Matthew Chapter 13 Discussion



 
  • BSP on Matthew 13
    Verse 16-The disciples truly understood what they were hearing and they applied what they heard. We must do the same.
  • Eddie hines on Matthew 13:8
    Who are the 24 Elders ? And is there a spiritual dreaming of death ?
  • Braden witte on Matthew 13:41
    How do I get closer to God? I know the best way to get closer to him is reading his word. But I never know where to start or what book to read, and most of the time just end up confused. Does anyone have any good references, I'm sixteen so what books of the Bible do you think would best fit me. I also want to learn more about the second coming of Jesus Christ, but I've read all I could find so far. I would like to ask for advice for the best way to serve god in a family that doesn't put God first. And thank you for all your help everyone, not one of my questions about Jesus and how to serve and honor him Have been unanswered or unhelpful. So thank you all
  • Chris - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    That's a great request that you've put forward Braden. It's one that demonstrates a real hunger for the Lord & for more knowledge of Him from His Word. You're correct, one of the best ways of knowing the Lord & drawing closer to Him is from learning from His Word, communing with Him in your heart about what you read & giving Him the praise due to Him for the wonderful God that He is to you. Another important aspect about desiring greater communion with Him, is to allow Him (by His Spirit) to get 'more' of you. So often many Christians genuinely hunger more of the Lord's things but aren't prepared to let go of things in their own lives that come in the way of a deeper relationship with the Lord. Only you can do a heart & life search & see if there's anything there that would displease God.

    Your Christian life with all its graces is always the best testimony one can have in front of family & close friends. When they observe your behaviour, your responses to difficult situations or people, your quiet confidence in the provision of your needs & the hope you have of everlasting life, often we say that it's those 'unspoken words' that can have the biggest impact. If you've already shared the Gospel with them, it's very likely that they'll stop listening to anymore words; you need to ask God that their ears & hearts will be opened & that they will enquire to hear from you. Nagging someone to listen to you isn't the best option in any family situation.

    If you've done some Bible reading, then you'll know what God is saying in those many Bible Books & letters. All of Scripture needs to be read as all of it is profitable to your soul & for knowledge. Since I don't know how much knowledge of the Bible you have or where you are in your Christian life, it's difficult to suggest a Bible book to start with. The Gospels are always a good starting point to learn of Jesus Christ & His Love for you.

    Sites such as Openbible will give you isolated verses on all Bible topics. GBU
  • Jeff Gibson - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Braden

    The best advice I can give to you is first and foremost, KEEP reading your Bible daily, read it slowly and purposefully. I trust no other Bible than The King James, I recommend getting a good study Bible, I use The Hebrew-Greek Key Word Study Bible: KJV Edition it is an excellent Bible for studding. I study under an excellent Bible teacher named David Hocking; davidhocking.org. If you do a search on youtube for him you will find a great amount of videos of him teaching The Bible. A young man as yourself should start reading in Proverbs in the old testament, I only wish I had at your age. Then I would start in The Book of John.

    Remember temptation is sever, Fight It At All Cost!

    GOD Bless You and Keep The Faith

    Jeff
  • Mild Bill on Matthew 13:41
    Alex, you err, "as all men will give birth to Christ", not ALL," Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matthew 7:21,22,23

    This is a detail of err in your teaching, which is heretical in total.
  • Alex - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Thank you for reading me BILL but thats y they call Jesus The 2 nd ADAM. What he did at Calvary is gonna apply the blood to everyman no exceptions .It wd make God a hypocrite if he applied the stain and the spot of adam to everyman no exceptions and not apply the blood of Christ to everyman just as the curse of adam was applied to everyman no exceptions the blessings and the blood of Christ have to be applied to everyman in the end . We are all gonna have to go thru the lake of fire simply b/c of our Adamic nature WHICH IS HIS BAPTISM OF FIRE. WHOM THE LORD LOVETH HE CHASENS WHICH IS HIS BAPTISM OF FIRE AND THE H.G. as OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE, OUR OLD ADAMIC NATURE IS GONA BE CONSUMED BY THE FIRE OF GOD . Jeremiah saw ALL men in travail and birth pains meaning in the end everybody is gonna be bornagain NO EXCEPTIONS, Even the isles of the seas are gonna be converted unto me in the end. Not one single person cd escape the curse of Adam not one thus in the end not one single person will be able to escape the blood and the blessings of Christ not one. If i belifted up i will draw ALL MEN unto me and God is no respector of persons. Hell ( the lake of fire ) is just his baptism of fire that we all need. Jesus said that every SINNER will have their part in the lake of fire, thats ALL OF US SINNERS. NONE RIGHTEOUS NO NOT ONE.As we all carry the stain and the spot of Adam .Thus the blood and the blessings of Christ that 2 nd Adam will be applied to everyman no exceptions he will stain ALL of his raiment which is humanity i was naked and you clothed me. God so loved the world etc . IF Jesus said ye must be bornagain he is gonna see to it that we are all bornagain in the END. IMO thats y the prophets saw the whole world in travail and birth pains its simply the heavenly birth.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    "What he did at Calvary is gonna apply the blood to everyman no exceptions ." So you believe this includes the rich man in hell who wanted water from Lazarus?

