Luke Chapter 14 Discussion



 
  • Jesse - in Reply on Luke 14
    Billy,

    In Luke 14:34, When it says salt is good, the word good means useful. In those days, salt was a preservative. You put salt on things rather than refrigeration to keep it from putrefying. But if salt does not contain the proper ingredients, what is it good for?

    Verse 35 says "It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."



    And I've seen pictures of wagons going through the streets of Jerusalem and salt is alongside of the road where the people just come out and just throw it out in the street.



    It is not good for anything. Once salt loses its seasoning and it doesn't serve its purpose, it's no longer effective, or useful. Do you see what Jesus is saying?



    He is saying here's the reason why I tell you all of these hard things. Because if your life is so entangled with the cares of this life, to where your life is no longer effective for Christ, we are good for nothing. Now our family might not agree with that. Oh you are good for something. Give me a few minutes and I'll think of something!

    You see, we were created by the Creator for His purposes. But if my life gets so entangled with the things of this earthly life, where my life is no longer effective for Christ, where I can no longer say with the apostle Paul that whether I will live or whether I die may Christ be magnified in my body.



    If I can no longer say that, I am really good for nothing. There will be nothing eternal, and nothing that represents the truth.



    People around me won't see Christ in me, and they won't see my love for Him, my dedication to Him. They won't see my sacrifice and the surrender of my life to Him. They might see the Jesus sticker on my car, but I am "too busy" doing other things to follow him. The salt will be good for nothing, not even to pour on the dung hill.
  • David - in Reply on Luke 14
    Hi Billy Luke 14:35+36 In eastern culture households had containers of salt for preserving food and seasoning, but when it rained or if the salt

    became contaminated it was rendered useless i.e. like dung. Gods words are salted or pure when we allow things of the world to

    break down the words in oiur lives we become useless. thats why we need to continually put it on and stay fresh spiritually in

    our walk with God. Look up all things pertaining to salt in eastern culture in the bible very enlightening. Also Jesus Christ many

    times explained spiritual truth according to the manner and custom of eastern culture and life.
  • Billy Shifflett on Luke 14
    In this text Luke 14:35 why was salt used on dunghills?
  • Arthur Minor on Luke 14
    Luke 14 Vers 26
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 14
    This passage is often used to provoke us to witness but in fact it's a sad declaration to the Jews (& specifically to those around Jesus at meal-time). The message of Luke 14:16-24 was an indictment against the Jews about their rejection of God's Message & Provision of salvation. One said in verse 15, "Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God", believing in the special position that only the Jews enjoyed & to be in God's Kingdom. Jesus then went about to show him that that position was now untenable because of their rejection of the Messiah of God.

    So, in the parable, the invited guests represent the Jewish people. The Kingdom was prepared for them & Jesus came preaching that the Kingdom of Heaven was near ( Matthew 4:17), but they had rejected Him & His Messiahship ( John 1:11). And of course, all types of excuses were given to discount Jesus' claim & works.

    Thus the invitation (of God) went out to those whom the Jews considered as outcasts & unclean (the Gentiles), that we in our miserable state of ignorance of God's Holy Demands, would be given the opportunity to salvation which the Jews despised. As Hosea 2:23 says, "I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God".

    Even as Paul declared in Acts 13:46,47, "It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth." We may not all be missionaries in our calling, or standing on street corners warning every man, but we are called to be witnesses of God's Grace reaching out to those who have never heard. In the most part, we as Christians, have failed to be God's Light & Hope in this dark & desperate world.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Luke 14
    Hi Dgjot.

    Listen here at Paul.

    1 Corinthians 3:6-7. I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

    So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

    Maybe the World needs a little watering.

    "Smile"

    God bless.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Luke 14
    Dgjot,

    I agree with what you are saying.

    Although witnessing Christ to others is a good thing, no one should put a heavy burden on us to do so. There are some who even say that Jesus would have come back by now if we believers were out there "doing our jobs."

    It should never be about putting a guilt trip on a believer to get out and do their job so that everyone will be reached.

    Besides, John 1:9 tells us that the whole world has already been reached.

    The word, the Logos, enlightens every person coming into the world. Every single human being born into this earthly life will be enlightened by God to the truth.



    There will not be one person that will stand before God that will ever say "Hey I didn't know anything about it." Here is why. I'll give you three scriptures.



    Psalm 19:1-4 says that creation, the language of creation goes throughout the world. There is no language that does not understand the language of creation. And creation speaks of the Creator.



