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  • Victor
    Could anyone help me to undertand

    "new cloth, old garment; new wine, old bottles"?
  • Chris
    Victor, Matthew 9:16,17 shows Jesus speaking to John's (the Baptist) disciples. They come to Him asking the reason why they & the Jewish leaders fasted regularly, but Jesus' disciples did not fast. To that question, Jesus told them that while the Bridegroom was present, those around Him would be happy. So Jesus carries this thought to another illustration: of repairing clothing & reusing old wine bottles. Just as happiness & a wedding go hand-in-hand, so to using the correct repair cloth or new wine bottles were necessary if no damage was to take place.

    Here, Jesus is the Bridegroom, His Coming & Teaching is the 'New piece of cloth' & the 'New wine'. Jesus is comparing His appearing & messages at this time as those that were radically different to what the Jewish leaders taught & that He came to fulfil the Law. If they tried to fuse the new cloth onto the old, the damage would be worse, as also putting new wine into old wine skins. He said that you cannot mix the new with the old or else there will be some major damage not only in defective teaching & living, but also of no eternal life in Heaven.
  • Jesse
    Chris,

    I am in complete agreement with everything you said. I would just like to piggyback on your comments if I may. This is just something that I was taught.

    Jesus says, nobody puts a new cloth on old garments. The ladies here probably already know that. Once it is washed, the new cloth is going to shrink and it is going to pull away. You don't put new cloth, unwashed cloth, on old garments.

    Neither do you put new wine into old skins. The word bottle is the word skins. What would happen is that if you have new wineskins, and you have fresh wine and you put it in, as the wine expands, the skins expand. And then when the wine is fermented and the skins harden, that is it.

    Now if you turn around and put new wine in those old wineskins, and the wine starts to expand, it is going to break the skins. You got to put new wine in new wineskins, not old wineskins.

