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  • Wesley Smith
    Why did not Jesus just tell the deciples Not to worry, because He was right there with them and he knows that they would make it to the other side. Instead He spoke to the storm "Peace be still". Give your understanding of the purpose here where either would have been a comforting word.
  • Chris
    Wesley, that's a good question, as Jesus could have done either, or maybe even shifted the boat to another part of the sea or even to miraculously take all of them onto dry land, leaving the boat to be tossed about & destroyed.

    So there were options before the Lord. Yet, I can see that Jesus had to on numerous occasions prove to His disciples (& others) Who He really was - not just another good person or a prophet. Remembering, that these were generally simple, carnal men who would one day believe on Him, do great exploits in His Name & even go to their deaths for His sake. So through Jesus healing of many, raising the dead, revelation of His Wisdom & Divine Authority, forgiving sins, demons fear of Him, acceptance of worship, prediction of the future, equality with the Godhead, etc. all served to not only touch the lives around Him, but to also prove His Deity, Power & Wisdom.

    So I see Jesus' calming of the storm & waves as yet another one of those proofs He gave to an otherwise disbelieving & fearful coterie of men. He could have calmed them down with comforting words & seen them through the storm - that would've worked too, but He chose to demonstrate God's Power working through Him & that indeed, God had visited His people.
  • Wesley Smith
    Great point. Might I also add that Jesus during his ministry not only proved who he was to a darken world, but also sought to prove to those he held close in teaching that as he was obedient to the Word of His Father so they needed to do likewise. He mentioned time and again that he did as his father commanded. RHe spoke the words of faith not wavering. And this act in calming the storm was another example to his deciles that if they SPOKE the words in faith not wavering then whatsoever the commanded would be accomplished.

    His example lead him to allow the decouples to realize that if the spoke as hi did then the act he did they would also do & more due tho his return to his father.

    Thank you
  • Chris
    Very true. Thank you Wesley.
  • Q E Williams
    Even Jesus our Savior, The Son of Man and the Son of God, After He had fasted forty days (40 days) he was weak, but He was the WORD, so He spoke to HaSatan three times from the OLD TESTAMENT, "IT is WRITTEN " So we must hide the WORD in our heart that we must know the WORD and Speak it in Fairh! "FOR IT IS WRITTEN!" There is POWER Iin the WORD! We need the WORD 24/7! We must stay focused and not distracted! The storms may come and Go, but If We Know the WORD, SOEAK TO THAT STORM to BE STILL and Know that HE IS GOD! They forgot who was in the Boat with them! That's what happens to Us in our daily living.. distractions come, and we forget, "He said He will NEVER LEAVE US" KEEP THE FAITH...allow HIM to take you to the other side...BUT GOD, GOD GOT YOU!
  • Pastor Rodney Garrett
    Pastor Rodney Garrett. 6/7/2020

    Mark 4:35-41

    "Fearful and Faithless"

    Storms in our lives, But God

    Look at situations, But God

    Listening to man, But God

    Fear, But God

    God is in Control/Develop You while going through

    Who creates the storm, But God

    Peace be still/ muzzle

    God is sovereign

    Closer to God/ Storms

    God is in the mist/Miracles

    Peace/waves stopped

    Everything is All Well, But God

    God knows All
  • Marcia for verse 20
    How do we use the weapon Jesus have giving us to fight with.
  • Q E Williams
    Even Jesus our Savior, The Son of Man and the Son of God, After He had fasted forty days (40 days) he was weak, but He was the WORD, so He spoke to HaSatan three times from the OLD TESTAMENT, "IT is WRITTEN " So we must hide the WORD in our heart that we must know the WORD and Speak it in Fairh! "FOR IT IS WRITTEN!" There is POWER Iin the WORD! We need the WORD 24/7! We must stay focused and not distracted! The storms may come and Go, but If We Know the WORD, SOEAK TO THAT STORM to BE STILL and Know that HE IS GOD! They forgot who was in the Boat with them! That's what happens to Us in our daily living.. distractions come, and we forget, "He said He will NEVER LEAVE US" KEEP THE FAITH...allow HIM to take you to the other side...BUT GOD, GOD GOT YOU!
  • Bendito Palavra
    The heroes of faith in the Old Testament learned that it was the LORD that won the battle every time. Their part in any victory was to simply believe and do as he commanded them.

    In Matthew chapter 4, Jesus withstood the devil's temptations by using scripture. The better we know the Word of God, the greater our ability to stand against the assaults of the tempter.

    In John chapter 15 we learn that unless we abide in Jesus Christ, we can do nothing. We wither as a dried branch off the vine.

    In Ephesians 6, we are instructed in the proper use of the armour of God and told that our warfare is in the spiritual realm, not against flesh and blood.