    So much so that in Romans 1:19-20, the apostle Paul even says that what is known of God is clearly manifest as God reveals the truth of the invisible God to every person.

    Romans 10:18 is a verse people will use to motivate Christians to help support missionary work around the world. Unfortunately some stop at Verse 17 when it says faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

    "So we have got to get the word of God out there and reach those people."

    Except in Verse 18 Paul says, but I say have they not heard? Yes they have. Their sound went out into all the earth and their words unto the ends of the world.

    So it's not up to us to reach everyone. In the book of Revelation, we are told of God's plan to reach every single person.

    There will be the two witnesses, an angel will be flying around in mid-heaven for 3-1/2 years warning everyone.

    And there will also be 144,000 Jews who will be evangelizing and reaching the list. So God has it pretty much covered!
  • What Is The Bema Seat Judgment of Christ Jesus - in Reply on Luke 14
    Matthew 25:33-46

    33 And he shall set the sheep on his RIGHT HAND, but the goats on the left.

    34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

    35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

    36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

    37 Then shall THE RIGHTEOUS answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

    38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

    39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

    40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto ME.

    41 Then shall he say also unto them on THE LEFT HAND (goats)

    Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

    42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me NO meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me NO drink:

    43 I was a stranger, and ye took me NOT in: naked, and ye clothed me NOT: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me NOT.

    44 Then shall they (the goats) also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and DID NOT minister unto thee???

    45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it NOT to one of the least of these, ye did it NOT to me.

    46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

    Comment by Mishael: this is not a call to get all wrapped up into a "Works Only" mentality.

    This a means to worship Jesus, and love him. He asks us to do this.

    At the Bema Seat, Rewards will be given out to the Believers, by Jesus.
  • Dgjot on Luke 14
    Luke 14:

    21So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind.

    22And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room.

    23And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.

    24For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

    Some people read this and say it's our job to witness to everyone/anyone. And this is 2021.

    This isn't like it was the days before the scriptures were compiled into a book that everyone could read. (the 1611 KJV)

    The invention of printing press made it so many copies could be printed and everyone could have one. Then came the telegraph, the telephone, the radio, television, the personal computer and satellites. The Gospel has been preached to every nation in every language. Everyone has heard about the Gospel of Jesus at SOME time in their life. So why are we still required to "witnesss"/spread the Gospel????
  • Juliana JooSabba - in Reply on Luke 14
    About this longevity, About Moses. Typological errors in the bible or could be from SATAN WHO BENT HIS LIFE TO CONFUSE THE CHILDREN OF GOD OR THE WORK OF THE

    Type setters or type writers made of iron and have no life in themselves, so they can make mistakes.

    The original scripts were Holy Spirit guided by d writers who were Holy Spirit filled then.

    I show u one example from the Bible and work it out itself

    Moses and d Israelites

    God told Abraham

    Genesis 15.13

    13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years

    Moses appeared before Pharaoh at 80 years old

    King James Bible

    And Moses was fourscore years old, and Aaron fourscore and three years old, when they spoke to Pharaoh

    In Exodus 12:40 we read: The dwellings of the children of Israel that they dwelt in Egypt were 430 years. Verse 41 reiterates that after 430 years all the legions of God left Egypt. The verse seems to be stating a non-debatable historical fact. That is, that the Children of Israel were in Egypt for 430 years before their Exodus.

    (Q) 7 Moses was a hundred and twenty years old(R) when he died, yet his eyes were not weak(S) nor his strength gone.(T) 8 The Israelites grieved for Moses in the plains of Moab(U) thirty days,(V) until the time of weeping and mourning(W) was over.

    Work it out ur self

    If the Israeli completed 400 years according to God in Genesis 15.13

    Then they spent another 30 years for whatever it was. Which Moses spent with them after God sent him to pharaoh and he was 80 years old when he appeared before Pharaoh, died at 120 years, how can this be right except for typography error. I didn't know this but d Holy Spirit highlighted it to me. There r many of these errors in d bible, it only takes d Holy Spirit to point it out to u when u need them.

    Work of the Holy Spirit to remind us what has past, present and future John chapter 16.
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 14
    The Bible doesn't specifically tell us how the drop in human longevity changed from the large numbers you read of in Genesis chapter 5, to smaller numbers as you progressively go through that Book & into the rest of biblical history.

    We can assume that when God created humans, He intended that we live forever. When Adam & Eve sinned, not only their hearts became sin-tainted, but their intimate walk with God (i.e. their relationship) was affected & the duration of their earthly existence was shortened. Even though Adam lived for 930 years (& Eve possibly for a similar duration), even that was abnormal.