    So what Jesus is saying to them is you don't put the Holy Spirit into old religious people, they will break. With Jesus it is "Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be broken!" (My own personal paraphrase/not biblical). If you are governed by the law, you won't make it. New life in new wineskins, and new cloth on new garments, the other two don't mix.
  • Victor
    Thank you, Chris and Jesse!
  • Obbie Beal
    23 And when Jesus came into the ruler's house, and saw the minstrels and the people making a noise, 24 He said unto them, Give place for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn. 25 But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose. 26 And the fame hereof went abroad into all that land. .... ( Jesus uses this circumstance to prove to them /us HE has power over death, never-the-less in 2020 the world was shook over death by the pestilence. The 2020 death by the pestilence is the same death above and Jesus still has HIS power over death /it, plus Eternal-Life, according to John 3:16-21.
  • Roger Holdroyd
    Please be respectful to each other. None of us are perfect and my see things in a different light to someone else. Be polite. Do not put others down.
  • TJ
    God's word is perfect, if I am caught conducting myself or presenting my self in a way that is ungodly, I would respect the one to insult me or tell me the truth to keep me from going to Hell. It is far better to be insulted and embarrassed in your ways and go to heaven than it is to be respected for your views and spend an eternity in Hell's consuming fire.
  • Richard castillo
    correct, thanks for pointing that out
  • Stanjett
    And, behold, a woman, which was diseased with an issue of blood twelve years, came behind him, and touched the hem of his garment: Do anyone know what disease the issue of blood is?
  • Geoff
    Stanjett, Gary, gave a reference to answer your question. His heart may be in the right place, it's not the right answer. That refers to a woman's natural monthly cycle. This condition has been with her 12 years. The answer as to what it is, may not be important? It was witnessed by several people and that's probably the important thing to take away.
  • Gary Olsen
    The answer to your question can be found in Leviticus 15:19-27.
  • Ann
    The issue of blood: Hemorrhage . The KJV Bible has given us three witnesses : Matthew 9:20 Mark 5:25 Luke 8:43.
  • BSP
    Verse 12 shows that Jesus could see the need for spiritual healing and wanted to offer spiritual health to all those sick in this way.
  • Patty Tozi
    For God So Loved The World That He Gave His Only Begotten Son That Whosoever Believed In Him Should Not Perish, But Have Everlasting Life. Your Father gives you many things in a Lifetime-- most of which you will not appreciate, until way after he is gone: A Father gives the greatest gift anyone can give another person. He believes in me.
  • Thank you Jesus, SON of God.
    Considered this "word"? > 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; > OR? 1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. >John 17:25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
  • Alex
    Bruce Jesus said he that Soweth that good seed( THE LIVING WORD ) is the SON OF Man and that good seed is the very seed of God as to whom the WORD came it made them GODS.Ya gotta realize that Christ Jesus is able to propagate very God in humans No mere man cd do that but God the son When he breathe on them he was propagating God the H.G. in humanity. Only God th Son cd reproduce God in humanity gb
  • Alex
    Bruce yes Christ was FLESH AND BLOOD but he also says my words are spirit and life, Jesus cd not sow that good seed which is the very seed of GOD by which we are bornagain of that incorruptible seed the WORD TH LIVING WORD NOT THE WRITTEN WORD ITS ONLY THE LIVING WORD THAT IS GOD No mere man cd sow the very seeds of God. He breathed on them and they received th H.G. HIS BREATH WAS HIS WORDS Gods
  • Bruce
    What you're Saying is that you Don't Believe God, that The Word Became Flesh. A Body Made of a Woman( John 1:14, Galatians 4:4) --- A Spirit Hath not Flesh and Bones(Luke 24:39) / The Promised Seed is Christ(Genesis 3:15, Galatians 3:16) The Holy Spirit is Our Comforter and Teacher( John 14: 16, 26) What you're Doing is Twisting His Word for you're Foolishness, Which is Heresy. Ask Forgiveness
  • Alex
    Bruse are you trying to say that Christ was just a mere man mere flesh ? Shame on you. NO MERE MAN CD HAVE BEEN THE ATONEMENT FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD TH LAMB OF GOD HAD TO BE WITHOUT THE STAIN AND THE SPOT OF ADAM MERE MAN NONE RIGHTEOUS NO NOT ONE. HIS FLESH HAD TO BE FROM GOD INORDER TO BE THE ATONEMENT FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD NO MERE MAN CD HAVE SAID YOU MUST EAT MY FLESH AND DRINK MY BLOOD
  • Bruce
    His Word Makes it Plain.A Virgin Shall be with Child(Matthew 1:23)God Sent Forth His Son,Made of a Woman(Galatians 4:4)---A Body Hast Thou Prepared Me(Hebrews 10:5) The Word Made Flesh(John 1:14) / There is a Point of No Return
  • Alex
    Bruce Jesus was Heavenly flesh meaning God the SON, God said i will multiply thy seed as the STARS OF HEAVEN.THEY SAW HIS STAR IN THE EAST ETC AND PETER SPEAKS OF that DAY STAR THAT RISES IN OUR HEARTS, JESUS WAS INDEED THAT SEED OF GOD NOT THE SEED OF ANY EARTHY MAN AS GOD IS HEAVENLY SO CHRIST WAS ALSO HEAVENLY CELESTRIAL. HE PLAINLY TELLS HIS DISCIPLES I AM THAT BREAD FROM HEAVEN TH LIVING WORD
  • I am that Michael Isaac Dale
    Ye perverted the right ways of the Lord, saying, Jesus WAS flesh. and, Most assuredly Jesus Christ CAME. Why say was flesh and came when the Living Word now says IS COME? Proud and envious, ye hope to destroy GOD'S gift of faith. (Now this I say, brethren, THAT flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. And THIS mortal must put on immortality.)
  • Bruce
    Alex: Celestial Bodies are Stars, Asteroids, Moon. Terrestrial Bodies are The Planets. All Flesh is Not The Same Flesh: There's One kind of Flesh of Man, another Flesh of Beasts, another of Fish and another of Birds(1 Corinthians 15: 39-41) and The Word was Made Flesh and Dwelt Among Us --- (John 1: 14) Christ was Not a Body of a Bird, Beast or Fish. He had a Body Made of a Woman(Galatians 4: 4-7
  • I am that Michael Isaac Dale
    Ye do slip saying, That there should be Mockers in The Last Time, Who Should Walk After Their Own Ungodly Lust. (As it is written, Little children, it is the Last Time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the Last Time. For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ Is Come in the flesh.)
  • Bruce
    Your title Shows Pride, Your Post Shows You Are a Murmurer and complainer, Walking after Your Own Lusts. God Wrote of Such That there should be Mockers in The Last Time, Who Should Walk After Their Own Ungodly Lust( Jude 1:18-19) Saul's Attacks, Way More Severe and The Lord Washed him and Gave him His Spirit. Paul Became a Mighty Servant of God. You Can To. If He Tugs on Your Heart Ask Forgiveness
  • Alex
    Michael Isaac Dale yes Jesus was flesh but not earthy flesh there are 2 kinds of flesh earthy and heavenly, Celestrial and Terrestrial as the scrip. says Jesus told the Jews you are of this world i am NOT OF this world You are from Beneath i am from Above, b/f Abraham WAS I AM .God Almighty was his absolute Father making him GOD THE SON , UNTO THE SON HE SAID THY THRONE O GOD IS FOREVER AND EVER.
  • Adrian
    YOU KNOW THAT KJV IS ONLY TRUE WORD OF GOD,NO COPYRIGHTS SO EVERYONE CAN HAVE ONE FREELY. NOT COOL YOU MAKES GREEDY BUSINESS ON IT.,SO UNCOOL!!!
  • I am that Michael Isaac Dale
    Do you that calls itself BSP, Alex, Bruce, Servant, Michael, David, Steve, Obbie, Patty, Andrea, Bob, Disciple, Cynthia, John, Ivy, George, Lauren, Word, Grant, Marlo, Benny, Spiritual, Christian and many names (all while being tried in the court of GOD my Holy Father,) not know you are seen as false Christs and false prophets by knowing, but not confessing, that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh?
  • Yaboy@sean19
    verse 24: Jesus is life not death
  • LYDIE FELIX
    All i have to say is: PRAISE THE LORD! THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR BEING THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE. I LOVE THIS CHAPTER: IT ENCOURAGES ALL GOD'S CHILDREN TO BELIEVE AND HAVE FAITH IN GOD. FOR, WITHOUT FAITH WE TRULY CANNOT PLEASE HIM. Hallelujah! OUR GOD IS THE GOD OF THE IMPOSSIBILITY. AMEN. AMEN. AND AMEN. " LORD I BELIEVE, LORD I BELIEVE, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE. LORD I BELIEVE....."


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