Leviticus Chapter 20 Discussion



 
  • GiGi - In Reply on Leviticus 20:13 - 1 year ago
    Oops- meant to say

    christ our righteousness

    he is all we need to be with god.
  • GiGi on Leviticus 20:13 - 1 year ago
    Leviticus Chapter 20 CHRIS- OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS

    We are to put to death the deeds of the sinful nature. This is the outcome of the work of Christ on the cross- that we can have victory over personal sin. It is the result of walking in the Spirit. ( Romans 6-8). To fail to mortify the sinful nature in us is to give in to Satan and follow his lead instead of the lead of the Holy Spirit. Let us honor the covenant Jesus made with His blood, knowing that we can never come before God on our own righteousness, but stand before our heavenly Father with the righteousness of Jesus imputed upon us. This does not excuse us from the responsibility to live as children of the Light. We are to put into practice the power of grace in this life to say no to ungodliness and yes to what God has determined is holy and pure and righteous and noble and of good report, whatever is true, whatever is lovely, whatever is praiseworthy, think on these things and do the works of God ( Philippians 4:8-9) This is how we love God and love one another. This is what we will be doing in eternity. We may as well learn to love all that is holy and good now so we can bless others and hopefully win some for Christ.
  • GiGi on Leviticus 20:13 - 1 year ago
    Leviticus Chapter 20 GOD MADE A COVENANT WITH MANKIND

    God made a covenant with the Israelites at Mt. Sinai which included promises and blessings, commandments and curses. The purpose of God's covenant was to distinguish these people from the people of surrounding nations. These were to be a holy people, sanctified by God, blessed by YHWH but also commanded to be obedient in order for Him to dwell among them. No other nation had been chosen by God to have His presence dwell in their midst. This is a unique act of God, consecrating the Israelites as His chosen holy nation. The covenant was God's expressed will for them, the basis for His blessings or discipline, the standard of holiness. Whether or not an act had great social significance, it had great spiritual significance. Sinning would defile the land and God's sanctuary with the people, thus causing Him to depart from them or drive them from the land promised. The stakes o this covenant were high. It is a most serious offense-a capital offense- to disregard and disdain the covenant of God. And this is true of both the Old Covenant and the new Covenant.

    The capital offense of rejecting Jesus Christ leads to eternal death. So unbelievers are outside of the New Covenant and cursed.

    Christians disdain and disrespect the New Covenant when they persist in sin. See Hebrews 10:26-31.

    Christians disdain and disrespect the New covenant when they distort the gospel.

    Christians disdain and disrespect the New Covenant when they refuse to live their life by a higher standard than that of the society they live in.

    We are to be salt and light. We are to take sin seriously, as Leviticus 20 shows us, and to desire to live godly lives. We are to yield to the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit as He works in us to change us from glory to glory to become more and more like Jesus until we are made perfect (holy) as He is perfect (holy). ( Heb. 6:1, Eph. 1:4; 1 Pet.1:16; Rev. 22:11)
  • GiGi on Leviticus 20:13 - 1 year ago
    Leviticus 20 GOD IS NOT A RESPECTER OF PERSONS

    2)The fact that God determines that all sins are capital offenses means that no sinner should feel themselves to be more righteous than another. James puts it this way.-to be found guilty of sin at one point is to be guilty of all sins. ( James 2:1-8)

    God's Law refuses to distinguish between sins and crimes. As a rule, governments do not concern themselves with moral sins, but rather with social evils that they determine to be crimes. Governments do not concern themselves with what is termed sins (those actions that are against God) but with crimes, (offenses against other human persons).

    The capital sins of Leviticus 20 are those sins that the Canaanites would not have considered to be crimes at all. God's people are especially responsible for sins that are not crimes (as those in Leviticus 20 show).

    a) the sins which are not crimes are those acts which our culture will encourage us to commit.

    b) the sins which are not crimes do not seem to have immediate natural (nor dire) consequences.

    When God made certain sins crimes for the Israelites, they were strongly motivated to obey God's Law and to avoid sin because they wanted to live and not be put to death.

