6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the CARNAL mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the FLESH cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Hebrews 11:6 (View whole chapter)
But without faith it is impossible to PLEASE him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Mishael: the 11th Chapter of Hebrews is known as "THE BOOK OF HEROES OF FAITH".
We all walk by faith and not by sight.
And God tests us in little things first. Tithing is a total work of faith. On Christmas Eve, I and my son were sitting at a traffic light. We saw an old man cross in front of us; head down in the freezing rain. All the money I had was 20 dollars for Christmas dinner. I asked my 8 yr old son if we should, and he shouted YES. I jumped out and gave the old man a hug and said Blessed Christmas and gave him the 20. We both thought upon him the next day. He was our Christmas blessing! Friends called and said to come over and eat with their family.
It doesn't take great faith. Just simple obedience to the Holy Spirit; who IS God. He never asks us to do impossible feats of faith: just ordinary things.
What will we do if the Holy Spirit taps us on the shoulder and asks us for a small act of faith?
The right answer to your question of what pleases God, is to be a person of faith. Like Jesus.
If you follow Jesus you will listen to what he says in scripture:
Matthew 11:29
"Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls."
If we want God's Grace (Reward) we must become humble as the apostle relates below:
1 Peter 5:5
"Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble."
1 Peter 5:6
"Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:"
Humility is better than gold. We can't buy humility, but we can pray REAL REAL REAL HARD for it, and hope the Holy Sprit blesses us with it!
Good morning my sister's and brother's in CHRIST; sometimes in order to get your blessing you have to keep some things to your selves, being prideful and having attention brought to yourself, is self reward.... It doesn't give GOD the glory that he deserves for HE is the ONLY one who supplies us the gifts to do what we are able to do.
Everyone have a bless and prosperous day and I look forward to our next study discussion.
I do not know your situation, sometimes we can go through some pretty lousy times, that is hard to for us see an out. It can look so dark we cannot see any light. Let me assure you there is light out there if we hold fast to our faith. Start with prayer, ( Psalms 66:20) Blessed be God, which hath not turned away my prayer, nor his mercy from me.
Matthew 6 is a good chapter, if we strive to live in this way the Spirit of Christ will lift us up and give us the strength to get through. We must keep in our thoughts, the life to come is our hope in Jesus Christ. It may take time but don't give in and when you see better times don't forget who brought you through, give Him all the praise and glory.
( James 1:2-4) ( Psalm 34:17) ( Proverbs 3:5-6) ( 2 Corinthians 1:10) ( Colossians 1:13) ( James 1:12)
Dear Proscovia , we have all been where you are right now , please don't dispair , try to stay calm and think before you act , every thing will be ok , have patience and trust in your Saviour , the harder you lean on Him the more He will support you , don't fear any thing ,He is with you . Matth ch28 v20 , John ch16 especially v 33 and any Psalm , these are all a massive comfort to me , pray also , tell God how you feel , He already knows but it helps US when we pray , prayer is always good for us but we must be very honest when we pray , honest with ourselves and with our God . God loves our honesty , it isn't always pleasant but He wants us to trust Him and we show are faith by honest prayer . Our truth is some times unpleasant because we are all sinners but God is extremely mercyfull , the least we can do is be honest .
Brother Jesse. You're certainly not "rambling on". That was a spot on explanation of that verse & we all need to hear it & be reminded of it's Truth regularly - keeping our 'accounts' short with both God & man.
I personally do not know what other version uses the words trespass and trespasses. It looks like you did a search of different translations but could not find the answer? The King James uses the words debts and debtors. That would be correct, as that is how it was originally written in the Greek text. It is the word OPHEILO. In Matthew 6:12, it says, "And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors." Again, that is a proper translation.
In the book of Philemon, Paul presented to Philemon that when you sin against God's justice system, you owe God. That's a debt. It's the same word, OPHEILO. It would be like owing on your credit card. The only difference is you can pay off your credit card debt. When we sin against God, we now are in debt to Him, and it is a debt we cannot pay. When we sin against God, we owe God. How are we going to pay the debt? Jesus came and paid the debt!
The correct translation from the original language would read "Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors," as it is written in the King James. And there is a principle there in verse 12. The principle is that I'm dictating to God whether He is to forgive me for the sins that I am confessing or not, based on my forgiveness of other people and their sins. If I do not forgive them, I cannot ask God for my forgiveness. It doesn't work that way.
I'm sure I'm telling you things you probably already know. I'm just rambling on and sharing information. I would be curious to find out when it ever read trespass and why someone would have translated it that way?