    To whom will Jesus say, "I never knew you." Matthew 7:23

    People weeping and gnashing of teeth, where the worm dieth not and the fire never quenched.Mark 9:42

    You are heretical in what you are saying, and it appears you are knowingly doing this. I doubt I am the first person to have told you of your error.
  • Alex - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Bill thank you for reading me but its you that do greatly err. you are not understanding the new covenant which is all inclusive, if i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me. many will have to go and do their 1st works again .we all have to go thru that lake of fire as we all are sinners and have come short of the glory of god . bill we all need that lake of fire which is baptism of the h.g. and fire as jesus said every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire.bill we are all sinners, that lake of fire is what we need. bill if the stain and the spot of adam was applied to everyman no exceptions then the blood of christ will be applied to every man no exceptions, who shall abide the day of his coming who shall stand when he appears for he shall be as a refiners fire and fullers soap we all need that lake of fire which is his baptism of fire and the h.g. no exceptions in adam we all die but in christ we will all live jesus died for everybody, his arm is not to short that he cannot reach everyman no matter how sinful. our old adamic nature answers to the red heifer that is gonna be burnt to ashes but what christ did at calvary is gonna save all of us. ok later. gbu
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Alex, you are graced with understanding that not everyone yet has been given eyes to see and ears to hear.

    Ezekiel 5:1-4 And thou, son of man (Jesus), take thee a barber's razor, and CAUSE (all is of God) it to pass upon thine head and upon thy beard: then take thee three balances to weigh, and divide the hair,

    (2) Thou shall burn with fire (for our God is a consuming fire) a THIRD part in the midst or the city (spiritual Jerusalem), when the days of the siege are fulfilled (they were fulfilled at pentecost): and thou shall take a third part, and smite them with a knife: and a third part thou shall scatter to the wind; and I will draw out a sword after them.

    (3) Thou shall also take thereof a FEW (find the way) in number, and bind them ( the FEW) in thy skirts.

    (4) then take of them (the FEW) again, and cast them into the mist of the (lake of) fire, and burn them (the FEW) in the fire (our God is a consuming fire); for thereof (the FEW) shall a fire come into the house of Israel.

    Obadiah 21 And saviours (judges) shall come upon mount Zion to judge the mount Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.

    Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part through the (lake of ) fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they will say, The Lord is my God.

    Revelation 9:18 By these three was the THIRD part of men killed, by the fire, and by smoke, and by brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

    Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. this the FIRST RESURRECTION.

    GBU
  • I7sharp - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    "Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part ..."

    Earl, how can you justify "adding" the part "(the Holy Ghost)" in the above?
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    17sharp, may the Spirit grace you with understanding, the reason I can justify adding the Holy Ghost in Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part through the fire is because:

    II Peter 1:21 For the prophecy (like the words in Zachariah) came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. It wasn't Zachariah that was going to bring them (creation) through the fire; but the Holy Ghost.

    Revelation 19:10 ........worship God: for the testimony (words) of Jesus is the (holy) spirit of prophecy.

    I Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ (Holy Ghost) which was in them (prophets) did signify, when it (Holy Ghost) testified beforehand the suffering of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

    II Samuel 23: 1-2 Now these be the last words of David, David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed (by the Holy Ghost) of God of Judah, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said,

    (2) The spirit of the Lord (Holy Ghost) spake by me, and his (Holy Ghost) words were in my tongue.

    When the Spirit causes you to understand that the words in the bible are the words of Spirit and not of man then the Spirit will start bringing you into spiritual understanding and start washing away worldly wisdom, which is foolishness to God.

