Mark Chapter 2 Discussion



 
  • Grace received on Mark 2
    For the past few years I have been drawn to try to further understand the teachings of Jesus. Of late, I have been instructed to strictly focus on the words of Jesus.

    My last revelation came after reading Mark 2:19-22. The revelation focused on verses 1 and 22.

    Mark 2:21 No man also seweth a piece of new cloth on an old garment: else the new piece that filled it up taketh away from the old, and the rent is made worse.

    2:22 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles.

    Addressing the second verse first, what was given to me is that the new wine is the blood of Jesus. The old wine skins are unbelievers, while the new wine skins are those who have been born again in Jesus.

    Remembering at the last supper Jesus shared bread and wine stating the bread represents his body and the wine his blood, it was revealed to me these verses are representative of being reborn in the Spirit.

    If unbelievers 'drink' the blood of Jesus, due to their unbelief, the wine is as wasted as if it were spilled on the floor. As for the unbeliever, they will not enjoy His promised life eternal. However, when a 'born in the Spirit' drinks the blood, their rebirth occurs and the wine/blood nourishes them to their very being. His promise of life eternal is theirs.

    As far as verse 21, it remains about the Pharisees & other spiritual leaders being without true belief but preaching what they believe their followers want to hear so they (the leaders) are worshipped, glorified, and praised. Jesus's words, teachings, earthly death and resurrection are the new patch that will unravel the old teachings, as taught by those looking for self-glorification, when tested.

    I encourage you to have open eyes, ears & hearts to receive His message.
  • Popeye on Mark 2
    Hi, my questions come from a fellow worker. He asked: Why do children suffer with sicknesses, i.e., Cancer, or any body organ problems? They are innocent. (I understand about the original sin, and I said that to him. He retorted, but why kids?) The other question was geared towards: Why are "faithful individuals constantly scrambling to make ends meet and individuals with not so reputable lives prosper? He said to me that he knew I would ponder the questions as I did for him before. I said to him that these are very difficult questions. (I have known these same questions in the past, and have not gotten an adequate answer that I could give to him.) I just trusted in the Lord, and that all questions may not have answers that I would understand. Please help me that I may pass it along to him. Thank you
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - in Reply on Mark 2
    Popeye asks: "infirmity" questions - Please help me that I may pass it along.

    Popeye, Precious friend, I will pray for you - hope this helps:

    God's GRACE In our infirmities

    (1) Read Romans 5:1-5, especially take note of verse 3, "we glory [rejoice] in tribulations." We are not instructed here to glory in spite of the trials of life we find ourselves in, but we are to rejoice because of them. That is to say we are to thank God for allowing times of suffering into our life. This passage of Scripture expressly states that The Lord uses the tribulations of life "to conform us to The Image Of His Son" (Romans 8:29). To this end, He uses all things "to work together for good to them that love God, to them that are the called According To His Purpose" (Romans 8:28). As we grow mature in The Lord, our Savior is Glorified. As believers in Jesus Christ it is given us "in behalf of Christ, not only to believe on Him, but also to suffer for His Sake" (Philippians 1:29). (Borrowed from brother Ed Bedore) My study:

    (2) After Paul [our #"pattern"# for Today!] prayed 3 times for his affliction, the "Answer he Received," According To The Scriptures, Was:

    "And HE [CHRIST] Said Unto me, MY GRACE Is Sufficient For thee: For MY Strength Is Made Perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory [cp] in my infirmities, that The Power Of CHRIST May Rest Upon me!" (2 Corinthians 12:9) cp (2 Corinthians 11:23-30)

    (3) Compare With GRACE Scriptures: (Romans 5:1-5) (Romans 8:18) (Romans 8:26-29) (1 Corinthians 10:13) (2 Corinthians 1:3-4) (2 Corinthians 4:17) (2 Corinthians 12:9) (Philippians 3:21)

    #"pattern"# = Paul = (1 Timothy 1:16) (Philippians 4:9)

    Please be Very Encouraged In The LORD JESUS CHRIST And His Word Of Truth!
  • Popeye - in Reply on Mark 2
    Thank you.I hope I can explain it to my coworker the way you explained it to me. I also will pray for you. May the Lord keep you safe in these trying to times.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Mark 2
    Popeye.