When or where was it written with trespass and trespasses in matthew 6:12? Instead of debt and debtors? Is this a real Mandela effect? I can't find any version of it using trespass and trespasses, but all sorts of evidence that it was written that way at one time. Do you have an explanation?
The bible says that God said "Haven't I said that ye are gods?" the key is little "g". But we do not and will not become God. Jesus said that bigger and better things than he we will do, but still does not make us God.
Brother Jesse Tacker, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
Hebrews 1:3 Who (Christ) being the brightness of his (the Father's) glory, and the express image of His (the Father's) person, and upholding all things by the word of his (the Father's) power, when he (Christ) by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the majesty on High.
Revelation 3:14 ....The beginning of creation....
Christ was the FIRST MAN and he is GOD. The beginning (the first man) and the ending (the last man).
Psalms 82:6 I (God) have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, is it not WRITTEN in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom (CHRIST IN YOU) the word of God came unto; and the scripture cannot be broken;
Christ is CREATING Sons of God; exactly like him, when he is finished we will be gods just as he is.
Romans 8:29 ....To be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son ....
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU which was ALSO IN Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD.
The saints cannot rule and judge the world without being EXACTLY like God.
Isaiah 32:1 Behold a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgement.
Man is not God. And you won't find that in the bible. The Creator entered into His creation in the form of a man. And is now at the right hand of God the Father. Man is not God. Men don't become God, nor is God in man. Nor are men God. God is only in you if you are born again. Otherwise your father is the devil. You won't find a single verse in the bible having anything to do with becoming God or man being God. We do become "like God" if you are part of Christ's body, meaning you were born again after Jesus' death but before the Great Tribulation.
1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt NOT be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is IN SECRET; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use NOT vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. (Sorta like 50 Hail Mary and Our Father, prayers?)
Mishael: The Lord wants us to pray from our hearts. Just as He wants us to give our offerings from our hearts; as unto God. That is often how missionaries work is funded; youth camps, etc.
We give our tithes to our Church that we attend, so they can pay the light bill, water bill, and church employees; maintenance stuff.
Trust me that God knows where every penny is and where it went.
He tells us: Do Not Judge. Why? Because He Alone is The Judge.
We commit our actions to Him, and He sorts out the details.
This is what's supposed to be in our hearts. Purity, Trust, and a knowing that our faithfulness will be rewarded, On Earth, When we most need it.
Pray in your own words, your thoughts, confess your doubts; repent of wrongs. Your conscience will always feel clean and un-clouded.
The more I study the more I can find the love of Jesus. I pray to Jesus for him to guide me through the valley. I'm Jesus I have to put my Faith. Amen.
Verse 8 says be sober, be vigilant. It means to be sober-minded. Vigilant means be on guard. It's the same thing Jesus said to the disciples in Matthew 26:41 when He said can't you wait and watch with me? They kept falling asleep. Be sober thinking, be alert, because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walks around seeking whom he may devour:
That's to Christians. The Jews would know that the term lion represented the enemy. Seven times in the Psalms David used the word lion as an example of his enemies. In Ezekiel 22:25, Ezekiel used the lion to describe the false prophets.
So Satan takes on this ravaging lion that's going around seeking whom he may devour. This is where the attention of the mind comes in. He roams around and scouts. Job Chapters 1 and 2 tell us that Satan scouts God's people. The fact that he's roaming around is continuous.
Every day, we're being scouted as to what it is that Satan can use to occupy the attention of our minds. He can't take our salvation away from us, but basically, his attitude is "Oh, the Lord saves you and now He wants to renew your mind? Well, I'll just keep you busy!"
So he occupies the attention of our mind. We're too busy, too tired, and we got too much going on. When he devours, he devours mentally, not spiritually. He cannot devour me spiritually but he wants to occupy the attention of my mind.
James says to resist. In James 4:7, he says to resist the devil, and he will flee from you. We don't have to fight him. He's already been defeated.
In Ephesians 6:11, Paul says put on the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Stand against is the word resist. He's to be resisted.
Verse 9: Whom resist stedfast, or solid in the faith, doing this, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished, or fulfilled in your brethren that are in the world. Every single brother and sister in Christ around the world is suffering or going through the same thing!
I would translate it as Thy will be done on earth, as in heaven. The reason I say this is because the Greek text uses two separate phrases. The Greek uses EN where it says in heaven. EN would be translated in. The King James uses in both times, but EN is not used both times in the Greek. It is not used again to say in earth. It should read on earth because instead of using EN for in, it uses EPI which would be translated on. I hope that makes sense.
Matthew 6:9-13 gives us the principles of prayer. This is known as the "Lord's Prayer" theologically, but in reality it is called the Disciples Prayer because Jesus is teaching the disciples to pray.
