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  • Steve Anderson on Luke 17
    Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way by taking heed thereto according to thy word.

    thy word i shall hide in my heart that i might not sin against thee...

    blessed are the undefiled in the way who walk in the law of the lord.. blessed are they that keep his testimonies and that seek him with the whole heart .

    jesus didnt come to destroy the law but to fulfill . and to make a way for us to uphold its precepts in the spirit and not in the letter.
  • NICK HANLEY on Luke 17
    Is it true that God continues to use the deeds of the wicked to fulfill His plan and purpose as He did in the book of Daniel?
  • Connie - in Reply on Luke 17
    Nick. Great question. As a surviving adult of child trafficking I can answer from my own personal experience. Yes! I have been here for about a week . I hoped to share my experiences about how my love for God is unique to my own life. I have witnessed and survived the most unGodly cruelties of mankind upon children that continues at this very moment. So yes if I had not been enslaved I would not have my own understanding of God's involvement in our lives on a personal basis. But i have been told that i am not saved because i am not a follower of Christian traditions. But I will never forget and I will never be moved from my love of God. The terrifying and wonderful love and fear .
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 17
    Connie, you would certainly have a vibrant, up-to-date testimony of God's intervention in your marred life & his Gift of New Life to you, through His Son. And even God using what seemed as a vile & abhorrent mistreatment by others, turned out to your favour & salvation. You have much to praise God for. And true, following Christian traditions won't save you or anyone else, but obedience to what the Bible teaches for our salvation & hope of eternity, will. For its only in God's Word that we can find the Words of Life & not from the words of men or even from our own thoughts. May God help you & bless you as you look to Him & learn from Him.
  • Connie - in Reply on Luke 17
    Chris thank you for understanding my personal testimony of how God is very much involved in people's life on a personal level. I hoped to help here but my views are very misunderstood here. I don't think the world is ready for my testimony. I have not found much kindness here on the subject of my love for God.
  • Sacha - in Reply on Luke 17
    I know that however much i love God and Jesus it really isnt enough ,my heart would literally burst i think if i loved Them as much as i should ,my love is like one drop of water in the ocean ,my heart is cold and hard and i am totally reliant on Gods mercy which He shows me in a million different ways every day . I am literally lost without Him .
  • Connie - in Reply on Luke 17
    Sacha that is such a wonderful testimony!.

    That kind of fellowship is exactly what I believe I was searching for here.

    When i read the scriptures and see how it tells of how the people think and act I find myself being the one who needs corrected.

    I have never seen a scripture that I could say described how right i am thinking nor how wrong anyone else is thinking.

    I am not ashamed to admit that I don't know how God , or Jesus is working with other people.

    i see in my eyes, the one drop of love you described , is bigger than any ocean i have seen.

    Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. It melted my own cold heart a bit..
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Luke 17
    Why not, he's the same God, right? I suspect your real question is,"how" can he do that. One attribute of God is omnipotence. Look it up and marvel.
  • Eyechi on Luke 17:34
    One shall be taken = Death
  • A child of God on Luke 17:4
    Reply to 2Chrome Eyes... I f someone keep hurting you, Take the necessary steps to avoid the willful hurt.. Forgive is a must but you do not have to stay in a position to keep experiencing the hurt.. Mark and avoid such people.
  • Roy Rhodes on Luke 17
    What should the responsibility of a wife be financially if she works should she be splitting reponsibilties of utilties and such if she works according to the bible should not we save money for emergencies and also save for our childrens inheritance Should spending money be discussed with one another even if its 20 dollars especially if you have a partner who is very free with money
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 17
    The matter of finances, particularly financial responsibility, has been one of the many issues that has been the wedge causing much grief, even driven families apart. Trading with goods & later, the introduction of money, has always been a part of our human experience & necessity & is never condemned by Jesus - only in the aspect of where our affections & time are given to (Luke 18:18-25). I believe that all couples need to discuss this matter, as they would concerning children, property, etc., early on in their marriage, so the groundwork may be laid for an agreed & acceptable manner of dealing with finances.

    Some couples believe that separate bank accounts are necessary, what one earns & spends being the responsibility of each one; & this might work especially when agreement cannot be reached otherwise. For my wife & I, all monies that are brought in, are treated as common earnings/savings in joint accounts. We realize that if we save or spend unwisely, then we will suffer together in that decision. However, if one of us is unable to handle money correctly (& there are many lacking wisdom in this area), then the other should have the control. But a lot of this can be sorted out, by first discussing this matter & making clear agreements early on.

