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    God said Adam would die "in that day" Genesis 2:17 that he partook of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, but he lived until 930 years old.

    God said that the flood of Noah's time would destroy "every living substance" (Genesis 7:4, Genesis 7:23) from the face of the earth," yet the dove sent by Noah plucked an olive leaf from an olive tree after the flood. A tree is a living substance.

    If these phrases are taken at face value, would there not be a discrepancy in the Word of God?
  • Mishael
    If you would read an entire chapter from start to end, you would have your answers!

    Adam and Eve died SPIRITUALLY, not physically. They were banished from Eden, but still alive. Read through to the genealogies.

    Same thing with Noah:

    7 And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth.

    8 Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see IF THE WATERS were abated from off the face of the ground;

    9 But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark.

    10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark;

    11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were ABATED from off the earth.

    Jesus was coming through Noah's bloodline/ genealogy.
  • Bob Hilt
    John seems you are ignorant (not knowing something) so please allow me to show you something

    2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

    Yes Adam lived 900+ years human wise and died in one day in the eyes of the Lord, since a day to the Lord is as

    1,000 years.

    There is no discrepancy with the Bible that I have found.
  • Adam
    Hi John,

    Happy to offer my opinion.

    1. Genesis 2:17. Adam did die. Death and aging didn't happen before that. So, Adam was instantly separated from God spiritually (spiritual death), and began a slow process of physical death from that point on via aging. And if God killed him instantly, you'd probably have people criticizing that too and making negative claims and assumptions about that, so he allowed Adam (and people in general) to have a long life.

    "for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." - sounds like you're interpreting this as thou shalt surely die 'that day', but it doesn't say that. It says in 'the day' that he eats it ... this will happen (death), but it didn't say how soon the death part would occur. It seems to mean spiritual death + death through aging.

    2. Genesis 7:4 - "every living substance". The Bible already explained this. Just like in writing class you often write a general thesis at the beginning then later explain more specifically what it means this is what's done here. It doesn't mean it's inaccurate. Simply keep reading. Genesis 7:21-23 it specifically says "And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:"

    22 says each with nostrils, 23 gives examples which are land animals. It says substance, but appears to mean animals.

    The other possibility is that the olive tree was dead and came back to live when the waters receded, but I don't think so, because it would have explained that when it was specific in verses 21-23.
  • Dean
    Tender Mercies?

    God has shown mercy to sinners by the gift of His Son Jesus the Christ and who was obedient to His Father's will to the point of death and that whoever believes in God's gift being that His Son paid for all the believers sins will receive God's tender mercy. See mankind is now born with sin and then he commits sins of willfulness and sins of ignorance. Without remission of sin God must judge mankind because God is Holy and Justified. He's is God....We are not. But by His mercy which is obviously tender He made a way out of the death penalty for us by offering His Son as a replacement for us and all of the worlds sins were poured out on Him when He hung on the tree. If that isn't mercy for us I don't know what is? God so loved me that He gave His only Son for me a lost sinner and now I can hold my head high knowing that His Kingdom will come and I will be remembered and have a life without the decay that holds me now. He is tender and merciful in His ways that I can't understand but if I read His Word I will know the path.

    Believe and you will be saved. That is tender mercy.

  • Chris
    Thanks Dean, for a great testimony & account of the Lord's immeasurable mercies afforded us undeserving souls. Our heads can only be held high in praise based on all that He has done for us & nothing from ourselves. It's ALL of Grace.
  • Scott
    I have been a Christian for many years but not lived as I should, I am now in my fifties and recent health issues have compelled me to study the bible. I picked the first chapter of Luke out of thin air-not even knowing the content. Looking forward to getting closer to my savior JESUS CHRIST!
  • Tony Colliluori
    TO: Scott - Good on ya brother! May the Holy Ghost grant you the wisdom and knowledge that you seek!
  • Obbie Beal
    20 and, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.

    Note: according to the above, Time arrived for both John and JESUS to enter the world, thereby ..., ...., ..., plus 77-79 SALVATION for all mankind is about to reach all mankind..
  • CAROL for verse 29
    What does it mean to constantly see letter S?
  • Mike
    what are the tender mercerys of god
  • Job
    To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
    The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
    That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
    In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
  • Jesus Christ was Born in December
    Jesus could have only been Born in December which is Confirmed in Scripture. There are Unproven Theories claiming Jesus wasn't Born than and that as Christians we shouldnt Celebrate Christmas at this time and the same with Easter but when examined in the Light of Scripture by the Empowering of The Holy Spirit they have no substance or Truth and are mostly hearsay and fiction, they come from Man s own fleshy logic, understanding and reasoning. God tells us we are not to Agree with or Support those who Teach contrary to His Revealed Truth and we will know when it is by The Empowering of The Holy Spirit as we read the Scriptures. I will share some soon that confirm Jesus was Born in December.
  • Bogere Francis from Uganda
    For with God nothing shall be impossible.
  • Malorie
    I agree Nothing is to hard for God. He is the Lord O Mighty he is wonderful and merciful.
  • Chery cooke
    Praise God The holy of holy
  • Pam Stanley
  • Linda
    Praise God , His word is true and His promises are everlasting
  • Beloved
    It's so amazing what he did for us and still fights for us. Very thankful . He deserves so much praise and worship and love. Thank God for sending blessing and precious gift to die on the cross for our sins. Words cannot explain the gratitude I feel for all he's done for me and my family. Thankful for his love. The blood still cleanses from sin and changes you. Miracles signs, wonders.
  • Carey Z
    Amen and Amen! 3
  • Patty Tozi
    Bless our holy god!!
  • Gary Olsen
    Luke 1:13 Why did the angel sent by God to Zacharias tell him to call his coming son's name John which means "God's gift"? Why did the same angel who was sent by God to Mary tell her to call her coming son's name Jesus which means "savior" (1:31)? These names were prophetic. They were a message to us from God that he was going to give us a gift of our salvation through Jesus our Lord and savior.
  • Robbie K. Taylor
    Names given by Angels identified their life purpose. The names identified who they were ordained by God. The words of the prophets of the old testament were to be full filled of the coming of the savior. Everything happened in accordance to the prophecy and could not be altered.
  • Obbie Beal
    1-80 above we learn of GOD's plan that would redeem the sinful human race from sin; This plan of GOD would require GOD to send HIS son into the world (through Mary) then allow HIS son to be sacrificed, thereby establishing the means for all sinners /mankind to have available to them SALVATION that they may be be Saved from the lake of fire.
  • Funke Ogunsola
    V.15; "For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, ..." How many people today seek to be great in the sight of man rather than seek to be great in the sight of God? Whoever will be great in the sight of God must be ready to apply Vs 15-17: Keep your self pure, be filled with the Holy Spirit, evangelize..
  • Daniel
    My spirit has rejoiced in God my savior. He has done great and wonderful things for me. Blessed is the name of God forever and ever who has given to us the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, his only son for us that we might have eternal life. Therefore let every man be reconciled to God, for he has made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth. Praise God forever.
  • Evangelist wisdom Avuetor
    God bless you...
  • BSP
    Verses 46-55~When we examine Mary's words, we see that her prayer shared the same expressions as Hannah had at 1 Samuel chapter 2. Mary was a keen student of God's Word.
  • Jane
    Thank God for Mary
    and Praise him for Jesus
  • A disciple
    "Whereby shall I know this, for I am an old man...blah blah blah" An angel appears from our of the right side of the altar of incense, and you become filled with fear, and you hear the angel begin to tell you something absolutely wonderful; and with your very next breath you can't help but show how you have to maintain this stubborn false realism, and demand proof an angel from God is telling you?

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