Luke Chapter 12 Discussion



 
  • Simon lamptey on Luke 12:24
    This chapter makes me aware that God have great care and attention for we humanbeings. Thank you Lord
  • Marke on Luke 12:10
    Luke 12:47

    And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

    All sins are not the same and do not merit the same punishment. Willful sins are more serious than sins of ignorance, as demonstrated in Luke 12:47. God does not judge sins of ignorance as seriously as willful sins, as shown in Acts 17:30.

    Acts 17:30

    And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
  • COMING ALONGSIDE - in Reply on Luke 12:32
    I'm praying God will supply all of your needs. I know how hard it is to raise a child alone. Maybe someday someone will help you do that. The scripture encourages us to be closer to Jesus's Body for support.

    One day I was sitting at an open window doing bills and I heard the children outside have a conversation about having to spend summers with their other parent ( as in cases of divorce). They labeled theirselves "Divorced Children." It broke my heart. I went outside and ministered the love of Jesus to them. They seemed to accept that "the other parent" loved them too. Loss hurts everyone: grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins. It takes huge effort to share your child with other "family."

    I had to work, and did not want my son alone from 4pm to 530. I budgeted money for a tutor (from my church) to come to my house and help my kid do his homework. It worked out really great, if they finished early, they played catch outside. Dinners were a lot more relaxed.

    This was a 5 day a week gig. You can find tutors at church or through their school office. The tutor would be a high school student who wanted to earn money for college.

    It gets us through choppy waters to where, things are more orderly. Shared routines. I got to do the fun things with my son; spur of the moment stuff. It helps you realize life isn't over. There are possibilities.

    This is what the Body of Christ is here for.

    mishael
  • Suze - in Reply on Luke 12:32
    Stick with Him and He will surely stick with you , much love in Christ .
  • I was very sick and widowed, and I continued to tithe to where the Lord directed me, to those who could not pay me back; And my Lord God has

    not failed to provide for me and my child, Thank you merciful God
  • GiGi again - in Reply on Luke 12
    Nana, How are you doing today. I am thinking of you and you family today. I pray that you will be welcomed into your grandson's life again very soon. Amen
  • GiGi - in Reply on Luke 12
    Dear Nana,

    So sorry you are kept from your grandson. I will pray for you. He is blessed to have a Nana who wants to spend time with him.

    Dear Lord Jesus, please restore this relationship between this grandma and her grandson's parents. We ask this in Jesus' name, Amen.
  • Jackie on Luke 12
    God loves us so much that he died for me let me live for him
  • Jesse - in Reply on Luke 12:10
    Sorry, I meant Luke 12:48!
  • Jesse - in Reply on Luke 12:10
    Dianne,

    Here is the key to understanding Luke 12:10. It says, "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."

    We have seen it so far with Jesus, and the city of Capernaum. He says woe to you Capernaum. And Capernaum was the city that Jesus lived in for three years in His ministry in the north in Galilee before He went to Jerusalem.

    He says woe to you Capernaum, woe to you Bethsaida, the cities around the Sea of Galilee. It will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah. It will be more tolerable than Tyre and Sidon than for you. We all know how corrupt and evil Sodom and Gomorrah were.

    Jesus is saying that there is a degree of punishment and a degree of reward. There will be degrees of punishment in hell, and there will be degrees of rewards in heaven. What Jesus is saying here is that there will be punishment, beating with stripes for those who knew the Lord's will and didn't do it, and less stripes for those who knew it and did it.

    But in our day, we are more blessed today than at any time in church history. We have got the whole Bible. We have got technology where we can study it, and broadcast it, and share it like no other time in history.

    We have more responsibility given to us than any other Christians in church history. We've got it all and we don't have to do it by ourselves. God's Spirit is with us. He uses us. He is the one who ministers through us.

    So it is not stress on us. We only have one thing to think about. Keep our face set toward Jerusalem. Keep our face set towards the mark of the prize of the high calling in Christ Jesus. Keep our minds and our heart set on the finish line.

    That is all we have to do. And if something in the world reaches out to grab us, to distract us, and to pull us off the path, we are to let it go, just let it go. It isn't worth it!
  • Dianne McMillan on Luke 12:10
    I would like to understand Luke 12:48 better. Can someone help me do this?
  • Sacha - in Reply on Luke 12
    BSP you are so right .thankyou ,you remind me that i really must try harder not to allow the things of this life to worry me so much ,thankyou again .
  • Daniel on Luke 12
    I will be a lily in the mire
  • Sisterjw on Luke 12:25
    What May Be of Assistance:

    In order to have a more understanding of the sculpture a Luke 12:25 wonderful study practice is to always read the previous scripture Luke 12:24 and the following 2-3 scriptures Luke 12:26 Luke 12:27 and

    Luke 12:28 which may assist to allow a deeper understanding.