    And so in the matter of dealing with 'obligatory' & 'optional' expenses, monies need to be set aside for those purposes, so that utility expenses, repayment of loans, food purchases, children's education, the Lord's Work, etc. are not neglected thereby causing greater hardship. As my wife advises others, "not every one has the wherewithal to put steak on the plate each day or afford a Gucci or Louis Vuitton hand bag" - prudence dictates that we spend according to our means. Saving for the future or for the children, is wise, & not a demonstration of a lack of faith in God (Proverbs 6:6-8). If a spouse can't be trusted to even spend $20, then that problem needs airing & a strict discipline to spending applied for all.
  • Frank King on Luke 17
    I have a question regarding the Name of Jesus, as in Acts 4:12, Neither is there salvation in any other for there is none other Name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.

    Obviously, there is power in the Name of Jesus. When I pray I generally end with, "...in Jesus Name, but I don't know why. I would appreciate comments from the community about this very important topic. Thank you.
  • Albert Taylor - in Reply on Luke 17
    I must commend you for ending your prayer in the Name of Jesus. As you well know, Jesus is the Name of the Savior. Colossians 3:17 says"And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him." So by praying in the Name of Jesus, you are praying to God. Salvation came only by Jesus (Acts 4:12; Matthew 1:21; John 17:6; Luke 3:31; John 1:14) So when you pray in the name of Jesus, you are praying to God. All of the fullness of God is in Jesus(Colossians 1:19). We are saved through Jesus--He died on the Cross and provided the means of escape for the whole world. The demons tremble at the name of Jesus(James 2:19) Again, I commend you for praying in Jesus' Name and ending your prayer in Jesus' Name. There is no other name given to us whereby we must be saved. Jesus even said that repentance and remission of sins would be preached in His name (Luke 24:47). It is through His name that we are baptized (Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8; Acts 2:38; Acts 3: 19) I am so grateful to find believers who still hold to the Bible. God bless you and may God keep you is my prayer. I hope I provided some insight into Name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
  • Frank King - in Reply on Luke 17
    Thank you, Albert, for your kind and insightful reply.
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 17
    I agree, we often take on board thoughts & words that we give little heed to, & this results in a repetition that we don't know the reason for. I understand that when we approach God with our needs & requests, we know that He does hear us as we ask in His Will & in faith. But we also know that it is only because of His Son Jesus Christ that we even dare to approach Him & come boldly before the Throne & that any request we can make, can only be because of our relationship to Him & the authority we have through Him.

    Now, I don't believe for a moment that if a person fails to end his prayer with "In Jesus' Name", has a prayer destined for failure to reach Heaven. Often in a time of praise to God (which I believe ought to take the majority of time spent in His Presence, even as the angels do who surround His Throne), we don't cease our praise time with that ending. But I think, that to utter those final words is a confirmation to our own hearts that we have asked for things & approached God's Throne on no better authority than His blessed Son. As well, we say "Amen" (or, 'so be it' or 'let it be so'), as our final 'word' to God, that in faith we believe that we "have the petitions that we desired of Him" (1 John 5:15).
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Luke 17
    Amen, Thanks both of you.
  • Frank King - in Reply on Luke 17
    Excellent reply. Thank you Chris
  • Frank King - in Reply on Luke 17
    I found this devotional by Anne Graham Lotz to be helpful.

    Overshadowed by the Spirit

    The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you.

    Luke 1:35, NIV

    When the angel Gabriel appeared to Mary, he gave her the startling announcement that "the Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God." When you and I place our faith in Jesus Christ and invite Him to come live within us, the Holy Spirit comes upon us, and the power of God overshadows us, and the life of Jesus is born within us. We do not conceive a physical life, but the spiritual life of Jesus in the Person of the Holy Spirit.

    It is the indwelling powerful Person of the Holy Spirit Who sets me free from the habits of sin. But the power I possess to live a life pleasing to God is directly related to how much control of my life I give to the Holy Spirit.

    Blessings,

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  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 17
    So very true. Thank you Frank.
  • Marie on Luke 17
    I know that the Word of God says, that Lot's wife turned into a pillar of salt, what country did this happen in? And how long did the pillar of salt remain? When God gives us instructions, we are to follow it, or else we will get in trouble with God.
  • Deborah Phillips on Luke 17
    Regarding the "day that Son of Man be revealed", what does that really mean. That Jesus Christ really is our Lord and Savior even to the Jews?
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 17
    That reference in Luke 17:30, refers to the Second Coming of Jesus (i.e. when He is revealed to those on Earth). As you read the verses (22-37), you will see that Jesus was speaking to His disciples about what things will be like prior to His coming.
  • Joseph DeFile on Luke 17
    In Luke 17;20 Jesus is speaking about the son of man in his day at the end times as if this son of man is different from Jesus or am I not reading this correctly?also I have noticed that in the beginning of the Bible God created everything all the people all the animals all the plants and then lord god is with Adam and Eve and their roll in the world as chosen for lord god to show a separate group of people their own personal history and if these people wanted to take part in having a companion from the other group that would be acceptable but I'm not at all sure about how I read into these things thank you for your help.
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 17
    Jesus often spoke of Himself as Son of Man as He sometimes referred to Himself as Son of God. He was correct in doing so, as He was both: He was the Word of God made flesh (man) John 1:1-14 and He was also a Man (by that same reference & the account of His human birth: Matthew 1:20-25). For His Own reasons, Jesus used these designations interchangeably depending on who He was speaking to & in what context. In any case, those that heard His teachings & saw His miracles knew that Jesus' claim to be the Son of God was clear & specific. Even at the cross, they cried out to Him, "If Thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross" (Matthew 27:40).