    How about copying and paste it, then send it to your friend.

    God bless.
  • Popeye - in Reply on Mark 2
    Thank you. I will try to pass it along. I also will pray for you.
  • I John 2:17 - in Reply on Mark 2
    >"Why are "faithful individuals constantly scrambling to make ends meet and individuals with not so reputable lives prosper?"

    Psalms 73
  • Fred - in Reply on Mark 2
    I like to believe that I am faithful to Jesus and have been most of my life! There have been times when things were not easy, but we never went without. God blessed me with a mind, and a will too work and make a good living. He has fulfilled his promises. As a matter of fact, my life at one time was as Job. Now, I can say like him that god has doubled and in some cases tripled my health, property, and children. All these things I lost a one time. The bible is true, only if you believe it and what it says, and not what someone else says! Such as Jobs friends could be like ours, who say curse God.
  • Popeye - in Reply on Mark 2
    Thank you.
  • Constance Kueber on Mark 2:28
    I believe that Jesus did not change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. It is not stated in the Bible.
  • Adam - in Reply on Mark 2:28
    Hello, I don't know any Christians who think the Sabbath is Sunday. Sabbath is Saturday. I think people often conflate a day of worship with a day of rest. These were never the same day; if you think they were the same day can you share evidence of that?

    I believe Christians most often worship on Sunday, because that's the example given for what the early Christians did: Acts 20:7
  • Offerings and Tithes - in Reply on Mark 2:28
    I'm weary of the sabbath issue.

    Let's discuss the differences between tithing and offerings.

    Jubilee. Is it only for Jewish people?

    Am I bad? I think we tithe cause God ordained it. I give offerings because all people need food.
  • Adam - in Reply on Mark 2:28
    Not sure why you want to reply to someone on a given topic then say you want to discuss another topic. Who are you?
  • New Testament Sabbath Practices by Mishael - in Reply on Mark 2:28
    I think we as a whole, do not fully understand what the Sabbath Day is for; according to ONLY New Testament revision, implemented by the Lord Jesus Christ. He was Lord of the Old Testament (Covenant), and Jesus taught revisions in the years of his ministry on earth.

    The Pharisees only perceived Jesus was going to upset their whole way of operation. They would rather have Jesus dead, than change anything about Sabbath, tithes and offerings, helping out the poor.

    I will be hated too for it too. Jesus went in and overturned money changer tables, let loose the doves, scattered sheep. WHY? Outside the Temple it was like a New York stock exchange. Clearly Jesus does not want that in His Church.

    COLOSSIANS 1:18; 2:8-23, Details what Jesus wants from His New Testament Church.

    If we have great need of blessing and help, we give our best and Jesus will bless accordingly. The Churches operate on Tithes, alone. They were not meant to consume the offerings on their church beautification projects. All that is destined to be burned to ashes.

    I might ask: if everyone in your household was in bed on the edge of death, would you leave and attend Sabbath, because you were afraid of Not going?

    I perceive Jesus as being Very Practical, and Merciful to the problems of mankind. If our household is struck down in bed with COVID, we should be able to summon the Pastors or Elders to come and pray for the sick.

    Sabbath is not constrained to a particular day of the week. The Service Times are posted, and people attend on those days. Jesus wants them to be able to get to a service so they can be taught, take communion, give tithes and offerings, receive prayer for healing.

    That's why people are sitting home on Weekends. Our society sucks the life out of us with work, low pay, grid-locked traffic twice a day, kid problems, elderly parents that need visits.

    Church must be more flexible. It serves people. Not vice versa. Study Jesus's examples in NT
  • Alec Ford on Mark 2
    Can anyone explain Mark 2 vs 23 -28 I have read this many times and still don't understand what it means. I know it has to have a meaning or else it wouldn't be in the bible
  • Jesse - in Reply on Mark 2
    Part 2:

    According to law, the priest was the only one who was able to eat it, because after he changed the bread off with fresh bread, he would eat the old bread himself. So the priest took it and said here, take the shewbread. You are hungry. You need it. And Jesus is saying you Pharisees don't get it. It is not legalism.