    Then we come to Noah & the Great Flood that wiped away all living creatures, except Noah & his family. I should say, that the reference to 120 years in Genesis 6:3 is often taken as 'God's shortening of man's ages to 120 years, however, that actually is a reference to the time God gave to man before he would be wiped off the Earth because of his unrestrained sin. So these great ages of humans continued until the Flood. Post Flood: ages began to reduce as we see in Noah's son, Shem ( Genesis 11:10 ff) & others in history, but this wasn't the rule.

    So, it's understood that with a possible defective gene in Noah/his wife that was subsequently passed onto his son's & then down the line to us, the effects of sin that had increasingly affected our bodies, & even our changing conditions (chemical levels in the atmosphere, diet, mental/emotional stability, life's complications bringing on pressures, etc.) could well have contributed to a much shorter life span. In Psalm 90:9,10, Moses states: "The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow". Though Moses himself lived for many more years than 70, 120 years in fact, he probably envisaged that man's days 'were numbered' & if we should live beyond 70, life would get more difficult, finally extracting our final breath.
  • Rene on Luke 14
    Age in the bible must be different than now.seeing as how some people lived to be 500 years old...what is that. I just do not understand
  • Wenmar - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Yvonne, you must forgive! In my experience, the best way is to pray for that person when feelings of hatred set in. Truth be told, a Christian won't wish hell on their worst enemy, you know in your heart that Jesus died for this person, how can you then not forgive them? Forgiveness can become a wonderful habit, which is beneficial to your own spirit and is healthy for your body as well. God Bless.
  • Mark Briggsford - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Not one of you understands this. Jesus Christ said you will be hated by all, and that is the sign of a true prophet. If you don't hate even your own life...?

    If you don't pick up your Cross daily...?

    Jesus Christ never told anyone to hate anything but evil.
  • Frank Garcia - in Reply on Luke 14
    It seems like a terrible it ? But for Christians it means we put Jesus before anything .
  • Nargis Gul on Luke 14
    What is the meaning of Luke 14:26. very disturbing is this Jesus says, I don't think so.

    why someone put this in the bible make no sense to me.
  • Bryan Andrews on Luke 14:15
    It would be share joy for a poor man to have supper with a king in his palace. It sure makes that poor man very important. It would be a joy a person who lacks the world goods, etc. to sup with Jesus in his kingdom.
  • Debra - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    thank you God Bless You as well
  • Mishael - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Matthew 18

    19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

    20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

    22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

    There's a movie you can get through Walmart or amazon: it's about a man whose daughter was kidnapped and murdered. He was very bitter Against God.

    He returns where it happened. He was about to commit suicide and a deer walks past the door. He decides to leave but sees a man off the side. Thinking it is the murderer returning, he draws a gun on him. It's Jesus. The whole weekend is about him forgiving God.

    If you're having trouble forgiving go get a movie named The Shack. Your life will be changed.
  • Wisdom and Folly Mishael on Luke 14:26
    This for people studying Genesis. I took this route to study and it really opens up some things. I'm not done yet.

    If you go to Genesis and as you read along; INSERT the Center of the Page references to other scripture. All the way down each page. Go to the other Books. Read that and also other scripture references from those pages.

    The cast out angels became evil like Satan; more like servants to him. They had bodies.

    They were drowned after the flood with Noah's ark. Their bodies were gone. They lived on as demons; until now. They have to get inside a sinful human or animals.

    God was already recording genealogy that Jesus would be born in the future.

    Archaeology has confirmed the Bible. A lot of the giants bones have been confirmed faked; but others are carbon dated and creepy! What people thought was thousands of years was really millions+

    This is what I decided for ME about this. I could read books till I'm 80, to piece archaeology, geology and space exploration, or I can do what God has called me to do.

    I choose God.

    The earth scientists haven't made the connection To the Bible. There are no books, no attempts to connect so I'm thinking we should leave it alone till they do.

    It's good to the understanding of what God calls invisible; mystery. We can understand what satans trying to do to the saints of God; Invisible spiritual warfare; demons and people who welcome them into their lives and bodies. We can't even get started until we understand what is our authority against these things! We need the Holy Spirit to tell us the names, their fruit, the demonic personality. They're all unclean.

    You can't proceed full steam WITHOUT The Holy Spirits leadership. I've had some experience with it and I can say with conviction; it's not a haunted house with scary exhibits.

    We have the authority. Learn how to use it: in Jesus's NAME. Especially in the last days.

