Matthew Chapter 12 Discussion



 
  • Luke - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Guy's, this is a tricky one, and cognate's are relevant when rightly dividing the word of truth, 2 Timothy 2:15,

    One must be aware of what happens in the end times, and use of different phrases to describe or indentify said events such as "The Hour of Temptation" (The Great Tribulation) often times referred to as "in that hour" or "the same hour",, God's not going to allow unforgiveness to be easy,,,

    Read Luke 12:8-12 this only takes place during a certain time by certain chosen people.

    Here in v10 the use of cognate am referring to; And whosoever shall speak a word against/TO the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against/TO THE Holy Spirit it shall not be forgiven.

    12 For THE Holy Spirit will teach you in the (same hour) what ye should say."

    This only happens during the HOUR of Temptation, (The Great Tribulation) by certain chosen people being delivered up unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and authorities.
  • RevJoe - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Thats absolutely true.... we ought to watch our utterances carefully in our walk with Christ. He's our ''ROLE MODEL'' in life! God bless u soo much.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Brian, there is a link on the entrance page BECOMES A BELIEVER. It is very helpful to read through that. To understand who the Holy Spirit is.

    He is God, and He is the Spirit of Christ. When you receive Jesus as Savior, Jesus baptized you with The Holy Spirit. If you want to be Water Baptized that's ok too.

    The main thing is to know how to begin your relationship with the Holy Spirit. He's in your heart and He's in your mind. He explains and teaches the Bible to you.

    I had to have a couple of books to help me after I was saved: angels, by Charles Capps. All I'll add is I learned that we don't order angels to get things for us. We ask our Father in heaven if we can have an angel to help us for a time.

    You can ask for favor with Doctors, maybe Job re-training at the employment bureau in your city. Get there early.

    I've had many jobs in my life. I loved each one. I've moved 22 times and it meant being flexible and willing to learn new duties. Being friendly. Sit down at the lunch table with other workers and let them get to know about you. Jesus talked, and sometimes listened to what others thought interesting.

    There is nothing wrong with trying a different doctor. See if you can go see a Endocrinologist on your health care plan. They specialize in getting your sugar in control.

    You kinda have to allow the Holy Spirit to lead you. Turn off the tv, read the New Testament and then listen for the Holy Spirits still small voice. Put away your video games :). You're going to fall in love with the Holy Spirit. I did. He was the first person who loved ME, and let me love Him. It's spirit. Grow your love on Ecclesiastes 2:16, 6:3, 7:10. He is God. You can love Him as strong as you choose. He will love you too. There is no gender in this love. It is spirit to spirit.

    Keep coming back here ok? You're my brother. I'm yours too. There's alot on nice folks in here. Ok. I'll be lookin for you. Mishael
  • Chris - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Hi Joel. In Mark 3:28-30, we read, "Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit."

    To blaspheme in its primary meaning, is to speak evil or irreverently about God. But in this passage in Mark, the Scribes attributed the Work of Jesus to being the work of Satan; that Jesus was casting out devils by Satan's power (which of course, doesn't make sense). So, Jesus brings out this Truth against them, that when God does a Work by His Spirit and someone says that it is a work of the Devil, then that person blasphemes or insults God's Holiness & Power - a grievous sin that cannot find forgiveness. That is why I am always careful to hold my thoughts & tongue if I am not able to discern by what spirit a particular work is being done or a particular manifestation is given. The end result of that work or manifestation must clearly be evil or against God's Word before anyone can give their judgement against it.
  • GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Instead of saying someone was healed by the power of God,

    they would say they were healed by the power of satan or voodoo, or "they" were never sick at all.

    The Holy Spirit is here now, and heals those who humble themselves and ask. I've been healed numerous times. Ask anyone in here if they've been healed or blessed.

    It's called, testimony of what God has done for you.

