Luke Chapter 14 Discussion

  • Rene on Luke 14
    Age in the bible must be different than now.seeing as how some people lived to be 500 years old...what is that. I just do not understand
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 14
    The Bible doesn't specifically tell us how the drop in human longevity changed from the large numbers you read of in Genesis chapter 5, to smaller numbers as you progressively go through that Book & into the rest of biblical history.

    We can assume that when God created humans, He intended that we live forever. When Adam & Eve sinned, not only their hearts became sin-tainted, but their intimate walk with God (i.e. their relationship) was affected & the duration of their earthly existence was shortened. Even though Adam lived for 930 years (& Eve possibly for a similar duration), even that was abnormal.

    Then we come to Noah & the Great Flood that wiped away all living creatures, except Noah & his family. I should say, that the reference to 120 years in Genesis 6:3 is often taken as 'God's shortening of man's ages to 120 years, however, that actually is a reference to the time God gave to man before he would be wiped off the Earth because of his unrestrained sin. So these great ages of humans continued until the Flood. Post Flood: ages began to reduce as we see in Noah's son, Shem (Genesis 11:10 ff) & others in history, but this wasn't the rule.

    So, it's understood that with a possible defective gene in Noah/his wife that was subsequently passed onto his son's & then down the line to us, the effects of sin that had increasingly affected our bodies, & even our changing conditions (chemical levels in the atmosphere, diet, mental/emotional stability, life's complications bringing on pressures, etc.) could well have contributed to a much shorter life span. In Psalm 90:9,10, Moses states: "The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow". Though Moses himself lived for many more years than 70 years in fact, he probably envisaged that man's days 'were numbered' & if we should live beyond 70, life would get more difficult, finally extracting our final breath.
  • Juliana JooSabba - in Reply on Luke 14
    About this longevity, About Moses. Typological errors in the bible or could be from SATAN WHO BENT HIS LIFE TO CONFUSE THE CHILDREN OF GOD OR THE WORK OF THE

    Type setters or type writers made of iron and have no life in themselves, so they can make mistakes.

    The original scripts were Holy Spirit guided by d writers who were Holy Spirit filled then.

    I show u one example from the Bible and work it out itself

    Moses and d Israelites

    God told Abraham

    Genesis 15.13

    13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years

    Moses appeared before Pharaoh at 80 years old

    King James Bible

    And Moses was fourscore years old, and Aaron fourscore and three years old, when they spoke to Pharaoh

    In Exodus 12:40 we read: The dwellings of the children of Israel that they dwelt in Egypt were 430 years. Verse 41 reiterates that after 430 years all the legions of God left Egypt. The verse seems to be stating a non-debatable historical fact. That is, that the Children of Israel were in Egypt for 430 years before their Exodus.

    (Q) 7 Moses was a hundred and twenty years old(R) when he died, yet his eyes were not weak(S) nor his strength gone.(T) 8 The Israelites grieved for Moses in the plains of Moab(U) thirty days,(V) until the time of weeping and mourning(W) was over.

    Work it out ur self

    If the Israeli completed 400 years according to God in Genesis 15.13

    Then they spent another 30 years for whatever it was. Which Moses spent with them after God sent him to pharaoh and he was 80 years old when he appeared before Pharaoh, died at 120 years, how can this be right except for typography error. I didn't know this but d Holy Spirit highlighted it to me. There r many of these errors in d bible, it only takes d Holy Spirit to point it out to u when u need them.

    Work of the Holy Spirit to remind us what has past, present and future John chapter 16.
  • Nargis Gul on Luke 14
    What is the meaning of Luke 14:26. very disturbing is this Jesus says, I don't think so.

    why someone put this in the bible make no sense to me.
  • Frank Garcia - in Reply on Luke 14
    It seems like a terrible it ? But for Christians it means we put Jesus before anything .
  • Bryan Andrews on Luke 14:15
    It would be share joy for a poor man to have supper with a king in his palace. It sure makes that poor man very important. It would be a joy a person who lacks the world goods, etc. to sup with Jesus in his kingdom.
  • Wisdom and Folly Mishael on Luke 14:26
    This for people studying Genesis. I took this route to study and it really opens up some things. I'm not done yet.

    If you go to Genesis and as you read along; INSERT the Center of the Page references to other scripture. All the way down each page. Go to the other Books. Read that and also other scripture references from those pages.

    The cast out angels became evil like Satan; more like servants to him. They had bodies.

    They were drowned after the flood with Noah's ark. Their bodies were gone. They lived on as demons; until now. They have to get inside a sinful human or animals.

    God was already recording genealogy that Jesus would be born in the future.

    Archaeology has confirmed the Bible. A lot of the giants bones have been confirmed faked; but others are carbon dated and creepy! What people thought was thousands of years was really millions+

    This is what I decided for ME about this. I could read books till I'm 80, to piece archaeology, geology and space exploration, or I can do what God has called me to do.

    I choose God.

