Anti666 JustisRighteous FastWatchPray WeAreDust on Matthew 9 - 2 years ago
The most accurate version of this verse is found in Luke chapter 5 verses 33 to 39. We are dust, which is written in Genesis chapter 2 verse 7. Fasting is not eating or drinking, and if you fast, you will increase your own dust and become how the Most High (Psalms chapter 91 verse 1) made you. We were lied to that fasting is not eating, but drinking, by the satanic elites (mostly Jewish, Jew ish because the Jew ish are not Israelites, which is written in Revelation chapter 2 verse 9, and Revelation chapter 3 verse 9), who lowered the dust of the Earth for thousands of years.
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
I believe in the first option you mentioned, because of the most Biblical support:
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
1 Corinthians 15:51-52 - These first two are clearly stated and would be hard to misinterpret, in my opinion.. Those who die are sleeping awaiting Jesus's return and judgment. But it says not all will sleep, some will be alive and meet Jesus immediately in the air.
Daniel 12:2
1 Thessalonians 5:9-10
Those who believe we go immediately to heaven rely on 2 key verses which in my opinion are misinterpreted.
1. "away from the body with the lord" - based on 2 Corinthians 5:8 and a commonly repeated phrase, but is fake news, because the Bible doesn't say that. Paul said he would "RATHER" be away from his body and with the Lord. It doesn't say in 100% of all cases and 100% of all scenarios 100% of the time if you die you are 100% of the time IMMEDIATELY with the Lord, regardless of anything and everything. It doesn't even come remotely close to saying that, but yet, that's the belief repeated perhaps because it gives people comfort, especially at funerals.
2. The other verse commonly cited as 'proof' of this belief is Jesus on the cross saying on this day you will be with me in paradise. Here's what Jesus didn't say- he didn't say you and 100% of all other people, 100% of the time, in any and all cases, regardless, will INSTANTLY be with me in heaven, and not even face judgment, despite me already saying all will be judged. Jesus didn't say that. God can do whatever He wants and make special exceptions for whomever He wants. It doesn't automatically mean every single action is a template rule for all of humanity. That would be a gross overinterpretation. Also... Jesus didn't say he would go to heaven with him. He said paradise, which may be different. It could be a waiting place where the dead sleep before Jesus returns and before judgment day. Something to think about.
Where in the bible can I find about death specifically....When we die do we wait in sleep until the world ends and then we are brought before God for judgement? or when we die do we have judgement and join god immediately after death? Reason for question is many say after a love one has passed, that he/she if with the Lord our God and looking down upon us now.
The anti christ is a man . And there is a false prophet that exalts him .
The anti christ does many things before his image is be taken or death . So it will not be any mystery who he is before the mark or image is forced upon us all . The time of decision will be when the mark is forced , why cut your self short on speculation ?
Maybe going off grid is a good idea if you don't want it over by death . And can tough it out til the Lord comes . Some will survive to the very end .
But whatever the future holds, as humans needing to maintain our basic needs for survival & happiness, we will generally have to fall into line with the status quo. How then the believer, who knows what the anti-christ or even anti-christian govts will require of us, interprets the law & then makes his choices, will become a very personal decision, which may even be in conflict with how other Christians view & decide on those issues.
The Bible forewarns us, so we're not in ignorance of the future. What form this mark takes, we're not told, but it would be another form of identification & giving access to things pertaining to life, so that every man, woman & child will be recognized as such. Most people would readily receive it as just another 'progression' for uniformity & order in society, but for the believer, it will be a mark that ultimately determines to whom our allegiance & worship is directed to.
If you are in fellowship with those who understand & warn others of this coming aspect of anti-christian compulsion by govts, then you have the support & encouragement to hold on to the Lord & face the consequences. I pity those believers in ignorance or weak in faith who would easily succumb, rather giving in to their need for survival than to their need to wholly love the Lord & obey Him only. Could we even anticipate, in that coming day, that communes of believers would live together & maintain separation from society for as long as possible, praying & waiting for the Lord's return? We might resemble the early Church who huddled together as Saul & his murderous horde sought them out. There'll be strength & joy from the Spirit of God to face all our circumstances.