    May the Holy Ghost you with his wisdom.
  • Alex - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Hiya earl bowman thanks for your spritual insight into the working of the h.g. 2 nd cor. 3 : 6 kjv comes to mind who has made us able ministers of the new testament not of the letter that killeth but of the spirit the h.g. that gives life as even our lord said my words are spirit and life which is the h.g. a living spritual being .
  • Thomas - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Alex.....Liars, cheats, thieves, homosexuals--shall be cast into the lake of fire, burn in hell for eternity.
  • Jessie D on Matthew 13:41
    13:41 what kingdom is Jesus talking about?
  • Chris - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Jesus gave a series of parables & if we take it up from verse 36, when the disciples came to Him to enquire about the sower who sowed good seed & the tares came up with them.

    The crop field is the World; the Sower is Jesus; the good seed are the children of the Kingdom; the tares are the followers of Satan; & God's angels sort the good from the bad.

    So we see here that Jesus is speaking of those who are or will be in His Kingdom (one the many facets of it). Jesus is seeing His Church, into which the good seed was sown & which brought forth fruit unto Him. Yet, the enemy has also been busy, sowing his tares amongst the good seed. If the Church can easily see them, knowing them by their fruit & behaviour, then Church discipline is in order. Sometimes though, the tares remain hidden & dormant, what we can't see but do not escape the Eyes of God. At the harvest-time, all the Church will experience 'reaping', but God will separate the good seed that was sown from the bad seed sown by the enemy.

    And the Church from its earliest days, suffered the intrusion of Satan by those claiming to have God's Word to impart, but gave out teaching foreign to those from Christ & His apostles, & tried to lead innocent believing souls away from Christ. And this wicked work still goes on in the Church today, so the warning given by the Lord. So we are the Kingdom of God on Earth for now as His Spirit indwells His Children - but in the Millenium, Christ will reign from Jerusalem ruling from His Kingdom & we will be there as well, so that His Kingdom will be realized.
  • Jessie D - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    Thank You :)
  • Dinesh - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    About Jeshurun
  • Chris - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    If you're enquiring about the meaning or use of this word, Jeshurun, then I share the following:

    Jeshurun means 'upright one or blessed one'. It was a term of endearment applied to Jacob (Israel) as God's beloved, His special people. We see the word appearing in Isaiah 44:1,2; Deuteronomy 32:15, 33:5, 33:26,27.

    Even though Israel often failed the God Who loved them dearly & provided for them, God still waited for them to return to Him & love Him instead of idols. God still through all this spiritual adultery, called them "Jeshurun".
  • Rob on Matthew 13
    Matthew 13

    The parable of the sower is something every truth seek should put a lot of study into .

    4 types of ground that the seed or word of God is planted in .

    A few things I pondered over the years about this is .

    The condition of the heart effects the soil . Proverbs says out of the heart are the issues of life and to watch over our heart . God looks upon are hearts , we believe with the heart , etc

    The 4th that was good ground had good soil or a good heart , it's the only one of the 4 that understood.

    The other 3 did not understand fully , they varied in understanding to their demise .

    Take heed how you hear the word of God .
  • Rob - in Reply on Matthew 13
    These 4 different soil conditions where in response to the Pure word of God , not teachings found elsewhere . So we are talking about reading or hearing the scriptures. That's the safest form of the word . Others can speak as God gives them ability as well , but the scriptures are the best always .