    Their lifestyle was to be distinct from the people of the surrounding nations. Disobedience and defilement will lead to expulsion from the land promised (Lev.18:24-30; 20;22-26)

    God's standards of holiness are much higher than man's sense of morality even at its best. Today's Christians must wake up to the fact that living a godly life requires much more than being a law-abiding citizen. (Some laws are anti-christian and some things that are legal are still sinful). Let us live higher than the law demands for avoiding sin requires this ( Mt. 5:43-48, 1 Peter 2:4). Civil Law can define what is a crime, but God defines what is a sin, not me, not you, not any other being, human, angelic, or demonic.
  • GiGi on Leviticus 20:13 - 1 year ago
    Leviticus 20 - NO ONE CAN SAVE THEMSELVES FROM THE JUST PUNISHMENT FOR THEIR OWN SIN

    Death begins its work in us from the moment of our conception. Even while our cells are dividing and multiplying and differentiating into various types of cells to make up bones, blood, tissue, nerves, organs, etc. our sinful nature is corrupting every aspect of our being and death is acting on our physical matter. Throughout our life our cells die off and are replenished. Our soul is dead to God from the moment of conception because of the corrupted sinful nature. From the very start we are separated from God because He is so holy we cannot be in His presence and live. We need His mercy from the very start of our life and every moment after that.e

    But, just as through one man, Adam, we all sinned (for he is our federal head-the effectual representative of all persons to ever descend from him); also, through one man, Jesus Christ we made alive because of His perfect obedience. Death came by Adam, life came by Jesus. Condemnation came by Adam; justification came by Jesus. Corruption came by Adam, righteousness came by Jesus (who is federal head of the Body of Christ). ( Romans 5:12-19)

    We are not sinful because we sin, we sin because we are sinful from the start. We all need God's mercy and salvation that comes from the substitutionary death of Jesus on the cross to bring forgiveness to all who put their faith in Him. Jesus bore the eternal capital punishment (which we deserve) for the sins of all men, that even though we suffer under physical death, we will not die eternally if we are in Him.

    In His first coming, Jesus came not to bring condemnation to humankind, but to bring salvation. John 3;17-18) in His second coming, He will bring judgement upon all human beings, eternal life for those who are His by faith, and eternal punishment in the lake of fire for those who refuse to turn to Him and reject His provision for salvation for the sinfulness of each person.
  • GiGi on Leviticus 20:13 - 1 year ago
    Leviticus Chapter 20 WE ALL DESERVE TO DIE!

    There are no degrees of sinners in God's view. There are no such thing as "small" and "big" sins to God. All sin is rebellion against Him. There certainly are degrees of consequences and results of our actions, but we cannot say like the Pharisees that we are not like the publican who is certainly a worse sinner than myself. We surely underestimate the holiness of God. And we should marvel at His mercy for not ending it all with Adam and Eve along with every person after these first two humans. But God's are not our ways. Higher than the highest heavens they are. If He did not reveal Himself to us we would not know how holy He is and how sinful we are. Mankind is completely and utterly corrupted by the sin of Adam and Eve. When they sinned their innate human nature was radically changed from being innocent and free of sin to being wholly sinful. This was a constitutional change in the nature of humanity and this corrupt, sinful nature is passed on from parent to child always with the exception of our Savior, Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh without a sinful nature.



    Society finds it necessary to categorize sins according to degrees, and rightly so. Society categorizes crimes as misdemeanors and felonies. Some sins are not considered as crimes, and some crimes are not really sins. Society gauges the seriousness of sins as to the harm it causes society and has various levels of penalties for various levels of evil actions.

    God views sin so differently, looking at sin not only in terms of actions and their consequences, but also looks at the attitude, the soul from which the sin is generated. He has determined that all sin is a capital offense and deserving of death. The fact that all sins are capital offenses has a number of implications.

    1) Since all sins are capital crimes against God, ALL human beings need desperately to experience God's provision for sinners-His mercy in Jesus, His Son.
  • GiGi on Leviticus 20:13 - 1 year ago
    Leviticus Chapter 20-Penalties for Disobedience

    Verse 7-8"Consecrate yourselves, therefore, and be holy, for I am the LORD, Your God. And you shall keep my statutes and perform. I am the LOTD who sanctifies you."