    The thing I really appreciate and like regarding King James Bible Online is the also provide other Bible scripture commentaries from other various Bible Editions featured immediately below the King James others such as:

    New American Standard Version (1995

    American Standard Version (1901)

    Basic English Bible.

    Darby Bible.

    Douay Rheims Bible.

    Webster's Bible.

    Weymouth Bible.

    World English Bible.

    Wycliffe Bible.

    Jewish Publication Society Bible
  • BSP on Luke 12
    The flowers are arrayed in beautiful colors and various designs but these are easy trampled over or die quickly. If Jehovah God take such care of the flowers and in making them beautiful, how much more so will he take care of us who have been made in his image.
  • M - in Reply on Luke 12:10
    It seems to mean the one unforgivable sin is not having the Holy Spirit, because those without the Holy Spirit people don't have their debts paid by the blood of the Lamb. So rejecting God and Jesus's sacrifice in their place is unforgivable because forgiveness is through the blood.

    Once someone accepts Jesus's sacrifice in their place, and puts their faith in Him, that condition no longer exists, and all can be forgiven.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Luke 12:10
    Rebecca, may the Spirit grace you with his understanding.

    Most things in God's word have to be discerned by applying multiple scriptures and all applied against:

    1 John 2:27 But the anointing (Holy Ghost in you) which ye have received (by grace) of him (Holy Ghost) abideth in you, and you NEED NOT THAT ANY MAN TEACH YOU; but as the same anointing (the Holy Ghost) teacheth you ALL things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it (the Holy Ghost) hath taught you, ye shall abide (become one) in him (the Holy Ghost).

    Ephesians 4:21 If so be that ye have HEARD him (the Holy Ghost), and have been taught by him (the Holy Ghost), as the truth is in Jesus (THE WORD OF GOD).

    Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by HEARING, and HEARING by the WORD OF GOD (studying, meditating).

    The scriptures were written by men under the influence of the Holy Ghost.

    Revelation 19:10 .... for the testimony (words) of Jesus (THE WORD) is the spirit of prophecy.

    2 Peter 1:21 For prophecy came.....as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

    Now to your question, what does it mean to blaspheme the Holy Ghost. Since the WORD (truth) was written by the Holy Ghost, you blaspheme when you call his WORD a lie. Example:

    1 Timothy 2:3-4 For this is GOOD AND ACCEPTABLE in the sight of God our Saviour; who WILL HAVE all men to be saved, and come to the KNOWLEDGE of the truth.

    Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, thy WILL BE DONE in earth, as it (HIS WILL) is in heaven.

    1 Timothy 4:10-11 .....who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN, specially those that BELIEVE.

    (vs) 11 These things COMMAND AND TEACH.

    Psalm 22:27 ALL the ends of the world shall REMEMBER and TURN unto the LORD: and ALL KINDREDS OF THE NATIONS SHALL WORSHIP BEFORE THEE.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 And when ALL THINGS shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him (Father) that put ALL THINGS under him (Son) that GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.

    WE all blaspheme on our journey to TRUTH just REPENT and TURN to the new found TRUTH.
  • Rick Mentzer - in Reply on Luke 12:10
    Rebecca this is one of the most misunderstood scriptures in Gods Word, but think about an action against Gods Word an individual cannot be forgiven of, the answer is just as you can be born again of the True God , an individual can be born again of the devil that cannot be reversed an example Jesus Christ when speaking to in John 8:42-44 hes speaking to religious leaders and carefully look at what he says, your father the devil, that an incredible statement God showed him where they were coming from. Which is why he said you will die in your sin. Keep something in mind were talking about an action unforgivable.
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 12:10
    Very simply, it means that the Words of God spoken or the Work of God done in the Power of the Holy Spirit, is being attributed to Satan. This is also what the Jewish leaders were accusing Jesus of: Jesus' claim to be God's Son & His position at God's right Hand ( Matthew 26:63-65). Rather, they were the ones who blasphemed by claiming that Jesus did His miracles under Satanic power ( Matthew 12:22-32).

