Matthew Chapter 24 Discussion Page 4



 
  • Suze - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Yes ! They want smooth words instead of the Truth . For me it's just laziness , if you want to know the Truth , I mean really know it in capital letters , then you must read it for yourself . God's plan of salvation for us in Christ is actually quite simple , the rest is meat and drink to our hungry souls as we wait for the Kingdom , when I read the whole Bible it's strengthens me so much to see how God is in charge . He leaves nothing to chance and He knows each and everyone of us intimately , we don't need to be afraid in these dark times , as Jesus said , even the very hairs on each of our heads is numbered .The more we read the closer we feel to Him and our hearts are strengthened and our faith flourishes within us so that we can withstand anything this world throws at us , even our own deaths if we have to . Be not soon shaken ! Christ is coming ! For you !
  • Roman - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Because they are wrong, and have been wrong for centuries. The Lord has kept them in the dark because they preach their opinion over what was written.

    There is nothing worse that a foolish preacher. If you witness this, challenge it, and stop it before it grows.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Possibly out of tradition.

    In these several years of difficulty personally longer & even for " traditional American churches" it has given many of us opportunity to look deeper into scripture, understanding & " tradition " within the fellowships & to ask why, are they doing this, & that. I hope, pray & believe through these trials a better, more biblical, believing Church will come forth.
  • Jamie nichols on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Why do preachers preach that the church will be gone during tribulation when the bible does not say that.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Hi Bob, thanks for your post. There is such a need for correct teaching in our churches today. Many have numerous bible studies on faddish trends, but not enough teaching on the doctrines of the faith handed down from the apostles. Basic Christianity classes should be continually taught in our churches today. There should never be a gap. Any new believer should not need to wait more than a few months for a new course to begin. This is one of th4e best ways to combat false teachings and will soon enough put the false teachers out of business.

    Also, churches are not doing enough of correction and addressing false beliefs in the church community. We should be calling out the many false teachers that come through the television set and on the internet week after week. We should be countering their false teachings with true teachings and bring opportunities to hear truth telling evangelists, preachers, and teachers to more and more communities (especially one who do not have books, etc, to hawk).

    We should also pray for and work at restoring those who have been falsely taught to sound doctrine.

    We should look on these brethren with compassion, not contempt, not giving up on them, but seek them to disciple and put them in touch with a sure pastor who can sincerely and gently shepherd them.

    So, the church in this day has a big charge. To help as many as we can reach with the gospel and disciple these properly. Yes, the word tells us there will be a huge falling away, but we are to watch ourselves carefully, lest we fall away. We should make every effort to help those who are doubting, skeptical, caught in sin, slipping on false doctrine, and oppressed by the enemy. We have more power and influence than most people realize!
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    This is a question all "Pre Tribbers" (as I am) must come to grips with. Surely; as with any other prophetic scriptures at least a partial fulfillment occured by AD 70 (and in some ways with the further diaspora around AD 130.) This certainly confirms these things happening within a generation; and a 40 year one at that (allowing for the fact Christ may have been born a few years previous to AD 1 if the signs are aligning properly with the timeframe).

    The prevailing theory on 1948 being the beginning of the last generation is coming into question as we have according to Psalm 90:10 no time left and in fact if the Tribulation stated today; would go past the deadline of 2028 to some time in 2029 to bring "all things to pass"..namely the physical return of Christ. We could say the same thing about a 40 year generation from 1967 when Jerusalem came under Jewish control as more than 50 years have already passed. The possibility of a Psalm 83 war scenario makes sense to me to be the REAL beginning of the last generation as a time when ALL the trees surrounding the main "fig tree" will prosper. This would give those already siding with Israel such as the Gulf states and soon no doubt the Saudis access to tremendous economic wealth of natural gas and other resources off the coast to bring financial gain; and also lull the Jews to danger; and therefore eventually be more suited for a land of "unwalled villages" and the other conditions needed for the later Ezekiel 38 war to commence with the outer countries such as Turkey; Iran; Russia; and other long term enemies. That would probably be a time that they will sign the Danie 9:27 agreement when they perceive a position of strength; not weakness. It would seem at some point between now and then the Temple must be rebuilt. We also have to look at the emerging one world religion and the headquarters in the Mideast about to open in the next couple years for Jews; Muslims and Christians to worship together.
  • Bro dan - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Hello Jerry,