    This chapter refers back to the commands of Chapters 18-19, listing all the sins that are deserving of capital punishment (death). At times, God will is the one who executes the penalty by causing the death of the offenders, but in this chapter, God is instructing the Israelites to perform the penalty upon those who commit the sins spoken of in this chapter.

    How hard it would be to put your child to death for disobedience to a parent! But God commanded them to do so and to not do it would be a sin as well.

    So, it seems that all of the sins spoken of in this Chapter require a penalty of death. These sins would be considered to be capital crimes. Pretty sobering to consider.

    I read that Capital crimes reflect a given value system. That is, acts that are called capital crimes are those which are considered most evil, and thus reflect the value system of the one (or ones) making the laws. Since capital punishment is the most serious penalty, then these crimes are viewed as those acts which are the worst evil.

    Capital crimes in Leviticus 20 reflect God's value system. If we are troubled by what God has condemned as worthy of death, then we must recognize that our value system must be "out of sync" with God's. What then are God's values which are the basis for His choice of "capital crimes" (sins deserving the death penalty).

    Well, actually, God views every sin as capital offense worthy of death. When Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit does that seem to us to be such a heinous crime that it brought about not just the death of Adam and Eve, but for all of their offspring.

    Romans 6:23 "The wages of sin is death." Do we truly believe this? Do we concur with God that each and every sin brings the penalty of death to the sinner?
  • Andrew Bolander on Leviticus 20 - 1 year ago
    If he truly repents, can a person be forgiven for violating Leviticus 20:10?
  • Sammi - In Reply on Leviticus 20 - 1 year ago
    Molech was a false god or idol of the Canaanites . Leviticus chapter twenty is a list of laws given to the Israelites . The purpose of these laws is explained towards the very end of the chapter . Verses 22-26 . The LORD our God , has abhorred the things that the people of this land were doing , they would probably have been sacrificing their children to molech , committing acts of sexual immorality and other unmentionable grossness . The whole chapter is important and God explains His reasons for these laws in verses 22-26 .
  • Tebogo Mompati Bojong on Leviticus 20 - 1 year ago
    who is Molech?

    humas sacrifice was it permissible prior to Leviticus 20?

    How does the stroy of Abraham and Isacc relate to Liviticus 20?
  • David on Leviticus 20 - 2 years ago
    Thank you, Adam. Well said.
  • Adam - In Reply on Leviticus 20:13 - 2 years ago
    Hello, unfortunately what you say is untrue. I trust that this is a genuine open minded post about what the Bible really says. I will go ahead and contrast what you say vs. what the Bible says in hope that you are seeking the truth.

    1. "some of your English translations". The KJV is considered a meticulously accurate translation and is a translation for everyone, not just for some, as implied.

    2. "there has been a push". No, there hasn't. Who told you this and do you believe it? The Bible hasn't changed, but some people do.

    3. Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

    This verse is black and white and 100% clear what it means. You can compare it to other translations and they all say the same thing. It's already translated accurately.

    4. "But, that is not what the original Hebrew text says." Yes, it is. Who told you it said something different and do you believe them? Did they have a motive for wanting to make it mean something different?

    5. "It is confusing to say the least, the Hebrew text:" No, actually, it's not confusing to others. This is a straightforward translation and the KJV English meaning is exactly the same as the Hebrew meaning. It also says the same thing earlier in Leviticus: Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. It also condemns homosexuality in other parts of the Bible. So, what is confusing about it?

    6. It does not say "layers of a woman". I'm looking at an interlinear showing the translation with strongs and it does not say your phrase.

    7. "I do not know. But it sounds to me that it means a man shouldn't lie down in any woman's bed unless it is the bed he shares with his wife."

    It already says exactly what it means. What is your motive for wanting to change it?

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  • Fraser Crest on Leviticus 20:13 - 2 years ago
    The word "homosexual" or "homosexuality" exists only in some of your English translations of the Bible and there has been a push to be very clear that Leviticus refers to the sin of homosexuality. But, that is not what the original Hebrew text says. It is confusing to say the least, the Hebrew text: --- , : , . A direct translation: As a male- you will not lie down, from the layers of a woman: an abomination, he is.