    The 1st person that the seed fell on the way side was open to interpretations and it never sunk in and they lost everything. The devil has many answers that seem convincing to a person of little knowledge of truth . He takes full advantage of their ignorance.
  • Patty tozi on Matthew 13:39
    Everything is still this morning. Darkness all around. I have my coffee l look around. A homeless in front --no shirt not much. My wallet shows 1.00 only. l watch before l go in Chevron. Coffee l want. I give him my dollar. He blessed me when l did. He was a Christian-- He never forgets.. I got him a roll cause all l had was my card. I watch others especially around Starbucks. Well to do....but no heart for helping others. Shame...God is close to coming. What will you say? Watching others am seeing how cold this world has became. Hearts waxing colder and colder. What can l say. The world does not matter to me now. Always looked for others with kindness in their heart. Years past l never saw many stop. Now in our last days only gotten worse. Oh what will Jesus say? He suffered so for our Sins. Why should He suffer more. I sit here in quietness wondering when some Love will show. Maybe this world won't be so slow.
  • Malcolm Watson on Matthew 13:39
    I think this entity is Jesus or the Holy Spirit!!
  • P T Jones on Matthew 13
    Matthew 13:8 - But other fell into good ground and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. Why this fruit brought forth stated in descending order. To me it is effectiveness gospel in times. At the time of our Lord gospel was widely accepted. Then in tribulations it becomes sixtyfold and at present it is only thirtyfold only. The decrease in faith gradually evolved in church. Today preachers are enthusiastic, yet their fruitfullness is very low.Our Lord even asked in Luke 18:8- Nevertheless when the son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?. We are now sure that our Lord coming very soon. And also remember that "So shall my word goeth forth out of my mouth : it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I send it. Isaiah 55:11.In the present world only thirty percent believes in our Lord Jesus Christ.
  • Federico cassilas jounier mendoza on Matthew 13:39
    well i got a queston or two but im going to tell you something you can belive it or not if you like i been having strange dreams about other places and places that i dont know if they exsist but when i dream about it feels like if im awake and i cant get out of it intell it lets me im geting useto it but some are scary and some are unbelevable and thats one thing and the other thing is some of the dreams arent about that it about my futer i think didint want to beleve it but when i wake up i see everything happen like it happen in my dream i even say some stuff thats going to happen and my family gets freaked out and last thing i also have like someone in my head that talks to me like a regler person and i talked back and it talks back it was creepy at first but i got useto it. thankyou for hearing me.(-:
  • Michael - in Reply on Matthew 13:39
    Federico, My opinion: I feel for you, my friend. This could be mental or spiritual. Are you a Christian? Did you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior of your life? Are you living by grace through the Holy Spirit like Acts 2? Are you truly living as a servant of Jesus Christ as the LORD of your life? That means not holding on to sin especially sin of the past... but asking for forgiveness daily (repentance..."Confess your sins and He is just and faithful (righteous) to forgive you your sins and to cleanse you from all unrighteousness". If so and even if not so, if it is spiritual or mental, I believe that you should go to a Spirit-Filled Christian Minister (Counselor) who can help you in Deliverance. A prayer of Deliverance can set you free...Deliverance has helped many individuals; especially new Christians who came out of the world and who are now living for Jesus Christ. I, myself had gone through a deliverance prayer with a Minister when I first came out of the world. Not spoke about much nowadays; but it could be an answer to your problem.. God loves you and wants to care for you! He gives us Counselors so we can be helped. All of us...
  • Johnson on Matthew 13:25
    Matt 13v.25. While men slept the enemy came and sowed tares. Kindly explain the meaning of this verse and leasons for the christian of today.
  • Rose on Matthew 13:22
    As someone who suffers from Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Social Anxiety and for 5 years suffered from Agoraphobia, I want to say that anyone, like Richard who may suffer from these disorders, are NOT what Jesus was referring to in the parable of the 4 seeds.

    Someone with anxiety disorder does not lack faith, but is entirely reliant on God even to do small things, that other people find insignificant, ie, answering the phone. Life becomes a cross to carry, that is unique, but is entirely centered on God, and is a sacrifice that is able to be offered to God.

    Richard you did not choose your anxiety, but God will help you through it.

    The anxiety Jesus was referring to, was anxiety about worldly things, ie what will I wear, eat, drink, how much money can I make, I need friends in high places, etc. These are necessities, and God promises to provide these things, so we do not need to worry about it.

    Anxiety disorders are mental illnesses that can be totally unrelated to things of this world. And just because someone is not healed or cured, doesnt show a lack of faith. Otherwise would be say all Christian's who died from cancer lacked faith? Or what about those with type 1 diabetes, should we tell them to stop taking insulin, and if they dont then they lack faith?

    2 Corinthians 12:8-10

    "Three times I appealed to the Lord about this, that it would leave me, but he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for power is made perfect in weakness." So, I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me. Therefore I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities for the sake of Christ; for whenever I am weak, then I am strong."
  • Alex on Matthew 13
    This parable of th sower and his seed is about a heavenly seed that is gonna form Christ in us,ya gotta realize that th sower is the bridegroom, he is gonna sow a Godly seed in US a kingdom seed, he said that good seed is the WORD of the kingdom,He wants to multiply himself in humanity. The child is the H.G. as that which is Born of the spirit is SPIRIT.Whosoever receives one such child in my name receives me thats y he refers to the H.G.. as the Promise,simply b/c the H.G is the multiplication of Christ in US via his seed th WORD.And the H.G IS GOD in us Immanuel God with US.When Isaiah saw the kingdom coming he says unto US A CHILD IS BORN.Jesus says unless ya receive the Kingdom as a lil child impling a birth of Christ in US,Thus the Babes and suckling are Spirits the H.G PLURAL that will result from his seed the WORD,BEING BORNAGAIN OF AN INCORRUPTIBLE SEED EVEN BY THE words OF God.Thats y he always refers to himself as tHE SON OF MAN,Mankind needs to birth Christ in his life.gbu
  • John Feagans on Matthew 13:34
    When Jesus spoke to the multitude did some of them walk away except his deciples


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