Hi Norman, I think that the questions you have asked & the things you have been mulling over, have also been our thoughts at one time or another. It is my sense, that those who continue to read & study the Word of God will always be sensitive to what God's Will is for them & how to understand the things that happen around them. As believers, we are no longer of this world, neither its citizens, so that immediately takes our perspective of life now & in the future to a whole different plane, as we continually measure ourselves to biblical warrants & behaviours, both now & in the future.
That said & knowing human inclination to question things or rebel against introduction of things foreign to our way of life, I feel that all that will be introduced to us (as in the past also), will have a cumulative effect on us to make us more accepting of these things, believing them to be the natural order. True, someone or a govt can rise up & make an outrageous demand upon us & we have to accept it or else suffer penalty, or those same entities can use existing, accepted norms to bring out a more demanding ruling/law that makes it much easier for us to accept & adhere to.
Some of the things we have now, e.g. the credit card, eye/finger print scans at airports, tracking bracelets or inserts, plethora of cameras in our cities, the many agencies (both govt & private) that exchange & store information on almost every aspect of our existence, etc., are all readily accepted by the greater population (though some of us have grave concerns). I see that it won't take much more change to existing apparatus to bring in the 'pressing' need for a mark or common identifier on people so that 'better management & security can be afforded to the people'.
The point is: at what stage do we refuse to go further with such demands upon us? To that end, few refuse to use a credit card, travel by airplanes, the internet, etc. trying for as long as possible to keep themselves 'invisible'.
I am a very strong believer but I am concerned about this. When the end of time comes how are we to know what to do and the right things to do like the mark and how to do all the right things? Like the mark of the beast, does everyone get the mark or who does and how to know what all the right things are to do? The reason I ask this is it looks like it is going to be like we have never seen or ever will and I want to make sure I do all the right things when the time comes. Thanks you.
Again Choosing to Follow Jesus all the way - In Reply on Matthew 9 - 3 years ago
I'm not ashamed of my party affiliation. If the other parties supported Gods views on sin and righteousness, I would consider their platforms fairly.
Every election it's always the same: abortion takes center stage in issues. It helps us to to choose life for all Americans.
In Old Testament cultures, some people chose to sacrifice their children to the heathen god, Moloch. In times of severe famine, they ate their children. I find that extremely hideous. But for the Grace of God, let's follow Gods blessings of obedience. I'm not ever going to be in favor of anyone that disrespects human decency.
I suggest everyone Search this website for words: Moloch and Nicolaitans.
Ezekiel 3:19
Maybe Ostrich or Peacocks?
Job:13-18, Seems to me to speak of maternal abandonment. Being lifted up with pride? Sounds like pro-choice to me?
Anybody else? Comment?
I don't pick and choose what I believe from the Bible. I accept what it says. I am being conformed into the image of Christ.
Thank You Chris for reply: Didn't think much before about it till reading the Jesus saw a man. Matt. 9 / trying to concentrate reading. I know inspired writing of the Holy Spirit. Matt. wrote the book, the Lord speaking. Always the greatest love letter ever, wrote to the world.
Interestingly, authors sometimes use the 'third person' rather than the 'first person' nouns or pronouns. We can see it in Numbers 12:1-4 when Moses uses it in his writing. Also, John 13:23, John was speaking about himself as the "disciple whom Jesus loved". Jeremiah 1:1: "The words of Jeremiah the son of Hilkiah" but in Jeremiah 2:1, he says "the Word of the Lord came to me". And Paul in 2 Corinthians 2:2, "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago", referring to himself.
So, it's not unusual for authors to write in the first or third person, but the reason they do it can be varied. Maybe, they prefer that style, or to keep the focus on another in some special context, or even to avoid being too forward in their writing by using the first person pronoun. And then again, these same authors can revert to the first person elsewhere, so we can't judge them without knowing their purpose for doing so but as long as we can understand & appreciate the message they gave.
Matthew 9:9 If Matthew wrote the book of Matthew, Then why does it not speak the words as him being the writer. Jesus saw a man. And said unto him. ????
