Jude Chapter 1 Discussion



 
  • Tunney on Jude 1 - 3 months ago
    Jude:

    2 Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.

    3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

    GOD bless all on this forum. Happy New Year! The LORD to shine HIS face on all and to gloriously bless all who love and wait for HIS coming.

    January 1, 2024.
  • H4nn4h.7* on Jude 1 - 9 months ago
    The "some" in Jude 1:22 could be referring to two different groups of people.

    1. It could have been in reference to "some" believers who were being influenced by the false teachers in Jude 1:4 who "...crept in unawares...", and compassion was needed to ground them in the faith so they would not depart from the faith.

    2. The "Some" could also have been those who were close to being saved, and great compassion was needed to bring them to a place of receiving Christ as Saviour.

    This is for those who were wondering what it meant.

    God Bless you!
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Starbux:

    Jude 1:20 But ye (you are the body of Christ), BELOVED, building up yourselves (in the truth of God's words) on your most HOLY FAITH (you were resurrected with CHRIST, your the body of Christ, it's HIS HOLY FAITH IN YOU, his body, praying in the HOLY GHOST (your mouth is the mouth of GOD, it's his words that come out of your mouth.

    Christ said OF MYSELF, I can do nothing, the words you hear are my Father's words, the works you see are my Father's works, Christ is the body of his Father, we are the body of Christ, the words that come out of our mouth are the words of Christ, the works we do are not our works, but the works of Christ.

    Man's teaching have destroyed the truth of the gospel.

    That they may be ONE as we are ONE

    Ephesians 4:4 ..... ONE BODY (that contains the LIFE of God) ......ONE SPIRIT (the LIFE of the body) ...

    Ephesians 4:6 .....ONE GOD .....Father of ALL ......

    You have to have your carnal mind destroyed by God's words and have the mind of Christ replace your carnal mind.

    When you pray in the HOLY GHOST, you pray in the NAME OF JESUS (your his wife, you were MADE ONE by his resurrection, he has given you HIS NAME, he is the LIFE IN YOU, it's his word, nis prrayer

    Psalms 12:4 Who (those not understanding) have said, with our tongue shall we prevail: our lips are our own: who is lord over us.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Starbux on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    In verse 20, does anyone pray in the Holy Ghost?
  • Chris - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi Bonnie. There are probably several methods that people have used to help in memorization; and as the old adage goes, 'Repetition is the mother of learning' is one that is most often used.

    However, when it comes to Scripture memorization, we need to remember that this is the Holy Word of God that we have in our hands, as 2 Timothy 3:16,17 tells us, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

    So I believe that both memorizing & understanding God's Word must have God's Holy Spirit to assist & guide us. Without Him, all that is written in the Bible are simply words holding limited value, with any memorization attempt only little more than what a child at school would memorize by rote. You probably already know many verses, with Psalm 23, John 3:16, and Romans 3:23 among the top ones known by many Christians. One good way to add to this, is by reading & meditating on the verses around them & as you read them over & over again, the Spirit will cement these others verses, not just in your mind, but more importantly deep in your heart. And when they are stored in the heart, they will more easily come to remembrance - very useful when you need to hear it when in trouble.

    My other advice is, not to attempt to memorize large portions of Scripture, because that will be very difficult & if you forget something, you may get discouraged. Go one verse at a time, slowly building up on other verses, particularly those that specially speak to you, meaningful, which you can also use to help others. And if possible, try to memorize the Bible references as well, alongwith the verse, so you can easily go back to it or show the verse to someone else. I'm sure others here will give you some good advice. May the Lord renew your love & memory power for storing up His Word in your heart.
  • Bonnie on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    I read my bible, and have trouble remembering it, do you have any suggestions on how I may retain it better, I am 58 and memory not the best? Thank you & God Bless!
  • GiGi - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Hello Verleen,

