad. I believe the end time is near, and closer than what some of us think.
  • Shem - In Reply on Numbers 16:32 - 3 years ago
    Those that didn't die in Christ, that weren't 1st fruits, take part in the 2nd resurrection. Only anti-christ (spirit), false prophet (spirit), and the devil (spirit) are tossed in the lake of fire. Take those 3 spirits away, and we'll live as God intended us to. Therefore, everyone gets in because God doesn't create junk. Judas, Stalin, and bogey man Hitler etc, get in. We are all part of the grand scheme unfolding.
  • Lee on Numbers 16:32 - 3 years ago
    after you die what happens if you arent saved
  • DarrellIBMs on Numbers 16 - 6 years ago
    Joyce,nothing has changed with people today.Look at the so called people of GOD in the LGBT group that profess GOD.(Leviticus18:22)"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination." Here GOD has spoken and what is mankind still doing?GOD has the final word and his word shall never perish.Not the same for disobedience they perish daily in their sins.
  • BSP on Numbers 16 - 6 years ago
    Jehovah God executed judgment against those who spoke against and disrespected his representatives. This shows that we should have respect for ones that Jehovah has placed in authority.
  • Joyce Joseph on Numbers 16 - 6 years ago
    I can't understand these people. After seeing so many signs and wonders they were still so disobedient and disrespectful. No respect for God's chosen servant
  • Irene123 on Numbers 16 - 7 years ago
    V. 38 is interesting in that God can use ANYTHING and any situation for our advantage. The gold of the censers were used as a sign to remind them - God is to be obeyed.
  • Jacobo on Numbers 16 - 7 years ago
    Always be contented with your position and gift of God in your life. Crossing, Envying and Coveting others Ministry is really dangerous.
    John Buyan song said He that is down need fear for fall , he that is low no pride he that is humble shall ever have God his Guide.
    Great lesson for me and you to learn. Humility is great before God.
  • Jean primus on Numbers 16 - 7 years ago
    awesome
  • Irene123 on Numbers 16 - 7 years ago
    To Harold on Num. 16:1 - 'On' went into the pit, of course. He aligned himself with Korah.
  • Esther on Numbers 16 - 8 years ago
    It is evident that Korah and his rebellious group had no idea who God is and they ultimately had no fear of God.The bible said they gathered against God and his anoited and the Lord destroyed them. You would believe that the rest of the people would have learnt a lesson, but they continued to rise against the anointed of the Lord and paid again with their lives. People have to learn obedience.
  • Jane on Numbers 16 - 8 years ago
    These isrealites had no regard or fear of God! It is fearful to see his presence as fire or cloud combined with all the miracles and yet no fear. God pls correct me if am behaving thus I will repent.
  • Harold on Numbers 16:1 - 9 years ago
    what happened to "On "
  • Christina perry on Numbers 16 - 10 years ago
    I find numbers interesting. it explains so much. im not a BIBLE scholar. however I am JESUS CHRIST SHED HIS BLOOD FOR OUR SALVATION FOLLOWER. I just started reading the old testament. PRAISE GOD. AMEN.
  • Margaret on Numbers 16:47 - 10 years ago
    Aaron was obedient and wanted God to forgive them and be merciful.
  • Louisa on Numbers 16 - 10 years ago
    I know my God is so merciful to us we know that there are things we should not be doing yet we do it any way and then when something bad happen to us we blame the Lord for it
  • Milos Korac on Numbers 16:32 - 10 years ago
    28 Then Moses said, "This is how you will know that the LORD has sent me to do all these things and that it was not my idea:
    29 If these men die a natural death and experience only what usually happens to men, then the LORD has not sent me.
    30 But if the LORD brings about something totally new, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them, with everything that belongs to them, and they go down alive into the grave, then you will know that these men have treated the LORD with contempt."
  • Victoria on Numbers 16 - 11 years ago
    Wow! The LORD is so merciful to have let those in the congregation stay alive when Aaron went out. I know I couldn't have done that. But that is why He is GOD! I believe that it applies to today's people. You know you do something wrong and complain about everything. Yet, the LORD forgives you times and times again. Thank you LORD for YOUR saving grace! Shaloom my siblings in CHRIST!
  • EVANS ACHIENG on Numbers 16 - 11 years ago
    It defeats me! Does it mean this the exact nature of man, or was it just the nature of the Israelites? So forgetful, so arrogant and non-repentant? They saw what happened to the young man fathered by a foreigner when he cursed God. The saw what happened to Miriam. They saw what happened when they carved flesh. They saw what happened to Korah and associates; they still could afford to murmur against Moses! WHAT A PEOPLE? Are we like them?
  • Michelle on Numbers 16 - 11 years ago
    So God listened to Moses when they were in the wilderness. God knows the future. He knew that the children in the wilderness had no faith that they would be able to enter into the Canaan land.


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