By nature every person is born in sin through the sinful seed of their natural fathers and conditioned therein ( 1 Peter 1:23). For that reason and in order to become a son of God, which are born of God, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God, a person must be 'Born Again' ( John 1:12,13; 3:3-7; 1 John 3:9; 5:4).
By attending a man-made institution a few hours a week ( Acts 7:48; 17:24), does not mean that a person can make a claim that they are followers of Christ and 'Born Again'. That is falsehood, as in truth they follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; Rev. 12:9). This is how Satan has transformed Himself into an angel of light ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15).
Only through 'True Repentance' will God be able to reveal Himself, and adopt you as His sons and daughters ( Rom. 8:15,23; 2 Cor.6:18; Gal. 4:5; Eph. 1:5; Hebr. 12:5; 1 John 3:1).
The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).
For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9), and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( John 14:17).
You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), It is only by revelation of God that you will come to know Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1). It is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).
I am in complete agreement with everything you said. I would just like to piggyback on your comments if I may. This is just something that I was taught.
Jesus says, nobody puts a new cloth on old garments. The ladies here probably already know that. Once it is washed, the new cloth is going to shrink and it is going to pull away. You don't put new cloth, unwashed cloth, on old garments.
Neither do you put new wine into old skins. The word bottle is the word skins. What would happen is that if you have new wineskins, and you have fresh wine and you put it in, as the wine expands, the skins expand. And then when the wine is fermented and the skins harden, that is it.
Now if you turn around and put new wine in those old wineskins, and the wine starts to expand, it is going to break the skins. You got to put new wine in new wineskins, not old wineskins.
So what Jesus is saying to them is you don't put the Holy Spirit into old religious people, they will break. With Jesus it is "Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be broken!" (My own personal paraphrase/not biblical). If you are governed by the law, you won't make it. New life in new wineskins, and new cloth on new garments, the other two don't mix.
Victor, Mt 9:16,17 shows Jesus speaking to John's (the Baptist) disciples. They come to Him asking the reason why they & the Jewish leaders fasted regularly, but Jesus' disciples did not fast. To that question, Jesus told them that while the Bridegroom was present, those around Him would be happy. So Jesus carries this thought to another illustration: of repairing clothing & reusing old wine bottles. Just as happiness & a wedding go hand-in-hand, so to using the correct repair cloth or new wine bottles were necessary if no damage was to take place.
Here, Jesus is the Bridegroom, His Coming & Teaching is the 'New piece of cloth' & the 'New wine'. Jesus is comparing His appearing & messages at this time as those that were radically different to what the Jewish leaders taught & that He came to fulfil the Law. If they tried to fuse the new cloth onto the old, the damage would be worse, as also putting new wine into old wine skins. He said that you cannot mix the new with the old or else there will be some major damage not only in defective teaching & living, but also of no eternal life in Heaven.
23 And when Jesus came into the ruler's house, and saw the minstrels and the people making a noise, 24 He said unto them, Give place for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn. 25 But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose. 26 And the fame hereof went abroad into all that land. .... ( Jesus uses this circumstance to prove to them /us HE has power over death, never-the-less in 2020 the world was shook over death by the pestilence. The 2020 death by the pestilence is the same death above and Jesus still has HIS power over death /it, plus Eternal-Life, according to John 3:16-21.
God's word is perfect, if I am caught conducting myself or presenting my self in a way that is ungodly, I would respect the one to insult me or tell me the truth to keep me from going to Hell. It is far better to be insulted and embarrassed in your ways and go to heaven than it is to be respected for your views and spend an eternity in Hell's consuming fire.
Stanjett, Gary, gave a reference to answer your question. His heart may be in the right place, it's not the right answer. That refers to a woman's natural monthly cycle. This condition has been with her 12 years. The answer as to what it is, may not be important? It was witnessed by several people and that's probably the important thing to take away.
And, behold, a woman, which was diseased with an issue of blood twelve years, came behind him, and touched the hem of his garment: Do anyone know what disease the issue of blood is?
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
I believe in the first option you mentioned, because of the most Biblical support:
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
1 Corinthians 15:51-52 - These first two are clearly stated and would be hard to misinterpret, in my opinion.. Those who die are sleeping awaiting Jesus's return and judgment. But it says not all will sleep, some will be alive and meet Jesus immediately in the air.