    The word "epistle" means letter. The word Gospel means "Good News"
  • Verleen innis on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Why are the Romas throug Jude referred to as Epristles? next why are the frist 4 books of the New Testment referred to as the Gosple.
  • Chris - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    P.S. Anonymous is Chris, to whom you responded.
  • Anonymous - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Thank you Dr. Adams. I think we're referring to two things here: the Sabbath that you wish to observe, if as a nurse, you worked a 'non-standard' week, and secondly, the Sabbath that was specified by God for His people, Israel, to observe.

    a. in the example you gave, it would be quite appropriate for you to rest on your seventh day, even if that day should fall on any other day other than Saturday. Personally, I would just call it my rest day & not my Sabbath as to some folk that might infer that I'm recognizing & observing the Jewish Sabbath & changing it to 'my Sabbath day'; but maybe that's another discussion.

    b. in relation to God's Command to Israel to "keep the Sabbath (the seventh day) holy" & as to "what day to start or stop"(your comment), I would suggest the following. Israel, from the time of the giving of the Law, knew exactly when their working week (or rather, days of toil & wandering in the desert) started and stopped. You may recall the Scripture in Exodus 16:25-30, where God provided manna for six days & the people had to collect extra on the sixth day to tide them over for the seventh day (Sabbath). This continued throughout their wanderings so they had a calendar of sorts to mark out their days of toil & their day of rest; the arrival/cessation of manna never failed. This 'calendar' never changed since then & even when Jesus went through the corn fields on the Sabbath ( Matthew 12:1), or went to read in the synagogue on the Sabbath Day ( Luke 4:16), He never upbraided the Jews for observing a day that was not the very same one specified by God in Exodus.

    And for today also, I believe that the Sabbath Day falls on the Saturday (as per the Gregorian calendar that we use), as Jews also recognize it & observe it. Chabad dot org, confirms that Chanukah begins this year on Sunday, December 18 and ends on Sunday, December 25 (with December 24 being their Sabbath - Kislev 30). I hope this helps a little.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi DrTAdams.

    I don't believe the days of the week was named back then. When they were named they named the 7th day Saturday.

    And we know God rested on the 7th day from all his work.

    However the Sabbath day was given to Israel.

    S Spencer

    God bless.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Dear Dr. T. Adams.

    You are correct. As a N.T. saint we are not bound to the Mosaic Law, but the spirit of the law is what we should be mindful of and order our life accordingly.
  • DrTAAdams741 - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    The Bible never mentions what day to start or stop, it just says for 6 days, you shall labor, and on the 7th day, I rest. So, if I am a nurse and my work day starts on Wednesday, and I work 6 days, my 6th day would actually be Monday, so couldn't I have my sabbath on Tuesday, since it does not specify a day of the week in remembrance of God the Father? Would I not still be honoring God if I labor for 6 days and rest on the 7th?
  • Chris - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Exodus 20:8-11 should cover it, that the seventh day was a day of rest for Israel.
  • DrTAAdams741 - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Do you have a scripture reference to support this?
  • DrTAAdams741 - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Where does it say that in the Bible?
  • Jon Wilford - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Saturday was/is the original Sabbath day of the week
  • Anonymous - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    The seventh day (what we today call, Saturday) has always been the Jewish Sabbath. It was a God-ordained day of rest from their labors of the week.
  • Lina on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Is Saturday or Sunday the seventh day, the sabbath day?
  • Eric - In Reply on Jude 1:9 - 1 year ago
    Many believe the 2 witnesses will be Moses and Elijah, which represent both the law (Moses) and the the prophets (Elijah). This perception is based on the fact that both were seen with Christ in the gospels by Peter on the Mount of Transfiguration where Peter asks Christ if he should build 3 tabernacles, 1 for Moses, 1 for Elijah and 1 for Christ.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Jude 1:9 - 1 year ago
    I meant to say their ascension CAN'T be replicated although it could somehow be fabricated....
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Jude 1:9 - 1 year ago
    As with anything else; Hebrews 9:27 makes a plausible argument; but it isn't worth quibbling about. The nature of the unique ministry is quite remarkable; as there will clearly and at long last be an undeniable "signs and wonders" ministry that will dwarf anything seen before. This will; of course involve a prophetic contest between the truth and a lie; with fire coming down; a mark or seal; and a Resurrection being mimicked by the Beast immediately after these witnesses have completed their misistry (although their ascension can be replicated).

