Malachi Chapter 3 Discussion Page 2



 
  • Anthony on Malachi 3:10 - 2 years ago
    MALACHI 3:10 DOES NOT...

    ...Instruct any Christian to tithe.

    ...Instruct the tithing of money; AKA, monetary tithing.

    ...Address New Testament Believers.

    ...Authorize any New Testament minister to collect tithes in any form.

    ...Require a Gentile to tithe.

    ...Require any tithe to be surrendered off the Land of Israel.

    ...Assign any tithe given to anyone by God, including the tithe given to the Tribe of Levi, to any person under the New Testament.

    ...Promise great wealth to any individual.

    ...Address any individual, but rather the Nation of Israel.

    ...Provide curses against any Christian for not tithing.

    Anyone referring to Malachi 3:10, or any other scripture speaking of tithing, as authorization to collect tithes from anyone under the New Testament, IS A LIAR.

    >>> The Short Version; concerning the Book of Malachi.

    MALACHI CANNOT BE USED TO INSTRUCT ANY CHRISTIAN TO TITHE...

    > Malachi 1:1 - Malachi is speaking to the Nation of Israel, not the New Testament Church.

    "The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi."

    > Malachi 1:6 - Malachi is speaking to the Nation of Israel and the corrupt Priests of Aaron that despise God's name, not the New Testament Church.

    "...saith the LORD of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name."

    > Malachi 2:1 - The command to bring a portion of the Temple tithe to the Temple storehouses to support the porters and singers is to the corrupt Priests of Aaron, not the New Testament Church.

    "And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you." (cross ref. Nehemiah 10:37-39).

    > Malachi 3:9 - This verse makes is very clear that the God robbers were from the Nation of Israel, not the New Testament Church.

    "Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation." Note: "THIS whole nation (the Nation of Israel who Malachi is addressing)," not the New Testament Church. The New Testament Church is NOT the Nation of Israel. Also, the Nation of Israel were called by God to return to Him, which for p
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Malachi 3:8 - 2 years ago
    Tracy, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    There is more than enough in today's KJV to know TRUTH.

    Most don't study. You can't know without study; ALSO, you can't know without THE SPIRIT revealing it to you.

    The tithes in the Old Testament were always products (firstfruits) of the land, livestock, grain, olive oil, etc. (not money). These were given to the priests to have food to eat, because they received no land inheritance to grow and raise their own food.

    Malachi wasn't rebuking the people for not tithing, but for bring polluted tithes, sick cattle, spoiled grain, etc. that was not life sustaining for the priest.

    The tithe is no longer in effect because the Levitical priesthood no longer exist.

    We are now under grace and you GIVE (not required as was the tithe) from the goodness of your heart.

    Under the New Covenant; we are the firstfruits of the land, and we are POLLUTED and not accepted of the lord as an offering of RIGHTEOUSNESS. ENTER Christ WHO MAKES US an acceptable offering of RIGHTEOUSNESS to the Lord.
  • Tracy Q on Malachi 3:8 - 2 years ago
    I'm seeking and searching for the original Bible from the 1600's before verses scripts and chapters were removed from the Bible, there has been studies shown that Malachi was talking to the priest and not the people. I'm not seeking to gain whatsoever I only desire to have a relationship and be close with Christ. When I began giving tithes my life went shipwrecked so I will continue to seek and continue my faith walk.

    God Bless
  • Randall phillips on Malachi 3 - 3 years ago
    this is randall phillips and i love the lord jesus with all my heart and all my sole..
  • Mishael - In Reply on Malachi 3:3 - 3 years ago
    All my life, I relied on taking a new car to a top notch Mechanic to check that car out. It will save you lots of money.

    Buy a car that a mechanic highly recommends.

    This is for free; even for dating: don't get wowed over appearance. Look for durable and dependable.
  • Donna Williams - In Reply on Malachi 3:3 - 3 years ago
    I would like to share that I believe that this is one of the most misused scriptures in the Bible. We as believers in Jesus Christ are under the New Covenant of Grace and not the Old Covenant according to the Law of Moses.

    Malachi was an Old Testament prophet and the Lord used him to speak to the Israelites, not to the Gentiles. The Israelites were not honoring the Covenant of God. The storehouse was the place I believe in the Temple of God, where the people were supposed to bring the tithes and offerings (their produce or food) to support the Levites, who were given the office of the Levitical Priesthood.

    I suggest that you study the book of Leviticus, where God commanded the tithe. The tithe was instituted by God to teach the children of Israel to put God first.

