Judges Chapter 11 Discussion

  • BSP on Judges 11
    Verses 37-39- even though her life may not have turned out the way she planned, she took practical steps to cope with disappointment such as taking the time to sort out her feelings, confiding in her friends, and doing what she could in Jehovah God's service.
  • David on Judges 11
    All discussions and view points offered here have merit. Some more, some less. Let's not forget, how much greater God's wisdom is than ours. If we allow the Bible, God's Word, to explain Himself- a the clear rendering can be made. Just keep in mind, we must always use the whole counsel of God not just parts we know or like.

    We know, from Scripture, God hated human sacrifices. He does not allow it.

    One last point, people may abandon us - even family; but the Lord God Almighty never will.

    Thank you Lord for this medium of learning and discussion. Lord Jesus shine His face on all here.

    God bless everyone on this forum.

    June 11, 2021
  • Suziq - in Reply on Judges 11
    Ronald L Whittemore ,i dont think she would have been allowed to serve in the temple ,only male levites were allowed to serve in the temple ,Jephthas vow was to offer it as a burnt offering ,he wouldnt go back on a vow to God and he wouldnt have been so upset if she was just going to serve in the temple , these are only my thoughts , i could be wrong but i belive what it actually says .
  • Ronald L Whittemore - in Reply on Judges 11

    Jephthah vowed a vow unto the Lord to offer as a burnt sacrifice, the first thing that came out of his house to great him. His only child, his daughter came out first. There was a tradition that if a woman who wants to give herself in service to God must be a virgin. The expression "bewail her virginity" means that she would spend two months with her close friends and relatives before joining herself to the temple.

    Verse 39 And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel,

    One meaning of burnt offering is to sacrifice at the altar. The other meaning is to give oneself to serve in the Temple, the latter is most likely what was done. She being his only child left no hope for any grandchildren because she could never marry, would die a virgin.

    The word lament in verse 40 sounds like she was sacrificed, but the Hebrew word "tanah" can also have the meaning of perhaps recount, rehearse or commemorate the idea of attributing honor.

    So, the daughters of Israel could, for four days be honoring her for giving herself for the rest of her life to serve in the temple for the honor of her father's word and the vow he made to God. Some kind of love she had for her daddy.

    God bless
  • Cheryl - in Reply on Judges 11
    Yes Judges Chapter 11 has a verse 39 thank you
  • Mishael - in Reply on Judges 11
    What book, chapter & verse?

    Judges 11 doesn't have 39 verses.
  • Cheryl on Judges 11
    Explain verse 39 thank you God bless
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Judges 11
    As I don't want quarrel my heart leads me to reply to this statement made.

    You call the Lords prayer "insulting" and "phony"?? You discredit some books of the Holy Bible yet cling to and wrest verses to fit your own "understanding" from other portions of the Holy Bible? Stating "only one person here has knowledge of what I say" and you think I'm on high?? You tell me to keep my nose in the OT and preach "everyone shall be saved"?

    How's a prophecy from Daniel for you? Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. As I would think you know these prophecies are about the end times. It does not say everyone shall be saved and receive everlasting life. Like the heresies you are seeming to preach here.

    If what I stated will not lead you to examine yourself. If a prophecy from the OT, Daniel, is not enough to make you rethink your "understandings" you believe in. All I can do is pray for you. You are in my prayers.

    Again I posted a verse from the Holy Bible that contradicts with you posts. I am only doing this to lead you in the right direction and that is Jesus Christ. Not knowing gematria and knowing all the lies and deceptions of satan in this world. Focus on the Lord and follow Him.

    I went to that site of that man you posted saying he was real smart or something. I could only watch his video for a couple minutes after seeing how rude he was cursing others out. That is not of God.

    ( 1 John 2:15-17 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

    16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

    17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

    Set your heart on producing good fruit of the Spirit for our Father. God Bless you.
  • Darren Croft - in Reply on Judges 11
    Celibacy is not Bible doctrine. It was made by Catholics, along with their insulting and phony Lords prayer, in a gigantic book they call a bible.
  • Devin - in Reply on Judges 11
    I see. What about a vow of celibacy, if one cannot keep it, what can he/she do? Is it the same trespass offering, except that the sacrifice is Jesus?
  • Carleton - in Reply on Judges 11
    True, vows are carefully made.

    Three vows that some may take and in this order is helpful. By God's grace in Christ Jesus,

    keep any of these vows that one makes.

    A believer's vow.

    A wedding vow with another free to vow believer.

    A minister/deacon vow.
  • Peter - in Reply on Judges 11
    It doesn't fulfill the vow by any means it is what God said to do when they broke a vow. He made a vow to god to kill the first thing that came through the door. A trespass offering was to be offered for failing to keep a vow.

    Example: Had he not kept his vow and had not killed his daughter, God would require a trespass offering for the sin of not keeping the vow. He should not have even made a loose vow. Vows are better not made than not kept so when making them they should be concise and genuinely kept.
  • Devin - in Reply on Judges 11
    Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just trying to understand Leviticus 5:4-6. Considering all the "fulfill your vow" verses, would Leviticus 5:4-6 mean that by giving a trespass offering, the vow is fulfilled through the offering?
  • Peter on Judges 11
    Two Theories On This Biblical Account

    1. The king James bible says the following; he would offer her as burnt sacrifice, she lamented being a virgin for two months, then he did what he vowed. He vowed to offer her to the lord as a burnt sacrifice. This is the clear meaning of the language used in the King James Bible. This is sometimes confused with she was lamenting her virginity because she would have to remain celibate but this is not what the bible says and there are two primary issues.