    I tend to emphasize the same concept as Christ preaching to the spirits of disobedience in hades. This is; along with likely the 144,000 primarily if not exclusively a DECLARATORY message of judgment rather than the Gospel as it stands today; since by the sixth seal ALL of mankind will know about God and Christ as well as the beginning of judgment. I would say this probably can be defined as the completion of the "Gospel of the Kingdom" ( Mark 1:14-15). The Gospel was said not to be given to all the cities of Israel before Messiah returns ( Matthew 24:14). There are certain verses about preaching to kings and having the Holy Spirit give the words which seem to be dual prophecies for the Apostles as well as the end time saints; as much of the generation that is described that will not pass until all these things come to pass seems to be describing later on in verse 34 of the same chapter.

    It does seem that there is a lag time between the Rapture and the appearance of the 2 witnesses. Since certain judgments on the earth are held back before the 144,000 and likely the 2 witnesses coinciding with that time frame; it would seem that time is needed (they say 6 months or so) for the Temple to be constructed and for most of the seal judgments to transpire first.

    That in my mind would also all ow the so called " Psalm 83" war to take out Israel's surrounding nations and their threats to come first before Ezekiel 38.
  • PROPHECY - In Reply on Jude 1:9 - 1 year ago
    Brother Luke:

    Enoch and Elijah are not the only two people in history that did not die but were translated into the presence of God. Anyone from the time of pentecost until the present that have been born again of the word of God, through the works of the cross, have not seen death. The two witnesses to this truth is Mosses and the prophets.

    John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me (truth and life) SHALL NEVER DIE .....

    Titus 1:2 In hope of ETERNAL LIFE, which God , that cannot lie, promised (witnessed by Mosses and the prophets) before the world began;
  • Luke Cage on Jude 1:9 - 1 year ago
    Richard H, IMO, I believe that Elijah and Enoch will be the two witnesses in Jerusalem. After all, they would be the only two men in history that did not die (aside from the ones who were taken to Heaven by Jesus upon his return) but they will die at the hands of the Beast's Israeli servants. Moses died and amazingly enough, he may have even wrote that before he did as he is the purported author of the Pentateuch.
  • Lord knows on Jude 1:9 - 1 year ago
    Yes if the Lord was not on my side I should have fallen many times to destruction. I can look back over many years and see this is the case . In Jude He reassures us that no challenge is too great . Verse 24
  • Richard H Priday on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Our church had a Sunday school on this topic a few years back when I was in Pittsburgh. In that study; there was some discussion on the part of Enoch (the book) that is quoted here. This is a good example of how PART of an original text that is inspired is quoted; but the entire book as it exists today has inconsistencies and not in the accepted Canon today. The section about contending over the body of Moses in fact may be part of a different book; in any event the rest of the source text is cut off for some reason. It seems clear that God did bury Moses; although some say since no one knows where; and that he was one of two speaking to Christ during the Transfiguration meant that he didn't die. Elijah was said to have gone up in a whirlwind and it seems clear he and one other person (some say Moses; I would tend to say Enoch based on Heb. 9:27) will be the last day prophets. The reason for Satan's contention isn't made clear here; others can give a hypothesis. Anyway; the main point in that passage is that unlike today's world that likes to make a Hollywood image of Satan with a pitchfork; or today's musicians that like to offer sympathy to the Devil or claim we can sell our souls to him; our attitude as believers should be of deference to Christ; as illustrated by the Archangel Michael and his attitude when rebuking Satan. If we aren't Spirit filled; we run the risk like the Jews who were mauled by demons and ran off naked invoking Christ's name. Those who are in the Spirit will realize the battle in the heavenlies is to be fought on our knees in prayer.