    It is my understanding that what Jesus meant by "this generation will not pass away until all these things be fulfilled" we need to understand the verses that are before and after Matthew 24:34 is Jesus providing a prophecy of future events. Once the signs of the end begin to be observed, the end is well on the way-then Jesus coming and the judgment will occur within that last generation.

    Jesus tells us what to look for in a parable here: Matthew 24:32-33 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

    When these signs happen "the generation on earth at this time" will experience the end times.

    God Bless
  • Bob - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Verse 13 says he that endures to the end shall be saved .

    I understand that to be , after the great falling away that is evident today many years now , and people start looking for answers due to troubles in the world , and the false prophets and their teachings will not endure the difficulties to come , because they are not truthfully or correctly taught . So the deceived fall away . But the church of Jesus Christ will remain and endure to the 2nd coming .

    Remember the story Jesus told about building your house on a rock and building it on sand . One endured the storms and the other fell .
  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    John 14:26

    "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

    1 John 2:27

    "But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."

    King James Version (KJV)
  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    No, from the time Jesus ascended this generation started we are the last generation he is talking to everyone, The last Days.
  • Jerry Donald Stoller on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    When I read Matthew 24:34, where JESUS says this Generation shall not pass away till all things be fulfilled.Does that mean that from verse one to verse 33 all of what JESUS said has happened while he was on Earth.or am I reading it incorrectly..
  • Wise men still seek him on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Mathew 24.11

    Notice the word many in this verse .

    They are very persuasive, being deceived themselves , but they never seem to come out of it and have huge followings .

    But they are wrong and miss out . Dear reader trust no man but the word of God . Ask God for wisdom he promises to give it to those ask in faith . He surely does and you will not fall for the fakes .
  • ROBERT DELROSSO on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    There is a Documentary on Amazon ("BEFORE THE WRATH"), which everyone should watch. It shows the Galilean Wedding Tradition:

    A man and woman are engaged, like Joseph and Mary.

    Like Christ and His Church at the Last Supper.

    They are called "Husband" and "Wife" NOT "Fiances" as we do today.

    They share a meal and the Man goes to his father's house, to build an extension in which he and his wife will live.

    Then, he goes to his Wife's house, to take her to his Father's House.

    But he does not know when that will be. Only the Husband's Father knows, in the Galillean Wedding Tradition.

    So at the Last Supper, when Jesus says to the Apostles:

    " In My Father's House, there are many Mansions. . . . . I go to prepare a place for you.

    I will come back and take you to be with Me."

    --- John's Gospel Chapter 14: Verses 2-3

    the Apostles understood that very well, since they were all from Gallilee and at least St. Peter was married,

    since his Mother-in-Law is mentioned in the Bible.

    So when Atheists make fun of the Apostles for believing in the VISIBLE Second Coming of Christ, in their

    lifetimes, they misinterpret Scripture.

    The Atheists say:

    "Look, that never happened in the Apostles Lifetimes,

    so it never will!"



    The Apostles were looking forward to the RAPTURE of the Church, NOT the Visible Second Coming of Christ!

    In 33 AD, after Jesus Ascended into Heaven, the Rapture COULD have happened in 34 AD or 534 AD!

    NO prophecies need to be fulfilled for the Rapture to happen, back then or tomorrow, as we celebrate Christmas

    Eve with our Atheist friends and Relatives!

    There could have been 2,000 years between the Rapture and the visible 2nd Coming!

    Probably NOT, but there COULD BE!