The real Lord's Prayer is found in John Chapter 17 where Jesus prayed in intercession for His people to the Father. That is the real Lord's Prayer. It is His prayer. This is the prayer for the disciples in Matthew Chapter 6.
In Matthew 6:10 (KJV), it says "Thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven."
What I take away from reading Matthew Chapters 16 and 18, is that Jesus taught that the disciples were to preach, and the disciples were to do the things on earth as it has already been decreed in heaven.
I would take Matthew 6:10 to literally be saying Lord, whatever you have designed in heaven to happen on earth today, let it happen. Let your will be done! Of course then we are submitted to God for everything that happens in our day as being God's will. What an awesome principle!
Romans 10:8-9. But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
1 John 1:9. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I Hope that helps
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the CARNAL mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the FLESH cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Hebrews 11:6 (View whole chapter)
But without faith it is impossible to PLEASE him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Mishael: the 11th Chapter of Hebrews is known as "THE BOOK OF HEROES OF FAITH".
We all walk by faith and not by sight.
And God tests us in little things first. Tithing is a total work of faith. On Christmas Eve, I and my son were sitting at a traffic light. We saw an old man cross in front of us; head down in the freezing rain. All the money I had was 20 dollars for Christmas dinner. I asked my 8 yr old son if we should, and he shouted YES. I jumped out and gave the old man a hug and said Blessed Christmas and gave him the 20. We both thought upon him the next day. He was our Christmas blessing! Friends called and said to come over and eat with their family.
It doesn't take great faith. Just simple obedience to the Holy Spirit; who IS God. He never asks us to do impossible feats of faith: just ordinary things.
What will we do if the Holy Spirit taps us on the shoulder and asks us for a small act of faith?
The right answer to your question of what pleases God, is to be a person of faith. Like Jesus.
Matthew 11:29
"Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls."
If we want God's Grace (Reward) we must become humble as the apostle relates below:
1 Peter 5:5
"Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble."
1 Peter 5:6
"Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:"
Humility is better than gold. We can't buy humility, but we can pray REAL REAL REAL HARD for it, and hope the Holy Sprit blesses us with it!
God Bless
So we as believers are suppose to be humble like Solomon or just prideful or proudful like Satan? Just wanting to know your opinion
God knows, we think we know!
Everyone have a bless and prosperous day and I look forward to our next study discussion.
I do not know your situation, sometimes we can go through some pretty lousy times, that is hard to for us see an out. It can look so dark we cannot see any light. Let me assure you there is light out there if we hold fast to our faith. Start with prayer, ( Psalms 66:20) Blessed be God, which hath not turned away my prayer, nor his mercy from me.
Matthew 6 is a good chapter, if we strive to live in this way the Spirit of Christ will lift us up and give us the strength to get through. We must keep in our thoughts, the life to come is our hope in Jesus Christ. It may take time but don't give in and when you see better times don't forget who brought you through, give Him all the praise and glory.
( James 1:2-4) ( Psalm 34:17) ( Proverbs 3:5-6) ( 2 Corinthians 1:10) ( Colossians 1:13) ( James 1:12)
Prayers for better times for you.
RLW
Thank you for the kind and encouraging words!
I personally do not know what other version uses the words trespass and trespasses. It looks like you did a search of different translations but could not find the answer? The King James uses the words debts and debtors. That would be correct, as that is how it was originally written in the Greek text. It is the word OPHEILO. In Matthew 6:12, it says, "And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors." Again, that is a proper translation.
In the book of Philemon, Paul presented to Philemon that when you sin against God's justice system, you owe God. That's a debt. It's the same word, OPHEILO. It would be like owing on your credit card. The only difference is you can pay off your credit card debt. When we sin against God, we now are in debt to Him, and it is a debt we cannot pay. When we sin against God, we owe God. How are we going to pay the debt? Jesus came and paid the debt!
The correct translation from the original language would read "Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors," as it is written in the King James. And there is a principle there in verse 12. The principle is that I'm dictating to God whether He is to forgive me for the sins that I am confessing or not, based on my forgiveness of other people and their sins. If I do not forgive them, I cannot ask God for my forgiveness. It doesn't work that way.
I'm sure I'm telling you things you probably already know. I'm just rambling on and sharing information. I would be curious to find out when it ever read trespass and why someone would have translated it that way?
Have you ever read Psalms 82?
1 - God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he Judgeth among the gods.
...
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
8 Arise, O God, Judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
And Isaiah 41:v.23 says : - 23 Shew the things that ARE TO COME hereafter, THAT WE MAY KNOW that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, ...
I believe that was well put.
God bless.
