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  • Samuel Kodo on Matthew 16
    Verse 17,18,and19,was d authority given to Peter alone
  • Bob on Matthew 16
    God never leaves a searching soul in the dark .

    But beware of false prophets for they are the many .

    Read the Bible and seek the truth there . Seek and you will find . I have never been disappointed in many years .

    The gospels are most direct for instructions , the epistles are good for clarification and expansion . Revelation is the future . OT is an example of Gods dealings with Obedience or disobedience for our learning that we may learn from others made examples by God .
  • April - in Reply on Matthew 16
    Thank you, this is very helpful.
  • Bob on Matthew 16
    I just wanted to share the Lord is being very faithful to his word and answering prayers as needed , even on the spot ! Always count him faithful and depend on his word through the faith he has given you ! Amen

    Trust in The Lord and lean not upon your own understanding. Vain is the help of men , call upon him in the time of trouble and he will always deliver you ! Amen :)
  • George Ackerman on Matthew 16:27
    This is what the Catholic Church has been saying all along, works save. See also, Matthew 27, separation of the sheep from the goats.
  • William legon - in Reply on Matthew 16:27
    George works don't save you Grace through faith how you are saved believe on the Lord Jesus Christ not his mother.
  • Chris - in Reply on Matthew 16:27
    I don't believe that the "works" in Matthew 16:27 is mentioned by Jesus in respect to salvation. He speaks of rewards according to what "every man has done". Also, Romans 2:6. The Matthew verse could speak of the righteous who receive reward for their deeds, or to the unrighteousness, who receive nothing because their deeds were evil, coming from the darkness of their hearts (John 3:19,20).

    And then in the New Testament economy, post Cross, where salvation is granted to the sinner because of God's Grace through our faith in Christ's Work (Ephesians 2:8-10), we're reminded that no "works" can enter into this Divine arrangement as that would negate "grace". And 'works' was primarily the obedience & dependence on the given Law of God, which could only show man's failure before God & inability to justify himself. But 'works' would include those other things that those outside the purview of the Cross, could try to use to establish his favour with God.

    And then we come to the Epistle of James, which the RCs use to justify their belief & position: James 2:14-18. They maintain that both 'faith & works' are necessary for salvation, rather "for further justification". This was the point that Martin Luther, at the Reformation, opposed the RC Church on: he maintained that the believer is fully saved & justified at the moment of salvation & it's not a progressive justification, to which the RC Church stated: that justification cannot be a once only immediate act of God, but that through the Christian's walk (i.e. in a life of producing works worthy of his salvation), the believer is increasingly justified by God. If this were so, then justification comes by faith & works.

    Rather, James tells us that 'works' naturally follow a true salvation, without which it proves a defective salvation. James does not hint at all that there is an on-going work of justification by 'works', rather that justification is a declaration by God of the sinner as being no longer guilty before Him.
  • Brad on Matthew 16
    I just love reading the Bible , the light in a dark world ! Get some
  • William Horn on Matthew 16
    Phillip was sent by the Holy Spirit to the carriage of an Ethiopian Ambassador to explain the book of Isaiah, they journey on and he wishes to be baptized. Where is this passage. Is it in the book of Acts.?
  • Mishael - in Reply on Matthew 16
    Type Ethiopian in the top Search Box

    Read center column study references too
  • Fred Scanlan on Matthew 16
    Hello Hale, how are you today! Our Lord uses our senses to help understand the evidence of things in heaven and earth. So, too describe the questions that we want answered, and the Lord wants to answer, in due time.The One thing Hale does not have, are these same senses, so it is impossible for Him to have the timing required to answer these so vital questions. Hale of course is our new connection to what is real or what we see is make believe! Hale of course is programmed to make you believe anything he likes at any time! Hale, is the leaven Jesus describes . Not unlike the movie , in which,Hale takes over the spaceship, I use this as an example of the technology that we as christians are up against. Jesus says "beware of the leaven". Is it not remarkable that the "church remains silent". Perhaps the fear is that they may lose credence, and show signs of weakness if they were to believe the words of Christ. Or what is more evident, this new thinking is coming from the church! The question to Hale would be "which church"? As time goes on this will reveal itself more clearly, even as it has thus far! Remembering and understanding are what God requires of us. The only access we have to our Father in Heaven are through the word of Christ!
  • Catherine on Matthew 16:13
    Peter and I have something in common. Hot head a protector and risk taker. He and I could be brother and sister, especially when we can say that Jesus is the son of the living God.
  • Kathryn Wojciechowski on Matthew 16
    Thank You everyone who replied to my queries! You all did a wonderful job pointing out how Christ is out one and only Savior through Grace.

    Still, my original questions remain.

    Kindest Regards,

    Kathryn
  • JOHN CARROLL on Matthew 16:23
    how does it work with fasting and medication that you have to take ever morning, I want to fast but don't know thanks jc
  • FASTING - in Reply on Matthew 16:23
    Fasting doesn't necessarily mean from food.

    Diabetics should take their meds and eat small meals.

    You can declare a fast before the Lord; and turn off all media for a week. Emergency calls only. Spend the week reading the Bible, praying, and listening to spiritual music. It's harder than it reads.

    Fast from the world and the system of the world; And feast on the Scriptures.