Daniel 12:2
1 Thessalonians 5:9-10
Those who believe we go immediately to heaven rely on 2 key verses which in my opinion are misinterpreted.
1. "away from the body with the lord" - based on 2 Corinthians 5:8 and a commonly repeated phrase, but is fake news, because the Bible doesn't say that. Paul said he would "RATHER" be away from his body and with the Lord. It doesn't say in 100% of all cases and 100% of all scenarios 100% of the time if you die you are 100% of the time IMMEDIATELY with the Lord, regardless of anything and everything. It doesn't even come remotely close to saying that, but yet, that's the belief repeated perhaps because it gives people comfort, especially at funerals.
2. The other verse commonly cited as 'proof' of this belief is Jesus on the cross saying on this day you will be with me in paradise. Here's what Jesus didn't say- he didn't say you and 100% of all other people, 100% of the time, in any and all cases, regardless, will INSTANTLY be with me in heaven, and not even face judgment, despite me already saying all will be judged. Jesus didn't say that. God can do whatever He wants and make special exceptions for whomever He wants. It doesn't automatically mean every single action is a template rule for all of humanity. That would be a gross overinterpretation. Also... Jesus didn't say he would go to heaven with him. He said paradise, which may be different. It could be a waiting place where the dead sleep before Jesus returns and before judgment day. Something to think about.
Where in the bible can I find about death specifically....When we die do we wait in sleep until the world ends and then we are brought before God for judgement? or when we die do we have judgement and join god immediately after death? Reason for question is many say after a love one has passed, that he/she if with the Lord our God and looking down upon us now.
Respectfully Submitted,
Tommy Hill
The anti christ does many things before his image is be taken or death . So it will not be any mystery who he is before the mark or image is forced upon us all . The time of decision will be when the mark is forced , why cut your self short on speculation ?
Maybe going off grid is a good idea if you don't want it over by death . And can tough it out til the Lord comes . Some will survive to the very end .
But whatever the future holds, as humans needing to maintain our basic needs for survival & happiness, we will generally have to fall into line with the status quo. How then the believer, who knows what the anti-christ or even anti-christian govts will require of us, interprets the law & then makes his choices, will become a very personal decision, which may even be in conflict with how other Christians view & decide on those issues.
The Bible forewarns us, so we're not in ignorance of the future. What form this mark takes, we're not told, but it would be another form of identification & giving access to things pertaining to life, so that every man, woman & child will be recognized as such. Most people would readily receive it as just another 'progression' for uniformity & order in society, but for the believer, it will be a mark that ultimately determines to whom our allegiance & worship is directed to.
If you are in fellowship with those who understand & warn others of this coming aspect of anti-christian compulsion by govts, then you have the support & encouragement to hold on to the Lord & face the consequences. I pity those believers in ignorance or weak in faith who would easily succumb, rather giving in to their need for survival than to their need to wholly love the Lord & obey Him only. Could we even anticipate, in that coming day, that communes of believers would live together & maintain separation from society for as long as possible, praying & waiting for the Lord's return? We might resemble the early Church who huddled together as Saul & his murderous horde sought them out. There'll be strength & joy from the Spirit of God to face all our circumstances.
Hi Norman, I think that the questions you have asked & the things you have been mulling over, have also been our thoughts at one time or another. It is my sense, that those who continue to read & study the Word of God will always be sensitive to what God's Will is for them & how to understand the things that happen around them. As believers, we are no longer of this world, neither its citizens, so that immediately takes our perspective of life now & in the future to a whole different plane, as we continually measure ourselves to biblical warrants & behaviours, both now & in the future.
That said & knowing human inclination to question things or rebel against introduction of things foreign to our way of life, I feel that all that will be introduced to us (as in the past also), will have a cumulative effect on us to make us more accepting of these things, believing them to be the natural order. True, someone or a govt can rise up & make an outrageous demand upon us & we have to accept it or else suffer penalty, or those same entities can use existing, accepted norms to bring out a more demanding ruling/law that makes it much easier for us to accept & adhere to.