    It is a principle that we follow as New Testament believers to honor the Lord by our love and devotion to Him, not out of fear of being cursed. Proverbs 3:9

    The New Testament tells us that Jesus became a curse for us: "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one who hangeth on a tree." Galatians 3:13

    I encourage you to develop a personal relationship with the Holy Spirit who is our Teacher and the One who has been sent to lead us and guide us into all truth.

    Is it possible that you have purchased an unreliable automobile, and not that you are under a curse because of how your car runs? I pray that you will receive deliverance from hearing the truth. Jesus said "you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32
  • Redruby on Malachi 3:3 - 3 years ago
    What is the storehouse in the book of malachi the bible talks about? And how do I get out of a curse concerning having a good running vehicle??
  • Richard - In Reply on Malachi 3:10 - 3 years ago
    I very much like your post Alex and agree. Connecting Scriptures together. Right in line with 1 Peter 1:7:

    That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

    God Bless you brother!
  • Alex on Malachi 3:10 - 3 years ago
    Comments by Alex about Judgement, the lake of fire. His baptism of the H.G. AND FIRE. That what the world needs is judgement, The world is mankind,Its mankind that needs a new heart and a new spirit. There is absolulty nothin wrong with this beautiful earth, The new earth and new spirit is simply our new innerman,our new hearts and our new spirit.Its mankinds demonic nature,our carnal minds etc that needs to be destroyed.God is not gonna destroy this beautiful earth as Isaiah said as the new earth and the new heaven shall remain so shall thy Seed and Name remain. The seed of the sower is gonna form a new innerman in us thus the new earth.Man has always been symbolic of th earth. The 1st man was of the earth earthly but the 2 nd man is the lord from heaven, thus the new earth is simply Christ in us. which is the H.G. HIS NAME SAKE. Thus that lake of fire is simply another Jordan a river of life etc As our God is a consuming fire, EVERY liar ( sinner ) shall have their part in the lake of fire,THATS EVERYBODY NO EXCEPTIONS We need that lake of fire its simply his baptism of fire and the H.G.Who shall abide the day of his coming, Who shall stand when he appears, for he shall be as a refiners FIRE and fullers soap. mal 3 the 2 nd coming that refiners fire is his lake of fire as our God is a consuming fire. there is absolutlty nobody that is gona escape the lake of fire Just as nobody cd escape the curse of Adam, Not one, thus Nobody can escape the blood of the lamb, Thats y they call his the 2 nd ADAM NOBODY CAN ESCAPE THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB,if i be lifted up i will draw ALL MEN unto me, thus nobody can escape the blood of the lamb that 2 nd ADAM. TY JESUS. NOT 1 SINGLE PERSON CD ESCAPE THE CURSE OF ADAM,Thus not 1 single person can escape the blood ( the blessing of the lamb ) Thus every person will have their part in the lake of fire,The great cleasing. The lake of fire was for satan and his angels AND mankinds carnal mind which is in rank with satan. Thank YOU JESUS.
  • Alex on Malachi 3:1 - 3 years ago
    Comments by Alex about our old adamic nature, we answer to the RED HEIFER we need to be burnt to ashes.remember the ashes of a heifer. but now we are the heifer, the Church answers to Red Heifer,our old adamic nature which is our carnal minds needs to be burnt to ashes at the door of the tabernacle ( our hearts ).Remember he said he wd not leave them root nor branch,nothin is gonna be left of our adamic nature,our carnal minds that we use to go lusting after everthing we see. We need that baptism of fire as our God is a consuming fire which is gonna come via his word,You are made clean by the word i have spoken unto you, But his word is the fire as Jeremiah said. I'm talking bout judgement as our God is a consuming fire anythime you read about baptism of fire thats his judgement whom the lord loveth he chaseth, thank God for that lake of fire its simply a lake of Gods spirit AS OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE , AKA AS THAT RIVER OF LIFE.DANIEL SAW 3 MEN IN THAT RIVER OF LIFE. Who shall abide the day of his coming , Who shall stand when he appears ,for he shall be as a REFINERS FIRE AND FULLERS SOAP that might offer up our bodies as a living sacrifice , This is Gods judgement that we so need, which is his baptism of fire, behold i come to bring fire on the earth, which is his baptism of fire, which is his word that is his fire as the word makes us clean its his fire that is gona make us clean. The great judge is the H.G. REMEMBER SOLOMON WAS THE GREATEST JUDGE IN THE O.T. And Solomon means Comforter symbolic of the H.G. AND FIRE that IS GONA MAKE OUR BODIES HIS TEMPLE. But his temple has to be made clean thus his baptism of fire. Always remember our God is a consuming fire that is gonna consume our adamic nature, our carnal minds etc. we are gonna have the mind of Christ, We need judgement, which is his baptism of fire and the H.G. WE ANSWER TO THE RED HEIFER. HEIFER IMPLIES FEMALE THE CHURCH IS FEMALE BUT WE ARE STILL RED WITH SIN. That which is perfect has not come
  • Be born again Now - In Reply on Malachi 3:2 - 3 years ago
    John 3
  • Use of Website Bible Search Tools - In Reply on Malachi 3:2 - 3 years ago
    When you first enter this website you will see 2 SEARCH Boxes. One is empty and the other is set up so you can dial in your scripture.