    Romans 1:20

    Streetpreacher
  • SANDRA D CHILDERS - in Reply on Matthew 12
    To falsely came to be his son or daughter. He dwells in his sons and daughters.
  • Joel on Matthew 12
    what does it mean exactly to blaspheme the Holy Spirit.?
  • Roy - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Thank you

    Roy
  • Dav47 - in Reply on Matthew 12
    When the title specifically speaks of CHRIST it will always have the article "the" in the phrase. When used of human being as in Ezekiel it never has the article (Ez. 2:1, Ps. 8:4)
  • Alex N - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Roy i don't wanna sound repititious about this Son of MAN...But we see the Woman in Rev. 12 as a beautiful picture of the world giving birth to a baby Christ which is the H.G. The Children of Promise...The Son of Mankind ..The woman is the world simply b/c Jesus said the field is the world where that good seed will be sown...The woman is mankind and her child is the result of the Sower and his seed the contents of the book that has just been opened....The words of life...The Woman is telling us that the world is gona have a baby Christ which is the H.G. that is an Israel of God...Which is the multiplication of God in us humanity the Children of PROMISE is The H.G. Spirits as God is Spirit...The Woman is us sinners THE WORLD that needs a physician....Thus a baby Christ the H.G. The Son of MAN...Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in.

    .....Thats y the NEW BIRTH is so important we are gonna birth a Baby Christ which is the H.G. that Child of PROMISE....We the whole world is gona be his Mother, Jesus asked who is my Mother ? Then he said them that hear my words ( his good seeds ) and keeps them intiating a birth of Christ in us humanity....Them that hear the words the contents of that book and keeps them. He wants everybody to be his mother thus he will be everybodies SON,THE SON OF MAN...MANKIND's fruit unto God....In Adam we all die but in Christ we will all live....Simply b/c of what he did at Calvary..The Blood
  • Alex N - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Roy every time Jesus called himself the Son of man he was trying to tell them they were gonna have a baby Christ which is the H.G. That Child of a Promise...The multiplication of very God in humanity....She brought forth a man child that is gonna rule ALL NATIONS...27 TIMES in the O.T. the prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains...The Child is the H.G. That Child of Promise...An Israel of God...The 3 rd person the H.G is the Israel of God...a heavenly Jacob...mankinds fruit unto God the Son of man.

    .....Thats y the sower will go forth to sow his seed in our hearts that we might birth a baby Christ which is the H.G....Multiplication of his seed was the great Promise....And thats y he always refered to himself as the SON OF MAN.

    .....The Wheat is a baby Christ simply b/c the sower of that good seed is the bridegroom....Thus he is truly the SON OF MAN...Simply b/c he said whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receives me...see the son of man is not really Jesus but the H.G. his offspring.....our fruit unto God.
  • Alex N - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Every time Jesus refered to himself as the Son of man he was trying to tell us something in the Spirit....88 times Jesus refered to himself as the son of man which is indicative of that New COVENANT...When All MEN will birth a Baby Christ which is the result of the Sower and his seed. The contents of the book Thus the wheat he sires in our hearts is a baby Christ which is the H.G. that..CHILD OF PROMISE A KINGDOM CHILD....Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains...The Child is the H.G. that Child of Promise... Romans 7 : 4 Paul tells us we must be married to Christ and bring forth fruit unto God which is the H.G. a kingdom Child

    .....When we are bornagain we birth a baby Christ which is the H.G. And thats y he always refers to himself as the Son of man...Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth me thus he was truly the Son of man...Mankinds fruit unto God.

    .....That great Promise was multiplication of Christ seed thus every man will bring forth fruit unto God according to his seed the WORD the contents of the book the New Covenant....Thats y the new birth is so important we are all gonna birth a BABY CHRIST....the H.G. Thus he is truly the son of man....Which answers to our new heart and new spirit.

    .....Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil CHILD you will in no wise enter there in....The Child is a baby Christ the H.G And thats what makes him the Son of man....mankinds fruit unto God via that good seed.

    .....Kings shall be your nursing fathers and Queens shall be your nursing mothers....Kings and Queens are just simbolic language for men and women that are gonna birth a baby Christ...That New Covenant which is the H.G. That Child of PROMISE...Thus he is truly the SON OF MAN...ok
  • Chris - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Hi Roy. Briefly, the Son of Man is a title used exclusively by Jesus - His disciples never addressed Him as such.

    Jesus used it to emphasize His humanity ( Matthew 8:20; Mark 8:31), though there were occasions where He used the title, Son of God ( John 3:18; John 5:25; John 9:35-37; John 10:36; etc).

    The title, Son of Man, also goes back to the Book of Daniel where the Son of Man would inherit the everlasting kingdom of God ( Daniel 7:13,14). It is a designation of the Messiah Who would inherit God's everlasting Kingdom.

    At His trial Jesus acknowledged that He was indeed the Son of Man - the one who would bring in God's everlasting kingdom ( Matthew 26:64,65). When the religious leaders heard this they accused Him of blasphemy - making Himself equal with God.