    2. Theory 2 says he just offered her to the lord to be celibate the rest of her life. Two problems here. 1. Levitical law allows for making a trespass offering when a person makes a vow like this. Instead of sacrificing her or dedicating her to the lord to be celibate he could have just made a tress pass offering to be forgiven of a sinful or un-kept vow. Read Leviticus 5:4-6. The second problem is if he didn't sacrifice her as the bible says and just dedicated her to the lord, Levitical law also allows a person to buy back someone they previously dedicated to the lord for 30 shekels. Leviticus 27:2-4

    Honestly after being ran off by his brother Jephthah spent a lot of time out in the world and probably was not even familiar with the Levitical law any more. Not knowing the law he probably figured he was doing the right thing by sacrificing her when in reality he was not obeying god in this act, he was committing murder. The sin was making the vow in the first place and remedy was already provided for by god via a trespass offering.
  • ISAAC on Judges 11
    Wow! Thanks So Much Am Glad To Be Here Among People of God.
  • Wellington Wonsang - in Reply on Judges 11
    The type of mourning exhibited by Jephthah, his daughter, and her friends could not be over her virginity. There were others in scripture who remained virgins and did not mourn. Paul and Daniel, for example. Verse 39 is also very clearly states "At the end of two months, she returned to her father, and he kept the vow he had made about her." HCSB. A vow cannot be burned. The verse clearly references "it" to be his daughter by the saying "about her."
  • GODWIN N EDIAGBONYA on Judges 11
    Now i believe she was a living sacrifice
  • Obbie Beal on Judges 11
    His daughter became a Living-Sacrifice.
  • Stanjett on Judges 11
    Vow or no vow, I would not kill my daughter. Send me to hell but let my daughter live. And I do only have one daughter and no sons.
  • BSP on Judges 11
    Verse 7~The men had chased Jephthah away but when they were in distress they wanted him to come back. Jephthah raised a valid point here and showed that the men had treated him unfairly.
  • Sylvia on Judges 11
    Frances Cantu,
    She spent two months grieving in the mountains. Bewail is to express deep sorrow by wailing and to Lament is a passionate expression of grief or sorrow. Everyone young woman wanted a family and every grandfather want grandchildren to keep the inheritance. Unfortunately because of her father's vow to GOD her dreams are shattered. She'll remain a virgin for the rest of her life.
  • Frances Cantu on Judges 11
    I don't understand in Judge 11:37-40 .What she meant by bewail my virginity two months in the mountain. and what did it mean when it said the daughters of Israel lament the daughters of Jephthah.
  • BSP on Judges 11
    In verse 37 Jephthah's daughter requested to go away and cry for a few months. This shows that although she was willing to fulfill her father's vow, this was a difficult thing for her to do.
  • Irene123 on Judges 11
    Martha - You are quite right. But an animal didn't rush to meet him. God stipulated only animal sacrifices. The daus. sacrifice was her virginity; she could never marry and have children, because of Jepthah's vow. It was the longed for expectation of every woman of Israel to be the one to produce the Messiah. All Israelites kept animals for food, sacrifices. So Jepthah just chose a 'perfect' one.
  • Martha S on Judges 11
    This story has long puzzled me but pondering again has helped. It appears Jepthah made his vow with the help of the Holy Spirit. KJ margin says "or I will offer it up for a burnt offering." Could it be that a favorite animal would have rushed to meet him as well? Sacrificing children was an abomination so she likely became fully dedicated to the Lord, as true ministers still do, as Jesus sent his.
  • April on Judges 11
    You know,I was thinking about it,although GOD may not like human sacrifice,even if GOD was JESUS in HUMAN form,JESUS was pure,also a virgin I kind of think that this kind of offering is the most purest,due to being untouched and their love for the LORD, JESUS was in human form and was the only begotten son,and this day was what made SALVATION possible,so as hard as it comes across,it was selfless.
  • Irene123 on Judges 11
    "Come now, let us REASON together ..... "; why anyone would even WANT to believe God allowed human sacrifice - when He came (His spirit, for God IS spirit) as the body of Jesus to SAVE us from death - is beyond me. Jesus was God in human flesh.
  • Irene123 on Judges 11
    Jud. 11:34-40; Matt. Henry commentary - "It is hardtop say what Japheth did ... but human sacrifice is abomination to God. It is th'ot she remained a virgin and apart from her fam.

    1 Kgs. 11:1-10; God left and cursed Solomon for his human sacrifice to Molech, Chemosh. Solomon started out good, but ended badly. God saved Isaac; it was a test of Abraham's faith.
  • Nancy on Judges 11
    The scripture about Japheth'vow and the following scripture about his daughter brought quite a bit of discussion in our Bible study group. The majority of them use a KJV, and it is very ambiguous. The NIV clearly stated his daughter went up into the hills with her friends to grieve that she would never have children or a family. Also, Zapheth did as he vowed. To me that means she was killed.
  • Mukisa francis on Judges 11
    You believe in your self dia and know ur self like jephthah!!

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