Hebrews 1:3 Who (Christ) being the brightness of his (the Father's) glory, and the express image of His (the Father's) person, and upholding all things by the word of his (the Father's) power, when he (Christ) by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the majesty on High.
Revelation 3:14 ....The beginning of creation....
Christ was the FIRST MAN and he is GOD. The beginning (the first man) and the ending (the last man).
Psalms 82:6 I (God) have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, is it not WRITTEN in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom (CHRIST IN YOU) the word of God came unto; and the scripture cannot be broken;
Christ is CREATING Sons of God; exactly like him, when he is finished we will be gods just as he is.
Romans 8:29 ....To be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son ....
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU which was ALSO IN Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD.
The saints cannot rule and judge the world without being EXACTLY like God.
Isaiah 32:1 Behold a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgement.
1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt NOT be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is IN SECRET; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use NOT vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. (Sorta like 50 Hail Mary and Our Father, prayers?)
Mishael: The Lord wants us to pray from our hearts. Just as He wants us to give our offerings from our hearts; as unto God. That is often how missionaries work is funded; youth camps, etc.
We give our tithes to our Church that we attend, so they can pay the light bill, water bill, and church employees; maintenance stuff.
Trust me that God knows where every penny is and where it went.
He tells us: Do Not Judge. Why? Because He Alone is The Judge.
We commit our actions to Him, and He sorts out the details.
This is what's supposed to be in our hearts. Purity, Trust, and a knowing that our faithfulness will be rewarded, On Earth, When we most need it.
Pray in your own words, your thoughts, confess your doubts; repent of wrongs. Your conscience will always feel clean and un-clouded.
Now that you've read exactly what Jesus said .
Do the preachers, teachers, ministers, and
Television evangelist do as Christ said? Or is that the Devil starring straight into your eyes preparing you for everlasting HELL .
Verse 8 says be sober, be vigilant. It means to be sober-minded. Vigilant means be on guard. It's the same thing Jesus said to the disciples in Matthew 26:41 when He said can't you wait and watch with me? They kept falling asleep. Be sober thinking, be alert, because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walks around seeking whom he may devour:
That's to Christians. The Jews would know that the term lion represented the enemy. Seven times in the Psalms David used the word lion as an example of his enemies. In Ezekiel 22:25, Ezekiel used the lion to describe the false prophets.
So Satan takes on this ravaging lion that's going around seeking whom he may devour. This is where the attention of the mind comes in. He roams around and scouts. Job Chapters 1 and 2 tell us that Satan scouts God's people. The fact that he's roaming around is continuous.
Every day, we're being scouted as to what it is that Satan can use to occupy the attention of our minds. He can't take our salvation away from us, but basically, his attitude is "Oh, the Lord saves you and now He wants to renew your mind? Well, I'll just keep you busy!"
So he occupies the attention of our mind. We're too busy, too tired, and we got too much going on. When he devours, he devours mentally, not spiritually. He cannot devour me spiritually but he wants to occupy the attention of my mind.
James says to resist. In James 4:7, he says to resist the devil, and he will flee from you. We don't have to fight him. He's already been defeated.
In Ephesians 6:11, Paul says put on the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Stand against is the word resist. He's to be resisted.
Verse 9: Whom resist stedfast, or solid in the faith, doing this, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished, or fulfilled in your brethren that are in the world. Every single brother and sister in Christ around the world is suffering or going through the same thing!
I would translate it as Thy will be done on earth, as in heaven. The reason I say this is because the Greek text uses two separate phrases. The Greek uses EN where it says in heaven. EN would be translated in. The King James uses in both times, but EN is not used both times in the Greek. It is not used again to say in earth. It should read on earth because instead of using EN for in, it uses EPI which would be translated on. I hope that makes sense.
Matthew 6:9-13 gives us the principles of prayer. This is known as the "Lord's Prayer" theologically, but in reality it is called the Disciples Prayer because Jesus is teaching the disciples to pray.
The real Lord's Prayer is found in John Chapter 17 where Jesus prayed in intercession for His people to the Father. That is the real Lord's Prayer. It is His prayer. This is the prayer for the disciples in Matthew Chapter 6.
In Matthew 6:10 (KJV), it says "Thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven."
What I take away from reading Matthew Chapters 16 and 18, is that Jesus taught that the disciples were to preach, and the disciples were to do the things on earth as it has already been decreed in heaven.
I would take Matthew 6:10 to literally be saying Lord, whatever you have designed in heaven to happen on earth today, let it happen. Let your will be done! Of course then we are submitted to God for everything that happens in our day as being God's will. What an awesome principle!
Absolutely
Romans 10:8-9. But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
1 John 1:9. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I Hope that helps