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  • Wendy r on Jude 1:8
    I am not sure what is meant by 'dreamers.' Is it those who are 'asleep?' Or is it those who are interpreting false dreams and saying they are prophecies? I just don't understand this. If someone could explain this verse, I would appreciate it. Thank you.
  • Chris - in Reply on Jude 1:8
    Jude, in this passage was writing in condemnation of those who perverted the Truths of God & that we Christians should recognize them & to "earnestly contend for our faith". He speaks of the history of the Israelites who were saved from Egypt but many of them sinned later in various ways (Jude 1:5); of the angels who left their first estate (Heaven), who sinned & are now held in chains awaiting judgement (v 6); of Sodom & Gomorrah who were given to licentious behaviour & homosexuality, now awaiting their doom in hell fire (v 7).

    So, in like manner (v 8), these "filthy dreamers" (those men of verse 4, "who crept (into their fellowship) unawares"), also preach similar errors, who despise authority & governments & speak evil of things they are ignorant of (v 10). So, "dreamers" are people that have imagined themselves to be persons of great knowledge or reputation & so having a 'godly' authority to bring 'God's message', which of course was not so & contrary to Scriptural Truths. Today, we might tell someone to "dream on", if they come to us with some outlandish statement or belief that something wonderful is going to happen to them. These dreamers (& "filthy" is not in the original text but an adjective to describe their similarity to the other wicked people mentioned), were bringing messages coming from their carnal minds & hearts of pride, rather than Scriptural based.
  • Diane Smith on Jude 1:9
    Yes, Jude 1;9 "The Lord Rebuke thee"... as believers we have been given authority; Galatians 1;20-22 we are seated with Christ in heavenly places at the right hand of the Father...to rule and reign with Him, He is the head we are the body Galatians 2; 5&6 Also Luke 10;19"Behold, I have given you all authority to tread on serpents and scorpions. I have given you authority over all the powers of the enemy, nothing shall by any means harm you. Also Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because Greater is He THAT IS WITHIN YOU, than he that is in the world. I John 4;4 ...So my question is When is it correct to say "The Lord rebuke thee"? Certainly Michael the archangel is more powerful (authority trumps power) than we are?? SO do we need to say the Lord rebuke thee.
  • How To Get The Devils Out Of Your Life - in Reply on Jude 1:9
    If the attack is against me, I say "In Jesus name, it is written; The Lord rebuke thee. Get thee hence!"

    It's good to use the Search Box and type in 'Authority' and hit the arrow. Every scripture on authority is listed. By reading all of them, it gives a clearer picture of what our Authority in Christ is. You can read all, Old Testament only, or New Testament only.

    Jesus gave us his NAME. We study how he used his Name to rebuke Satan and his demon operatives.

    Having good knowledge of scripture allows us to use it against the devils that know scripture too! If we speak the scripture with Jesus Name, those devils have to cease their attack.

    That where binding comes in handy. (The Lords Prayer). Whatever is bound on earth is bound in heaven.

    Bind the demons and send them into outer darkness and dry places.

    In Jesus name, Loose: angelic help, healing, deliverance, Emotional help.

    Only tithing is how we ask for help in finances. We establish trust in Gods plan to help us be blessed financially. When the plan works, we can ask for what we need and receive it. The plan is not meant to be legalized by well meaning preachers. God made a simple principal to follow:

    Minimum= adequate blessings

    Maximum= over and above blessings

    The plan operates on trust and obedience; with thanksgiving to God for His Word.

    In Matthews 26, we see reasons why we should share what we have, with others who lack everything. Then we honor Jesus's known plea for those who are in need.

  • Diane Smith - in Reply on Jude 1:9
    THANK YOU, Mishael, for your prompt reply! I love to study the scriptures and believe it is important to know the rules of engagement when dealing with the enemy. I appreciates the points you have made and have saved them for future reference.

    May He grant your hearts desire and make all your plans succeed Psalms 20;14 NLT
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Jude 1:9
    Hello Diane,

    Just to give a little, personal, answer to your question. Whenever I hear temptations, or statements not from our Father, I use that exact phase. Or "God Almighty rebukes thee satan" along with others using the name of Jesus Christ to cast the devil away from me.