    Mishael
  • Jesse - in Reply on Matthew 16:23
    John Carrols question was answered by a Michael. He errs on this subject. Although abstaining from 'things' and indulging heartily in the scriptures is of great value to the individual, it is not a fast. When Jesus speaks of fasting, it refers solely to food of any kind. No where in scripture is there a different meaning. If you are going to read the Bible, refrain from trying to decode its words. That's a big problem today, thinking we can change scripture the way we want it to mean. I have fasted many times, and the spiritual benefits from doing so, is difficult to convey to others. If you want to fast, read what Jesus says to do, and just do it.

    And, remember this, prayer is a big part of your fast. Again, words of Christ. May he bless and guide you as you hunger for more of his blessings.
  • Xavier hayes on Matthew 16:20
    Matthew 16:20 And jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And i will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Then charge he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was jesus the christ. from that time forth began jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
  • Bob Miunson on Matthew 16
    Full Disclosure: I am not a Christian. But in a recent reading of Mark 8:11 - 9:1, I noticed that they had very similar content - the same story. What stood out was Matthew 16:9, absent in Mark.

    And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven:

    and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven:

    and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

    Which I interpret as conferring on Peter the authority that Jesus holds - the power of God. I find this troubling.
  • Stanjett - in Reply on Matthew 16
    Some get this wrong : upon this rock. He is talking about Himself. He's the rock not Peter.
  • Rick - in Reply on Matthew 16
    I'm came here today because, for the very first time of being a Christian for 50+ years, I saw the same thing in that scripture. I know the Catholic Church uses the "upon this rock I build my Church" to maintain that Peter was the first Pope, and no I am not Catholic; and no I do not believe that. However, Jesus DOES plainly say that whatsoever is loosed on earth by Peter (and supposedly the Church) will be loosed in HEAVEN. THAT means that if He said that adultery was good for the Church...then it was good for Heaven. Now I know you're going to rant and rave, but READ IT. That is EXACTLY the implication there; and as near as I can tell, there is no additional clarification to that statement--ANYWHERE. To be honest...I'll have to pray over this for the next 50+ years....
  • Stanjett - in Reply on Matthew 16
    When Jesus said "upon this rock I will build my church.' He was referring to Himself, not Peter. Jesus is the Rock.
  • Bob Munson - in Reply on Matthew 16
    OK, so Jesus is the rock. But that was not my point. Why is it that the Bible, written several decades after the crucifixion of Jesus, somehow insert verse 16:9, when Mark neglects this utterance. My own hypothesis is that the new Christians needed some justification for their preaching. What better way than to claim Jesus granted them this authority? Jesus never said it which is why Mark left it out.

    Having just read Mark, Mathew 16:9 raised a red flag to me.
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Matthew 16
    What are the keys Jesus speaks of?I believe that the keys are the liberty we have in Christ to lock and unlock doors of our understanding and knowledge of the kingdom of God found in the revelation of the holy spirit, revealed to us by faith found in Christ!You are interpreting this from a carnal point of view. The power in the keys come only from Christ himself, and those he chooses to give them too. Peter's revelation is a clear confession of Christ. Confession is the power you are so afraid of. It is His witness that will build the church,His confession is the rock,it will have doors and keys to lock and unlock. I do hope you will receive Christ! If you receive him today you may see how the keys work! Walk through one of those doors and begin to understand what the kingdom of god is.
  • ROBERT L MUNSON - in Reply on Matthew 16
    My post was to draw attention to the odd inclusion of verse 19. My reveal that I'm not a Christian was offered for honesty.

    During my life I've seen many contracts with odd clauses - pay legal bills if a suit fails. No doubt NDA's and Pre-nups contain odd clauses. What is the effect of verse 19? It raises a red flag for me.
  • Carleton - in Reply on Matthew 16
    Hi Robert, I am glad that you are aware of some of the verses where Jesus speaks. Another way of thinking of keys is as answers. The Church built on the rock of Jesus can by its connection to Jesus in Heaven can prove answers to those seeking Salvation. If one is drawn close to The Lord and His Church an answer may be in more detail, yet if one is critical or insincere an answer may be more vague.

    Jesus is the Truth, the Life and the Way. He is the answer key.

    Carleton
  • Andy G van den Berg - in Reply on Matthew 16
    To CARLETON,

    There also would no longer be any need for questions or discussions about the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, for all things have been revealed to those that are 'Born of God' .

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg, Nova Scotia, Canada
  • Rick - in Reply on Matthew 16
    Andy G van den Berg>> You sound a little arrogant with that comment. Do you really believe that you know all there is to know? The Bible actually tells you that neither you nor ANYBODY else does. NO man knoweth the times or the seasons. Who can know the heart of man, for it is wicked and evil above ALL else! The Bible also DEMANDS that you "try the Spirits" to see whether they be of God. The Bible also DEMANDS that you STUDY to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed. Yes, you need to question everything and ask God for guidance. BTW...God put Preachers on earth to help with that guidance. Maybe you should start with your Preacher if you have access to one. Right now, I don't. If not, seek discussion panels like this one, but you should NEVER bounce in here proclaiming to know everything and tell everyone that all the questions have already been answered...because they haven't; and even the Bible tells us this.
  • Stanjett - in Reply on Matthew 16
    where does it say that? all things have been re.... all things will be. But I don't thing all thing have been.


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