    The earth scientists haven't made the connection To the Bible. There are no books, no attempts to connect so I'm thinking we should leave it alone till they do.

    It's good to the understanding of what God calls invisible; mystery. We can understand what satans trying to do to the saints of God; Invisible spiritual warfare; demons and people who welcome them into their lives and bodies. We can't even get started until we understand what is our authority against these things! We need the Holy Spirit to tell us the names, their fruit, the demonic personality. They're all unclean.

    You can't proceed full steam WITHOUT The Holy Spirits leadership. I've had some experience with it and I can say with conviction; it's not a haunted house with scary exhibits.

    We have the authority. Learn how to use it: in Jesus's NAME. Especially in the last days.

    Watch some Charles Capps, youtube.

    Authority of Believers
  • Mark Briggsford - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Not one of you understands this. Jesus Christ said you will be hated by all, and that is the sign of a true prophet. If you don't hate even your own life...?

    If you don't pick up your Cross daily...?

    Jesus Christ never told anyone to hate anything but evil.
  • Yvonne McCullar on Luke 14:26
    What if one dies but has never forgiven someone for what they did.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Matthew 18

    19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

    20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

    22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

    There's a movie you can get through Walmart or amazon: it's about a man whose daughter was kidnapped and murdered. He was very bitter Against God.

    He returns where it happened. He was about to commit suicide and a deer walks past the door. He decides to leave but sees a man off the side. Thinking it is the murderer returning, he draws a gun on him. It's Jesus. The whole weekend is about him forgiving God.

    If you're having trouble forgiving go get a movie named The Shack. Your life will be changed.
  • Wenmar - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Yvonne, you must forgive! In my experience, the best way is to pray for that person when feelings of hatred set in. Truth be told, a Christian won't wish hell on their worst enemy, you know in your heart that Jesus died for this person, how can you then not forgive them? Forgiveness can become a wonderful habit, which is beneficial to your own spirit and is healthy for your body as well. God Bless.
  • Jill R Williams on Luke 14:26
    Is God a Spirit or human
  • WHAT DOES GOD LOOK LIKE - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    God is Spirit. There are MANY scriptures on God being seen. If you read it slowly, you will see the description is in imagery.

    Go get some pen & paper and write down these scriptures; then you can read them and picture God in your heart when you pray.

    John 1:18, John 6:46, John 5:37

    1 John 4:12, 1 John 3:6, 1 John 4:20

    1 Timothy 1:17, 1 Timothy 6:16

    Luke 1:31-32, Matthew 22, Romans 1:20

    Philippians 2, Hebrews 1:1-13,

    Colossians 1:15

    Deuteronomy 4:12, 15. Exodus 3:6

    Exodus 33:20-23

    Isaiah 38:11, Isaiah 64:4

    Job 9:11, Job 35:14, Job 23:8

    This is a ps from me: if you have "pictures of God" (some artist imagined) in your home? You need to get rid of them,

    According to Exodus 20. That's not a photograph of God and is considered to be a graven image. Crosses on the wall is ok, but not images.

    I have 1 still life painting of a bowl of fruit and a pitcher of water. It makes me think of eating a meal with Jesus.

  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
  • Adam - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Spirit. John 4:24. God bless you.
  • Debra on Luke 14:26
    does anything in the bible say anything about seeing 111 or

    1111,211,311,411,511,611,711,exct... ive been seing them since i started to read the bible and then i look in the sky and see circle and cross in the middle shape all the time. i dont know what is happening to me. i need help i been searching for 3 years now and cant find anyone to give me an answer. please help me if you can?
  • Ct - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Debra I saw these numbers as well for years. I searched for years on end for understanding. My advice is to not research them online as you will be lead to Doreen Virtue and new agers who speak of angel numbers. If you awaken at one of these times in the middle of the night immediately pray. If during the day what was in your heart before you saw the number? Was it anxiety and sin? Is their repetitive sin within your life? If so get right with God and The WORD. Do not fear. Do not accept the anxiety. Pray. Praise Jesus in his name. As stated there is no scripture to provide us an answer. I can only provide my personal opinion and I stayed semi shallow here. When God calls, answer. Repent. Change.

    May God Bless You
  • Debra - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    thank you God Bless You as well
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Debra, no the Bible doesn't say anything about those numbers you've listed, except for the number you missed: 666. This is found in Revelation 13:18 referring to the number of Man, which relates to the mark of the coming Anti-Christ.

    However, thinking further on your plight, I also have something similar happening to me. However, mine is a medical matter with the eyes which I've had since I was a kid: whenever I look at the sky or the ceiling in a room, I see black spots of different shapes & sizes & they all continuously move around. I asked my optometrist about this, & she called them 'floaters', & some people have them. Maybe you need to make an appointment with one to check your eyes for this, as well as your peripheral vision, glaucoma, macula degeneration, etc. & rule out this phenomenon. But I don't see any numbers - that sounds a little weird.
  • I7sharp - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Chris, what a "coincidence" that, while I was going through a few threads with some concern about the health of my left eye, I came upon your


    However, thinking further on your plight, I also have something similar happening to me. However, mine is a medical matter with the eyes which I've had since I was a kid:


    This is the very first time, I think, that I have read through discussions here although I have visited many, many times for some time now.