    Mark 2:27: And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

    He says look, God gave you the Sabbath Day as a gift. Did you ever notice that they, and we, still don't take that gift? We refuse to take a day off to get away from involvement with the world and just rest and focus on the things the Lord.

    So Jesus said look, even in your own rules, because they had rules, but if the Pharisees were walking down the road and their horse fell into a ditch, they could pull it out.

    You say well how can they do that? Because they made the rule that they could. They made the rules! So Jesus said you are in the wrong spirit here.

    The Sabbath was given to man as a gift. Man wasn't made so that he would fulfill the Sabbath. The Sabbath was given to man. Obviously, if there's an emergency, what are you going to do? You can't call an ambulance today, you will have to wait till tomorrow because, you know, it is the Sabbath Day.

    Lastly, Mark 2:28 says Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

    Wow, what a statement! He's in charge of the Sabbath, and what He does is right.

    I hope this helps you!
  • Jesse - in Reply on Mark 2
    Alec Ford,

    Those verses tell us about the Confrontation over the Sabbath. I'll give you my understanding of those verses in two parts as there is not enough space in one post. This will be part 1.

    First of all, in Mark 2:23, if your text says corn, they didn't have corn there in those days. It was grain fields on the Sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of grain. And by the way, you are allowed to do that. The law allows you to do that. In Mark 2:24, you have to understand that the Pharisees were there to evaluate. They said you are reaping the harvest.

    No! The law allowed that if you are walking along, you can pull heads of grain off and eat it if you are hungry, but you can't harvest it on the Sabbath, because you're not allowed to work on the Sabbath.

    So the Pharisees said, "We consider that harvesting!" In fact, there were incidents where people would walk along the ground and step on a stock and some of the grain would fall off the stock and they got them for harvesting. Legalists!

    In Mark 2:25, Jesus said to them, "Have you never read?" He is speaking to religious people. And He is saying "haven't you ever read the Old Testament, the TANAK?" Have you never read what David did? This would be 1 Samuel 21:1-6. Have you never read what David did, when he had need and was hungry, and he, and those that were traveling with him?

    In Mark 2:26, the phrase "into the house of God" used in this verse means into the tabernacle.

    So you see, He says David and his band of men were traveling, and they were hungry. And they come across the temple and they said to the priest do you have any food here? Well, the only food I have is the shewbread, the presentation bread, the 12 loaves of bread that represent the 12 tribes of Israel.
  • OnlytruthintheworldKJV - in Reply on Mark 2
    Greetings in Jesus' name, Alec.

    In this passage of scripture we can see that the pharisees were trying to trip Jesus up & condemn Him, as they always tried to, unsuccessfully. The sabbath was a convocation (an act or rehearsal) pointing to the 7th day 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ after His second coming. This is the rest spoken of in Hebrews that remaineth to enter into. Christian's don't enter into a day of the week, though there's certainly nothing wrong with observing the sabbath and the Lord's day.

    Concerning the pharisees:

    13 But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

    -Isaiah 28:13

    This is why Jesus said in :

    Matthew 23:23 KJV

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

    John 1:17

    For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

    I hope this helps you.

    Be well,

    Andrew
  • Steven Spencer on Mark 2:28
    Alex this is comforted drawn from 2 Samuel 12:24. different word and different meaning from comforter in John. Hebrew:

    Transliteration: ncham

    Pronunciation: naw-kham'

    Definition: A primitive root; properly to {sigh} that {is} breathe strongly; by implication to be {sorry} that {is} (in a favorable sense) to {pity} console or (reflexively) rue; or (unfavorably) to avenge (oneself): - comfort ({self}) ease [one s {self]} repent ({-er} {-ing} self).

    KJV Usage: comfort(57x), repent(41x), comforter(9x), ease(1x).

    Occurs: 108

    In verses: 100.
  • KathyM on Mark 2:28
    It seems strange to me that Jesus would refer to himself as "the Son of Man," since the first man created by God was Adam. I read that in those times, "Son of" meant that person had authority over others. Why not "Father of" instead. Or Son of God. I know that Jesus didn't always like to admit who He was, but I don't get it. Please explain, if possible. Thanks.
  • Chris - in Reply on Mark 2:28
    I don't believe that saying the "Son of" someone implies an authority over others. It's simply an identification with his father. In eastern cultures, it is very important that a family's bloodline or genealogy is known, so that the person being addressed is fully known by his background. In India, often the surname is placed before the given name as that is what is more important: to know the family & after knowing that, to know who you are.