    Most of the time I myself don't even speak these things out of my mouth. It's mostly in my head or spiritual. You may have to repeat it several times. And do it with authority. God purchased you, you are His now. The Lord enjoys us keeping guard. Any bad thing cast it out.

    Hope this helps some. God Bless you sister.
  • Diane Smith - in Reply on Jude 1:9
    Thank you, Richard, for your reply. So kind of you to take time out of your day to respond.

    The tongues of those who are upright and in right standing with God are as choice silver!

    God Bless you brother.
  • Bob Grove on Jude 1:14
    Jude verse 3 plainly states that the FAITH was once delivered unto the NT saints , this is the Doctrine of Christ and of the Apostles.

    Nothing more is needed .

    2 Timothy 3 . 16 Confirms this .

    My question is where is the Trinity doctrine found in the bible ?

    This is the actual teaching and importance to follow the teaching .

    Who said it in the Bible .

    Yes we know that Jesus is one with the father . As he said he came from God , the Son of God come in the flesh . and never sinned as a man . He was the first of His kind , . That's not my question.

    Thanks I will wait .
  • Bob Grove on Jude 1
    In verse 2 at the end of the verse it says " the faith was once delivered unto the saints ".

    When did this take place ?

    Jesus taught the 12 apostles and before and after his crucifixion .

    Judas was replaced before Pentecost . The qualifications for the replacement was that He and not she had to witness Jesus from the time of Jesus Baptism by John the Baptist to Seeing Jesus alive from the dead .

    These men received the One and only completed faith . The Holy Spirit help in the understanding as Jesus left to be at the Fathers right hand . The Holy Spirit continues to this day to help us understand the written complete faith found in the New Testament . There are no revisions or add ons to the Apostles doctrine found in the books of the Bible .

    The doctrine should be very precise not a matter of vague interpretation , of which leads us to many denominations etc and room for heresy to breed .

    2 Timothy 3 v 16 , 17 It's all provable in the Bible . Since the apostles passed on evil men have made the faith many things . But the one faith remains in the scriptures , and with the Holy Spirits teaching you can find it and be assured of it ! God bless you as you seek the truth that sets us free from deception .
  • Will - in Reply on Jude 1
    Saints is another name for Gods Children Israel

    14He also exalteth the horn of his people, the praise of all his saints; even of the children of Israel, a people near unto him. Praise ye the LORD.

    5 Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.

    6 And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: for God is judge himself. Selah.

    7 Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel, and I will testify against thee: I am God, even thy God.

    the only people that made a covenant with the Lord is Israel

    For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

    4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

    5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
  • Bob Grove - in Reply on Jude 1
    God made a new covenant with Israel, it replaces the old .

    Hebrews 8 verses 6 - 10

    Hebrews 10 16

    Hebrews 12.24

    And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant and to the blood of sprinkling , that speaketh better things than that of Abel .
  • Bob Grove - in Reply on Jude 1
    The commonwealth of Israel is Old Testament and New Testament saints .

    Ephesians 2.12

    Saints are found in the New and Old Testament .
  • Jacqueline Lars on Jude 1:1
    Was Simon the brother of Jesus Christ that helped him carry the cross to his own crucifixion
  • Bob Grove on Jude 1:14
    Verse 4

    Verse 10

    Verse 18

    Verse 19

    Verse 25

    Read the whole book this is so prevalent today , Adultery in the church ! And guess who is responsible. These false teachers.
  • Hughland Ivey Jr on Jude 1:4
    What does ordained to this condemnation mean
  • G.A on Jude 1
    God tells us He never called an Angel His Son we are all Sons and Daughters equal in Christ Jesus and Adopted by God yes like The Godhead our roles are different but God has no favorites. Jude tells us the Angels sinned the same as those in Sodom and Gomorrah Verses 7-8. Deuteronomy tells us who Gods Sons were who had relations with these Woman. yes we need to read carefully Gods Truth in Scripture but not with Man or Woman's understanding but with Gods Wisdom.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Jude 1
    Job 38 tells us the Sons of God shouted for joy at the creation of the earth. Adam did not come until 6 days AFTER the creation of the earth. So Adam could not have shouted for Joy before he was in existence. So the Sons of God of Job 38 must be angels., unless Adam shouted for joy before he existed.