    Adam & Eve were our first parents & it wasn't until a specific calling (of Abraham) that a holy line of people began to form. True, of the sons of Noah (i.e. prior to Abraham), Shem was elected to be the forefather of the later nation of Israel. And from Shem, Abraham came & became the promise of being the father of a great nation (Genesis 12:1-3) & of many nations (Genesis 17:1-5). As the nation of Israel grew in number & expanded by conquering opposing lands, they began to intermarry with the Canaanite nations, when clearly forbidden to do so by God: Deuteronomy 7:1-4; 1 Kings 11:1,2; Nehemiah 13:3, 23-27. Therefore, I feel that there are no pure Jews today; even though some would have stayed true to the Word of God, maybe their children (even a few) chose to intermarry, then that purity would continue to diminish over succeeding generations. I hope that is what you were seeking to know Joseph.
  • Hm on Luke 17
    Matthew 7:13

    "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat

    Matthew 7:14

    "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

    Psalms 119:105

    Matthew 25:21

    Psalms 118 19-23
  • Jeanette on Luke 17
    How do I know when the church is rejecting me and God is maybe leading me to another church?
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 17
    Jeanette, I'm unsure how you are discerning that your Church is rejecting you. Are they avoiding you or speaking against you? Maybe, you have shared something to the pastor or people that is in conflict with the Church's teaching? Unless, you know the reason for this 'rejection', it would be hard to suggest whether it is God's direction for you to move you away or otherwise.

    If however, you are in a Church that is not preaching correctly from the Word, & even after you bringing up the matter with the elders of the Church, you are being shunned or spoken against, then it would be high time for you to leave & seek out a Bible-believing, Christ-centred Fellowship. But unless we have some specifics as to what has taken place at your Church, then we couldn't give you correct advice - it would be advice based on suppositions.
  • Jeanette - in Reply on Luke 17
    When my pastor left his previous large church as assistant pastor, he told us that God told him it was time to move. He had gotten married right before I left.We called him the walking bible. He taught the ministers who now have gone on and started their own church. We learn the teachings of Jesus to the Apostles and baptize in the name of Jesus. I had left the church before they did. When I found out that my pastor had his own church I immediately joined knowing the teachings. The few of us was called the faithfull twelve. A year later the pastor asked me to be a Sunday school teacher because of how the children learned. I would recruit many neighborhood inner city children and taught songs at my house with my children. I always wanted an army of chidren. I wasn't very excite to teach like a job but I obeyed anyway. It was so depressing at times, because all my student were ages 2yrs to 13 years old in one class. Also some were on medicine. Although I continued I had the gift of teaching, singing, encouragemnt, organization all to help build the churh with joy. I was confused when the pastors wife told everyone that she was the pastor whenever he wasn't around. When he would tell me to do one thing, she would catch me down the hall and say do something else. When I tried to do what the pastor says she began to despise me. One time she got me in a room and rolled her neck and told me that she knew that I didn't like women pastors and that I hate her. I cried and told her that I didn't know what she was talking about and asked why was she doing that to me. Anyway a year are more while confused, pastor told me that he wanted to bless me and that the congregation agreed. For such a long time he begins to call me evangelist which slip off of his tongue often. He said that God has let him know due to the work that I do by deffinition. When his wife son repented and joined the church I was treated with such ruddness and pastor began to treat me diferently. It was so evil.
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 17
    Page 2.

    I would probably first air this matter out with the pastor - have a private talk in his offices & preferably with another Church leader as witness, so that your observations, concerns & fears may be brought to him. How he responds to this & the changes that take place subsequent to your meeting, should guide you for your future within that congregation. I can see that you do value the ministry there, but these subtle goings on, can be unnerving & impede your ministry & personal growth. I'm sure you've brought all this before the Lord & would expect that the pastor would do likewise so that all parties can agree that only the Lord can bring clarity, focus & healing.

    May the Lord truly guide you in this & give you His Peace & direction for the days ahead.


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