    The purpose of the title seems to be Jesus' Own emphasis on His Humanity. And through His Humanity, doing the Works of God as none other had done before & bringing the Words of God as they never heard before, the people would also see that this was no ordinary man (as was believed, the son of Joseph & Mary), but One of God, sent by God. Jesus' Life even till His Death proved to at least some folk that this Son of Man was indeed the Son of God: they needed to come to realize this fact by observation, not by His proclamation.
  • Streetpreacher - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Jesus is all God and all Human. He set aside his powers as the Son of God, to be born to Mary. In her Jesus was fully Human. He did not have Joseph's blood.

    He was called Immanuel: God with us.

    Jesus called himself, after he was anointed in Luke 4:18. Jesus said of himself, he was the Son of Man (human) .

    Use the Search Box on the red LINK PAGE. Put in SON OF MAN, and read those verses too.
  • Roy Morgan on Matthew 12
    Mathew 12 verse 8 - For Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

    Reference specifically the words "Son of man" with capital "S" in word Son. Will some please try to clarify the reference to "Son of man".

    Thank you

    Roy
  • QueenB on Matthew 12
    But here in this verse he does Recognize his Mother, Mary. He also ask John to care for His Mothet. John 19:26

    When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, "Woman, behold thy son!"
  • Jcbu undercover - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Mathew Henry 1710 explains this very well in his comments he say's if a person is saved,but does not hang on to his salvation with God the father Jesus the son and the Holy Spirit in prayer keeping the faith through prayer.Then more demons will come than before! A personal relationship with God through Jesus is what to seek to keep the demons away through the Holy Spirit.For we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities in high places.
  • Johnny Hickman on Matthew 12
    Matthew 12 verses 43 thru 45 what does these verses mean when Jesus was talking
  • Evelyn T Woodson on Matthew 12
    Anyone who live by the Spirit and cease from flesh have boundries established by the Holy Spirit and honor for God and reverence for the Exalted Christ Jesus. When Devil Woeshipers Witchies gang attacks and hit squads stalk a Christian, We are to demonstrate Gods Authority .Possed People have no interst in Love and make fun of it Manipulate loving peoples Sincarity , We must be sure to keep watch because the Devail is a Predator seeking to deour not establishing any loving relationships. Jesus told the Devail where to go he never barging with darkness and neither should we.
  • POWER OF GOD UNTO SALVATION - in Reply on Matthew 12:50
    For Nic

    [use this as a prayer. Read aloud to the room]

    " Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God"

    I am a blood bought child of God through Jesus Christ. I am the righteousness of God through the Cross of Calvary. Jesus paid for all of my sins; past present and future. My Life is HID in Jesus Christ. My name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Jesus is my Advocate! Case is dismissed for lack of evidence.

    All of you devils must leave NOW! Go into outer darkness and wander forever.

    Father, in Jesus name I ask you to send angels to prevent their return.

    I receive Jesus into my heart, soul and mind. Fill me with the Holy Spirit. Teach me about Jesus. I receive you now."

    Mishael: from this day forward you are free. Pray the prayer as often as you need too; Demons may "check in" for a while to see if you meant what you said? Just pray this prayer again, the assaults will Stop. Ok?

    **Copy paste this into notes or documents. God has his Hand on you. Receive His Peace through Jesus (say that). Keep coming back here and learn some scriptures :D

    Welcome, daughter of the Most High!

    A LOT of people in here care for you
  • GiGi again - in Reply on Matthew 12:50
    Good to hear from you,

    My son suffers from anxiety/depressive disorder and at times it is very concerning. He takes meds and sees a therapist, but as not returned to the Lord yet. I know that when e does return, his disorder will improve. God is at work in all of our lives 24/7 whether we are walking with Him or running away. He loves us and keeps seeking the lost to bring them to Him.

    I am glad that you have received the help you have from your therapist. I will pray for you to soon find a pastor and a church fellowship that will support you. I am glad you are o.k. I was concerned, knowing that sometimes people try to deal with difficulties on their own until they are very desperate and then they reach out, but, unfortunately, some people give up and end things. So, God bless you and keep you today and always.
  • Lex - in Reply on Matthew 12:50
    I reread my message and I apologize because I did not intend to worry people. Just reached out because it feels like drowning in an ocean. I have scheduled an appointment with my therapist and plan to reach out to a pastor soon. Even though I have had many thoughts that are errant and have felt so far from Christ, God can do the impossible and give me understanding so I am trusting Him for that. This is difficult but I don't want to give up. Thank you to the people who responding with all that good information. Whether this is spiritual or mental and spiritual, I can't give up and am seeking help. Thank you everybody.
  • GiGi again - in Reply on Matthew 12:50
    Nic,

    I hope you are considering professional help. A Christian counselor may help you with counseling and medication to help you with your despairing thoughts and negative voices in you mind. God uses such people to help people like you.