    Believers do not become Sons of God till they are born of the Spirit in the New Testament. Adam was called a Son of God since he had no earthly mother and Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God. Angels are not THE SON OF GOD, they are Sons of God.

    Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

    5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

    6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

    7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

    After all who was the FATHER of the Angels? think about it.
  • Keith Christian - in Reply on Jude 1:14
    One who is a believer is born of the Spirit.
  • Isaac on Jude 1
    So where the book of Enoch can be found?
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Jude 1
    Isaac - You want the book of Enoch edited by Charles as the other one is occultism in nature. That is the one most Christians show interest in. It can be found online and some booksellers have it.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Jude 1
    The text of the Book of Genesis says Enoch lived 365 years before he was taken by God.

    He was considered to be the author of the Book of Enoch and also called Enoch the scribe of judgment.

    The New Testament has three references to Enoch from the lineage of Seth (Luke 3:37, Hebrews 11:5, Jude 1:14-15).

    The Book of Enoch is considered to be a historical book and was not canonized into the Bible.
  • Chris - in Reply on Jude 1
    Isaac, the book of Enoch is an Apocryphal book that is not found in the Canon of Scripture. It is one of the books that were considered of doubtful value/quality when the Scriptures were put together for the KJV. If you want to see those books, then just go down to the end of this Site's page & click on KJV Apocrypha.
  • Fred Scanlan on Jude 1
    That is why it is not His one and only son, It is then in fact His only begotten Son, in all creation!
  • Vicki on Jude 1:14
    Are we in the end times?
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Jude 1:14
    Read Matthew 24 and look at all the earthquakes lately. Look into the Noahide laws that is on the books in America. They are not currently being enforced yet. Ask where the noahide laws are in the Bible. The laws given to Noah. They exist only in the minds of rabbis. look into the punishment for breaking the noahide laws and then read Revelation 20:4
    then ask that question again. People have been saying it is the end times for hundreds of years. however every day is a day closer.
  • Bill on Jude 1
    Jude writes so much in so few words. He brings a message of both hope and rebuke. As I read this letter I was impressed by the knowledge of the story of the Exodus his audience must have had. I am impressed that they were most certainly Jewish Christians. Today S I read this letter and apply it to my life I am impressed to listen to the warning about false teachers and their lust for earthly things and pleasures. Today's churches are full of these false teachers. But I am more inspired by the clear teaching of Jude that we are saved by the Father Preserved by Jesus Christ and have hope for the future. The judgement is God's not mine and God alone can judge others. Hold on to the Truth!
  • Trusting God not Man on Jude 1
    Betty, Angles didn't Marry earthly Woman Jude confirms why they are waiting punishment too. God has never called an Angel His Son and their DNA is not compatible with Humans. We need to not only ask for Gods Wisdom and Empowering by The Holy Spirit but believe we have received it too. Than Jesus our only Spiritual Teacher will lead us into all Truth with the Confirmation of Scripture or Creation.
  • Tread Carefully - in Reply on Jude 1
    And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

    Genesis 6:1-4

    The sons of GOD ARE INDEED Angels, this is referenced in Jude as well. So, 1st Enoch may be missing from our translations. GOD YHWH is the ONLY TRUE AND HOLY JUDGE.
  • Fred scanlan - in Reply on Jude 1
    Sons of God are as saints, made a little lower than the angels. The kingdom of heaven is not unlike the creation. Similar in that there are angels messengers of God for the benefit of man, and men who believe in the power of Christ are saints! Abiding in Christ is a gift according to his mercy He saved us. The water is washing of regeneration, Blood is the sanctification, the spirit is life. This is His creation, this is His will. Before the fall of man ,the creation was perfect. The creation of man and his faith in the gospel will be Satan's downfall. In the end the extension of his creation of heaven and earth will be found in the power of Christ. Everlasting life. All glory to God!
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Jude 1
    sons of God in the new testament after being born again they are to become.
    Adam is also called a son of God
    and the angels were the only sons of God in the old testament.
    Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God.

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