    Apparently the "layers of a woman" is supposedly a woman's bed. Layers, meaning bed linens? I do not know. But it sounds to me that it means a man shouldn't lie down in any woman's bed unless it is the bed he shares with his wife. Since the other verses are about incest, it could also mean for a man not to lie in a woman's bed who is a close relative.
  • LACEy on Leviticus 20:10 - 2 years ago
    By the way i am an adult now, but i was just asking what the adult "child " could do with a rebellious family member. I understand the verse here talks about if the man commits adultery, but in my own life, it was quite different.
  • Steve Taplin on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    Just remember...

    The word of God was written for a child to understand.

    Albeit, that some books, chapter, verses are written with a heavenly meaning...parable...prophesy, that are hidden until revealed in Gods time.

    Example:

    If I would write a chapter on any subject...many people whom read it may have different interpretations especially if it were translated in different languages.

    There are many verses in the bible that are confusing to me (I read the bible translated to the KJV)...but I must only look to the bible for the answers or to hear or see the blessing of God.
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins." Mat 1:21

    "And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS." Mat 1:25

    "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb." Luk 2:21
  • Sally on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    How old was Jesus when he was officially given the name Jesus?
  • Lindascooks - In Reply on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    In the Bible a man lost his life for spilling his seed on the ground. God doesn't always tell man why he commands certain things from however he did say "I am the LORD, and I change not. I believe that those things which he wishes to change with mankind he states so.
  • Elijah shows after Rev 614 through Rev 612 just before the 6th trumpet - In Reply on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    If the wanker is behaving like Caligula, while entertaining impure thoughts of coitus with his married neighbor----his imagination is sinful, is it not? You are correct for our society, but perhaps not some thousands of years ago.

    In Noah's time there were 900 year old giants roaming around. They lived long lives to populate the earth, until the time of Moses when the life span was cut to 120. So, I'm sure this group of procreating flood survivors would not take any tossing away of seeds lightly, and therefore might consider a wank a sin. It's really the secondary charge, the sin of lust that exposes the wanker. This is the basis for Gen 38:8-10.

    Of Biblical law: if you think of adultery, you are guilty of adultery (to include perversions).

    As far as where the seeds should go, and where they shouldn't go, please see Matthew 13:3-8 & 18-23. There is subtle symbolism, enough to say that God doesn't like errant seeds.
  • Adam - In Reply on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    I disagree. No where in the Bible does it say that 'destroying seed' is a sin. People commonly cite 1 scripture in Genesis 38:8-10 as support, but assume it means something other than what it says. God likely gave Onan a command to get Tamar pregnant and further the family line and when Onan disobeyed God (sin), He took his life. The sin was not obeying God's specific command to him, not the spilling of seed.

    If someone assumed spilling seed was a sin, then 100% of all men would be guilty of this whether intentional or not, and the same argument could be made for 100% of women too. Consider nocternal emissions which are uncontrollable- if what you claimed was true, you're claiming that a natural bodily function that God created is sin. So, you'd be accusing God of making bodies that automatically sin- that makes no sense. Why would God create something to commit sin against Himself? Also, you'd also be claim that any married couple who uses birth control or protection of any kind is a sin worthy of death. Are you guilty of this and do you deserve to die for your sin? Also, women naturally flush their eggs monthly- so is that also a form of spilling 'seed' as you interpret the scripture. God designed the body to naturally function that way, so you're claiming that either God's perfect design is actually flawed, or you're claiming that God wanted bodies to automatically sin against Him. Neither makes sense.

    Or is it possible you might have misinterpreted the scripture? That maybe Onan actually sinned because he disobeyed God for not getting Tamar pregnant? And that maybe it doesn't mean that 100% of all other people at 100% of the time are automatically sinning if they spill seed?

    I think the answer is clear, but do pray about it.

    Any form of lust is evil and a sin. I think that's a given. God bless.
  • Elijah shows after Rev 614 through Rev 612 just before the 6th trumpet - In Reply on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    It's a sin to destroy your seed, and with lust in your heart.