    Therefore, this should remind us to be careful when judging another's words or work in the Lord's Name - we might just find ourselves speaking against the Lord & the Truth, even if done ignorantly.
  • Rebecca Crabtree on Luke 12:10
    What does blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost mean in the bible?
  • Fred scanlan - in Reply on Luke 12:20
    Raising a family, working a couple jobs, sending kids to a Christian school. working long hrs. turned into more than I knew I needed. We fail to draw the line when it comes to those things that are important and those that are needful! Peace ,love and joy, were not evidence of a thriving family. Sin, poor decisions, unholy friends, only contributed to further dissimulation. The family that loves Jesus first , will be the happiest! Christ first in all things! Rich or poor put Him first!
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 12:20
    In His parable, Jesus was pointing out that a person's heart is either towards God or to mammon (money, goods, pleasures) - Matthew 6:24. This man had no concern for God or God's requirements & indeed his own afterlife - his focus was on himself & to enjoy what he had accomplished by his own hands, constantly watching his wealth becoming even greater in the passing years.

    Had he given God the first place rather than himself, it would have demonstrated that even with his bountiful harvests & substance, he would have acknowledged that it was God Who blessed him with these things, he would have also given of his substance to the needy around him & his own faith & love for God would have increased. I believe, in the Old Covenant economy, this rich man could have been wise in God's Eyes & not foolish, & would have been accepted by God as a man of faith & love for the people around him. Rather than being a self-centred rich 'fool', he would have been a people-centric wise man who was rich towards God having a heart towards God & not self.
  • Padu meshramkar on Luke 12:20
    I enjoyed reading your sermons.What would happened if the rich(fool) would have given God first place in his planning ?
  • Hiwi - in Reply on Luke 12:52
    Thank you, the Israeli household explanation answers my question. God bless!!
  • Bendito Palavra - in Reply on Luke 12:52
    The important point of this lesson is the division that will come, not necessarily the count. Jesus Christ is the great dividing line in humanity, whether we are his or not. We are shown here that even our families and households, where unity is presumed, will not be exempt.

    The list of relationships would be typical of a household in Israel. Father/son, mother/daughter, mother in law/daughter in law. If married, a daughter would then be joined to her husband's household.

    Matthew 10:34-38 is a parallel passage emphasizing that Jesus Christ must be our primary allegiance, above even our closest kin.
  • Hiwi on Luke 12:52
    Why is the number of the family chosen to be 5? Does it represent anything? Any reference from other chapters of the bible?
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 12:10
    Larry, I've also thought over this dilemma as well over the years, and the only answer I can offer is that in fact we all suffer in one form or another. I know you specifically mentioned physical pain & suffering & that is one part of the whole. Sometimes, emotional pain & mental anguish can come under the same umbrella of physical suffering that each one faces in life. And their severity can be as harsh & painful as the physical.

    You may be thinking of a special instance of some going through the mill with pain while others appear to be free from it. As you may agree, since we are all sinners & suffer the effects of it (whether in the physical, spiritual, emotional or mental spheres), I don't believe that anyone can sail through this life without pain in some form. It is true that some do suffer far more than others, but all do suffer & then finally have pain's last stab at us at the cessation of this life.

    The Psalmist, Asaph, in Psalm 73 spoke of a similar dilemma, "Why do the wicked go through life without pain (v 5), speak against God (vv 9, 11) & live in prosperity (v 12)?" His answer: "Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction. How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors." (vv 18, 19). He saw their end (their eternal suffering) as far worse as opposed to those (who suffer in this life) but have their trust in the Lord. So pain experienced in life to the Psalmist was transitory - the pain of being estranged from God after death is eternal.
  • Yla on Luke 12:10
    it is a reminder to us that when we do bad things or sin against the Lord, we will not alone suffer the consequence of our actions, people who are close to us will also suffer. That is the penalty of our sin.

    The person who did the sin will not suffer alone, but also the people around him will suffer.

    It is to remind a person the weight of his sin and for him to think carefully of the action he will do.
  • Larry L Ware on Luke 12:10
    why do some people go through physical pain and suffering and some don't
  • Joshua - in Reply on Luke 12:10
    Hello Chris,

    My thanks for your kindness, and for your well thought-out reply. I don't have much to add... I think it's as you said - at the end of the day, it is between each person and God. I don't think we can know if another person is "really saved" while we are in this temporary body. Even if we use the only measure, God's Word, can we know the true state of a person's heart?

    Of course, that doesn't mean we shouldn't give God's Word to everyone as we have opportunity. God told us to exhort, edify, and encourage one another daily( 2 Timothy 4:2, Hebrews 3:13, Hebrews 10:25). I believe these things are all part of fighting the good fight of faith.

    God bless, my friend.


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