    A man named Anderson wrote several books: "DANIEL IN THE CRITICS DEN" (I lost it in a move!)

    And "THE SILENCE OF GOD".
  • GiGi again - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Hello Bill,

    Thank you for bringing those scriptures forward. I look forward to that day. I am 65 and may not be alive wen this happens, but will be one that is raised from the dead. But then again, it may happen in my lifetime. Each day, week, year that passes does bring us closer to that wonderful day when Jesus appears to claim His bride and rule and reign on earth.

    So, we probably be prepared spiritually for it as much as we are able to be sanctified in this life by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, we are exhorted to not resist the Holy Spirit and what He wants to accomplish in us in this life to serve and help others lovingly, and to prepare us for when our time in eternity begins.
  • Bill - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Great discussion GiGi: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels in heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall the coming of the Son of man be." Matthew 24: 36 & 37

    And...

    He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times? Matthew 16: 2 & 3

    God bless.
  • Jim Wood - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Thank God someone understands what "taken" means. Thank you Philip. Now if Christians could understand who the House of Israel is in the latter days.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Hi Rupert,

    Jesus is saying here that no one will be able to state positively the day and our Jesus returns at the end of time. No one can pinpoint the exact day and time. People who do are speaking falsely, since do pinpoint are in contradiction to what Jesus states. However, He does tell us to be ever ready for His return, living in such a way that we will not be surprised by His appearing. The Bible has many prophecies concerning events that will come to pass as the end draws near. We can be aware of these prophesies and make note of them. We can be wise in the Word in this, but He also says that it will be like in the days of Noah, life as usual so to speak, or perhaps exceedingly wicked, as it was before the flood.
  • Marcus on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Just reading some of the comments and arguments leads me to believe that Satan is succeeding in spreading confusion around the world and is using SOME that do not even realize they are helping him. Others may intend to do so. The statement says ----in plain words that "No one knows but the Father in heaven when Jesus will return". That's all it says and anything else is merely someone's ASSUMPTION or lie-----which causes confusion.
  • Rupert Greaves on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Please explain Verse 36
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Amen and Amen, Brother Philip!
  • Philip Christian Parks on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Matthew 24:40; "taken left" = The word "flood" (vv. 38-39) translates from the Greek noun root "" (transliterated "kataklusmos"; pronounced "kata-klooce-MOS"), which derives the English noun "cataclysm," which speaks of either a social, political, or geographical disruption so violent as to result in mass and total destruction. Certainly the flood of Noah's day qualifies this description.

    This verse (v.40) does not describe the Rapture of the Church. Those taken, are taken to be judged (cp. Lu. 17:34-37). Those left, are left to inhabit the Kingdom.

    LORD JESUS qualified the word "taken" in Luke 17:37 when HIS disciples asked HIM, "[Taken] Where, Lord?" The LORD answered, "Wheresoever the body {contextually a corpse; carcass} is, there will the eagles {vultures; carrion eaters} be gathered together."

    Those who are "taken" identify with those whom The LORD will "gather together" ( Rev. 16:16; 19:19) to judge them during Armageddon. Luke's expression as recorded in Luke 17:34 also agrees with Apostle John's description of "the Supper of the Great GOD" during which "fowls that fly in the midst of heaven" will assemble "to eat the flesh of" the armies of the Antichrist and his false prophet (see Rev. 19:17-18).

    Those who are "left" will "live and reign with CHRIST a thousand years" ( Rev. 20:4).

    The generation affected by the Flood presents a great typology: The earth's entire population were "taken" in judgment by the flood. In contrast, Noah and his family were "left" to replenish the earth.

    Moreover, GOD "took" the entire population of Sodom and Gomorrah in judgment when HE destroyed the cities with fire and brimstone. Nevertheless, GOD preserved Lot and his daughters when HE "left" them out of harm's way.