    "Father Guido Sarducci" said it costs 25 cents each time, so be careful cause they add up. 25, 25, 25...
  • Mishael On Leviticus 2016 - In Reply on Leviticus 20:16 - 3 years ago
    This is from a Commentary on Google. It shows the seriousness of perversion. In most cases it's a death sentence.

    Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament:

    Whoever cursed father or mother was to be punished with death ( Leviticus 19:3); "His blood would be upon him." The CURSING of parents was a capital crime (see at Leviticus 17:4, and for the plural Exodus 22:1 and Genesis 4:10), which was to return upon the doer of it, according to Genesis 9:6. The same punishment was to be inflicted upon ADULTERY ( Leviticus 20:10, cf. Leviticus 18:20), carnal intercourse with a father's wife ( Leviticus 20:11, cf. Leviticus 18:7-8) or with a daughter-in-law ( Leviticus 20:12, cf. Leviticus 18:17), SODOMY ( Leviticus 20:13, cf. Leviticus 18:22), sexual intercourse with a mother and her daughter, in which case the punishment was to be heightened by the burning of the criminals when put to death ( Leviticus 20:14, cf. Leviticus 18:17), lying (mating) with a beast ( Leviticus 20:15, Leviticus 20:16, cf. Leviticus 18:23), sexual intercourse with a half-sister ( Leviticus 20:17, cf. Leviticus 18:9 and Leviticus 18:11), and lying with a menstruous woman ( Leviticus 20:18, cf. Leviticus 18:19). The punishment of death, which was to be inflicted in all these cases upon both the criminals, and also upon the beast that had been abused ( Leviticus 20:15, Leviticus 20:16), was to be by stoning, according to Leviticus 20:2, Leviticus 20:27, and Deuteronomy 22:21.; and by the burning ( Leviticus 20:14) we are not to understand death by fire, or burning alive, but, as we may clearly see from Joshua 7:15 and Joshua 7:25, burning the corpse after death. This was also the case in Leviticus 21:9 and Genesis 38:24.

    You can Google Book plus the scripture to read other Bible Commentaries.
  • Lise Carmen Verdon on Leviticus 20:16 - 3 years ago
    I do not understand clearly what this scripture means. I would like a response please.

    Thank you
  • Rob on Leviticus 20:10 - 3 years ago
    According to the law Adultery was punishable by death .

    So was murder of another .

    One reason as well the adulterous person was put to death it freed the innocent person to marry another qualified to marry .

    But in today's world they would call it murder . So the innocent person must remain single because of an unjust world , we can see as things are falling away the criminals seem to be getting more and more rights .

    Here is a question for you that think because we are under grace the laws do not apply ; so being under grace if you kill someone that's fine you are not under the law right ?

    Adultery and murder are quite close in degrees of sin , both punishable by death , according to Gods laws .
  • Johnny Martinez - In Reply on Leviticus 20:13 - 3 years ago
    It is NOT talking about child molesters. The scripture says they are BOTH committing an abomination. Why would God charge a child with sin, if it was against his will? It is talking about two men who both know what they are doing. And it is a sin
  • Correction To The Godhead Comment on Leviticus 20:13 - 3 years ago
    The links on the Godhead comment did not work correctly. You'll have to read those out of your Bible.

    Mishael
  • Chris - In Reply on Leviticus 20:13 - 3 years ago
    Leviticus 18:22.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Leviticus 20:13 - 3 years ago
    Romans 1:26-27 (tap on this link)

    The whole Book of Romans describes our present day realities of what we see happening all around us.

    To choose to deny Gods existence shows that people are reprobate in their minds and hearts. Homosexuals where it says, "it's not meet", points to illness of their bodies.
  • Ruby F Mathis on Leviticus 20:13 - 3 years ago
    Is there a verse in the Bible that says, a man who lays with another man sickens me?
  • Natalie Hilliard - In Reply on Leviticus 20:13 - 3 years ago
    Has our country is being attacked by the demoms of Satan. Our we to just sit back and watch or stand up for jesus i stand for jesus. But how do we try and kmow the right way to address those against us.


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