    1 Peter 5:8-11 "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

    1 John chapter 2 gives us some great instruction on the battles we face with our own nature and the ways of this world.

    1 John 5:4-5"For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?"

    Revelation 12:11 "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death."
  • Fred Scanlan
    Love Him with all your soul,heart ,and mind. Be ware what you hear.What measure you meet. His strength is made perfect through weakness.Let your light shine so there will be no darkness at all. Walk while it is light , darkness will come when we cannot walk. Keep your lamps lite and full of oil. Christ is returning for his church!
  • Mary Leonard
    We can learn so much from this chapter if people would just open up their eyes and ears. As Jesus said, "you have eyes, but cannot see." "you have ears, yet you cannot hear." We need to take His Words and apply them to our daily life and share with others to bring forth fruit to grow for the Kingdom of God.
  • Vanessa
    we live in a world where many thorns and thistles are rising trying to choke out the truth putting it away in a closet or covering it up, we are to be the light not blinded by darkness that think they are doing good by God but still in the grips of the fowler, it's not about the world and embracing sin but delivering the word, a house cant stand divided, you cant have it both ways God Bless
  • Obbie Beal

    18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful. (education, more education, laziness, money, more money, careers, cars, cloths, anger, meanness, can easily be thorn(s) in our life if allowed; these will choke the word
  • Stan jett
    Whats the difference in the 'kingdom of God' and the 'kingtom of Heaven'?
  • BSP
    Verse 9~Jesus did not just want people to hear his words, but he wanted people to act on them.
  • Javier Urena
    If it is possible, I'll tell you when I get there :). (Hoping, that is if I make it). Learning and still learning. I believe that is has become simple to say if you believe in Jesus and believe He died for your sins one is forgiven (don't be mistaken, that is true). Paul, one of His messenger's also wrote that he died daily to gain Jesus. Rebuking his *what he believed was true, or his deception* way of living for Him.

    Yes it reads deception and not perception.

    Some to think about. May God bless many to have eyes to see that they may perceive and a heart to understand

    God bless:-)
  • Chris
    (Continuing comment). So if he was 'deceived' by all this, then the whole Gospel account is false, i.e. Christ didn't die for our sins, didn't arise, didn't ascend, didn't send us His Spirit & He isn't at God's RH interceding for us. All false teaching based on NOT Paul's deception/perception, but on Satan's lies & deception to the world to keep them in darkness & hid from the Truth. Please also read 1 John 5, partic. noting v13: we may be certain of eternal life.
  • Chris
    To Javier. I respond to your post & not to the original, which is too old. To first clarify: 1 Cor 15:30,31 shows Paul speaking of his (& other apostles) continual persecution & facing death for the testimony of Christ; NOT to gain favour (or as you maybe thinking: progress to complete salvation). And all this in context of the previous verses: on the fact of resurrection; that if resurrection was not a certainty for him (& to all who believe), they why should he (Paul) allow suffering to be his daily portion; he could 'eat, drink & be merry'. (See following comment).
  • BSP
    Verse 27~The man has no control over spiritual growth. Spiritual growth can't be forced or sped up.
  • Eutychus
    I think vs 24, to be one of most precious verses in the N.T. It seems to set forth an important spiritual truth...

    You will get out of reading, hearing and studying God's Word, what it is you put into it. "For with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again..."

    This is a powerful admonition for us to study and to hear His Word. Romans 10:17...

  • Servant of God
    The storm at sea doesn't let up as Jesus resides in heaven and we on earth have "little faith". We must fend for ourselves, the blind leading the blind. The word has been sown. The sun came up and the earth germinated not the seed for the ground was hard. Thorns and thisles choked the Word for there was lies and corruption. But some shall hear and faint not in their pursuit of the truth, few.
  • Ashley
    Does the thorns have to do with backsliding you suppose?
  • Jesse
    Ashley, I don't believe so. The thorns in the Parable of the Sower is talking about thorns that were already there, and seed falling on top of the thorns. Then it talks about he that hears the word, he gets involved in the cares of this world, and deceitfulness of riches, and they choke the word out. No spiritual growth there. He's got the Word trying to establish itself in soil that is already taken up.

    Jesus calls it the care of this world and deceitfulness of riches. The word care is the word MERIMNA. It is Satan's only weapon against a believer in Christ, and it means the occupation of the attention of the mind. He cannot penetrate the Spirit of Christ that dwells in us, so he keeps us busy and our minds distracted with the cares of this world so we won't have time for the word, which hinders our growth process.

    Backsliding is not found in the N.T. and is never applied to the believer in Christ. It is strictly an O.T. term describing the Children of Israel.

    Hope this helps!
  • Douglas Gilbert Wells
    We should not let the cares of this world affect us
  • Cathryn
    i agree with how we shouldn't let the cares of this world life effect us.
  • Douglas Gilbert Wells
    We need grow in our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ
  • BSP
    Verses 18 and 19: The anxieties of life and wanting material things can cause one's love for God and for God's Word to be choked out and die.
  • Cody
    There is not a storm big enough god can not handle in a blink of an eye
  • BSP
    Verse 24 reminds me of the principle that you get out of something how much you put into something.
  • A disciple
    Ezekiel 8:12 "..Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery?.." When we come before the Lord to hear His word, we have to know WHO it is, that we come before; and with Him who sees into our innermost selves, and shines light upon all our thoughts and intents; we must examine ourselves in truth to set in order before Him.


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