    Watch some Charles Capps, youtube.

    Authority of Believers
  • Yvonne McCullar on Luke 14:26
    What if one dies but has never forgiven someone for what they did.
  • Ct - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Debra I saw these numbers as well for years. I searched for years on end for understanding. My advice is to not research them online as you will be lead to Doreen Virtue and new agers who speak of angel numbers. If you awaken at one of these times in the middle of the night immediately pray. If during the day what was in your heart before you saw the number? Was it anxiety and sin? Is their repetitive sin within your life? If so get right with God and The WORD. Do not fear. Do not accept the anxiety. Pray. Praise Jesus in his name. As stated there is no scripture to provide us an answer. I can only provide my personal opinion and I stayed semi shallow here. When God calls, answer. Repent. Change.

    May God Bless You
  • WHAT DOES GOD LOOK LIKE - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    God is Spirit. There are MANY scriptures on God being seen. If you read it slowly, you will see the description is in imagery.

    Go get some pen & paper and write down these scriptures; then you can read them and picture God in your heart when you pray.

    John 1:18, John 6:46, John 5:37

    1 John 4:12, 1 John 3:6, 1 John 4:20

    1 Timothy 1:17, 1 Timothy 6:16

    Luke 1:31-32, Matthew 22, Romans 1:20

    Philippians 2, Hebrews 1:1-13,

    Colossians 1:15

    Deuteronomy 4:12, 15. Exodus 3:6

    Exodus 33:20-23

    Isaiah 38:11, Isaiah 64:4

    Job 9:11, Job 35:14, Job 23:8

    This is a ps from me: if you have "pictures of God" (some artist imagined) in your home? You need to get rid of them,

    According to Exodus 20. That's not a photograph of God and is considered to be a graven image. Crosses on the wall is ok, but not images.

    I have 1 still life painting of a bowl of fruit and a pitcher of water. It makes me think of eating a meal with Jesus.

    Mishael
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Thanks for your input here; indeed, this is a great place to visit to maybe learn more of God's Word or even to share your thoughts & revelations from the Spirit. Though our discussions can get quite 'spirited' at times, hopefully keeping them in the bounds of holiness & decency. I too have used KJBOnline often, as my 'Go To' when working on a message at my desk, but became interested further when checking out the Discussions Tab: a great way to share, learn & even unknowingly, helping someone struggling in their faith - it can become quite an effective ministry if soaked in prayer & the Spirit's guidance. The Lord bless you too & trust that your eye issue will be sorted out.
  • Adam - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Spirit. John 4:24. God bless you.
  • Jill R Williams on Luke 14:26
    Is God a Spirit or human
  • I7sharp - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Chris, what a "coincidence" that, while I was going through a few threads with some concern about the health of my left eye, I came upon your

    x-

    However, thinking further on your plight, I also have something similar happening to me. However, mine is a medical matter with the eyes which I've had since I was a kid:

    -x

    This is the very first time, I think, that I have read through discussions here although I have visited kingjamesbibleonline.org many, many times for some time now.

    I could sense that you are a very gentle soul and that was, mainly, what prompted me to post this comment.

    By the way, I have come to this part of the forum, some minutes after I had started looking for commentaries on "the islands of the sea" ( Isaiah 11:11).

    God bless you. Have a blessed day!
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Debra, no the Bible doesn't say anything about those numbers you've listed, except for the number you missed: 666. This is found in Revelation 13:18 referring to the number of Man, which relates to the mark of the coming Anti-Christ.

    However, thinking further on your plight, I also have something similar happening to me. However, mine is a medical matter with the eyes which I've had since I was a kid: whenever I look at the sky or the ceiling in a room, I see black spots of different shapes & sizes & they all continuously move around. I asked my optometrist about this, & she called them 'floaters', & some people have them. Maybe you need to make an appointment with one to check your eyes for this, as well as your peripheral vision, glaucoma, macula degeneration, etc. & rule out this phenomenon. But I don't see any numbers - that sounds a little weird.
  • Christian - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    All the globetards always go to that scripture. Wrong! A circle is NOT a sphere or ball.

    Over 200+ scriptures, tell of the foundations of the earth and they CANNOT be moved,

    and the 4 corners of the earth, ect. I have been a born again Christian for 40+ years.

    I have been studying the TRUE biblical flat earth FACT for at least the past 5. Step

    outside the Luciferian Lies you been brainwashed and indoctrinated and brainwashed

    into believing. Repent and do some REAL research.


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