Some of the things we have now, e.g. the credit card, eye/finger print scans at airports, tracking bracelets or inserts, plethora of cameras in our cities, the many agencies (both govt & private) that exchange & store information on almost every aspect of our existence, etc., are all readily accepted by the greater population (though some of us have grave concerns). I see that it won't take much more change to existing apparatus to bring in the 'pressing' need for a mark or common identifier on people so that 'better management & security can be afforded to the people'.
The point is: at what stage do we refuse to go further with such demands upon us? To that end, few refuse to use a credit card, travel by airplanes, the internet, etc. trying for as long as possible to keep themselves 'invisible'.
Every election it's always the same: abortion takes center stage in issues. It helps us to to choose life for all Americans.
In Old Testament cultures, some people chose to sacrifice their children to the heathen god, Moloch. In times of severe famine, they ate their children. I find that extremely hideous. But for the Grace of God, let's follow Gods blessings of obedience. I'm not ever going to be in favor of anyone that disrespects human decency.
I suggest everyone Search this website for words: Moloch and Nicolaitans.
Ezekiel 3:19
Maybe Ostrich or Peacocks?
Job:13-18, Seems to me to speak of maternal abandonment. Being lifted up with pride? Sounds like pro-choice to me?
Anybody else? Comment?
I don't pick and choose what I believe from the Bible. I accept what it says. I am being conformed into the image of Christ.
So, it's not unusual for authors to write in the first or third person, but the reason they do it can be varied. Maybe, they prefer that style, or to keep the focus on another in some special context, or even to avoid being too forward in their writing by using the first person pronoun. And then again, these same authors can revert to the first person elsewhere, so we can't judge them without knowing their purpose for doing so but as long as we can understand & appreciate the message they gave.
what was the names of the men in Matthew 9-2
Thank you
By nature every person is born in sin through the sinful seed of their natural fathers and conditioned therein ( 1 Peter 1:23). For that reason and in order to become a son of God, which are born of God, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God, a person must be 'Born Again' ( John 1:12,13; 3:3-7; 1 John 3:9; 5:4).
By attending a man-made institution a few hours a week ( Acts 7:48; 17:24), does not mean that a person can make a claim that they are followers of Christ and 'Born Again'. That is falsehood, as in truth they follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; Rev. 12:9). This is how Satan has transformed Himself into an angel of light ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15).
Only through 'True Repentance' will God be able to reveal Himself, and adopt you as His sons and daughters ( Rom. 8:15,23; 2 Cor.6:18; Gal. 4:5; Eph. 1:5; Hebr. 12:5; 1 John 3:1).
The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).
For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9), and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( John 14:17).
You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), It is only by revelation of God that you will come to know Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1). It is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).
I am in complete agreement with everything you said. I would just like to piggyback on your comments if I may. This is just something that I was taught.
Jesus says, nobody puts a new cloth on old garments. The ladies here probably already know that. Once it is washed, the new cloth is going to shrink and it is going to pull away. You don't put new cloth, unwashed cloth, on old garments.
Neither do you put new wine into old skins. The word bottle is the word skins. What would happen is that if you have new wineskins, and you have fresh wine and you put it in, as the wine expands, the skins expand. And then when the wine is fermented and the skins harden, that is it.
Now if you turn around and put new wine in those old wineskins, and the wine starts to expand, it is going to break the skins. You got to put new wine in new wineskins, not old wineskins.
So what Jesus is saying to them is you don't put the Holy Spirit into old religious people, they will break. With Jesus it is "Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be broken!" (My own personal paraphrase/not biblical). If you are governed by the law, you won't make it. New life in new wineskins, and new cloth on new garments, the other two don't mix.
Here, Jesus is the Bridegroom, His Coming & Teaching is the 'New piece of cloth' & the 'New wine'. Jesus is comparing His appearing & messages at this time as those that were radically different to what the Jewish leaders taught & that He came to fulfil the Law. If they tried to fuse the new cloth onto the old, the damage would be worse, as also putting new wine into old wine skins. He said that you cannot mix the new with the old or else there will be some major damage not only in defective teaching & living, but also of no eternal life in Heaven.
"new cloth, old garment; new wine, old bottles"?