    With Jesus, He generally referred Himself as the Son of Man & yet we know that He was also the Son of God. The Son of God title was to acknowledge His Deity (i.e. His indivisible relationship with His Father) & the Son of Man title, associated with His Humanity, coming into the World in a human body.

    Matthew 26:63-65: "And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses?" Here we see an example of where Caiaphas the High Priest asked about Jesus's Sonship & Jesus affirmed that He was the Son of God but that he (the priest), & all others, would see the "Son of Man" seated in Heaven & returning one day to Earth. And to this Caiaphas accused Jesus of blasphemy as Jesus claimed to be God. So this Son of God by Divine right to the Father was also the Son of Man on Earth & is so presently in Heaven, i.e. God in the Flesh seated at the right Hand of God.
  • Donald Turnmire on Mark 2
    What must I do to be saved?
  • Rod - in Reply on Mark 2
    I believe that Jesus answered this very well with the parable of the good Samaritan, Luke 10 verses 5 to 37

    also James chapter 2 and Matthew chapter 5, Beatitudes and sermon on the mount,

    Luke 10:25

    "And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?"

    Luke 10:37

    "And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise."

    James 2:26

    "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."
  • J lawrence on Mark 2:23
    It would be interesting to know what the original word was for the actual item they plucked: some say corn some say grain some say wheat.

    I've always assumed it would be wheat: Corn doesn't come on ears it comes on a cob and it is well

    Wrapped up. Hard to get at the individual nuts. Wheat is on the ear.

    Also it is more ludicrous that they should be accused of sabbath breaking just for plucking an ear of wheat. Plus of course, taking

    A whole cob of corn would get them

    arrested for theft.
  • Catholics Will Burn in Hell on Mark 2:7
    Thank you Jesus for your edifying words! This one verse invalidates the confessional of the pagan and brutal great whore of Babylon (the Catholic church pagan religion).

    All catholic whoremongers will burn in hell, along their "beloved church satan invention".

    Note: not hate speech, just my opinion.
  • Brother dan - in Reply on Mark 2:7
    It is very hard for us not to judge others. As Christians we should not "judge or condemn" anyone. This will be performed by Jesus at judgement.

    We should pray for all of our brothers and sisters in this life, including Catholics, and everyone else.

    Matthew 7:1

    "Judge not, that ye be not judged."

    God Bless.
  • Jayman - in Reply on Mark 2:7
    Not entirely true not all Catholics are completely connected to the deceitful aspects of the Catholic church there may be pegan doctrine but not all are unsavedif they have faith in Jesus Christ to which we should pray for them and not determine they are going to hell , that is God's place
  • Mishael - in Reply on Mark 2:7
    Matthew Chapter 12

    35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

    36 But I say unto you, That every IDLE WzORD that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

    37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
  • Andy G van den Berg on Mark 2
    On MARK 2:21

    By nature every person is born in sin through the sinful seed of their natural fathers and conditioned therein (1 Peter 1:23). For that reason and in order to become a son of God, which are born of God, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God, a person must be 'Born Again' (John 1:12,13; 3:3-7; 1 John 3:9; 5:4).

    God is the judge over His Church and teaches us that you must be 'Born Again'. No believer and follower of the true Christ has ever made a claim that they are 'Born Again'. That is judging oneself and falsehood, as in truth they follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; Rev. 12:9). This is how Satan has transformed Himself into an angel of light (2 Cor. 11:13-15).

    Only through 'True Repentance' will God be able to reveal Himself, and adopt you as His sons and daughters (Rom. 8:15,23; 2 Cor.6:18; Gal. 4:5; Eph. 1:5; Hebr. 12:5; 1 John 3:1).

    The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God (Acts 26:18).

    For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived (Rev. 12:9), and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive (John 14:17).

    You need not that any man teach you (Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), It is only by revelation of God that you will come to know Christ (Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1). It is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it.


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