    The clear warning in the book; is that we all are to be "contending for the faith." It appears with the common salvation that the entire congregation (unnamed as well) is addressed to look out for false teachers creeping in. It is unlike; say Timothy's epistles and most other ones written earlier specifically to elders. The sin of Sodom certainly is relevant today as a main theme as well.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    Amen and thank you Richard for that well placed discourse.

    God bless you and all you do brother.
  • Streetpreacher - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
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  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    I suppose what you are saying is that all the earlier Pauline Epistles and writings started with these type of salutations. Since God's Word is inerrant; technically Jude was stating His original plan for the Epistle before the Lord inspired him to write on these other matters. This would; therefore make us assume that some grounding in these basic doctrines were already understood to some extent since deeper matters were discussed.

    It should be noted here that this book primarily doesn't ask us to test ourselves to see if we are in the faith; but it asks us to examine the doctrines of those who creep in unaware spreading heresy. Only those knowing the truth would care enough to discern error. The pattern here is much like in ancient Israel. The spiritual forces of darkness were always trying to seduce those who were following the God of Israel from the beginning; despite God's clear warnings against the pagan practices and deliverance from pagan nations experienced by Moses and his followers. These wicked nations; when transgressions came to the full would be judged.

    Our God is a jealous God; and will not tolerate idolotry; which in some capacity was overlooked in the O.T. times. The warnings against the spirits of disobedience who affected the corrupt seed of Nephilim and their descendants; and the affect of demons on people such as in Sodom to commit perverse actions is always tied in (i.e. spiritual with physical adultery). Satan will use the Word of God to bolster all false practices by infiltrating the church. He also uses control through authority and those who men will follow and women who are not firm in the truth. We are warned about tares that will spread false doctrines to entice people to fall away; but those who do were never truly with God in the first place. Eventually all true children of God hear His voice and also they will not follow another but run away. We are to guard the flock with diligence as leaders in the church.
  • Dav47 - In Reply on Jude 1 - 1 year ago
    This written to people who are to be preachers by Jude; he was in Palestine to the Hebrew Christians both to those in Palestine and those dispersed.1 chapter but covers a whole range, goes all the way back to Enoch to end of this dispensation of time.

    appr. date 41-46 AD, CHRIST crucified in 28 ad would put this writing around 15 yrs after CHRIST so he would certainly likely to have 1st hand witness of his half brother CHRIST and the authority to rebuke the evils he speak of. If Jude was of age 30 for instance he would have spent at least 15 yrs with CHRIST

    Half brother of CHRIST and brother of James the lesser the author of James whom both CHRIST say are brethren(brothers) Mat 13:55; Mark 6:3, Act 15:13, Gal 2:9, Gal 1:19

    Whole of Jude warns us of evil spirits and fallen Angels that Enoch spoke out against .

    Jude 1:4-Fallen angels Gen 6:1,2,3 and Satan denied CHRIST and have ever sense and sentenced to judgement for denying CHRIST. .

    evil spirits that possesses those who allow it; even heads of Christian churches to deceive the people. Those who deny CHRIST, the SON of GOD, Emanuel-GOD with us denying HE is of the trinity, GOD head who died and rose 3 days later for 40 days appeared to many and is historical accounts of HIS marks and resurrection. scripture lawyers and not followers of JESUS CHRIST the savoir. Gen 6:4 Jude 1:6 they left their first estate- their own principality and place of dwelling which was in darkness; are now in a bottomless pit in chains of darkness-evil spirits, where they cannot sire anymore giants are released for 5 months to pick up where they left off in days of Noe, when the 2 witnesses they kill in the arena and they rise 3 days later are instantly blotted out of existence at the sight and hand of GOD at CHRIST 2nd appearance where all knees will bow.


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