    If you want to read what scholars have explained about your scripture, you will need to touch your scripture to highlight it Yellow.

    Scroll slowly downward until you see the COMMENTARY BOX.

    Some commentary will explain in groups of scripture ie.1-5, 6-20, Etc

    I use this a lot! If search can't find your particular verse, a box to search in Google will pop up. Scan the verses there and see if you see the scripture worded a little differently.

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    If the word you remember is in either Old Testament; or New Testament, you can select one, and the search engine will list them in order.

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    There many BIBLE study helps on here that you can use to widen your searches and help you find something Faster. Don't be afraid to try everything out and see what it does. Be adventurous :)

    Keep paper and pencil next to you so you can look up verses in your Bible later; in Context.

    In your Bible: (Not the website)

    Use center of each page columns to (the little alphabet letters) to widen your study of each verse. They may pertain to history, or prophesies.

    If you get lost, just back arrow or back out and come back in again.
  • Book of Joel 2 and Locust Invasion in Africa - In Reply on Malachi 3:2 - 3 years ago
    One verse mentions about worldwide swarms of locusts. This is a piece of a news article from 2/14/2020:

    The current swarms of locusts are the most serious outbreak in decades, affecting Somalia, Ethiopia, Kenya, Eritrea and most recently, Tanzania and Uganda. The locusts could fly into South Sudan, a country whose population is already struggling with high levels of hunger. The swarms are extremely large, in North-Eastern Kenya, one swarm was measured to be 37 miles long and 25 miles wide.

    The UN says that desert locusts are the most dangerous migratory pests because of their capacity to decimate crops, threatening food security and livelihoods. Swarms, which can contain 40-80 million locust adults, can consume crops in one day that would provide food for 35,000 people.

    "The longer the outbreak continues, the higher the risk of famine goes up," Peter Smerdon of the World Food Program in East Africa tells TIME. "You need to knock them out before they start wreaking further havoc."

    The latest locust swarms migrated from the Arabian peninsula, where cyclones in the deserts of Oman this fall created ideal breeding conditions. The swarms arrived on the African continent three months ago and have since grown in size and scope. The UN Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO) has warned that the swarms could increase by 500 times come June, in light of rainy forecasts. [ Next paragraph indicates it may be from global weather changes]

    if you go to the Commentary Box on this website, it will tell you what Wesley taught on this chapter in Joel.

    It would be a study into history of locust swarms on earth. Joel's locusts seem to mention The Chaldeans.

    I can't do a study like this quickly. Co to the Commentary Box ( below the 2 Search Boxes) and highlight the verses and read. Ask the Holy Spirit to help you place the Time on these events.
  • Dave Sudlow - In Reply on Malachi 3:2 - 3 years ago
    Oh ok I mean for example Joel 2: 11

    The day of the lord is great and very terrible (? is who can abide it). who will?
  • Mishael - In Reply on Malachi 3:2 - 3 years ago
    Stand on what? Give us a verse :)
  • Dave Sudlow on Malachi 3:2 - 3 years ago
    Who are these people who can stand
  • RevJones - In Reply on Malachi 3:10 - 3 years ago
    Trust in the lord,and lean not to your understanding but depend on him.
  • Mark 414 18-20 TITHING - In Reply on Malachi 3 - 3 years ago
    I heard this parable as a new Christian. I didn't really understand at first. I just did it as an act of obedience:

    18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,

    19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

    20 And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.

    Jesus is THE SOWER (verse 14). He gives the Increase according to the willingness of the heart. There's another scripture that says to give it with cheerfulness.

    I know that the money is increased in my life: learning of the Word of God, healing, pizza on my table; prayers answered for my family.

    I know satan fights against it because he immediately rushes in to argue about new tires, limping appliances, etc. He doesn't want us to be obedient in anything.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Malachi 3 - 3 years ago
    Well the tithe was to support the Priest tribe of Levi in the old testament.