    I could sense that you are a very gentle soul and that was, mainly, what prompted me to post this comment.

    By the way, I have come to this part of the forum, some minutes after I had started looking for commentaries on "the islands of the sea" (Isaiah 11:11).

    God bless you. Have a blessed day!
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Thanks for your input here; indeed, this is a great place to visit to maybe learn more of God's Word or even to share your thoughts & revelations from the Spirit. Though our discussions can get quite 'spirited' at times, hopefully keeping them in the bounds of holiness & decency. I too have used KJBOnline often, as my 'Go To' when working on a message at my desk, but became interested further when checking out the Discussions Tab: a great way to share, learn & even unknowingly, helping someone struggling in their faith - it can become quite an effective ministry if soaked in prayer & the Spirit's guidance. The Lord bless you too & trust that your eye issue will be sorted out.
  • Christian - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    More and more Christians are waking up to the true biblical flat earth FACT, backed

    up and supported by 200+ scriptures and common sense. We do NOT live on that

    fake, spinning ball, satanic deception, anti scriptural, Luciferian, Pagan, globe hoax,

    most were brainwashed and indoctrinated into believing. Praise the Lord God almighty!
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    Flat earth? Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the CIRCLE circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;........ a pancake?

    Is the moon also flat? Believe in Jesus and the flat earth and thou shalt be saved?

    Is this something to really argue over?
  • Christian - in Reply on Luke 14:26
    All the globetards always go to that scripture. Wrong! A circle is NOT a sphere or ball.

    Over 200+ scriptures, tell of the foundations of the earth and they CANNOT be moved,

    and the 4 corners of the earth, ect. I have been a born again Christian for 40+ years.

    I have been studying the TRUE biblical flat earth FACT for at least the past 5. Step

    outside the Luciferian Lies you been brainwashed and indoctrinated and brainwashed

    into believing. Repent and do some REAL research.
  • JoJo on Luke 14
    Thank you for reply Luke 4 and 35. Growing up in church with Gods love and protection, I did sing This Little Light Of Mine. I pray Jesus will continue to be our light for all eternity. God Bless.
  • Jo, jo on Luke 14
    In LUKE Ch. 14 verse 34 and 35 what does the salt mean, when it has lost it's flavor?
  • Jesse - in Reply on Luke 14
    Jo, jo

    The word good in V. 34 means useful. In those days, salt was a preservative. They put salt on things to keep it from putrefying. But if salt does not contain the proper ingredients, what is it good for? Jesus talks about salt and light in Matt 5:13-16. He says, "You are the salt of the earth." At this point and time in experiencing the fullness of God, He says, YOU ARE the salt of the earth. And then He says, "YOU ARE the light of the world." Salt was used for two things. It was used as a preservative. They used it to preserve food, especially meat and vegetables. They also used it for purification. In 2 Kings 2:19-23, salt was used to purify bad water.

    But to know why He used the term salt, we need to understand that God made a covenant of salt with Israel (Numbers 18:19), which God said would be upon David and his descendants. Paul in Romans Chapter 11 said all of the Jews of the Kingdom. In Matt 5:14-16, Jesus says you are salt and you are light. He went on to say that you can't take a light and put it under a bushel.

    What He is saying is you can't snuff out the light of the Lord. The light amongst the Jews was the Messiah. You are salt. Christ in you is the light, and Christ in you is the purification and the preservative for the people around you and especially in your life.

    The command is let your light so shine. Did you ever sing that song "This little light of mine, not going to let anybody blow it out? It can't be blown out. Nobody can blow it out. The command itself, (let your light so shine) kind of sounds like an invitation. But literally, it is "Shine your light," which is a command of God. Shine your light! I don't have to worry about going out to my car to find the light because the Lord said for me to shine it. Israel was said to be the light of the world. Isaiah 42:6, Isaiah 49:6, and Isaiah 60:3 says that the Jews were to be the salt and the light of the world.
  • Mountainman on Luke 14:26
    If you don't see imperfection in yourself and those around you, then you will not be able to learn from him.
  • Zakhar on Luke 14
    Verse 28 is obviously Jesus mocking the tower of Babylon pointing to it whose king was transformed into a beast eating the flowers and pastures of the earth but modern theives contemplate this to be a monetary issue taking peoples money from them.
  • Obbie Beal on Luke 14
    34, Jesus knew, because of sin we became unfit and useless for GOD s purpose. We lost the purpose we were created for, see Ecclesiastes 12:13. But GOD through Jesus, see John 3:16-21, again makes available GOD s purpose available to you and I, plus, through Jesus SALVATION is available to us., thereby we can be at the Marriage-Supper-Of-the-Lamb, Revelation 19:9.

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