    A simple prayer like, Jesus, "I believe, but help me in my unbelief" will be answered by God. He will come and save you. e loves you 24/7 and desires for you to return to Him and be made whole again.

    My heart hurts for you as you are having such immense struggles on many fronts. Get the front of faith set aright through prayer and the Lord will work with you on the other fronts.

    I am sure of this. Let me know how you are doing, please?
  • GiGi again - in Reply on Matthew 12:50
    Adam,

    Your post is very good. I hope it will sink into Nic's heart and bear fruit unto salvation for her.

    Nic, it sounds like you are despairing for life. Please seek professional help for your condition.

    My son has anxiety/depressive disorder and meds and counseling do help him combat the negative voices in his head and the overwhelming anxiety.
  • GiGi - in Reply on Matthew 12:50
    Dear Nic,

    How are you doing now.

    The fact that you are on this site asking these questions show that you want God to help you. Run to Jesus now. He will receive you. Have you been seen by a doctor for this mental illness? I suggest you consider doing that. Your life is worth living and living in Christ is worth all the marbles. I will pray for you along with others on this site. Please, post often so we continue to support you.
  • The Lord said - in Reply on Matthew 12
    "May I add "you said ?

    Revelation 22v 18 is the answer to all people .
  • The Lord Bless you through the Trials - in Reply on Matthew 12:50
    Some days are awful. It's like "train wreck" all day long (if I allow). You name it, it happens.

    Then I realize that I must've done something RIGHT. :D I switch over to Praise & Worship.

    I learned this through tears, heartache, frustrations, self-condemnation for not being better organized, etc. What that is, is full frontal spiritual warfare. The Fruit is there.

    All we have to do, is STOP and Pray right then. Bind and send out the demons, and pray for God to send the angels in to escort "them" out. "They" are like little chaos demons. If that works, they bring in "doubts"; self attacks.

    We need to DISCERN the Spirits. 1 Cor. 12. If we need that Gift, we can ask The Holy Spirit for it. He knows what we need. That's why I pray first.

    I don't receive it as a personal failure. Anyone doing all the right things are going to be tempted.

    In Genesis, God gave us DOMINION over Creeping Things. Demons are CREEPS. Prayer for them to be sent into Outer Darkness to Wander; WORKS.

    Let's just see it for what it is. Job 1, was doing all the right things. Satan spied on him; was jealous of Gods protection of Job. He decided first to attack Jobs family, homes, wealth, health; and sent in "well-meaning friends" to accuse Job of sinning. Job is in want, need, misery, loss; but he holds tight to his faith in God. He refuses to let go and REACT.

    1. If you get tested a lot. It means you are tight and right, with God. Satan hates our guts for having what he has not, anymore.

    2. If we know someone being tested; let's not Pile On, like Jobs "friends". They got in trouble for it. Weep with those who are weeping. Prayers and words of blessing are more valuable than anything else. Self Pity and False Pity help nobody.

    There's alot of good Truth in the Book of Job. In the End, God reveals His blessing to Jobs faith and holding onto Gods unchanging Love.

    Realize you are doing something RIGHT.

    Mishael
  • Carleton - in Reply on Matthew 12
    May I add, The Godhead though having three are the one, eternal God there is an order of government. The Father is the head and is greater than the Son.

    1 Corinthians 11:3

    John 14:28

    1 Corinthians 12:4-7

    Isaiah 9:6-7

    Luke 1:31-33

    Isaiah 40:9-11

    Jeremiah 23:5-6

    1 John 5:20

    Hebrews 1:2-3

    Revelation 2:23

    Hebrews 1:6-9

    Job 11:7-9

    Isaiah 40:12-14

    :)
  • Carleton - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Thank you Chris E, I am happy for your friendship. By the Grace of God I am at rest and understand the earnest of the Spirit is true until the end.

    Love granted to me is full with the brethren.

    Amen.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - in Reply on Matthew 12
    Hello Precious friend, Carleton. Thanks for your input. May The Triune GodHead Encourage you.

    Amen.


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