    In HIS parable of the net, The LORD graphically proclaimed this eschatological "taking" and "leaving": "So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just" ( Mt. 13:47-50).
  • Bible man on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Mathew 24.24

    Take heed brethren false prophets shall arise among you . Powered by the devil .

    No place is exempt from them .
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    If you're asking asking a question please re-word it. It appears you're denying the risen Christ? Matthew 26:32, Mark 14:28,

    Luke 24:6, Luke 24:34, Matthew 28:6, 1 Corinthians 15:20, Mark 16:6, John 21:14, Romans 8:34, Matthew 28:7
  • Eli on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    he asked Where

    Christ's body in the grave is in Jerusalem..He is talking about Armageddon
  • Leroy Rodriguez on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    this is the word stay true and always be ready
  • Mishael - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Wesley's Notes for Acts 9:5

    To kick against the goads - is a Syriac proverb, expressing an attempt that brings nothing but pain.

    People's Bible Notes for Acts 9:5

    Acts 9:5 Who art thou, Lord? Sure that it was a supernatural communication, though he might possibly suspect its source, he did not yet know that it came from Christ. Perhaps at times he had had misgivings that he might be wrong, but he was sincere. I am Jesus. It is not said, "the Christ", but JESUS, the crucified one against whom Saul was raging. Had the answer been "the Christ", or the Son of God, Saul might still have doubted whether this was Jesus. [It is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks. Omitted here by the Revised Version, but found in Acts 26:14. The idea is that he is injuring himself, like the ox that kicks back on the goads used to urge him forward.

    Acts 9:5

    And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks (goads).

    Acts 22:8

    And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

    Acts 26:15

    And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.

    Mishael: another thing is this= Jesus always says Follow Me. He says today is the day of salvation. He's here today!

    No one else is coming. If you hear his call today, follow Him.

    There is a Link on the red page, Become A Christian. It's a lot to read, but I think it will answer your question. Come back, if it doesn't, ok?
  • Richard GARDNER - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Jesus, comes back only one's so the one that comes before him saying I am jesus cometh with me he is the false one, so open your eyes all will be in spirit when , Crist comes back so how can be lifted behind?
  • Richard GARDNER - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    I think it means to all that belief in is will, with crist as ther, Savoy you know your going to de saved. So the ones that do not open their eye, and the ones that see but turn their backs to him will be, left out of God's glories
  • One Taken__One Left Behind - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    No. He's talking about the Caught Up In The Clouds (rapture of the church).

    Some have received Jesus as Lord and Savior; and others neglect "so great a salvation".

    Some are ready to go, and others delay to make that eternal decision.

    We must understand what Jesus is showing us in John 3 (for starters). It can't be clearer.

    Apostle Paul met Jesus on the road to Damascus to kill more Christians. (Book of Acts) One moment he's a killer of Jews; the next moment he's born again. In his temporary blindness he is confronted by his own deeds and the reality of the Risen Savior, and his own desperate need to be saved.

    Jesus said to all of us, Blessed are those who have not seen (Me), and have Believed.

    Belief through the beauty of Faith is of great value.

    Our human hearts are a Throne. Either we are sitting on it, or we decide to put Jesus on it.

    We all have the ability to shove Jesus aside (to do a little more sinning).

    Believe me, you will greatly miss knowing that Jesus is on that throne. You feel the emptiness in your soul.

    We can change our minds and repent. Open our hearts to Jesus.

    In my experience with the "on and off" period of being a new believer, you know when Jesus is on that heart throne. You feel His Presence and you hear his Voice. It is gentle. His voice is still and small; but powerful.

    I still do lay my hand over my heart to feel His power and His strong love.

    Does anybody else do this? I think I'm weird sometimes, but I cannot deny His Presence in my life. I hope for everyone to experience this.
  • The judge then, and the one left behind going to glory? Thank you on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    In Matthew when it indicates that too she'll be working in the field in one taken and one left behind, does that mean that the one that's taken is going to The judge then, and the one left behind going to glory? Thank you


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