    Numbers 18:24 But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.

    It was to support the tribe that did the work of the Lord for the Tabernacle.

    TV preachers who claim you must tithe, to them of course, should MUST prove that they are of the tribe of Levi and are worthy to receive the tithe on behalf of the Lord. IF NOT send them nothing. If they are not of Levi then you are not tithing.

    Jesus never said anything about losing salvation over tithes and neither did the apostles.

    I suggest you ask the wife to show where this is since I can not find this doctrine.

    Offerings yes and they were to be given willingly as one felt led.

    Should we help the less fortunate or buy Jet fuel for the TV preachers Lear Jet?

    Jet fuel is sure expensive as is the upkeep on mansions.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Malachi 3 - 3 years ago
    William,

    You are correct. Salvation is by the grace of God. It is God who saves us and it is God who keeps us saved. We can't keep ourselves saved. We have to ask ourselves who are we trusting in as far as our salvation goes? Are we trusting in our own human work and effort, or are we trusting in God? If our salvation or loss of is dependent upon what we do or do not do, then it is no more of grace. There is nothing that reverse our physical birth, and there is nothing that can reverse our Spiritual birth. If it were not for the power of God's grip and His power to keep me saved, my flesh would walk away right now. So again, we have to ask, are we trusting in our fleshly work to keep us saved, or are we trusting in God's power? I know who I'm trusting. And apart from Him and His power to keep me, I'm a goner! Salvation cannot be lost. Salvation is all of God. The only thing I contributed to my salvation was the sin from which I needed to be saved from. Hopefully your wife will come to know that her salvation is not dependent upon what she does or does not do, but upon the power and grace of God. Jesus has taken up residence in my life and He promised that He will never leave me. So if He never leaves me, which He has promised, then I have eternal life because I have Christ, an He is eternal. I hope this helps. God bless!!!
  • Adam - In Reply on Malachi 3 - 3 years ago
    I believe we aren't truly 'saved' until we're judged after this life. But I believe grace covers those who genuinely seek and follow Jesus- a Christian is a Christ follower. If someone doesn't follow Christ they won't be saved, and I believe if a Christian stops following Christ and follows the world or satan instead I believe they are not saved. If a Christian commits blasphemy of the holy spirit they aren't saved either. But there is nothing in the Bible about tithing and salvation being connected.
  • William on Malachi 3 - 3 years ago
    My wife tells me that you can lose your salvation by not giving your tithes ,I can say I am not sure about this,we are saved by the the Grace of our Father in Heaven.

    Can anyone offer any info about this .

    Thank you
  • William - In Reply on Malachi 3 - 3 years ago
    So only give to receive Blessings ,we should give with a open mind ,not looking for something in return.
  • William - In Reply on Malachi 3 - 3 years ago
    Well said !;
  • Albert liboyio - In Reply on Malachi 3:10 - 3 years ago
    Look true servant of God to recieve true salvation.
  • Pam - In Reply on Malachi 3 - 3 years ago
    Keep your devotions...read the Bible, meditate,

    pray...if all you have is God in your mind...you have enough. Give thanks.
  • Ottili ogugua izuu on Malachi 3:14 - 3 years ago
    How can I restore my spiritual life again and be fill with the spirit
  • JLeigh - In Reply on Malachi 3:10 - 3 years ago
    People love the power money and such gives them over others but you can never buy a true love with money and to gain money is stripping the earth of all it and changing the order set for it! The earth is alive just as we are it heals itself, cleanse itself, plants itself, it was meant to be be helpful to give us life meant to be a garden that we could all simply walk and eat no need for even shelter as before the flood there was not even rain or storms! People have tried to change the order so destroying all as prodigal children! All for the power they can gain over others so destroying even themselves and their children! When you are all harmed or suffer you all cry for the order but then otherwise deny it so you all remain as stuck in a bottomless! Symbolic for making the same mistakes over and over the only way out of the pit is wisdom to the order set for all creation by the father of all creation!
  • JLeigh - In Reply on Malachi 3:10 - 3 years ago
    Like faith is simply a name put to something more than just belief it is only the beginning and made whole when you know! Do not stay in belief as the sheep know it and teach it become the shepherd pastor the people!

    You can know though the right judgement of all things to the order set for all creation by the father of all creation! Also known as the order of the father!
  • JLeigh - In Reply on Malachi 3:10 - 3 years ago
    Prayer is simply a name put to something more than as a tool for teaching and learning like talking or thinking to yourself or out loud when you talk to self or others you are also talking to God you just name it as the spirit of God's wisdom that is coming from your mouth and your head


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